DANGEROUS - Did This Pilot Break The Rules? (Spantax Flight 995) - DISASTER BREAKDOWN

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  • @DisasterBreakdown
    @DisasterBreakdown  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +73

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    • @Austin_H_1900
      @Austin_H_1900 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Don’t destroy yourself! Anyone telling you transitioning is a good thing is a liar and out to hurt you and make money off of you.

    • @shatteredshards8549
      @shatteredshards8549 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      @@Austin_H_1900 Shame on you for leaving such a hateful message. If you don't have anything nice to say, then kindly move along and keep it to yourself.

    • @rabidcheesemonkey1092
      @rabidcheesemonkey1092 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Great to hear you are recovering well from your surgery! I am recovering from a left leg amputation, myself.

    • @alfredwilson4224
      @alfredwilson4224 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      what a beautiful stunning bird she was ❤❤❤❤❤❤ dc-10 just god damned sexy deeks at her curves and lines ❤❤❤❤❤❤

    • @alfredwilson4224
      @alfredwilson4224 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      YOU cannot ever be replaced Chloe

  • @lostvictims9769
    @lostvictims9769 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1313

    In remembrance:
    Flight Attendant María Montserrat Alcalá Jara, 22
    Flight Attendant María del Pilar Picatostes Silva, 21
    Flight Attendant María Luisa Burgos Caricio, 33
    Adrienne Abel-Bey, 25
    Anna Maria Ayan, 13
    Mari Flor Peral Ayan, 36
    Natasha Marie Ayan, 7
    Maria Amparo Berlanga, 24
    Elvia C. Bohórquez
    Joao P. Cristino, 26
    Lisa Marie Cristino, 14
    Jayne DeLuca, 34
    Normand Paul Deshaies
    Manuel Bernaldo de Quirós Dompablo, 33
    Gloria K. Emhart, 62
    Alberto Evangelista
    Mary H. Felder
    Lilian Garret
    Vicente Gazpio González
    Melissa Holland, 22
    Lee Jong-ji
    Igor Katsnelson, 44
    Irena Katsnelson, 41
    Estela T. Rodríguez-Garcia Labrada, 70
    Carlos María Lazcano Conrado
    Barbara Jean Leonard
    Evelyn Luebkert, 63
    Mesías Elena Lujan, 33
    Mary Jane Mansfield, 47
    Theodore Jerome Mansfield, 52
    María del Pilar Morales de Terry
    Paul Michael Nader
    Jayne Ellen Parry, 25
    Natividad Consuelo Salazar, 15
    Margaret Jane Sabados
    Angela Salas Pérez
    Francisca Salazar Martínez, 47
    George Sarhan, 55
    Ada Scheinman, 60
    Sofia Sotomayor
    M. Starbel
    Celia F. Steinfeld, 56
    Mary Ann Tellone, 25
    Winifred Redgate Turenne, 69
    Conrad Turenne, 71
    José Antonio Valdes Cueto
    Bernard Weill, 63
    Shelly Weiss, 26
    Sarah M. Sisia, 51
    James LaRocca, 65
    (Managed to complete this list right after the video was released, so I managed to make a few corrections to it, however, I am unsure if Mr. LaRocca was among the dead, as I have read somewhere that his hospital condition was listed as “poor”, as well as Ms. Sisia. These two, I have been able to find any further connections two, so I have included them on this list.
    Thanks for the shout out! It means a lot, really. ☺️

    • @DisasterBreakdown
      @DisasterBreakdown  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +137

      you are very welcome!

    • @WadersIsBack
      @WadersIsBack 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      How did you get this information?

    • @judywein3282
      @judywein3282 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

      As always thank you for all your work in rememberance of victims. ❤

    • @supershadowman6478
      @supershadowman6478 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      Bless your heart for doing this

    • @Nefville
      @Nefville 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      🙏🙏

  • @JennaGetsCreative
    @JennaGetsCreative 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +635

    A suggestion to follow the "leave your stuff behind" warning: keep your wallet/documents physically ON you or in a very small clutch/shoulder/lanyard bag that you keep on you or in the seat pocket in front of you. This small item will not get in the way of others and it will be ready to go with you, already separate from your luggage. When I flew last month I had my cards, ticket, and a little cash in a card-sized zip pouch on a lanyard around my neck and my phone was in my pocket (when I wasn't using it.) If I had to get off that plane in seconds, I was already wearing my important things.

    • @giggiddy
      @giggiddy 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +51

      People are becoming very aware of the narcissistic behavior of fellow passengers. Especially during an emergency evacuation where these people are trying to collect their property jeopardizing the rest of the passengers. To that end, I would caution anyone against doing that as they may find that they survived the accident but fared much worse after the other passengers got their hands on them. I, for one, will not hesitate to clear the exit route of anyone purposely impeding said exit.

    • @giggiddy
      @giggiddy 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      Was the one doing the "we have a problem" narrative a passenger? Was it just a coincidence that he happened to have a recorder and decided to narrate the soon to be tragic take- off? Did he survive?

    • @ZombieSazza
      @ZombieSazza 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +36

      100%, for me I have to take a lot of medications due to health issues and disabilities (collecting them like Pokemon), so I ALWAYS have my meds bag (it’s a Harry Potter Hedwig makeup bag, but CRAMMED with pills) on me, I keep it in the little drawstring backpack I have (it’s a small bag that sits on your back, the type you’d use to go to a swimming pool) which I wear at all times so it’s always on my person, the only other items I’d bother with is my wallet which has all my IDs and bank card, and my phone, both these sit in my jacket pockets. Everything else is out of the way but the most important items are on my person, ain’t no way I’d be caught dead holding folk up trying to literally survive by taking my time getting personal belongings.
      Like if the item you need is very important that you NEED it then plan accordingly beforehand, make sure it is on your person so you can get out your seat and move quickly when the air hostess tells you to evacuate! Most of us will never need to evacuate, but it doesn’t hurt to plan accordingly and make sure you aren’t hindering someone else’s survival!

    • @MakerInMotion
      @MakerInMotion 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +47

      Fanny packs may not look cool, but they are perfect for this.

    • @bunglejoy3645
      @bunglejoy3645 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      A small tablet could co in a bigger bum bag I've a white one I've never flown dont want to but a phone a purse credit cards a small tablet could get in bum bag this eouldnt hold znuonecup in emergency csn you carry battery's on a plane out of currosity

  • @snailie
    @snailie 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +308

    I remeber Spantax not having the best reputation here in Germany when I was a kid in the late 80s/early 90s. One year (must've been in 1992 or 1994), my parents and me once again spent our summer vacation in the Canary Islands, and our return flight was with Spanair. Nobody had really heard of the airline, so some people were joking "Spanair is a subsidiary of Spantax - only every other plane makes it home!" I got quite some odd looks when I ( aged 9 or 11, I don't exactly remember which year it was) remarked "Well lucky us, the first one just took off for Hamburg..."

    • @Canleaf08
      @Canleaf08 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +42

      Funny to note the nick name of Spantax: "Finkenwerder Airlines". In 1967, they wanted to land a Convair C990 in Hamburg-Fuhlsbuttel, but landed at the HFB aircraft manufacture in Finkenwerder (present day Airbus). A giant mishap and a major PR disaster. The plane landed safely, but could not take off again. So the entire plane's interior, seatings and carpet had to be taken out to take off again.To add insult to injury: The CEO of Spantax was in the cockpit at the controls.

    • @skayt35
      @skayt35 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

      Spantax had multiple crashes with loss of life. One good thing about Spantax is that it no longer exists.

    • @Flaming-Sword-FS
      @Flaming-Sword-FS 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Your Lucky your airline Spanair did not forget to put on flaps before taking off

    • @MarkusLoffelsend
      @MarkusLoffelsend 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      I flew with SPANTAX several times in the 70s and early 80s... my father gave them the name of 'They-never-come-back-airline'.

    • @alfredwilson4224
      @alfredwilson4224 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      my friend served for Spanair and she flew her friends coffins home on her air bus after their accident and they did forget their flaps

  • @JmaK17
    @JmaK17 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +117

    I swear the overhead bins should have a locking mechanism activated for take off and landing. Preventing them from being opened from engine start until the seatbelt sign comes off on climb/cruise, then locking them again after the crew finishes securing the cabin for landing.

    • @WaddupItsYaBoi
      @WaddupItsYaBoi 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      If they're able to dedicate a separate location to the baby flotation devices (and other emergency equipment stored there) then that would be a great idea.
      Though I imagine the wiring and mechanisms required could be prohibitively heavy to allow for this realistically (based on budgets that is).

    • @patriciatreslove4449
      @patriciatreslove4449 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I agree, they should be locked, people can be very selfish

    • @jacklee5876
      @jacklee5876 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      People wouldn't understand that the overhead bins were locked, especially while in panic. They'd just spend even more time in a futile attempt at unlocking them.

  • @runbyjunglered
    @runbyjunglered 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +163

    I've (silently) watched you for years Chloe, partly because of your beautiful accent (I'm a born Geordie, living in Scandinavia!) but your videos are second to none. Your production quality goes from strength to strength and I greatly admire your attention to detail, respect for those involved in the incidents, as well as your concern for the mental wellbeing of your viewers. You're a class act and massively appreciated for your amazing content :)

    • @DisasterBreakdown
      @DisasterBreakdown  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      Thank you so much for watching

    • @tomellingham8627
      @tomellingham8627 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Rest in peace the ladies doing their job at the back of the aircraft, and everyone else.

    • @tomellingham8627
      @tomellingham8627 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Why did the vibration get worse after the nose wheels lifted?

    • @peterscheer445
      @peterscheer445 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      @@tomellingham8627 I am only guessing but with pieces that broke off; this tire was very out of balance and was dampened somewhat by the shock absorbers pushing the tire against the ground before liftoff . After lifting the nose the tire now was free to spin more erratically... a tragic situation..

    • @southendbos
      @southendbos 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I agree. Your narration is top-shelf as well as the video production values are very high. Your storyboard is always well thought out.

  • @pepeeldelaspipas124
    @pepeeldelaspipas124 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +81

    As a Malagueña i was honestly shocked that you are covering this accident. My grandfather was one of the medics on scene. And tbf i was actually quite surprised when i heard the so recognisable chime of the cercanías/renfe. Much lovee

  • @5amH45lam
    @5amH45lam 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +149

    DB production values just get better and better. The "footage" visuals are amazing! The diagrammatic stuff too - really awesome! Outstanding work, Chloe. 👍

  • @Glegh
    @Glegh 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +147

    That intro! Ive said it before, I'll say it again, each documentary is better than the last

    • @DisasterBreakdown
      @DisasterBreakdown  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      Thank you so much!

    • @alfredwilson4224
      @alfredwilson4224 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      that outro also! as a purser who served for over a decade us crew really appreciate this reiteration ❤❤ passport into pocket ❤

  • @shaelindholm2655
    @shaelindholm2655 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +441

    Lmfao the Blahaj cut got me xD
    My partner and I went to Ikea a couple weeks ago to get her one 🦈

    • @cosmicHalArizona
      @cosmicHalArizona 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ????

    • @shaelindholm2655
      @shaelindholm2655 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +55

      @@cosmicHalArizona it’s a trans culture joke, the Blahaj (a shark plushie you can get at IKEA) is something of a joking trans right of passage. Narrator cuts to one at 25:30

    • @tOGGLEwAFFLES
      @tOGGLEwAFFLES 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      It is only thanks to this comment that I didn't do a spit take, I was drinking right before the Blahaj bit and only barely stopped in time.

    • @shaelindholm2655
      @shaelindholm2655 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@tOGGLEwAFFLEShahaha glad I gave you warning o7

    • @Halinspark
      @Halinspark 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +43

      ​@@shaelindholm2655The funniest part to me about Blåhaj is that IKEA seems to have just unquestioningly leant into it. "They like the shark, make more shark stuff."

  • @EdinMike
    @EdinMike 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +186

    I’ll never understand people who value their luggage over their lives 😒

    • @WobblesandBean
      @WobblesandBean 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Humans are very, very silly creatures and we tend to value our things over each other's lives. It's very sad.

    • @chrissywales6575
      @chrissywales6575 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

      I think that people just aren't thinking straight in an emergency.

    • @almathetiredone9167
      @almathetiredone9167 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      @@chrissywales6575yeah that’s what I was wondering. I’ve heard that some people go into a sort of shock and aren’t thinking, they just don’t realize how bad of a situation they’re in. They go into their own form of ‘autopilot’. It is DEFINITELY not always the case, and no matter the reason it doesn’t make it okay.
      Edit. One thing I thought about that happens a lot of time is people have very important medications that are hard to replace that they have to take every day or they are at very big risk of death or other harm. So I can see why those people would be very panicked to get their carry on luggage. Again obviously this isn’t all the time but I think trying to understand why these things happen helps to plan for it better rather than throwing everyone in the “well people are just stupid” lot.

    • @johannageisel5390
      @johannageisel5390 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      I think it's similar to people's reaction to climate change: They think "It's not that bad." and "It's not affecting me right now." and "I have other problems [like my passport]..." and when they realize they have completely miscalculated the risks and consequences of their actions, it's already too late and many lives have been lost.

    • @Canleaf08
      @Canleaf08 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      @@johannageisel5390 Covid the same thing.

  • @aggeroxf
    @aggeroxf 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +158

    A real shame when passengers value luggage above their own lives and others..

    • @meadahagain
      @meadahagain 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      To even have the seconds to spare to consider grabbing anything other than some oxygen is disgusting to me, knowing others weren’t that lucky.

    • @iamthepinkylifter
      @iamthepinkylifter 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      seriously. if I knew I was responsible for someone else's death because my first thought upon evacuating burning wreckage was "gotta grab my stuff," I'd never show my face in public again.

  • @AngelaRichter65
    @AngelaRichter65 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +70

    You sound in good spirits and I am very happy to hear that. I had not heard of this disaster before so it was very interesting. My husband hates that, when we travel, I put my personal documents on my body, plus wallet. Anything in my luggage can be replaced.

    • @DisasterBreakdown
      @DisasterBreakdown  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      Very smart!

    • @johannageisel5390
      @johannageisel5390 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      I might make an air travel journey later this year (haven't flown for nearly 12 years) and I will certainly put my most important stuff into a pocket on my body.

  • @joannemason5581
    @joannemason5581 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

    I'd like to see overhead lockers being able to be locked remotely by cabin crew and only unlocked when safe.
    Glad your surgery went well. I had planned to get it myself years ago, but couldn't really afford it. Enjoy your life xx

  • @shapedandshaded
    @shapedandshaded 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    i just finished binge watching all of your videos, from most recent to oldest, then came back to watch this. it's insane how the quality has improved over the last 5 years, especially considering how good your early work already was. from the footage and the scripts to the way you speak and analyze, absolutely stellar work. keep it going!

    • @cbesthelper404
      @cbesthelper404 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Love your comment, and I agree.

  • @MartinScheuerJr
    @MartinScheuerJr 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

    The fact you could find that recording from the passenger is wild! Great work!

  • @robertmcghintheorca49
    @robertmcghintheorca49 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +72

    Why, my dear Chloe, you've done it again! You're coming a long way from your old days. As a fan of the DC-10, I'll be looking forward to seeing you tackle the stories of American Airlines Flight 96 and Turkish Airlines Flight 981, United Airlines Flight 232 and maybe even UTA Flight 772 if you do it as a double feature with Pan Am Flight 103 when you remake it. Keep up the good work!

    • @DisasterBreakdown
      @DisasterBreakdown  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      Thank you for watching all this time!

    • @kommandantgalileo
      @kommandantgalileo 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      We all love the story of 232.

  • @robertmcghintheorca49
    @robertmcghintheorca49 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    If anybody is wondering why the vibrations from the disintegrating tyre tread appeared to worsen as the pilots lifted the nose up, it's because the tyre was being held down by the nose and by extension, the weight of the pland itself. So when the nose lifted off the runway, the still rapidly spinning tyre had nothing to dampen its vibrations, therefore the vibrations appeared to worsen.

  • @kersebleptes1317
    @kersebleptes1317 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Your videos often tell harrowing stories, that can leave me thinking quietly for awhile. But I must say, the extremely careful & professional research that they are based on is a real balm.
    Thanks once more!

  • @Azaelys
    @Azaelys 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +94

    That Ikea Blåhaj reference was hilarious in how completely unexpected and understated it was.
    But about your videos! Thank you for taking the time to make these and do what you do - your way of approaching these events is diligent, pragmatic, and empathetic, and as a writer but also a member of your audience, it's obvious that you put great effort into the framework of your storytelling.
    As someone nonbinary and transmasculine, it's also been surprisingly stirring to hear these stories spoken aloud by someone with a calm, even, easy-to-listen-to voice and genuinely beautiful cadence who I know shares a similar-but-opposite gender identity. I've struggled A Lot with my relationship with my voice and it's been unexpectedly meaningful to randomly happen upon your channel in my... ravenous search... for more aviation related youtube videos (okay, so maybe I didn't "randomly" happen upon you then, lmfao).
    Anyway, thank you again for these videos, Chloe! When I'm in a place where I'm back on my feet I'll certainly be taking a look at your Patreon.
    Hoping you've had a fantastic week and that you go on to have an even better weekend,
    Sterling

    • @DisasterBreakdown
      @DisasterBreakdown  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

      Hi, Thank you so much for your comment

    • @alanm8932
      @alanm8932 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      That's it cadence!
      I've commented a couple of times about how carefully chosen the words are but it isn't just that, it's also the timing, especially the gaps/pauses. I couldn't think what the word for that is but you remind me it's cadence.
      - Thanks @Azaelys

    • @Azaelys
      @Azaelys 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      @@alanm8932 Omg yes! Happy to help. Those tip-of-your-tongue words are the worst 😩that was me with "aspersions" for a good chunk of today (I wanted to be all dramatic and say "now I don't mean to be castin' aspersions, but..." in a southern accent).

    • @rynovoski
      @rynovoski 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@alanm8932 It’s something that I really wish the guy from Mini Aircraft Investigations would focus on.

    • @liamannegarner8083
      @liamannegarner8083 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@AzaelysTrans girl with a bass voice. Seconding this, her cadence is wonderful and she DOES sound on point, she didn't need to worry. And hopefully, neither do you. Cadence can get you by so far, but you have my sympathy, since people don't have a cultural idea of an enby cadence you can emulate, I've heard from my amab enby friends. Could be wrong.

  • @sydneywhittington9563
    @sydneywhittington9563 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    love the depth that your visit to the crashsite adds to the video. brilliant work, congrats on your surgery!

  • @timeandnourishment1961
    @timeandnourishment1961 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

    Your channel is going from strength to strength, Chloe. Glad you're feeling better. Have a great weekend. Cheers 🍻!

  • @jwil8577
    @jwil8577 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    This was extremely well done! Hearing the passenger narrate the take off was unexpected but glad it was included in the video. Thanks for your hard work.

  • @PvtHaggard
    @PvtHaggard 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Awesome video as always Chloe. The quick cut to Ikea and Blahajs was gold and made my day.

  • @godblessamerica7048
    @godblessamerica7048 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    This is so sad-excellent video and well done. I lost three dear friends and fellow USAF airmen on Northwest Flight 255 on August 16, 1987, which crashed on takeoff under and near Interstate 94 also due to pilot error when they attempted to take off without the flaps set. I have attended the annual memorial service at the crash site three times, and videos are on my page. There is also a song that a first responder wrote. The crash is the deadliest, with a sole survivor, and became the second-worst U.S. crash at the time.

  • @Catiecatiecatiecaful
    @Catiecatiecatiecaful 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Chloe I love it that you’re so thorough and actually go to the site. Never seen someone so committed. I know you’re always going to give the most insight. I want you to know how much I appreciate you and your channel.

  • @MatBlackforever
    @MatBlackforever 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    Hope the recovery continues to go well Chloe!

  • @haroldowen6001
    @haroldowen6001 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I applaud the effort to play quiet calm music. Much appreciated!

  • @WadersIsBack
    @WadersIsBack 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

    Spilt second choices are so hard it happens anytime R.I.P for all who died 🙏 Btw 25:30 this was hilarious 😂

  • @rilmar2137
    @rilmar2137 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

    Good to see you back, Chloe! I'm amazed at the quality of your videos, it's nothing short of professional documentaries (and yours are way more accurate than 95% of what netflix spits out these days).
    It's reminds me of a saying a part of which is very apt here - there are three things useless to a pilot in case of emergency: The fuel you left on the ground. *The runway behind you.* The air above you.

    • @DisasterBreakdown
      @DisasterBreakdown  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Thank you so much :)

    • @BuddhaofBlackpool
      @BuddhaofBlackpool 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      A saying on everybody's lips 😂

    • @alfredwilson4224
      @alfredwilson4224 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      we lost the wheels on takeoff oot of lhr once and it vibrated wor all oot of wor seats but johnny stopped and 27r is laaaaaaang!!!!! nee chance of owarun there 😂❤

  • @bayoulafourche
    @bayoulafourche 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Chloe i love your openness. As for the video, no matter how many times I've seen certain air disaster videos, your research and delivery make it seem brand new.

  • @5amH45lam
    @5amH45lam 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +33

    The frustrating thing is, it probably wasn't those passengers retrieving hand luggage, slowing the evacuation, that perished. I hope then, that those who survived - with their 'precious' carry-on items intact - fully comprehend the result of their actions.

    • @trinity72gp
      @trinity72gp 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      In their favour they, in the 80s, acted in relative ignorance. The fact that ppl still do it today during evac is exasperating 😑

    • @alfredwilson4224
      @alfredwilson4224 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@trinity72gpamen.

    • @Jens-Viper-Nobel
      @Jens-Viper-Nobel 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@trinity72gp I have to disagree with that. I flew back and forth from home to my navy station from 79, and already then, we were ALWAYS told to bloody leave our luggage behind if we had to evacuate as it would (and that information was very clearly stressed already then) cause a delay in evacuation that could very possibly cost lives.
      And what is never mentioned even to this date is that the crew of the plane will in that case be among those getting killed because they have to stay on for as long as possible to ensure that all passengers are evacuated. So when people value their belongings so much that they are willing to spend time trying to retrieve it, consider that you not only risk blocking other people from escaping with their lives. You are almost ensuring the death of at least some of the crew who is supposed to get you out of there alive. And all because you value your belongings higher than the lives of other people.
      And I don't care if you have all your valuables in the luggage or medicine or the lab top with your whole written assignment for your university final exam. It is NOT worth a single life of somebody else. You can always replace lost things, or in the case of a lost exams assignment apply for a later examination due to your original assignment being destroyed in the accident. There is not a single university in the world that would deny you that option in the circumstances.
      To be quite frank about it, I consider each and every person in the world who will try to retrieve luggage in a disaster to be a coldblooded premaditated murderer. Because they cannot claim that it is a panic reaction they can't control. The fact that they will even consider retrieving the luggage because they value it highly shows clearly that they are NOT in a state of panic. Which means that they are litterally and premaditated ready to see other people die if it can help them save dead things rather than just have them replaced.

    • @trinity72gp
      @trinity72gp 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@Jens-Viper-Nobel Fair point. I'm not condoning the behaviour, just highlighting the fact that ppl today, modern times, are More informed than back then. Incidents and accidents since the 80s prove what cabin crew have been saying all along. Sad state of affairs in ANY situation that ppl would risk their life, and those of others, over possessions that can be replaced - when a life cannot 😑

  • @jacknio6032
    @jacknio6032 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    I’m happy someone touched on this accident! Also happy that someone even gave Spantax attention, seems like avgeek history nerds don’t too often

  • @Upholsterartist
    @Upholsterartist 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    We've all been waiting for this...
    Amazing job, Chloe!

  • @jackironsmith1118
    @jackironsmith1118 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Hey.
    I just want to say..
    That your series is the best my wife and I have seen to date.
    No bs.
    We were really, sincerely impressed by your well researched and well produced story.
    Am a retired aircraft mechanic:
    We’ve watch the other air disaster shows.
    Well…
    Mostly my wife and siblings.
    Cause then they come to me for verification.
    Like I’m an aviation dictionary.
    But, your show is the best I’ve seen so far.
    Take your time, keep up the good work.
    Haste makes waste.
    Thanks so much.
    John and Brandie
    New Hampshire.

  • @tracylynn6590
    @tracylynn6590 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Chloe i just want to tell you how impressed i am w/your presentations. Your narration & writing skills are Top Notch!!
    I've been a sub for a 1+. Nice to know you are recovering well from your surgery. Can't wait for your next vid!😊

  • @WingingItCrypto
    @WingingItCrypto 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    Really good vid as always! Your own footage from Malaga really added something. Glad to hear your surgery went well too!

    • @DisasterBreakdown
      @DisasterBreakdown  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      I am hoping to do more location footage in coming videos

  • @grapeshot
    @grapeshot 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    Fire on an aircraft truly terrifying I remember being 9 years old and watching that Air Canadian flight burn on the tarmac at the Cincinnati Northern Kentucky Airport.

    • @railfandepotproductions
      @railfandepotproductions 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You mean that air Canada dc9

    • @grapeshot
      @grapeshot 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@railfandepotproductions yeah okay

  • @flyingfeline7110
    @flyingfeline7110 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    So good to see this disaster covered with your usual thorough analysis. Very sad that while crew were dying while trying to get people out, passengers were dying because they were trying to retrieve their hand luggage.
    Spantax, Spanair, Aviaco, Hispania...all names from my teen plane-spotting days. I remember one family holiday in 1984 My Dad and I were due to fly from MAN to PMI on Air Europe's brand new Boeing 757 - unfortunately it had a serious technical problem, and so, 12 hours later, a Spantax DC-8 was sent out to Manchester to collect us. My spotter disappointment on missing out on the 757 turned to delirious excitement when my dad and I saw that big old Spantax DC-8 rumbling towards the gate!

    • @chrisnizer5702
      @chrisnizer5702 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      My first flight was onboard a United Airlines DC-8 Super 60 Series Stretch in "Friend-Ship" livery. Nonstop from Friendship Airport (now BWI) to San Francisco. The second the flight crew opened the throttles on those JT3-D's I was fascinated with jet aircraft in general and DC-8's in particular.

    • @josmclove4426
      @josmclove4426 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Sweet👌🏾

  • @FshyFsh
    @FshyFsh 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Yay I'm always excited when I get a notification that Chloe (DisasterBreakdown) has posted a new video!!!

  • @nirmalkarthikeyan7346
    @nirmalkarthikeyan7346 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Love from Newcastle! I've been looking forward to this from yesterday!! Absolutely amazing job, as usual, and the story telling and depth of investigation just keeps getting better with every video :")

    • @DisasterBreakdown
      @DisasterBreakdown  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ayyy Newcastle! That's where I'm from :)

    • @nirmalkarthikeyan7346
      @nirmalkarthikeyan7346 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@DisasterBreakdown whoa okay
      I've been watching for a couple years now, moved in only a few months back :))
      Amazing city though! Love it here. Such history. I went to Morpeth station just to see the curve barely a month after moving 😁

  • @zestyquestman8378
    @zestyquestman8378 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Yes! I knew the picture from your last video was Malaga! Great to see you feature my city, even though it is in such a grim context...

    • @DisasterBreakdown
      @DisasterBreakdown  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Malaga is always lovely to visit :)

  • @blinkie1114
    @blinkie1114 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    So cool to thank Lost victims. I value their comments so much and I’m so glad they helped in finding the names of the flight attendants.

  • @coolhand-pictures
    @coolhand-pictures 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Hi Chloe 🙋, many thanks for another great production! It made my day. My homebase is Cologne and I remember an accident when I was 5 at Cologne airport. A Spantax flight from Mallorca made a gear up landing. The accident report blamed the crew for simply not lowering the gear in absence of any checklist read out. The forgot it. The airline had a bad reputation in Germany, and was offering cheap flights. Greetings from CGN Germany, Marco

  • @sasquatchkiddo3720
    @sasquatchkiddo3720 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    happy news that the surgery went well! and thank you for putting this out even tho you're still in recovery. It's a shame the loss of life bc people didn't want to lose their belongings. i'm happy it's more stressed now that everything can be replaced but ones own life.

  • @Iexapro
    @Iexapro 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I’m glad you’re doing well after your surgeries but please don’t feel pressured to put out videos while you’re recovering. Your voice has always been calming cadence to me despite the usually heavy subject matter of the video so thank you for your hard work and get plenty of rest 💖

    • @carolinekathleen5277
      @carolinekathleen5277 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      what surgeries did she get? i hope she’s ok

  • @BarkingLondon
    @BarkingLondon 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    What a video on this. Respect for getting the names of the cabin crew & visiting the crash site.
    You take this very seriously & your the right person for it with the right voice.
    Hpe your all good after your face surgery. 😎👍🏻 ✈️

  • @beccyvc5743
    @beccyvc5743 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Love from Switzerland, hope your recovery is going well! ❤

  • @rososwald3588
    @rososwald3588 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have just found this channel. It is everything that is good about TH-cam. Informative, accurate, very well presented and researched. Thank you 😊

  • @holychickenmcnugget7107
    @holychickenmcnugget7107 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Welcome back after your Break! 🎉🎉🎉🎉❤

  • @zeldafan4567
    @zeldafan4567 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great video! My grandfather had a ticket booked for this flight. He was a lawyer and had business in New York. Thankfully, he was late, as usual, and missed the flight. I have flown out of Malaga a few times, and knowing my familial connection to this tragedy, makes it a bit unsettling.

  • @kippuliana5769
    @kippuliana5769 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Clocked into work and see a new Disaster Breakdown video! It’s gonna be a good day

  • @FEAR.LESS.
    @FEAR.LESS. 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Brilliant journalism. Brilliant aviation knowledge. It doesn't get better than this. Sad subject but absolutely spot on with the facts and the reportage. No crash, no matter how old is still as important today as it was when an aircraft and souls aboard is lost. Thank you.

  • @sachinshah4745
    @sachinshah4745 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    So good of you to visit this accident place so recently

  • @Thatguyjack758
    @Thatguyjack758 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Very well done as always. One day you have to cover the max 8 crashes on lion air and Ethiopian. Because the pilots weren’t aware of the mcas feature, it opened up an investigation into Boeing, come to find out they left out mcas in the training manuals.

    • @DisasterBreakdown
      @DisasterBreakdown  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Something tells me I might be getting to that soon

    • @Thatguyjack758
      @Thatguyjack758 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@DisasterBreakdown awesome.

  • @samiyarossini
    @samiyarossini 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I shouldn't be surprised, but I didn't know retreaded tires were a thing in aviation. They were the bane of my grandfather and father's existence when they were still alive and hauling cargo in their trucks. (Papaw was mostly local, my dad was long-haul.) They were banned from use on drive wheels, but still having them on the back or the trailer didn't stop them from ripping apart on the highway. Or exploding next to people just rocking out to music in their car while they drove back from seeing urgent care...

    • @wilsjane
      @wilsjane 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      To me, the whole chain of events seemed so obvious.
      I strongly suspect that he knew that the vibration was coming from the nosewheel and would cease at VR.
      However, what he did NOT realise was that the moment the nose lifted, the tyre would have been spinning at high speed an not having the ground to absorb 50% of the vibration, in the aircraft it would increase, then slowly decrease as the wheel slowed down.
      When things did not happen as expected, the increase in vibration led him to think that he had imbalance in one of the engine rotors or fans and continuing to climb would have caused it to break up.
      Unfortunately, he did not stop and think at the most critical time. His mind switched to the problems that he would have had, climbing, going around, then landing overweight.
      A fatal mistake, that took less then 5 seconds to make.

    • @Woodman-Spare-that-tree
      @Woodman-Spare-that-tree 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@wilsjane. Thank you. I know nothing about planes, but your explanation about why getting the wheels off the ground doesn’t actually solve the problem, sounds like the truth of what happened.

  • @sadiqjohnny77
    @sadiqjohnny77 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    In 1982 I was Chief Pilot Standards on DC 10-30 for PIA. I was taking off from London Heathrow for Karachi with a full load. At close to V1 a strong vibration began and we passed V1 before I could take action. Fortunately I had experienced "nosewheel shimmy" before and guessed what the vibration was. I told the copilot not to retract the wheels and asked the Tower for permission to proceed straight ahead as I did not want to make any turns until I could work out what was wrong. The vibration continued for about two minutes and then diminished. When it stopped we tried retracting the wheels and everything became normal. We did a complete check on cockpit indications and decided that it must have been a vibration caused by the nosewheel. We continued on our flight and landed at Karachi. I held the nosewheel off the runway as long as possible in the landing and, sure enough, the vibration began again. No damage to our aircraft or its passengers and crew. A month later I received a report from the noise monitoring people at Heathrow that I had not followed the normal departure path after take off and committed a noise violation!! That was withdrawn after I described the circumstances.

  • @TherealHrtdsd34
    @TherealHrtdsd34 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    OHHH IVE BEEN WAITIN

  • @agnieszkapiasecka4124
    @agnieszkapiasecka4124 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I do not know if you agree with this but I noticed that currently we have little room for error. More and more airports are surrounded tightly with buildings or other infrastructure. Overrun should not happen but what if it does once in many times?

  • @AtlanticGiantPumpkin
    @AtlanticGiantPumpkin 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    I love the little nod to the blåhaj trans solidarity 🤣
    EDIT: also hey your birthday is a day after mine!! Also CONGRATS ON FACIAL SURGERY!!! I’m excited to see the changes if you’re comfortable sharing them! You’re a really big inspiration to me.

  • @micahmitchell2330
    @micahmitchell2330 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It makes me happy you are able to visit these places. Enjoy your travels and thanks for the great content!

  • @Phiyedough
    @Phiyedough 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    People who evacuate with luggage should go to prison.

  • @joshuaboulee8190
    @joshuaboulee8190 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you for the work you put into this! I imagine this was harder than some others just because it hasnt been covered to death already. I'm glad you're feeling better.

  • @stevencooke6451
    @stevencooke6451 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Good point in particular at the end regarding hand luggage. The accident in Tokyo recently highighted how much smoother an emergency evacuation runs when passengers are compliant, where no passengers on the larger plane died as the plane caught fire on the runway.

  • @jacquesc0usteau
    @jacquesc0usteau 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Yes, I remember seeing them on that Twitter post! Thank you Lost Victims, you’re incredible for this work!!

  • @TheoriginalKnevel
    @TheoriginalKnevel 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    OH yes a new video leeets gooooo!

  • @Lesleyanna-p2g
    @Lesleyanna-p2g 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Beautiful narration, so easy to listen to refined speech.....thank you.

  • @CAROLUSPRIMA
    @CAROLUSPRIMA 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Greeting from Eastern Kentucky.
    I’ve seen several episodes from various sources regarding this crash. This video being over thirty minutes long, I’d have probably skipped this - had it been from almost any other aviation channel.
    In fact I almost didn’t watch this. That would have been a mistake. This channel always seems to provide a fresh perspective, regardless of how much the viewer already knows about the crash. That’s certainly true in this instance.

    • @xxEzraBxxx
      @xxEzraBxxx 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Central Kentucky here! Good to see other fans from my state.

    • @CAROLUSPRIMA
      @CAROLUSPRIMA 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@xxEzraBxxx Sure enough. My pleasure indeed.

  • @danikim235
    @danikim235 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Wow, the production on this video is top-notch, well done! Wishing you a speedy recovery and looking forward to more frequent weather report segments ;)

  • @vietnhannguyen5586
    @vietnhannguyen5586 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Right on The Lunar New Year time

    • @WobblesandBean
      @WobblesandBean 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Uh oh. Is it really? Ugh I completely forgot, I need to buy a mooncake for my in-laws 😅

  • @jonchowe
    @jonchowe 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Amazing video. What a fantastic piece of research to get that recording up. That's truly a one of a kind recording from the time!

  • @isnitjustkit
    @isnitjustkit 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    25:30 Average trans person whenever they are within 30 miles of an Ikea

  • @agnieszkakowalska9658
    @agnieszkakowalska9658 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You sounded absolutely on point! As always, a thoughtful analysis. It's a pleasure to follow your videos, Chloe.

  • @weaviejeebies
    @weaviejeebies 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Chloe, you're so thorough in every video, and your production skills are amazing. You always present such a balanced analysis, too. I've learned so much from you in the short time I've been subscribed. Thanks for making TH-cam still a viable platform for me.

  • @theBabyChu
    @theBabyChu 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    So glad you are feeling better. You sounded right on point. Thanks for the video.

  • @Completeaerogeek
    @Completeaerogeek 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love your take on these documentaries. I am a professional (postgraduate qualified) airline safety investigator and I usually end up picking these kinds of videos to bits but yours are very well done.

  • @scdawn8658
    @scdawn8658 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Chloe another amazing video, with a special voice recording. Hope all is well with you, lots a love, hug

  • @isbestlizard
    @isbestlizard 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I like you give sources and references it's so awesome to see youtubers taking the same rigour to their videos as academic researchers do :D

    • @DisasterBreakdown
      @DisasterBreakdown  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I feel for videos like this, these days this should be necessary I think. I really personally hope some of my fellow creators in this space do something similar

  • @JPEaglesandKatz
    @JPEaglesandKatz 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Your documentaries are of amazing quality.... Very indept and informative.... With a spark of humar where appropriate. Much appreciate your hard work as I know it takes a HUGE amount of time to make documentaries like this..

  • @hughboyd2904
    @hughboyd2904 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Another exceptional accident investigation - bravo Chloe! Love your work.

  • @HannahHudson787dl
    @HannahHudson787dl 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you for a fantastic video….. I hope your ok, your really brave for doing this while poorly I really hope you will be ok xx

  • @DouglasCarnall
    @DouglasCarnall 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    If the vibration was due to the nose wheel tyre, I don't understand why the vibration didn't cease immediately after rotation?

  • @CoolBreezeWyndi
    @CoolBreezeWyndi 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hey, I just found your channel with this video and I absolutely love the way that you did it. I'm glad to hear that you're recovering from your surgery...... I've had a few accidents recently that meant a few surgeries and it was rough. I subscribed to your channel because I'm an AV fan and I love the way that you did this one.

  • @Theonewhoseeks12
    @Theonewhoseeks12 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I’ve always wondered what happened to this airplane and the crash thank you for showing this video Chloe!

  • @pooryorick831
    @pooryorick831 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Another terrific video. These are the best aviation documentaries on TH-cam. Thanks for all the work you do. It's obvious you put a tremendous amount of effort into this. It shows. 👍🏻☮️✌️

  • @andyhill242
    @andyhill242 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Glad to hear that the surgery went well and that you are recovering well; particularly glad to hear that you are happy with the results. FYI, if you hadn't said that your voice sounded different, I don't think I would have noticed.

  • @maratusa
    @maratusa 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You sounded perfect, as ever! We have all been keeping you top of mind while you recover. Love from Mississippi, USA! Fantastic video, by the way!

  • @nikiandre6998
    @nikiandre6998 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Darling! Thank you for all yourr hard work, you are making amazing, interesting, informative content!!

  • @rachmunshine9474
    @rachmunshine9474 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I was happy when I saw 30 minutes versus like 12 from some of the older ones and then when I saw two hours ago, I believe it said, I was like this is the new one that she’s been talking about! Thanks, Chloe for all the work you’ve put in!

  • @rachelpage1971
    @rachelpage1971 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    OMG..i wish id known you were at AGP!! Its my local airport and i like to go to plaza major purely to be in the flight path! Going to IKEA monday 😊 I haven't seen this accident covered so thank you Chloe ❤ Good to hear all went well and recovery was good 👍😊

  • @SvenBollue
    @SvenBollue 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Many thanks for yet another fantastic video and analysis!!

  • @HeSaidMag
    @HeSaidMag 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This was a great video with so much research. Glad the surgery went well and looking forward to seeing you back on screen.

  • @DavidMScott-cs8pp
    @DavidMScott-cs8pp 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Surely a system can be put in place that automatically locks the overhead bins until a safe landing is accomplished or at least when something unusual happens. Passengers would be reminded of same more than once pre takeoff.

  • @antonydavies8379
    @antonydavies8379 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Concise, well researched, well produced and excellent as always Chloe, no need to apologise, wishing you a speedy recovery

  • @russelldunn2999
    @russelldunn2999 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I've really liked your thorough and detailed accountings of these accidents, and it's also explained in "layman's terms." I especially appreciate your acknowledgement of the 3 flight attendants that perished, and the efforts involving the flight manifest recovery service that has honored them. Minor petty complaint: I think the 5-second anecdote of the Ikea side trip could have been omitted, as it distracted from the otherwise appropriately somber account of the chaotic evacuation following the crash. Again, very minor, and I otherwise think your series of these videos is commendable and noble!

  • @Lesleyanna-p2g
    @Lesleyanna-p2g 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Your usual superb, calming narration makes your channel a joy to watch and learn from, thank you for all the hard work you put in. Very much appreciated. Love from air crash survivor, new zealand. P.S.......they really should implement a LAW that states : if a passenger even attempts to retrieve hand luggage during a cabin evacuation, they will automatically be charged with 2nd degree murder should othet passengers lose their lives as a result of this supremely selfish and inexcusable act. Xx

  • @tintin9573
    @tintin9573 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Wow! Always an improvement with each video that is uploaded! I am surprised how underrated this channel is!

    • @DisasterBreakdown
      @DisasterBreakdown  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you for the kind words :)

  • @R8andGT3Fan
    @R8andGT3Fan 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm glad we all agree about the quality of the videos...another great one!
    That poor captain had to make a decision in an extremely difficult situation. I feel sorry for him. May all the victims rest in peace.

  • @UncleBooBoo
    @UncleBooBoo 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My compliments to you on another amazing video, Chloe. Amazing graphics quality and so moving to hear the passenger recording. I like the occasional marvellous turn of phrase you use too.

  • @hectorpascal
    @hectorpascal 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The only good thing to come out of this accident, is that pilots will now be aware that a front tire burst may be a simple cause of vibration during take off. And also that rules/good practice during take offs are there for a purpose.