SO IF YOU ARE ABLE TO HAVE A PCM, ANTITHEFT SYSTEM AND THE ABC MODULE FROM ONE WORKING ESCAPE AND TRANSFER TO ANOTHER NOT WORKING ONE, DO YOU THINK PROGRAMMING STILL BE NECESSARY?
If I am understanding this somewhat disjointed repair journey correctly, you overlooked or didn't read service info on the jumper tubes that extend the rear brake pipes up to the top of the HCU. That black block stays attached to the HCU and the pipe connections up top remain connected when you remove the HCU from the vehicle. There are fittings below the block that you remove, accessible from the LF wheel well. That way you don't need to fight the two rear pre-bent pipes as they pass through and over the HCU bracket.
I've always wondered with a code reader bleed, where does the air go? Obviously it doesn't go out the bleeder screws on each wheel. Is it pushed back up through the master cylinder?
I had a shop try to change my rear brakes on a 2011 Ford Escape now the pedal goes to the floor. I believe it’s the abs model. How would this happen just changing the rear brake shoes?
I used an older Autel with this but I believe many scanners that’s allow for more than basic scanning can do it since it’s just capturing the previous info and applying it to the used module.
@@cj1613 Yeah, I ended up returning the Autel and just using FORScan. However, it still took a long time to fix because I needed to pressure-bleed the brakes. But I did eventually fix it 100% myself.
Tengo una ford escape 2008 4 cilindros...si le cambio el modulo abs del mismo que trae la camioneta es necesario programarlo? Que pasa si la uso asi sin programarlo...o si lo programo días después de cambiárselo?
Is better to bypass the abs module from the 4 wheels to the two master cylinders hose using two 3 way tees to make the proper junction, after that bleed out your system and plug in the 4 wheels hose ports 3/8-24 and th two 916-18 master cylinders` s port on the abs pump assemble and forget the brake problems in fords.
Hi Jose I have a 2008 Ford Escape that I was thinking of doing this to. You’ve done it before and it worked perfectly fine, with no check engine lights?
Why did you replace this? My brake pedal feels spongy and goes to the floor. I’ve replaced master cylinder and booster, brake lines dont bulge, is it the abs module?
I have replace abs unit CO2, S/W 60303. for my car santa fe 2007, 2.7., 4WD ESP. And bleed air from wheels. The problem. Is clunk sound Inside abs unit when press break at low speed. No signal abs light, the abs working good as break, the problem only the clunk sound. So please could you advice me how solve this problem. Thank you very much for your help.
I would assume so since the hydraulic portion is mechanically driven (as long as it’s the same). I’ve never tried this myself on a ford but would really like to know how this goes, please keep me updated. I’ve done it on a Mercedes or an Audi (can’t remember which exactly) and it did work.
@@TexThaiAuto We used our Launch scanner to code the used ABS HCU. I'm going to pull the module off and have a look at it. Might be worth swapping if you don't have an ABS hard fault.
So bleeding out means your getting the air that would be trapped in the abs before fluid gets in there. The air has to go somewhere. If your doing that abs bleed procedure where is the air going if all lines are connected?
I believe if it’s the same type/hardware it’ll work. You can use car-part.com to help determine the module that’ll work and I believe there are forums that discuss which models can interchange.
My 09 Mariner has the traction control light, abs light, and Brake light lit up with check brake system message. The brakes work fine. Anti lock system only stops your brakes from locking up so you don't slide by turning brakes off and on till it stops. Your brakes will still work. But I'm not sure if it will pass inspections with those lights on it not... I been driving mine like this fir 8 months. Happened after heavy rain and driving through water. I think the black electronic box is shorted on mine not the pump.
No. I purchased a used model and was able to reprogram it with my Autel scanner. It may depend on the year (I am not sure), but for this specific one I was able to get a used a module reprogrammed.
I wish you would have taken more time and organized your presentation. Your video is great and exactly what I needed. But, it is a little disjointed and rushed. I don't understand the scanner uploads, downloads, etc. Also, where did you purchase the ABS pump new or used? It is obvious you know what you are doing and don't waste time which I appreciate. But, some more detail, especially on the scanner for us old non tech guys, would be appreciated. I have a 2008 with everything but that damn harness disconnected, I still can't figure how to disconnect it, and the 10mm bolt you referred to that I didn't see. I was going to by pass and eliminate the ABS. It isn't as easy as I thought. The fittings are metric and I was going to use a Willwood proportioning valve that has standard SAE line fittings. All of them have to be adapted or replaced. A real pain. Probably easier to replace the pump. Thanks for the video. It has been out a couple of weeks, I am only the 6th viewer. I have been looking for this info for a couple of months. I will subscribe and like.
Process was too choppy. Try to develop an outline next time, it will probably help you be more complete and fluid in your process. Practice will help you get better. People out here can utilize the information you are developing, so keep enhancing your presentation.
@@TexThaiAuto Yeah that's true. Well I'm gonna attempt to bleed the brakes on the Mazda equivalent of the escape. Fingers crossed the module isn't a problem.
SO IF YOU ARE ABLE TO HAVE A PCM, ANTITHEFT SYSTEM AND THE ABC MODULE FROM ONE WORKING ESCAPE AND TRANSFER TO ANOTHER NOT WORKING ONE, DO YOU THINK PROGRAMMING STILL BE NECESSARY?
If I am understanding this somewhat disjointed repair journey correctly, you overlooked or didn't read service info on the jumper tubes that extend the rear brake pipes up to the top of the HCU. That black block stays attached to the HCU and the pipe connections up top remain connected when you remove the HCU from the vehicle. There are fittings below the block that you remove, accessible from the LF wheel well. That way you don't need to fight the two rear pre-bent pipes as they pass through and over the HCU bracket.
Any link of where I can get a Module for my 2009 Escape please?
Very useful video!
Could you explain how to choose the right ABS MODUL/PUMP if I want to go for used one?
Run the part number on your original
@@TexThaiAuto can you actually reprogram a used and module? I heard you could not. Also, which scanner were you using there?
Código del módulo original + número de vin del auto ( número de chasis) .
@@damian2594 en mi auto no leyeron ni gun dato antes de quitar, que numero necrsito mas el vin????
Is that a used part? Wondering if you can program a used part
I've always wondered with a code reader bleed, where does the air go? Obviously it doesn't go out the bleeder screws on each wheel. Is it pushed back up through the master cylinder?
PCM and ABS modules are paired.
I had a shop try to change my rear brakes on a 2011 Ford Escape now the pedal goes to the floor. I believe it’s the abs model. How would this happen just changing the rear brake shoes?
Brake booster
Thanks for this! Could you use FORScan for this, or do I need that scanner? If so, which model of Autel Maxidas is it?
I used an older Autel with this but I believe many scanners that’s allow for more than basic scanning can do it since it’s just capturing the previous info and applying it to the used module.
@@TexThaiAuto Well, I bought an Autel MaxiCOM MK808S, but it seems like it can't do it.
@@Mark64forscan is they way to go
@@cj1613 Yeah, I ended up returning the Autel and just using FORScan. However, it still took a long time to fix because I needed to pressure-bleed the brakes. But I did eventually fix it 100% myself.
How did u get the 3 13s off that hold the bracket? It seems impossible man! Stuck at a standstill right now
Tengo una ford escape 2008 4 cilindros...si le cambio el modulo abs del mismo que trae la camioneta es necesario programarlo? Que pasa si la uso asi sin programarlo...o si lo programo días después de cambiárselo?
You need to program. A used one will not work properly until calibrated to your vehicle.
How much does cost for abs control replacement including parts and labor?used part or new part?
And this for the same Ford Escape xlt 2009 that I have
Depending on area.
Is better to bypass the abs module from the 4 wheels to the two master cylinders hose using two 3 way tees to make the proper junction, after that bleed out your system and plug in the 4 wheels hose ports 3/8-24 and th two 916-18 master cylinders` s port on the abs pump assemble and forget the brake problems in fords.
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Hi Jose
I have a 2008 Ford Escape that I was thinking of doing this to. You’ve done it before and it worked perfectly fine, with no check engine lights?
What did you use to the plug the lines? Is it really necessary to plug them?
I did not plug the lines. Just removed, replaced and bled system.
Why did you replace this? My brake pedal feels spongy and goes to the floor. I’ve replaced master cylinder and booster, brake lines dont bulge, is it the abs module?
In my case it was, I did literally everything you mentioned and the problem did not resolve until I replaced the ABS module.
Wow thanks you tube for cutting off this mans important information. Why is this happening. YOU Need to fix this!!!
TexThaiAuto what happens if i replace it and dont program it
Is it really expensive to get a new one ??
What's the part number on this please 🙏
I have replace abs unit CO2, S/W 60303. for my car santa fe 2007, 2.7., 4WD ESP. And bleed air from wheels. The problem. Is clunk sound Inside abs unit when press break at low speed. No signal abs light, the abs working good as break, the problem only the clunk sound. So please could you advice me how solve this problem.
Thank you very much for your help.
Maybe check the brake booster to see if the shaft broke?
Is it possible to change just the the hydraulic portion of the HCU and just swap the electronics over to the used pump, and skip the programming?
I would assume so since the hydraulic portion is mechanically driven (as long as it’s the same). I’ve never tried this myself on a ford but would really like to know how this goes, please keep me updated. I’ve done it on a Mercedes or an Audi (can’t remember which exactly) and it did work.
@@TexThaiAuto We used our Launch scanner to code the used ABS HCU. I'm going to pull the module off and have a look at it. Might be worth swapping if you don't have an ABS hard fault.
Which brake lines on the abs module is for the rear and for the front?
Do you have to capture the info and all that? Because I have seen other videos where they didn’t do that
I believe so. I have seen issues in the past if the info is not captured.
So bleeding out means your getting the air that would be trapped in the abs before fluid gets in there. The air has to go somewhere. If your doing that abs bleed procedure where is the air going if all lines are connected?
There is a vent that only opens when doing it electronically. You’ll be able to feel it when holding the brake pedal.
@@TexThaiAuto is this bleading can help when you install new caliper ?
Would this work for a 2007?
DID YOU NEED TO REPROGRAM THE VIN NUMBER ON THE ABS MODULE
If you replace it with a used one, just remove the module from the pump motor and use your old module to avoid reprogramming.
@@ilovecinnamoroll2013 That's great except the brake module is usually the failed part.
Im having issues with my module, does anyone know if the new ona have to match the serial number?
Get the same part number.
@@TexThaiAuto it's been hard to find the exact same part all of them look the same but the serial number is different
I believe if it’s the same type/hardware it’ll work. You can use car-part.com to help determine the module that’ll work and I believe there are forums that discuss which models can interchange.
Can you pin the specific scanner you used for this?
Autel
How long does this procedure take in total?
It only took me about a couple of hours.
@@TexThaiAutoyet the shop I called said 6.5 hours for the job. That’s nuts
Does the one you showed is brand new or used …..
Used
@@TexThaiAuto where can I get the link
What was the brakes doing for you to know the abs module was the problem
Vehicle had a spongey brake pedal and every other portion of the braking system was working properly.
My 09 Mariner has the traction control light, abs light, and Brake light lit up with check brake system message. The brakes work fine. Anti lock system only stops your brakes from locking up so you don't slide by turning brakes off and on till it stops. Your brakes will still work. But I'm not sure if it will pass inspections with those lights on it not... I been driving mine like this fir 8 months. Happened after heavy rain and driving through water. I think the black electronic box is shorted on mine not the pump.
What kind of scanner is that ?
Older Autel maxidas. There are better more updated ones now. I tend to only use this scanner for vehicles under 2011.
I have read that because these modules are car specific, a used module will not work because it cannot be reprogramed. Is this correct?
Thanks
No. I purchased a used model and was able to reprogram it with my Autel scanner. It may depend on the year (I am not sure), but for this specific one I was able to get a used a module reprogrammed.
@@TexThaiAuto Thanks, was there anything car specif about the used unit? How can I find out if what you did would work on a 2007 escape hybrid? Wray
What type of scanner did you use?
Autel Maxidas
So any autel maxidas would work or do you have the model number on your autel or even a link to it.
could you link the exact abs module needed? I want to make sure I get the right one for mine
I don’t have a link to it sorry, but if you use your vin then you should be able to find it.
@@TexThaiAuto can you please tell me were I can buy the module abs please I try already alot of places but don't gotted
There on ebay and about $500
what were the issues u had and how were you sure this was the part to change?
Just wish I could see how you got it out of that tight area. Got to replace mine, hope it goes smoothly.
Also wondering what you plugged the lines with.
@@LotsAYoyoMama have u bought the new part yet. Sometimes the new part have rubber/plastic plugs covering entry ports in the new part 🤞🤞
Good suggestion but nope. Pulled off a used car at the Pick-n-Pull junk yard.
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I wish you would have taken more time and organized your presentation. Your video is great and exactly what I needed. But, it is a little disjointed and rushed. I don't understand the scanner uploads, downloads, etc. Also, where did you purchase the ABS pump new or used? It is obvious you know what you are doing and don't waste time which I appreciate. But, some more detail, especially on the scanner for us old non tech guys, would be appreciated. I have a 2008 with everything but that damn harness disconnected, I still can't figure how to disconnect it, and the 10mm bolt you referred to that I didn't see. I was going to by pass and eliminate the ABS. It isn't as easy as I thought. The fittings are metric and I was going to use a Willwood proportioning valve that has standard SAE line fittings. All of them have to be adapted or replaced. A real pain. Probably easier to replace the pump.
Thanks for the video. It has been out a couple of weeks, I am only the 6th viewer. I have been looking for this info for a couple of months. I will subscribe and like.
Too long to read just commenting to remove from feed
Thanks for the info, but you swing that camera around like a tilt a whirl at the fair.
My apologizes. As you can see the date it was one of my first and was still getting the hang of it all.
@@TexThaiAuto You were learning. I shouldn't expect Stanley Kubrick.
Process was too choppy. Try to develop an outline next time, it will probably help you be more complete and fluid in your process. Practice will help you get better. People out here can utilize the information you are developing, so keep enhancing your presentation.
dont bother to tell us how hard it is to like unplug the electrical connection
Wasn’t hard
So annoying that you need a scanner to even think of doing this yourself.
I agree but at least they allow it to be possible. Some vehicles need more advance tools to even “clone” a used one to a vehicle.
@@TexThaiAuto Yeah that's true. Well I'm gonna attempt to bleed the brakes on the Mazda equivalent of the escape. Fingers crossed the module isn't a problem.