The Pilot Was on Something... (Trans Colorado Flight 2286) - DISASTER BREAKDOWN

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  • @DisasterBreakdown
    @DisasterBreakdown  2 ปีที่แล้ว +191

    Hey everyone, I have been feeling a bit under the weather this week. My apologies for how my voice may have sounded in this video. I am feeling better today and my voice is recovering. Looking forward to next week!
    If you found this video to be interesting, be sure to subscribe as there is a new video every Saturday. This video also went out to my Patrons on Patreon 48 hours before going out publicly. Consider joining here from £1 per month: www.patreon.com/DisasterBreakdown
    Twitter: twitter.com/Chloe_HowieCB

    • @justchillin8086
      @justchillin8086 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      very nice

    • @rilmar2137
      @rilmar2137 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Get well soon!

    • @andrewstevens5145
      @andrewstevens5145 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Glad you’re feeling better. I’m right there with you this past week with a little bug giving me stuffy nose and a cough, I could tell you were in the same boat but it was not distracting in the slightest! Great video and you still have my favorite voice even when you’re under the weather! I would be ecstatic if every narration I listened to was your voice!

    • @algermom1
      @algermom1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The video is quality, and your narration is professional as always. Get well soon!

    • @Mikki-Moo
      @Mikki-Moo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yeah, I definitely noticed how different you sound! Just make sure not to overdo it, take it easy and rest up well!

  • @Dovietail
    @Dovietail 2 ปีที่แล้ว +325

    I flew this route in THIS plane back in the eighties. Not exagerating: I swear it was like riding in the back of your dad's van. You could completely see into the cockpit, and when the pilots leaned over to examine maps on the floor (yes, the floor!) you could feel the plane tilting in that direction. Between the scattershot flying and the winds coming off the rockies, it was never a dull damned moment.

    • @Erynwithawhy13
      @Erynwithawhy13 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      That sounds absolutely insane, what an experience 😅

    • @leeburgers2444
      @leeburgers2444 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Sounds like an absolute train wreck 😂😂😂

    • @bayoulafourche
      @bayoulafourche ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That's crazy. Did you know the pilots involved? My dad flew for TI before they got bought out. He and a buddy started a cropdusting business when I a a kid. I had a blast helping out in the summers. I turned out fairly normal even though I spent entire days covered with whatever they were spraying, like 245T among other things. You can guess who the spotter was. So what did you do after flying this plane?

    • @jamesb.9155
      @jamesb.9155 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I remember a flight in a DC-3 in rural central America in 1973 where there were wooden crates in the floor and animals on the flight! Luck was with us.

    • @alexburke1899
      @alexburke1899 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@jamesb.9155anyone who flew in the 70’s and 80’s is basically lucky to be here looking back at some of these accidents. At the time though we had no idea how many crashes were happening each year throughout the world, sometimes due to mechanical failures, because they only reported the local or big international crashes.
      Watching this series makes you realize we were flying with pilots basically using dead reckoning and WW2 level technology radio beacons lol.
      Like if there’s timers in the cockpit and the pilots are using them during the landing approach it might get sketchy lol. Plus half the pilots were probably recovering from a cocaine bender because it was the 80’s.
      We were flying on planes that could have a hard rudder over or lose a cargo door at any moment for like a decade, and they didn’t fix it until more people died. So looking back I feel a bit lucky to have survived flying in that era.
      Nowadays I think the chances of a mid-air collision are higher than we think, and all these near misses the past couple of years are basically a huge warning light that traffic is too high for controllers to handle safely with the current technology. So if there was another Tenerife type crash unfortunately I wouldn’t be surprised at all because all the signs have been here.

  • @kingcarisma
    @kingcarisma 2 ปีที่แล้ว +169

    The 80s seems like the wild west decade of aviation.. it's crazy how many incidents it was

    • @gnarthdarkanen7464
      @gnarthdarkanen7464 2 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      The 80's and 90's (at least in the U.S.) presented the last years of the "Aviator Cowboys" in the industry... Many were vet's from WWII and 'Nam, and the FAA's "forced retirement" legislation helped clip their wings, though some would argue it was still a bit too little and too late to avoid them causing more harm than necessary...
      AND nothing against ex-military as pilots. They have more vigorous training and experience than Corporations are willing to pay for in civilians... Their "cavalier" attitudes, however, can come across to students and inexperienced pilots as an encouragement toward arrogance, and THAT lends to the kinds of disaster-clusters like we seemed to see in the 80's and 90's. ;o)

    • @Dwightstjohn-fo8ki
      @Dwightstjohn-fo8ki 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @@gnarthdarkanen7464 a subtle way to clean clock on the old dudes. We did that in const. in BC a decade plus ago: all crane and various lift operators had to re-take their provincial certification tests. It was a subtle way to get rid of the alcoholics, crackheads, and other idiots. If you showed up and boasted about your 'experience" you got the hard questions,and the fail! In BC Canada those credentials are usually enforced, unlike some "freedom fry" states and jurisdictions where safety is just window dressing.

    • @gnarthdarkanen7464
      @gnarthdarkanen7464 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@Dwightstjohn-fo8ki Yup... For those who's slight errors or minor miscalculations could result in egregious damages and "mass casualty events" a regular re-testing or even regular "brush-up" courses would be a good idea on any level. Weeding out arrogance alongside the crack-heads and idiots is just a side benefit... kind of a bonus.
      It IS also only arrogance if the boast is somehow incorrect. That's where a truly remarkable pilot can accidentally encourage the wrong intensive self esteem or approval. To the guy who really DOES know what to do "It's just a _____... no big deal." Is generally correct. BUT the aspiring noob' is likely to try and emulate, thinking the attitude is just as important as the knowledge... AND you get damage from an arrogant fool. ;o)

    • @a3300000
      @a3300000 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@gnarthdarkanen7464 what airline do you fly for?

    • @gnarthdarkanen7464
      @gnarthdarkanen7464 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@a3300000 I don't. You couldn't pay me enough to deal any further with the general public than I already do (which is largely running out of the room screaming)...
      I DO however have a rigorous and lengthy history with Remotes and Experimentals (ultralights)... AND those bring together a WIDE variety of folks from many walks of life under the general umbrella of "anything to get my ass off the ground"...
      SO from the Father-son Teams on trophy remotes, "Trying to teach the boy self control" to the old codger adding a supercharger to an EJ-22 Subaru engine (THE Cadillac of its time in ultralights and "flying go-karts") to relive his glory-days... I've seen the gamut among both arrogance and truly remarkable skill. I've had a lot of BOTH "good" and "bad" conversations.
      SO it's not particularly difficult to see how the same kinds of interactions and fall-out can plague the Commercial sector of the industry. The only REAL differences are the prices of the planes and the numbers of lives in danger or wiped out in an accident. ;o)

  • @ZombieSazza
    @ZombieSazza 2 ปีที่แล้ว +330

    Christ, there’s negligence and then there’s THIS. Cannot believe the captain, knowing he was under the influence, didn’t call in sick or say he didn’t feel right and needed replaced, just knowingly got on the craft knowing he wasn’t in any fit state.

    • @rodgerrodger1839
      @rodgerrodger1839 2 ปีที่แล้ว +77

      When you get caught up in the world of doing blow,you make really bad decisions. Real bad. If you don't end up dead at some point, you look back and say " How could I have been so stupid to do that?" Uh, it's called coke. Me? I combined it with staggering amounts of alcohol. I just lost everything by 1989. From 83-89 I is all it took destroy my life. By 89 my restaurant was gone, car, self-esteem, gone, everything gone. That's what happens to you when you cook your brain on blow. I'm sober 31 years now Nov. 4. I rebuilt my life, I lived. This guy and many of my old friends couldn't stop and are very dead now too. Lots of them. It's no f***ing joke.

    • @sarahalbers5555
      @sarahalbers5555 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      How the hell did these fools get hired?

    • @rodgerrodger1839
      @rodgerrodger1839 2 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      @@sarahalbers5555 They were probably not coke heads before they were hired.Or casual users.Then you find yourself snorting the stuff before,during,afterwork. You don't sleep for two or three days. You drink a quart of vodka and your still standing. You pass out finally. That's not sleep. You wake up, you feel horrible. You do more blow to get to work. You work 14 hrs at your restaurant. You shake it off. You feel better. You eat. You start drinking at 4:00 when your girlfriend comes by because she works next store at the vitamin shop. You leave. You drink. You get more blow. It starts all over again. You head to San Francisco. Your now doomed. $$$$$$ Flys out of your pockets and up you nose.
      They obviously didn't do drug testing of any type

    • @232K7
      @232K7 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@rodgerrodger1839 aahh the 80's. Coke was what weed is today 😅

    • @rodgerrodger1839
      @rodgerrodger1839 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @@232K7 What a f***ing mess it was. You can hold it together for a few years because your young. I always showed up to work no matter how horrible I felt, I had to. Then the wheels come off. You look at your ATM receipts on Sunday. You've gone through 500.00 bucks in 1987. All you have left is a very bad hangover, a half a pack of Lark cigarettes. Sometimes there's a strange woman watching TV in the living room chain smoking wearing your favorite Doobie Brothers t-shirt. She needs a ride home to Burlingame. You have no idea who she is and what her name is.. good times!

  • @5roundsrapid263
    @5roundsrapid263 2 ปีที่แล้ว +92

    Snow brought the plane down, but a different kind of snow…

    • @michaelosgood9876
      @michaelosgood9876 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It wasn't the 'snow' that brought that plane down.. It was the idiot who had been on it the night before..

    • @KingStr0ng
      @KingStr0ng ปีที่แล้ว +9

      ​@@michaelosgood9876 So it's the snow.

    • @char1737
      @char1737 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yes he was all it up !

  • @the-trustees
    @the-trustees 2 ปีที่แล้ว +66

    I was on a flight from Tampa to Knoxville. I happened to be sitting near a pilot for the airline deadheading home. By the time my team got our luggage and rent a car, we pulled into a Racetrack Gas station and by a weird coincidence the pilot was there and he was pouring whiskey into a Listerine bottle for his DRIVE home. I was so happy he wasn't the one doing the flying on that trip! 🤪

    • @thecrazyracoon
      @thecrazyracoon 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      the good ol brown listerine

    • @the-trustees
      @the-trustees 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@thecrazyracoon Right? It had never occurred to me that this behavior existed before that night. 🤣

    • @YanDaOne_QC
      @YanDaOne_QC 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      When did it happen and with which airline?

    • @the-trustees
      @the-trustees 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Southwest... 1999.

    • @deeanna8448
      @deeanna8448 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      What an idiot. Getting a DUI is a great way to tank a flying career. Wonder if he's still flying.

  • @Skauldrich
    @Skauldrich 2 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    Honestly, Aeroflot Flight 821 came to mind when the title first showed up on my feed. This was an equally interesting incident to explore...
    Great video!

    • @DisasterBreakdown
      @DisasterBreakdown  2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Thanks. I have heard about the Aeroflot incident, also not isolated from what I've also heard

    • @tommcglone2867
      @tommcglone2867 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That was where the captain had downed a lot of vodka right

    • @b.t.356
      @b.t.356 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@tommcglone2867 Indeed. The captain was inebriated out of his mind and it cost over seven dozen people their lives. The CVR, which is incredibly chilling and sad, is available on TH-cam, and the inebriation is extremely evident in the captain's voice.

    • @laceneil4570
      @laceneil4570 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Honestly, Aeroflot has so many incidents it makes me wonder if all Russian pilots are raving mad, or if it was just a Soviet thing and they're better now.

    • @RBMapleLeaf
      @RBMapleLeaf 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@laceneil4570 Actually no. Not all pilots were incompetent. Trust me search up incident of the Tupolev 104 it had a string of accidents involving Aeroflot but it wasn't the fault of the pilots. In fact if I had to be honest. The most reliable plane from Russia was the Tupolev 114 the fastest Turboprop in the world though people know the Tupolev 154 mostly.

  • @Operngeist1
    @Operngeist1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +300

    Please don't push yourself just to bring out a new video in time, Chloe. Your health is more important and I'd rather you recover completely!

    • @frozenuruguayball6436
      @frozenuruguayball6436 2 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      @Marcus Train Guy so the person behind all the videos there name is Chloe band they have a personal channel and the most recent video she came out as trans so yeah

    • @Wonderwhoopin
      @Wonderwhoopin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Don’t listen to him. Yolo! Make em whenever you want. It’s your channel your choice! Don’t let anyone bully you! 🎉❤

    • @isaacscreations5629
      @isaacscreations5629 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Wonderwhoopin Marcus' question is reasonable

    • @danielabackstrom
      @danielabackstrom 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @Marcus Train Guy Chloe came out a while ago. There's a video on her private channel which is linked in the description 😊

    • @healingandgrowth-infp4677
      @healingandgrowth-infp4677 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Chloe ??????? Is their voice that bad….
      This is a man mate

  • @jasfds17
    @jasfds17 2 ปีที่แล้ว +102

    I'm from India and frequently travel to Nepal. The aviation history in Nepal is littered with so many crashes primarily attributed to the mountainous terrain. In fact recently there was a crash on the sector between Jomsom (JMO) and Pokhara (PKR) which is being defined as a controlled descent into terrain where the pilot loses their bearings during the flight. Why don't you make some videos about the crashes in Nepal. I've hardly seen anyone covering these.

    • @RBMapleLeaf
      @RBMapleLeaf 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Just throwing some examples
      Thai Airways 311
      Pakistan International Airlines 268
      Those two I know but I'm sure there is more than that.

    • @ahogg5960
      @ahogg5960 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      If the accident reports are publicly available, it's definitely possible.

    • @materiagrezza9331
      @materiagrezza9331 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@RBMapleLeaf Sorry for the late reply but I'm throwing in US-Bangla Airlines flight 211 in. That's a crazy one which story is worth telling.

    • @RBMapleLeaf
      @RBMapleLeaf 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@materiagrezza9331 I’ve actually seen parts of it. All I’m going to reveal to those who don’t know is this one line
      “What was the Captain doing?”

  • @RBMapleLeaf
    @RBMapleLeaf 2 ปีที่แล้ว +80

    Hello Chloe, great video loved seeing this accident offically covered this is the first time somebody has made a documentary on this crash
    1: in the Wiki page it's worth noting First Officer Harvey according to NTSB stated he had a history of Alcohol abuse
    However, he did his physical exam the day before and he was in the autopsy reported to be free of illegal substances and alcohol.
    This wasn't mentioned but it was worth taking account.
    And 2: although not necessary the registration of the Fairchild Metroliner iii was N68TC
    There have been also instances of accidents where similar to this one pilot counteracts or doesn't do anything examples being
    Ailtaila (I think I said it wrong) Flight 404
    Northwest Airlink 5719
    KLM Cityhopper Flight 433
    Yak Service Flight 9633
    Pakistan International Airlines Flight 268
    If you were to do a flight close to disaster recommendations being
    American Airlines flight 1572
    Qantas Airways flight 72 or 32
    China Airlines Flight 006
    Olympic Airways Flight 411
    Just giving some inspiration or ideas of what you could do next
    As I've said loved the video. Nothing lots to complain about and the fact you are the first person to create a documentary about Trans-Colorado Flight 2286.

    • @sharoncassell5273
      @sharoncassell5273 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Alitalia. I used to work for them @ JFK in USA.

  • @StellaMurano
    @StellaMurano 2 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    Thank you, Chloe! I was waiting for the new episode from early morning and I was refreshing your channel's page every half an hour or so. 😅 In the meantime, I rewatched (again!) some of your previous episodes. Keep up the good work, it's a pure pleasure to watch your channel grow 💖

    • @DisasterBreakdown
      @DisasterBreakdown  2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Thank you so much for watching! I'm thrilled you like my content

    • @StellaMurano
      @StellaMurano 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@DisasterBreakdown My pleasure! And I forgot to add: get well soon 🌟💖

    • @BlindManWalking
      @BlindManWalking 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The videos come out at 8 AM Eastern standard time every Saturday.

    • @StellaMurano
      @StellaMurano 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@BlindManWalking ok, thanks, so it's like 2pm in my location/ CEST, good to know, I must have missed this info ☺️

    • @datoneg2004
      @datoneg2004 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@DisasterBreakdown is this not a reupload?

  • @shatteredshards8549
    @shatteredshards8549 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    In the US, not just flight crews are subject to random drug testing, but people who work in station operations are subject as well. It's sad that accidents like this have to happen in order for laws, that should be matter of fact, to be enacted.

  • @josephtaub20
    @josephtaub20 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I have flown into this airport back in 1968. If you overrun the landing strip, there is an immediate drop of several hundred feet. Some planes have used this to get airbourne, using the dop to gain speed to fly.

    • @gregfaris6959
      @gregfaris6959 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This belongs to that category of "fun facts" that would be even more fun if it were true.

    • @josephtaub20
      @josephtaub20 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This is the best I remember it. Saw a plane drop a bit after takeoff one time. Of course, at my age I know everything but can't remember it. @@gregfaris6959

  • @heyguysitsbeth
    @heyguysitsbeth 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    These are always a treat to watch Chloe, and glad to hear that youre feeling better now as well

  • @josephconnor2310
    @josephconnor2310 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Thank you for covering this crash. Hope you continue to get better.

  • @sparrowhawk_lastname
    @sparrowhawk_lastname 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Great video as usual! I'm surprised that this is the first video I've seen on this crash, considering the changes that resulted from it. I can't wait to see what the next video will be about! Your videos are one more thing that makes me look forward to the weekends.

  • @almightysamwhich4203
    @almightysamwhich4203 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Always excited for these videos keep up the good work Chloe!

  • @Wailordplushie
    @Wailordplushie 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for all you do Chloe! You make amazing content and we’ll all still tune in no matter how long the process takes, just take care of yourself!

  • @flyyhighhr
    @flyyhighhr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Wow, imagine railing a line and thinking to yourself "Let's go fly a plane full of people!" crazy world we live in

    • @Destilight
      @Destilight 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You'd be surprised about the amount of people that coke up in jobs where they shouldn't. Specially in the medical sector.

    • @flyyhighhr
      @flyyhighhr 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Destilight yea i believe that it's just crazy people are out there making those decisions

    • @RatPfink66
      @RatPfink66 ปีที่แล้ว

      Why wouldn't you?! Coke makes you Superman! You could tow that plane with a rope in your teeth!

    • @goclimbsomething
      @goclimbsomething 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hmm, you have clearly never had a habit..

  • @osiris5432
    @osiris5432 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I completed ground school and started the flight portion of training at a smaller airport in Durango CO (Animas Air Park) and this crash was fairly recent and a huge focus of my instructor. She was particularly venomous in her words on the Captain and rightly so. Between high desert, high mountain features and tornado prone plains, Colorado is a place that desperately wants to kill you on a good day.

  • @williamfeilhauer
    @williamfeilhauer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    You're health is more important than anything, with out it you have nothing. You're dignified demeanor separates you from the wannabes. Fantastic job with these videos.thanks so much.

  • @gelatinous6915
    @gelatinous6915 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    This was a pretty obscure disaster. I live in Denver and most people have never even hard of Trans Colorado Airlines, nonetheless of this crash. We remember the Continental crash, but not this. Also, Denver has always had a huge drug problem. It used to be cocaine, but now it's meth, particularly fentanyl-laced meth.

    • @b.t.356
      @b.t.356 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Continental 1713, Continental 1404, or both?

    • @Charlestonthecool41
      @Charlestonthecool41 ปีที่แล้ว

      Jesus, they're stepping out meth with Fentanyl now too? Talk about canceling out the entire purpose of using that sh*t in the first place.
      It's horrible for obvious reasons, but I also just can't get over that moronic business strategy of killing off your customers.

  • @nyxqueenofshadows
    @nyxqueenofshadows 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    great video, as always! hope you feel better soon!

    • @DisasterBreakdown
      @DisasterBreakdown  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I am starting to feel better, just getting over the late stages

  • @phantomf4747
    @phantomf4747 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video as usual. Glad you're feeling better too!

  • @radudeATL
    @radudeATL 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You sound fantastic, and I appreciate the fact that you do voiceovers for your videos. Some of the other folks who do these videos rely too much on just animations and text, and that gets old.

  • @Dilley_G45
    @Dilley_G45 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for the video. I enjoy this topic

  • @CO84trucker
    @CO84trucker 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I live in Durango. That crash site is about a mile south of highway 160 near milepost 98 between Durango & Bayfield. Nothing much in that particular area besides ranches & natural gas leases.

  • @acp45blue
    @acp45blue 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great job on this video. Your explanations are clear and helpful.

  • @lelandthomosoniii4743
    @lelandthomosoniii4743 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is a good subscription cuz it's just once a week on Saturday...
    Nooo
    Over Load!!!

  • @kimonass
    @kimonass 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    *video starts*
    Me, having just boarded a plane:
    👁👄👁

    • @calci2679
      @calci2679 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      oh noooooooo (have a safe flight!)

    • @kimonass
      @kimonass 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@calci2679 thank you! ✨️ it was great haha

  • @megyskermike
    @megyskermike 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great coverage of this accident, as always 👍

  • @Rochi47
    @Rochi47 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I know how terrible it is to have a nasty cough, I hope you get well soon.♥️

    • @bixmcgoo5355
      @bixmcgoo5355 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      it almost made his voice sound a bit more feminine, he should be happy that it added to his delusion

    • @dwelty3327
      @dwelty3327 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@bixmcgoo5355 why are you so obsessed w misgendering her... 😥 I've seen you on a couple comments now and cmon man she's just living her life why can't you do the same

    • @bixmcgoo5355
      @bixmcgoo5355 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@dwelty3327 nah bro i'm just stating that a male is a male that's all

    • @EvanAviator
      @EvanAviator 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@bixmcgoo5355 bro is obsessed with disrespecting trans people

    • @bixmcgoo5355
      @bixmcgoo5355 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@EvanAviator lmao they disrespect everyone by expecting people to ignore the evidence of their eyes and ears. A man is a man, I'm not pretending otherwise.

  • @wyomingadventures
    @wyomingadventures 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I knew of this Air carrier before the incident. In Wyoming we don't have many Air Carriers unfortunately because of our small population. One of my friends flew with this carrier many times. Mostly from Casper to Denver. Stapleton Airport was notorious for air turbulence. He hated Stapleton Airport and many stories about bad flights. Now I'm wondering if he ever flew with that crew. Yikes that's a scary thought. I remember when Trans Colorado went bankrupt.

  • @kiritsuguemiya4883
    @kiritsuguemiya4883 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love your channel

  • @LemonLadyRecords
    @LemonLadyRecords 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I lived in the Denver/Boulder area in the entire 70s, and I never, ever flew, what at the time was known as "Rocky Mtn Scareways". Similar kind of deal as this one. The weather, elevations, and terrain were just too scary (plus I lost some family in a Colorado GA crash (icing)). There was also a huge cocaine problem in that area, esp Boulder, which I was told got even worse after I left, enduring into the 80s. It was in all of the "glamour" or money businesses of the time, and so probably in aviation, too. Although the pilots who partied before flying were probably very rare, most having better judgment. There's some legendary aviation weirdness and mysteries in the mountains around Boulder in the 70s and early 80s, though. Drug flights, mostly, or other nonsense, so they went unreported.

  • @jacekatalakis8316
    @jacekatalakis8316 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    ASN's database of drunk/high pilots is fascinating reading and, scaily, there's way more incidents than you'd expect.
    I mean, a United crew were stopped in Scotland or smelling of alcohol, so thankfully they didn't go transatlantic with drunk pilots

    • @beenaplumber8379
      @beenaplumber8379 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      In 1992-93 I worked for the clinic that did Northwest Airlines (NWA) drug testing. My job was to report all the results to NWA. The biggest problem they had was their refusal to stop including poppy seed bagels, muffins, and dressings in their crew meals. That put detectable amounts of morphine in their blood, but nowhere near enough to affect performance. But when the lab found detectable morphine, we obviously had to follow up. You can imagine how upset the pilots were when that happened! I always reported it as negative to NWA, but what a nightmare for the pilots and other personnel we tested.
      NWA had a few high-profile cases of drunken crews unable to find the airport, that sort of thing. They also had a popular H.I.M.S. program. (I can never remember what that stands for.) That's a program for pilots with a problem. Their participation is confidential, and they got lots of support to stay sober. They were also tested more frequently. Those programs exist (I think) at all the major carriers now, so they must be helping. Of all the results I reported to NWA, not one of their HIMS pilots was ever positive.

  • @martinstallard2742
    @martinstallard2742 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Another great video, also any chance you could cover the Lockerbie disaster

  • @kevinbarry71
    @kevinbarry71 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Another example, where, after a disaster, we implemented standards that really should have been in force before the crash. Another example is the Colgan crash in Buffalo in 2008. After that one commercial pilots had to have 1500 hours of flight time No matter which seat they occupied. interestingly, Europe doesn't require anything like that number of hours to be a commercial pilot

  • @mausm7534
    @mausm7534 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I saw the title of the video, I knew this going in, and I still cursed out loud when you said it in the video.

  • @Ponch_ITK
    @Ponch_ITK 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    If you're a bit under the weather fam take it easy
    Proficiency is key you're not feeling well definitely take a few days off
    Another great vid fam

  • @patrickunderwood5662
    @patrickunderwood5662 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The “Texas Death Tube” and it has been called worse. Personally I think it’s a beautiful plane. But on a flight from Tyler, TX to Austin on of these in the early 1990s, I knew I was about to die. The (seemingly teenaged) pilots discussed how we need to “get the hell out of here” in front of an approaching thunderstorm. I sat in the front left-hand passenger seat because I was a total airplane nerd, and wanted to watch the pilots. ((All the subsequent boarders had to squeeze past my knees.) The crew back-taxied scarily fast and off we went, right into the teeth of a Texas thunderstorm. The only time I seriously believed I would toss my cookies during a flight. After the last blast of turbulence (the moment I accepted death), the two young pilots looked at each other like “holy shit, we lived.” I’ll never forget it. Smooth flying the rest of the way to Austin. I could watch the approach and landing through the pilots’ windscreen. Many years later, I drove past Key Lime Air Metroliners on my way to the flight school at Centennial Airport, KAPA, Englewood CO, on a daily basis. Lovely airplanes. A few years ago, a Key Lime Metroliner survived a midair in the approach to the parallel runways at KAPA-a situation my instructors had drilled into me: don’t overshoot base into the parallel! Well, somebody did, not for the first time at that airport.

  • @skunkrat01
    @skunkrat01 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Hey Chloe, I have a trans niece whose name is also Chloe so just wanted to give you an extra tight hug and say you rock

  • @dennischallinor8497
    @dennischallinor8497 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Periodic and random testing is what is needed. The technology exists that flight crew could be breathalyzed and blood tested (like a diabetic) to reveal substances in the systems of people who are about to become responsible for human life. Enough have been caught by now that this should be a real concern to any aviation carrier!!!

  • @kellyweingart3692
    @kellyweingart3692 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    get well soon Chloe

  • @pennywaltz4601
    @pennywaltz4601 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Great disaster breakdown of that flight! Think you could do Lapa flight 3142? You'll be shock by the pilots behavior and how they react when things go wrong!

    • @robertmcghintheorca49
      @robertmcghintheorca49 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That should be a double feature with Delta Flight 1141. The similarities are so great that it's creepy. In fact, LAPA 3142 crashed 11 years to the very day of Delta 1141.

  • @cjc2010
    @cjc2010 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Cocaine? That's... so 80's.

  • @nigelbond4056
    @nigelbond4056 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    An absolutely incredible situation. As you say, we put our lives in the hands of those we expect to be professional, well trained and sober. There is simply no excuse for a pilot to blatantly gamble with the lives of their passengers.

  • @missybecka4701
    @missybecka4701 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I watched the same story on Smithsonian channel today.Still can't get over the pilot was using along with playing hanky panky with some chick all night thought it would be alright to fly a plane with passenger's lives in his hands. I think it's horrible what the passenger's family is having to go through. I also feel bad for pilot's family because now their name has been tarnished for something they had nothing to do with.

  • @hubblr
    @hubblr ปีที่แล้ว

    quick question! what platform do you use to make these flight scenes?

  • @scofab
    @scofab 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks again, and feel better soon.

  • @mauricedavis2160
    @mauricedavis2160 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Take care of yourself, we will be here when you recover!!!🙏👍🏥

  • @esteemedmortal5917
    @esteemedmortal5917 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ugh, I’m dealing with side effects from my Covid booster. Watched this to distract me until the Tylenol kicks in. Thanks and hope you also feel better soon!

    • @brianchan8
      @brianchan8 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Welcome to the 7g government mind control club

  • @BillyAlabama
    @BillyAlabama 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What a terrific video. It’s pathetic that the captain had such a disdain for others in every way. Criminal. Criminal.

  • @birgenair301
    @birgenair301 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just love your videos, also a sugestion would be the Ariana Afghan airlines crash in 1998

  • @LeolaGlamour
    @LeolaGlamour 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It’s a miracle anyone survived that.

    • @nickyblue4866
      @nickyblue4866 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Account NumberEight no it's called a luracle

  • @smoothmicra
    @smoothmicra 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yes, very good, never came across this one before. Sometimes there is a question mark about narcotics influencing a pilot in a crash, this is one of those rare occasions where narcotics can be identified as the root cause.
    Unprofessional people can con their way into professional positions. Unfortunate truth.
    At least I can research and question my doctor/dentist/lawyer, you don't get that opportunity with your pilot...🤔

  • @frozenuruguayball6436
    @frozenuruguayball6436 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Amazing video Chloe
    A pilot should never fly under the influence also if your feeling good feel free to save your vids until you get better also can you cover twa 800 not the 747 one there one in 1964 way before the one we all know

  • @senabecool7232
    @senabecool7232 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wasn't Crossair 498 somewhat the same
    Btw will you do Crossair 498

    • @DisasterBreakdown
      @DisasterBreakdown  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes I will! I'm not sure when exactly that video will get made but its on my list!

  • @noneofyourbizness
    @noneofyourbizness 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    good review.
    the fact that pilot's blood was not tested for drug & alcohol presence as soon as practicable after a crash is not a good sign. smacks of an over protective industry...indicative of a culture which itself will invite some members to take risks at some point, safe in the knowledge that they are protected from their risky behaviors even being discovered, let alone facing any form of sanction for them !
    It appears to be a common policy these days for police to do just that whenever attending any vehicle accident, fatal or not, so, hopefully a policy dealing with pilots in related circumstances has since been enacted.

  • @Zelinkokitsune
    @Zelinkokitsune 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yea that twist was expected especially with the title and the year and that wasn't a shock...

  • @jaytowne8016
    @jaytowne8016 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    In the pilot job market of 1988 pilots for a regional as old as this crew was should trigger the thought " what is wrong with these pilots that they are still at a regional?" In 1988 the major airlines had been hiring at full tilt for almost 4 years. Pilots as old and high time as these were should have "graduated" above the regionals, most likely ALL THE MAJOR airlines had turned these pilots down for hiring.They had repeatedly fail the cut. The selection process at every real airline had weeded them out.

    • @FranktheDachshund
      @FranktheDachshund 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Something to consider when flying a budget airline.

  • @BassGirlSusan1961
    @BassGirlSusan1961 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    As frail as the human body is, I still marvel at accidents such as this where some passengers survive. I'm also wondering whether given the weather conditions/visibility, should this flight have proceeded at all. LOTS of holes in the Swiss cheese lining up.

    • @andrewtaylor940
      @andrewtaylor940 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It’s actually pretty simple in most cases. The shallower the angle that the plane comes in contact with the ground, the more survivable a crash is. What kills you is the sudden stop. Where all of the kinetic energy being carried by the vehicle, be it a car or a plane, is suddenly transferred to the occupant. When a plane is sliding along the ground, coming in horizontally, much of that energy is getting bled off without being transferred to those inside. Similarly the most spectacular looking car crashes, such as rollovers, are much more survivable than a direct head on impact with a solid object. Assuming you don’t get thrown from the vehicle. To put it more simply, it’s not the fall that kills you. It’s the impact with the ground.

  • @iHusk
    @iHusk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Lowkey love that livery.

  • @Canucklover97
    @Canucklover97 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    dont know if u take video requests but if u havent done buddy hollys crash could u do it plz

    • @DisasterBreakdown
      @DisasterBreakdown  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'll add it to my list and I'll do some digging/reading on it later today

    • @Canucklover97
      @Canucklover97 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@DisasterBreakdown thx its intrestin

  • @drake47367
    @drake47367 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Damn, I live near Durango and didn't know this happened!

  • @ArtCurator2020
    @ArtCurator2020 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In the 1980's a bunch of these "regional airlines" appeared that carried the brand of a major carrier but were in reality just subcontractors. Of course, this saved money for the major carriers. Many of these subcontractors ran on such a "shoe string budget" that they hired pilots no one else would take. Some crew members got paid so poorly that a number would chip in to share an apartment in a town which was major destination point because they couldn't even afford to stay in a hotel on overnight assignments. It was also during this time that the number of school trained pilots vs military trained pilots started to change. In 1980. about 80% of airline pilots were former military pilots, but by 2000, that went down to about 20%. Airlines started using more school trained pilots because they were willing to work for less money. However, they weren't as competent as those trained by Uncle Sam. This situation also accounted for some needless accidents too.
    It''s the same old story. We even know it by Heart.
    "Capitalists value financial profit over human lives."

    • @ArtCurator2020
      @ArtCurator2020 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      There is absolutely NOTHING Wrong with your voice in this video. I was even impressed by your meticulous diction and the poetic style of your narrative.
      If you had a Mommy who didn't Love you Enough, then Just Get Over It
      because you're a finer person than you apparently think you are !!!

  • @reyesjuanjose94
    @reyesjuanjose94 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    can you do a video about taca fight 390

  • @mikemoreno4469
    @mikemoreno4469 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hope you feel better soon.

  • @arsewipe22424
    @arsewipe22424 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Must have gotten their pilot certificates from a cereal box!😆😆

  • @Powerranger-le4up
    @Powerranger-le4up 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I saw the Air Crash Investigation of that crash and actually said the same thing as the title when I learned the pilot had used Cocaine. I had said, “He did what?”

  • @57Jimmy
    @57Jimmy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    ‘Snakes on a Plane’
    Those Swearingren Metroliners were designed to transport snakes…and flown by snakes!
    The only way to move through them one would have to belly crawl through that culvert called a cabin!😂

  • @westheriault3797
    @westheriault3797 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Woo new video

  • @applesthecat
    @applesthecat 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Whoever has the Patreon name “ground beef warning system” I hope you know that you’re my hero

  • @scoobydo446
    @scoobydo446 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Straight awAy I noticed your voice is different, I was wondering if it is you , hope you stay well now

  • @m.streicher8286
    @m.streicher8286 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I find it ironic that the presence of cocaine and the timely absence of it both contributed to this accident

  • @Cheka__
    @Cheka__ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This accident was the inspiration for the movie 'Flight'.

    • @Dayle5280
      @Dayle5280 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Wikipedia says otherwise: "The film is loosely inspired by the plane crash of Alaska Airlines Flight 261"

  • @lonemaus562
    @lonemaus562 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I honesty think the the drugs had nothing to do with the crash 🤷‍♂️ some people can just tolerate them without it affecting them. It was the lack of sleep

  • @debbieannsmith8962
    @debbieannsmith8962 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh wow, that's crazy.

  • @chrisj1475
    @chrisj1475 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It was a shame that there was no Flight Data Recorders available. That's half of the video gone. Oh well. It's still a short and sweet video.

  • @tristanneal9552
    @tristanneal9552 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I'm not gonna lie, I'd assumed the video title was hyperbole. I should have known better... this is a crazy story

  • @TheresOnly1Stef
    @TheresOnly1Stef 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Man what the hell, smh! Craziness!

  • @leahdrook5161
    @leahdrook5161 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Could you do a disaster breakdown on flight N3794N

  • @uzaiyaro
    @uzaiyaro 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I can understand a beer or two the with dinner the night before, or even a very modest amount of pot (in all fairness, it can stay in your system up to a month after you’ve last taken it, but by then the effects are long gone), but I think I’ll skip flying with a cokehead.

    • @grantcanty7294
      @grantcanty7294 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      pretty sure the effects of coke wear off way before the effects of weed. coke is around a 15-30 minute high from what i understand vs a few hours for weed

  • @jubeldoktor
    @jubeldoktor ปีที่แล้ว

    I never understood the stance of „Well, there was an accident, now also planes above x passengers must be fitted with CVR and FDR“ and not simply demanding that every commercial plane (in a broader sense) must be equipped. And I guess the same mystery applies to transponders.

  • @b.t.356
    @b.t.356 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Pilot: *does nose candy right before flying*
    Me: EXCUSE ME WHAT THE FALAFEL AND PITA BREAD WEDGES

  • @bor3domboy686
    @bor3domboy686 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I said it before and I’ll say it again.
    This sums up the flight pretty well.
    FO: Captain what are you doing.
    C: crack.
    FO:What the f-*crash*

  • @AshKetchum442
    @AshKetchum442 ปีที่แล้ว

    that was my sister’s birthday!

  • @Daveyboy4
    @Daveyboy4 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fair child make the thunderbolt 2 I didn't know they make commercial planes.

    • @garymiller5624
      @garymiller5624 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Silly, Republic made the Thunderbolt and the plane that crashed was a Swearingin Metroliner.

  • @argeltuazon5059
    @argeltuazon5059 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Watching your videos concluded that 80s has a lot of aviation disaster.

  • @EngrPalits
    @EngrPalits 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Aeroflot Flight 6502 is another sample but worst imagine taking your safety on 2 pilots one betting "he can land the plane blindfolded"

  • @dh510
    @dh510 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    8:45
    Soo..
    The problem wasn't that the pilot had taken cocaine, but that he hasn't taken enough of it...

  • @boboutelama5748
    @boboutelama5748 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes, when I'm failling my exams, I take cokaine so I fly better... in my head.
    What a swiss thing to do.

  • @jupekz6147
    @jupekz6147 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Common Disaster Breakdown W

  • @23hublock1
    @23hublock1 ปีที่แล้ว

    The airport is built within a triangle of geographical death.

  • @jamesnotfound
    @jamesnotfound 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When I first saw the title, I assumed it was something to do with alcohol but I would’ve never guessed nose candy. Wow.

    • @DisasterBreakdown
      @DisasterBreakdown  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      There have been a number of incidents involving alcohol. I'll be sure to get round to them someday

  • @rabbitwolf6521
    @rabbitwolf6521 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It's impossible to sympathise with someone who does cocaine KNOWING they will be in charge of so many lives. Pretty disgusting for the families who lost loved ones...

    • @johnengland8619
      @johnengland8619 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      One was hopped on coke and on was drinking it and drunk

  • @waffles6548smile
    @waffles6548smile 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wow ! 😮

  • @brendadion7868
    @brendadion7868 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    No CVR or FDR?!? That's criminal... like these pilots!!

  • @ericacorbin8322
    @ericacorbin8322 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Electrochemistry [Medium: Success]
    Sounds like this was a captain who knew how to party.

  • @gaiaiulia
    @gaiaiulia 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    As Frank Zappa said: "don't eat the yellow snow", and definitely not when you're a pilot!