Evolution of "The Wizard and I" (Wicked)

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  • Stephen Schwartz discusses how he created the song, "The Wizard and I" and the evolution from the original song "Making Good" from an Evening with Stephen Schwartz
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  • @ludwigvanbeethoven8793
    @ludwigvanbeethoven8793 6 ปีที่แล้ว +205

    "im not gonna play the whole thing"
    gets carried away and plays the whole thing

    • @ronyorobio7096
      @ronyorobio7096 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      He skept the part when Elphy imagines that the Wizard could de-green her.

  • @guinnberger2681
    @guinnberger2681 10 ปีที่แล้ว +182

    In the original "Making Good" form, the lyrics sound resentful and determined to force people to apologize for misjudging Elphaba. In "The Wizard and I," however, she's hopeful that the "wonderful" wizard will magically see through her uncanny looks and prickly personality, and give her the chance to prove her goodness so that other people will see who she really is, and love her. That makes me cry every time, because everyone knows it won't happen that way. Fabulous song.

  • @syworld82
    @syworld82 9 ปีที่แล้ว +78

    This is such an insight into how they really tried to keep the integrity of the Elphabas. Even Shoshana Bean who is probably the Rule Breaker/over riffer Elphaba... has really kept the integrity of this song by not over belt riffing until the end of the song in the same way that Idina does not Belt until the end of the song...This really opened my eyes to appreciating Shoshana and Idinas version even further...

  • @entertainer1987
    @entertainer1987 15 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    "Making Good" was originally written for Stephanie J. Block. She did the VERY early workshop stages of the show, but the producers wanted to attract the fans from different shows and since Idina was so well-known to theatre fans and was nominated for a Tony she was chosen to originate the role.

  • @Jakthun
    @Jakthun 12 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    It's so beautiful because you can truly notice he feels what he sings... Even if his vocals aren't that good, it's still very special

  • @AimlessSky
    @AimlessSky 10 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    So interesting how the show involve before it hits the stage.
    Julia Murney got to sing "Defying Gravity" first,
    Stephanie J. Block got to be in the initial readings and have the song "Making Good",
    Idina Menzel got a new song written for her that intensify Elphie for her voice "Wizard and I", and became the Original in the end.
    Basically, all three who auditioned for the role got something special in return! =O

    • @JosephJohnson-gu5fw
      @JosephJohnson-gu5fw 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Murney is one of my favorite vocalists. Her vibrato is insane and adds something witchy to this role that some of the other girls don't.

    • @iAmMadeOfSoup
      @iAmMadeOfSoup 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      And all got to play the part

  • @lekoman
    @lekoman 10 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    I am such a fan of his, and Wicked is very high on my list of favorite shows... but man did he get it right not becoming a singer. Songwriting is definitely his strength.

    • @KenBernardez
      @KenBernardez 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      lekoman This was such a shallow thing to say.

    • @iAmMadeOfSoup
      @iAmMadeOfSoup 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      lol he's not terrible but he's a great pianist too

  • @pakamausi
    @pakamausi 14 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Gotta love Stephen Scwartz :D I love how he kept saying "I won't play the entire thing..." every time he demonstrated the earlier versions - but in the end he did sing "The Wizard and I" all the way through XD

  • @katygzlg
    @katygzlg 10 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    Stephen schtwartz is amazing , and is an excelent person

  • @rebeccah6736
    @rebeccah6736 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    I've literally never thought of Wizard and I as a wait-for-it song, but I just went back and listened to the soundtrack after watching this and... that's exactly what it is. Like there's so many points of build up in the song that always resolves down so that the finale can finally punch you in the face. I've grown up listening to Wicked, and I feel like I've listened to it for the first time again.

  • @OfficialLexieI
    @OfficialLexieI 8 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I love how he kept parts of the melody of the 2nd version of Making Good.

  • @supersingerevan
    @supersingerevan 14 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    i want him to release a solo album. there is so much emotion in his voice when he sings, i get chills just listening to him.

    • @aaronbalzer2647
      @aaronbalzer2647 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      EvanBellTheatre He has at least one album out, perhaps two, I don't remember

    • @KeshiaFowler
      @KeshiaFowler 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I what a album of all the songs he cut from shows

  • @skippyruff3365
    @skippyruff3365 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I appreciate how he wasn’t focusing on his singing abilities but more on the heart of the song. Very impactful

  • @mithramusic5909
    @mithramusic5909 15 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    He wrote all the music too...which only makes him more amazing.

  • @spencerbeckart
    @spencerbeckart 11 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    You know, I almost don't think it matters that he doesn't have a "beautiful" voice. He holds so much emotion when he sings that you almost forget he isn't a naturally gifted singer.

    • @ZombalayaQ
      @ZombalayaQ 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      This is actually one of my favorite versions of The Wizard and I. I come back to it allll the time

  • @themarquis336
    @themarquis336 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    No one is talking about the guts and confidence it takes to publicly show pieces of your work that were not very good and basically failures and use them to explain how a creative process works.
    Maybe it’s just me, but I think it’s incredibly brave.

  • @Pyramid132420
    @Pyramid132420 11 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    When people see me they will scream for half of Oz's favorite team!
    Stephen Schwartz and I!!!
    ;)

  • @stemajor7
    @stemajor7 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Love the harmony in “he’ll say to me I see who you truly are...” Goosebumps. In fact, there’s lots more of those goosebumps moments in Wicked.

  • @JHParee
    @JHParee 7 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I hope none of you take it this way, but I could watch him play piano all day.

  • @ZombalayaQ
    @ZombalayaQ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The cry when he sings "Help me meet the Wizard" 😍😍

  • @foxtatertot
    @foxtatertot 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I read about the original "Making Good" from "The Grimmerie", so it's super cool hearing the original version.

  • @Unplugged516
    @Unplugged516 15 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    In '98, when Schwartz and Julia Murney did a benefit concert at the Westport Country Playhouse, he had already written both the first "Making Good" AND "Defying Gravity"
    the difference?
    originally, "Defying Gravity" was somewhat legit and NOT the big belting anthem.
    It was a few steps higher, much much slower tempo, and was considered a ballad. Chord progressions also had a minor foundation (opposed to standard pop major) to them. so the whole structure sounded EXTREMELY different..

  • @DewkyShewt
    @DewkyShewt 9 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    your such a good singer dude, amazing.

  • @anjabukvic9908
    @anjabukvic9908 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Now I really wish to hear full versions of the previous two songs!💚🎹🎼🎵🎶

  • @wickedly4
    @wickedly4 10 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    this was AWESOME.

  • @04elliottg
    @04elliottg 15 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Could this get any better?
    This is perfection!!!

  • @fuzzlylizzy
    @fuzzlylizzy 14 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I LOVE watching him play piano! His hand motions are so... interesting! Love Love Love Stephen Schwartz.

  • @marilianunesc
    @marilianunesc 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is so amazing!!!!!! Loved it! He's such a full of soul and smartness genius!

  • @gotGodgrace
    @gotGodgrace 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank for sharing..I had no idea!!

  • @pfgum2
    @pfgum2 12 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I pray that someday I can be remotely close to him in the GENIUS category.

  • @tbraun84
    @tbraun84 14 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    ...genius. I loved learning about the process behind what ended up being a huge hit.

  • @koichissimo
    @koichissimo 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just amazing.

  • @ronyorobio7096
    @ronyorobio7096 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Majestic. I wish I could watch ALL the clips associated to Wicked.

  • @eddiemaggs7172
    @eddiemaggs7172 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is such an insight!!

  • @alanpease8474
    @alanpease8474 ปีที่แล้ว

    That was beyond brilliant and gave me some insight into the workings of this musical genius' mind.

  • @gotGodgrace
    @gotGodgrace 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lucky you!! What a awesome artist !!

  • @MvyMkr
    @MvyMkr 16 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The more I listen to the 1st "Making Good" I love it! Have it on my ipod! I know TWAI is better, but I love the musicality of it!
    And I hadn't heard the second one so thank you SO MUCH for that!!!
    And I found it incredibly interesting as a MASSIVE Idina fan to see how her personal style was utilised to create that bit of musical goldust!!! Thanks again!

  • @grimadventuresofm
    @grimadventuresofm 16 ปีที่แล้ว

    wow, this was really interesting to watch=) thanks for posting!

  • @caesaria
    @caesaria 13 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    outrageously interesting and entertaining

  • @xretroman
    @xretroman 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I actually liked hearing a guy sing that

  • @coolbean08
    @coolbean08 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    i would have loved to go to this evening!

  • @MissMiffed
    @MissMiffed 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    I LOVE him so much!

  • @abidyson8076
    @abidyson8076 11 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    He's in tune, and he's a composer not a singer.

  • @divawarrior6402
    @divawarrior6402 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow! What a treat!

  • @jesusantoniomjr
    @jesusantoniomjr 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    He's truly AMAZING!!!!

  • @gracesolidum3029
    @gracesolidum3029 10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wow he is amazing!!!

  • @waynesworld91
    @waynesworld91 11 ปีที่แล้ว +76

    He's trying to sing a part he wrote for Idina while playing the piano...also he's a composer, not a singer.

    • @katiekc5573
      @katiekc5573 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Fun fact: He actually wrote Elphaba for Stephanie J Block, she's another amazing broadway queen. She was Elphaba for the workshops but then they wanted a bigger name for Elphaba so they got Idina. Stephanie then went on the originate Liza Minnelli in The Boy From Oz.

    • @veraelphie0306
      @veraelphie0306 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​​@@katiekc5573 he did not. The Wizard and I and No Good Deed were written for Idina's voice.
      Making Good was a scrapped song, but the only one to be truly written with Stephanie's voice in mind.
      Long story short: SJB FANS, *stop. Rewriting. The story.* The most Stephanie did for Wicked was a few reads in the workshop phase right before Idina auditioned, one show in San Francisco, and her full run as Elphaba. Idina built the role from the ground up. You can thank her for Elphaba, not Stephanie. If Stephanie would have been the original Elphaba, Defying Gravity itself would have been far less grand, and end on a "dooooown" belt.

  • @NebTtoille
    @NebTtoille 13 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love the first making good. and this IS very good

  • @ryanburke4633
    @ryanburke4633 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love this music

  • @TheCrazyCoasterKid
    @TheCrazyCoasterKid 12 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Irony + foreshadowing = WIN!

  • @04elliottg
    @04elliottg 16 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    08:48 - 09:40 Just purely speachless.
    What an amazing guy. Genius.

  • @adameyelashlover
    @adameyelashlover 16 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wow he really gets into it, huh? I really enjoyed seeing that process!

  • @summergirltx
    @summergirltx 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for posting these!! So cool to hear him talk about and perform his own work.

  • @amyclarke41
    @amyclarke41 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    song writing gold☺

  • @FamousIsabelle
    @FamousIsabelle 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    clever and brilliant :)

  • @carlosalejandroalvarenga4913
    @carlosalejandroalvarenga4913 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    _YAAAY, THEY'RE KICKING!_

    • @iAmMadeOfSoup
      @iAmMadeOfSoup 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I WAS GONNA TEXT THAT TO YOU

  • @supersingerevan
    @supersingerevan 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    woah! thanks!

  • @mithramusic5909
    @mithramusic5909 15 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    The high note is an E, which is pretty easy for most guys, particularly higher baritones and tenors, to hit in their octave. It's really, really hard to belt it as a female, though.

    • @iAmMadeOfSoup
      @iAmMadeOfSoup 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      MithraMusic not for me at all. I'm a soprano female who has a 4 octave range so that's probably why

    • @francishaegen1348
      @francishaegen1348 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      You sure you belt in chest voice and not just sing it in head voice? (:

  • @mleedancer
    @mleedancer 13 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i love this making good song. both versions. but the wizard and i is still my favorite.! :)

  • @rhysvale9147
    @rhysvale9147 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    why am I seeing this in my recommended 11 years later- not complaining though

  • @Krtss3344
    @Krtss3344 11 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    He's really not bad :)

  • @DuelMedia
    @DuelMedia 12 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    They should so have one show where he actually plays the Wizard!! XD

    • @AirTravel415
      @AirTravel415 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He should have a cameo in the movie

  • @GirlsTripTV
    @GirlsTripTV 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Big smile!

  • @WickedFan6
    @WickedFan6 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    hes such a genius

  • @loudip6493
    @loudip6493 16 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Even Steven Schwartz riffs his own music :-P

  • @EllaABo
    @EllaABo 10 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Liar liar pants on fire, you did the entire song.

    • @guinnberger2681
      @guinnberger2681 10 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      He did the beginning and the end, but he left out a lot of the middle...

    • @tia8245
      @tia8245 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Why does it matter because without this guy Wicked would not even exist

  • @xxbroadwayfreakxx
    @xxbroadwayfreakxx 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    yay! they're kicking! lol love SS

  • @fontenayperi
    @fontenayperi 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    i loved Making Good

  • @BallerinaAnnieV
    @BallerinaAnnieV 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Genius!

  • @KeshiaFowler
    @KeshiaFowler 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is a reallly good song

  • @everybodysalone
    @everybodysalone 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Greatness

  • @joyceabraham7386
    @joyceabraham7386 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yes, the composer is great...as long as you don't get too close to him. He bites..hard!

  • @buffymovies
    @buffymovies 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    what happened was sjb was the voice type they wanted so they used her for the first readings and workshops, but they made clear that she wouldn't get the role because she had never been the lead in a broadway show before. so they ended up casting idina. but if i'm not mistaken they didn't have idina in mind until she actually auditioned

  • @DanielleMcOrmond
    @DanielleMcOrmond 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes.

  • @Unplugged516
    @Unplugged516 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    Negative.
    It also featured Scott Coulter singing a few cut songs from POCHANTAS and HUNCHBACK.
    very very interesting concert....

  • @IJVin
    @IJVin 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    @pakamausi It's because the first time you think he's going to play the whole thing, but he tells you he won't. Then the second time, you think he's going to play the whole song this time. But he tells you he won't. And /then/ at the end of this long video, he does play the whole song.
    It's an analogy.

  • @latif87
    @latif87 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Maaannnn what a genius

  • @HelenaBoots
    @HelenaBoots 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    god could this guy get any more talented!???? xh

  • @nataliemiller8394
    @nataliemiller8394 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    does anyone know where/if i can get the first Making Good sheet music?

  • @iteachlit
    @iteachlit 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    Buffy has it mostly right. According to Steph (interviews), it was later in the process of mounting the show, when they saw how expensive it was going to be, that they decided to go with a "name" who had opened a Broadway show before.
    And "Making Good" was actually one of only three songs (+"One Short Day" and ALAYM) Stephen Schwartz had written before he began working with Steph.
    Incidentally, the original "Defying Gravity" (during the workshops) was a few steps HIGHER than it is now. ;)

  • @jenalicerose
    @jenalicerose 16 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I loved Making Good!
    But TWAI is great too

  • @MemeGamerPS5
    @MemeGamerPS5 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Stephen is a genius

  • @alexisraelyan9640
    @alexisraelyan9640 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Does anyone know why he doesn’t sing this part “One day he’ll say to me Elphaba , a girl who is so superior ... Is it allright by you , if I degreenify you ?”

    • @lucywalsh7158
      @lucywalsh7158 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Alex Israelyan he skipped part of the song

  • @peterdaniel66
    @peterdaniel66 14 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    its amazing.. you can really hear Pippin in this song..

  • @Jayjee762
    @Jayjee762 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wonder if this will be included in the movie

  • @supahstah85
    @supahstah85 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    5:02-5:05 and I was like YAY THEY'RE KICKING! XD Awesome!

  • @EponineThropp
    @EponineThropp 11 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    "They kicked!"

  • @MamaMaryEllensBlog
    @MamaMaryEllensBlog 16 ปีที่แล้ว

    wow.. i love the version 2!!!i like his version of wizard and I too it sounds like Micheal McClean singing his own music.. an amazing musician and gives the singing a good try but it works though they cant sing hahaha :P Me loves Stephen I'm just say'n LOL

  • @xKaraAnnJx
    @xKaraAnnJx 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    Look at his hands goo!

  • @seuss101
    @seuss101 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    a kick line

  • @dramaqueenxilovepotc
    @dramaqueenxilovepotc 15 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Did he preform "Wizard and I" in a different key?

  • @patricia_armstrong
    @patricia_armstrong 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    IVe read something that was recorded straight from the makers outh saying SJB did a reading but they thought Idina was right for the part.

  • @iheartbroadwaygleek
    @iheartbroadwaygleek 11 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    his facial expressions

  • @JackxJewell
    @JackxJewell 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    What did he mean by "kick?"

  • @Jiwpgakis
    @Jiwpgakis 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    actually that wizard and i prototype was very good:P

  • @iteachlit
    @iteachlit 15 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "A reading"? She worked with Schwartz for over two years on the show, through many of its earliest manifestations. I'm not taking anything away from Idina at all...but it's not like SJB sang through the songs once or twice. Most of the Elphaba songs (except the three listed) were written for her voice, with her range and vocal qualities in mind.
    Idina had the recognizability they felt was necessary to open a show of this magnitude. That doesn't mean Stephanie was not right for the part.

  • @patricia_armstrong
    @patricia_armstrong 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    entertainer1987 they wanted Idina way before stpehanie but she was doing another musical at the time

  • @dramaqueenxilovepotc
    @dramaqueenxilovepotc 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ah. Okay. Thanks.

  • @MvyMkr
    @MvyMkr 16 ปีที่แล้ว

    I got it off limewire...Check it out.
    If not I will try and get it on this computer to send it to you, but this is my laptop which doesn't have any music on it.
    But I will try if I have some time :-)

  • @krayemer2623
    @krayemer2623 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What key is he singing in?

    • @Kyle_Sherrington
      @Kyle_Sherrington 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +Bwayinanchorage Key of G

    • @iAmMadeOfSoup
      @iAmMadeOfSoup 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Kyle Sherrington haha that's my lowest range