10 Worst Mistakes Beginners Do In Miniature Painting
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 22 พ.ค. 2024
- In this video we are going over 10 mistakes beginning miniature painters do when they are trying to improve in their hobby. Whether you are painting Warhammer miniatures or you do scale models, all of these can be considered!
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Timestamps:
00:00 Mistake 1
0:53 Mistake 2
1:56 Mistake 3
3:24 Mistake 4
4:50 Miniature from thumbnail
5:33 Mistake 5
6:39 Mistake 6
7:18 Mistake 7
7:53 Mistake 8
8:43 Mistake 9
9:41 Mistake 10
10:41 KNOWLEDGE - แนวปฏิบัติและการใช้ชีวิต
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How come this comment has more likes than the video itself? Show the guy some love people!
Mother of god, the video begins with the topic immediately, this is amazing!!!!
Ends the moment he's done teaching too haha
I agree, this is the best thing ever
Got me off guard as well 😂
That's why Zumikito is the best
Read this comment before starting the video, still was shocked...
The video starts with "Number 1".... No cheesy intro needlessly reiterating the title of the video. It took me by surprise and I love it!
Thanks for the shout out mate, love your work 😘
Likewise! ❤️
OMG you are so right. I've only recently started actually painting after loading up and up and up on (really good!) tutorial videos, always certain that I'd need the next one and then the next and the next to 'get it right' to the point that I never started at all. I'm still pretty bad but 'pretty bad' is a lot more accomplished than 'never started'. So glad to be bad. Bad gets better. Not starting never goes anywhere.
The last one is huge for me. I think I spend more time watching mini painting tutorials than actually painting 🤣🤣 I think watching amazing painters do amazing techniques intimidates me from starting the learning process
I learned the lesson about batch painting from just constant doing large amounts of squads.
Now I'll do a character or 2 between like every couple of units and it has serve me well.
Even just doing a pallet cleanser like a vehicle or monster is good.
I wish we had TH-cam tutorials back in the 90's when I starting. While I enjoyed my days of just base coats, ink and dry brushing nothing I did really got better at best I just got neater and I ended up jumping out the hobby around 2001. I got back into it during Covid and already after a hand full of videos and regular painting sessions I'm miles ahead of my young self.
Aw, I love metals. Prefer it to plastic for the most part. Biggest issue for me with metals is that they really need good varnishing as they are far more prone to chipping or scratching, especially on edges
And there's some retro minis i can only get in metal. I wanted the original space marine terminators from my youth, ebayed them. 20 years old and in surprisingly nice condition, they will get all the attention as I want them as the centerpiece of my army. As a rule though, I have to agree that metal is bad.
The trick is to use a metal primer on them. Or a metal primer prep. Mr metal r, or metal prep 4k by vms. You can find both on eBay. Also those bad boys on your metal minis, give it 12-24 hours to set/cure ( it should feel almost tacky), and then apply your favorite primer (I like Vallejo Mecha primer, it's great). Allow THAT to sit for 12-24 hours at room temperature (70-85°f) and then get painting. I've dropped them. on concrete (once) and not had a chip, and had lots of handling and not had problems. If you're super worried, you can give them a quick bath in white vinegar (mild acid will slightly etch the metal) give her a scrub, and then start your priming.
I've found the extra step to be well worth it, as long as giving the primer ample time to cure before I fuck with it. I know it will continue to cure even with paint on it, but it's not hard to set these boys aside and let them get completely finished.
This is why Dark Angels was great as a returning wargamer.
Learning how to paint solid block colour with Greenwing. Learning how to paint black effectively with Ravenwing. Learning how to paint white/bone with Deathwing.
Going for something bright and colourful next with Aeldari.
i have just started the hobby, your videos have helped alot, thankyou mate
I have been thoroughly enjoying your videos man, very solid presentation and great information too. As to metal minis and batch painting I fully agree with you on both.
This is everything I needed to hear. I found out I was depending on wash and contrast paints so much that my painting projects look like shite. So I been learning other techniques, from folks like you. So I appreciate it.
I'm so glad I have a friend who's been painting for years to come over and show me some of these techniques in person. Can't believe how much I've learned in so little time
Zumikito. Straight to the point, no fluff.
Awesome.
Love your videos. Funny thing about the variation in inspiration or technique advancement. I have 7 different miniature painters I follow on TH-cam (one being you) that all have different styles for the exact reason your mentioned - stylistic variety. Always great to see varying approaches to similar results.
Loving your longer content dude as always great vid 👌
Jumping right into it, love this format!
4:40 im so glad somebody else thinks that too. Not every mini needs a million tiny details. And when everybody looks like a special character, nobody looks like a special character!
I deliberately assemble my minis with a minimum. The odd purity seal, a few extra bits here and there but thats it.
I'll even dremel off some unnecessary junk on characters, I don't like them to look cluttered.
@@zakcl00 not a bad idea. Might start doing that
Great video, lots of excellent suggestions! Thank you!
Great video. Luckily, I don't suffer from any of these mistakes anymore. Been painting for 7 years and I used to stop doing new techniques until I saw your videos.
I love your glow effects videos and I used the technique for the first time weeks ago. I was so happy with the results. I painted two GW reactors and the glow effects made the terrain much better.
I saved on my desktop your other 5 minutes videos and I will use those techniques on special characters.
Thanks for the videos and keep up the great work!
Have been in the hobby for 3 years, and you still break down some issues I have, especially point n°10...
And there's been lots of video lately, hope you've found a good dynamic and not ruining yourself.
Cheers !
This is such a good video, the batch painting one really made me enjoy painting more. Since I collect Orks and I needed a lot more boys, started doing them in batches of ten and it was so souldraining. Dropping to 5 didn't actually my progress rate that much slower, but it made it more enjoyable. Hell, started even paying attention to some details on them
This is incredibly helpful. Thank you
I just came across your channel today. Awesome content and great presentation. And cool beard, too! Keep it up.
Amazing video really great tips!!
Holy crap dude! Those paint jobs are incredible!
Good video! I am always trying different techniques in my hobby journey and although I don't always stick with the same methods, I appreciate the different approaches that people take in painting for the tabletop. I own a ton of paints but I almost always mix up my own hues from the basecoats for a smoother gradient to the highlight. I am interested in picking up the Kimera base set when I can find it shipped for around 100 bucks. Thanks again for the great content!
best tutorials i have seen so far. thanks for that. :)
I’m glad myself as a beginner have already been doing what you mentioned in this video.
I started off small with the basic three Ultramarines in that beginner box set. But looking at the box set. I noticed there was no depth or really no realism look to them. They had like four paints used for them.
So I went on the internet and looked at pictures of space marines mainly the video game “Space Marine” and based every detail off of how they look in the video game. I painted the backpack engines an actual silver, I painted inside the backpack where most people would leave it blue I painted the wires black and the buttons silver. I painted the eyes red with a gloss over the top to make it seem like a glass effect. I put more detail into my first three then Games Worshop is saying is good enough.
I took this to another step after painting a few sisters models. I painted a Palatine I put 8 hours into. I painted Celestine which I probably put a good 20 hours into with all the different colors and washes.
I plan on taking it even further with this new model that came out for Aledari, Yvarne. I want to try out Contrast painting it completely. Just to see what it looks like.
I also plan on doing a batch painting here in the coming months with a Sisters of Battle army. But I will most likely do the same paint on every single model. So once I’m done with the blacks, I’ll move onto the reds or golds or whatever.
Try out pin-washing. You use paint or oil heavily watered down, and a (gloss?Cant remember) varnish over a in progress mini just touching in the reassess and slowing it to slide into the detail by itself. I love using this when speed painting because I tend to do very flat schemes for color.
Wise words. Especially on batch painting (I can never paint more than 3 minis at a time) and deliberate practice.
The interesting thing is that I am now happy with the results I am getting but want to paint faster. So for example I research for ways to use the airbrush more and then practice. At the start I am even slower, but soon I am faster and I also learn something new and maybe even improve my end result.
This should be mandatory viewing for anyone taking up the journey of mini painting!
That explosion effect on your quicksilver mini was AMAZING.
Would you, or have you done a vid on that?
That kind of burning object with that warm fiery glow showing through dark smoke.
You are the best painting content creator hands down!
Deliberate practice is a super important concept. Did you read "Talent Is Overrated"? I kind of assume you did since the whole book is about that idea. I'd love to see a video exploring that idea as it relates to mini painting more.
Even as a non-beginner (started painting miniatures ~1986) I found this video instructive. Thanks!
Always a treat when one of your uploads pop up to watch. And while I agree with this whole list (like my opinion matters), I absolutely loved your thought on metal miniatures. When I started out in the hobby, that was all there was- period. So I had gotten into the mindset of them being superior to the plastic guys, once those started showing up. It's not like they were any cheaper, so why would you opt for the inferior choice, right? Fast-forward to YEARS later, and after getting back into the hobby, there really wasn't the metal option, at all- unless I wanted to spend a fortune on the secondary market (of course other companies offered them, but you know what I mean...). So, plastic it is, then, and I just had to deal with it. Finding an old box of unpainted shame from my early days, I was able to relive the "glory" of working with some of my original metal minis, and I for one can tell you that those things can go straight to hell. Working with plastic is in every way, shape and form FAR superior to fooling around with pewter, or whatever else those things were manufactured from.
Oh, and for what it's worth, I fall firmly in the last segment's camp, though the silver lining there is viewership keeps you guys making videos, and I have an almost infinite amount of resources to pull from. Starting to love these videos almost as much as your tutorials. Enjoy the rest of your week.
iam an artist in the traditional sense and point 2 hits hard! Limited colour palletes challenge us in different ways
Number 3: I want to try highlighting with different colors. Thanks!
Number 5: I'd love to use more techniques like glazing but I haven't had the time to practice that. So I use drybrushing and washes. But I have been using edge highlights more. I really like doing that.
I also do minis for D&D not warhammer. I know people take great pride in painting their warhammer minis.
Holy cow you hit the advice running; full props mate for this awesome video!
Though I think there's a interesting thing about colour schemes; armies absolutely can look different. I think it would be awesome to see some white armoured black templar in the same way that Deathtroopers and Royal Guard in star wars are cool slice of pie in an otherwise uniform army. As long as the colour change means something (either eliteness, a designation of function, tribes, religion or even from an armies lack of conformity e.t.c.) then it's plausible that pretty much any army can shake up it's colour scheme for some of the units.
For example; I'm thinking custodies; with tacticool assassin Sisters of Silence, along with similarly grim Custodian Guard that would often accompany them. Contrasted sharply with splendidly dressed Captains and red armoured elites Elites that seek the fiercest of the fighting once the enemy is found, only dwarfed by the ivory clad dreadnorts who's ceramic plate allow their decoration to stand proud; after all it isn't practical to waste time gold plating the ceramic panels in this age of re-conquest.. These aren't an army in the traditional sense; but a group of individuals on a mission, each bearing signs of prior duties and journies that have united for a mission of massive importance.
Kinda is a good lesson for army painting in general. find reasons to do things differently sometimes isn't a bad thing as long as you keep it simple.
This is part of the reason I love painting T'au, with the commanders and elite warriors you can invert the colour scheme to change things up. Prevents some of the monotony of batch painting, which sadly we all must do if we want to get an army done within a decade. If there is consistency and a pattern to the colour change, it can really draw attention to your centrepiece models and add some much-needed variety into an army :)
Just wanted to let you know I totally stole your colour scheme of your cream and pink space marines and used it in a painting competition in a local hobby shop and came second. Thank you very much good sir 😊
Had a backfire effect moment to “metals are dogshit”, but then realised that’s coming from an Aeldari collector who can only usually find the aspects/designs she wants in metal or [shudders] finecast. Lesser of two evils in that instance, and I make it work how I can.
On the flipside of that, a really nice thing about collecting and playing as Biel-Tan specifically (besides their amusing lore) is that their theme automatically requires you to keep an open mind to different colouring schemes and techniques - sure we have the white/green/red, but the different squads all have their own thing going on and it’s nice to lean into that instead of trying to make everyone conform to one scheme or design ethos
Definitely guilt of Mistake 6. After watching lots of professional painting videos, I was overly watering down my paints. This is fine if you are painting 100's (if not 1000's) of layers but leads to an incredibly 'washed out' look otherwise (something rectified by painting multiple coats). I saw a Ninjon video and it suggested watering down basecoats by only a tiny amount (2:1 paint to water, depending on the paint).
Juan Hidalgo does some good work though. People like you and him inspire me. Good info with humor.
Number 7 get a desk lamp or 2, there pretty cheap on Amazon and I have to say they really helped with my painting 🎨
Very entertaining and informative, as always, thanks. The skill level shown is at least as impressive as the mighty beard :)
Im a complete beginner to painting minis so I try to squeeze a few tutorials between painting sessions. Im still bad at it but thanks to the tutorials I see my mistakes and I can correct them the next time.
i got the cadian box set a year ago and dived right in to blast them off so i could get to gaming. i did it all in a marathon and it started very enjoyable but then it broke my back, now i cant be arsed even looking at a paint pot, i get my wife to do it and have no intention of ever painting another model
I feel like i've gotten a good flow going for my mini painting. I'm only one year in, and on a shoestring budget so i don't have a ton to paint, but i have the recruit and elite editions from warhammer so i got a nice stack of minis. So i have space marines and necrons to work with. Right away, before even buying a box i was thinking of a theme for my armies. I settled on the main theme for the marines to be black, gold trim, and red lighting/cloth. And metalics for the necrons. I have kind of a caste system going. Normal necron warriors are painted mainly bronze and iron, then stronger ones like skorpeck are iron and silver maybe a little gold and then things like overlords are full body iron or silver with lots of gold trimming or silver/bronze where it fits. The marines are the only ones i really added more to. Like a nice dark brown with rinox hide for the pouches, silver for the belts and weapons, iron for detailing on the backpacks, little stuff like that to help it all pop out. And i can really tell a difference. Looking at my first few minis of marines where i stuck to the black gold and red, they just don't have as much detail as the ones where i added more bits of silver or brown along with some iron tints to stuff. There is a fine line between too many paints and not enough paints for a mini.
Hey guys. Just on the tip about hobby lamps, I use a camping head torch. It works really well and it's relatively cheap
Too many paints is very true - when I started I bought a mega set (because it was cheaper) but was overwhelmed with colour choice / theory I didn’t understand yet. I put 80% of the colours in a drawer and only very slowly (over years) got them out once I understood how to use them / where they sat relative to others.
eyy haven't been this early before, looking forward to learning something new
7:06 I bet that one was fun to paint.
Thanks for all your videos, they have been so helpful. I know its gonna take years of practice but I find all my minatures I'm painting just seem kinda flat or tiny and for lack of better words looks dirty after I finish painting them and using washes sparingly. I'm painting the monster hunter board game and I'm using army painter paints at the moment. But probably will switch soon. I don't know what I'm asking for here, just don't know what to do. I think I just need to get better at highlights and stuff but the minis seem so tiny and have such little details I find it almost impossible to even try to apply new techniques. Thanks for reading my rant and keep up the videos they mean so much to a newbie.
Lots of good advice here. Great shout out to Vincie V!
Interesting seeing how other people hold there brush and how they paint. With what way they tackle it.
Re: batch painting - I've got a quartet of glaivewraith stalkers. I painted one to really high quality, now I'm stuck trying to paint the rest to the same quality lol.
11: Loading up on tutorials and tip videos before painting. You need to paint a few minis between each tutorial to absorb the information. By watching a bunch of tutorials in a row you prevent yourself from leaning as much from each and it's easy to get discouraged by all the information.
I have to disagree with not buying plastic toy soldiers. When I’m working with unfamiliar paint or a new blending technique, I always feel more comfortable doing a trial run on a soldier before trying it on an expensive mini.
Amazing Video thanks for the tips! By the way what is the mini at the 7:00 please? Would make a perfect herald of slaanesh
Is that Kingdom Death pinup nightmare ram armor?
Can you do some painting videos for shieldwolf miniatures?
I’m trying to switch to battle tech alpha strike purely because I can paint them all differently. Can you do or do you have a video on keeping paints under control in terms of moisture? Mine start ok but they begin to “lock up” after a while even on wet paper towels, and I can’t get them to behave for freehand at all.
I got dead walkers so I got to experiment with alot of different style
haha yeah batch painting was my biggest mistake. It wasn't until I was painting something by itself that I realized my mistake. Changing colours is really not as big a time consumer as you'd think. airbrushing is something I still like to do in batches though.
I agree with all of them except the last one, and to prove you wrong I will go and watch all your videos for times.
Seriously, great list. All the things here are great advice for new and old painters. Especially that last one. I have a limited set of skills, basically base coats, washes, and dry brushing. That's all I know. My army, made of camo robots, fits perfect, so now I can focus on tiny details like eyes. After they're all tabletop ready, I'm going to learn edge highlights to add metallics sleeping through cracks in their paint. Then I've got a new Reaper set specifically going through glazing and layering to focus on those. And I am so hyped to try these things, and each one I've picked is because I'm so excited for them specifically. I get super frustrated with mistakes, and I keep getting distracted, but every time I do get time to paint, I just go nonstop for a few hours no matter what it is.
As a US Army Veteran, Uniformity is essential in the military.
A war based combat games shouldn't be the exception to the rule. In regards to your point of improving skill and imagination yes your correct as everyone should continuously be pushing the threshold of their talent.
I love your vids, love the content. You have a wonderful mind for creation.
Dobrý den, chtěl bych se zeptat ohledně lampy jjak maximalne široky stůl je potřeba? Bohužel mam desku 10cm širokou, tak nevím zda bych ji uchytil. A druhý dotaz Neafi XL má i nový model nevíte zda v nich je rozdíl. Děkuji za odpověd a za super videa.
I know this is an older video, but I think there is one thing you could add, and that is to keep your hobby space organized and tidy. I am in the process of doing so & it's getting me excited about things again. I had let it get so bad that it was hanging over me. It was depressing to look at and a dust magnet. Anyways, I just thought I'd put that out there.
So before I get to the end of the video and forget.
One tip I use to pick a colour scheme for an army is paint it on a flat sheet of cardboard it's the equivalent of colour matching to paint a room you can see if the colours you picked work together without having to clean it off the model if you don't like it.
And speaking of cleaning always wash your models first, you don't know what molded release substance they used in the casting or if they cleaned it of (or if they suck at cleaning it off) I consider washing up liquid and multiple toothbrush to be an essential part of a painters kit for both cleaning and applying paint (it can be really tricky to fake mud splatter but a old toothbrush is great at fine splatter with your fingernail or popsicle stick) it sucks to see your paint start flaking the miniature because it wasn't cleaned before hand.
I can 100% agree on batch painting. I paint a unit and then...a single character! even it he takes me a week! or a day i wont touch another unit until i do the character to stretch my painting muscles. If the units was painted with contrast paints, switch styles and do something different.
Love your content: I have a question - I watched your video on damage and chipping, but I'm after a good way to paint scorch marks, in this case on my space marine drop pods.
I've looked at space capsules for reference, but don't know where to start.
Hey hey, thank you! Unfortunately I have no idea, but I would certainly look at pics of someone else doing it
@@Zumikito No worries, if you come up with something, I'll see it anyway. Thanks!
I've found loads of benefits of using a magnifying glass thing.
Gotta say the 2 tips I didn't head enough were good lighting and buying too many minis at once. I'm still having fun, but I can't see shit!
,,Never trying something new”
Me watching the video mere hours after painting my first mini ever:
,,Ha, knew it, I’m a failure”
I was really hoping to see something mentioned about posture/ergonomics. As a beginner, I had no idea how much I was crunching up my shoulders or hunching over the mini to focus on tiny details. Then I would wonder why everything hurts the next day. Can't practice if you can't freakin' move
This is true, but hunching over is not a mistake necesarily. If it's at the point that your back hurts, than you have to take more breaks and exercise that back
@@Zumikito True! Thanks again for the video, it was very informative!
@@Zumikito yes, exactly, paint while doing sit ups
@@Zumikito speaking from my own experience, surgeons advice, doctors advice, and physios advice, I can confirm that hunching over is definitely bad for your back. Good posture and a good chair with a good setup is a must. Don’t give this advice again. It’s completely wrong dude
Question what if I was to paint just space marines but ultramarines then imperial fists then templars
hell yah! Completely agree PUCK metal minis!!! (infinity makes OK metal though)
is there a difference between a desk lamp and a hobby lamp?
2:18 - I am very new to mini painting. I want to paint my Dark Elves in this same scheme but cant figure out how to edge highlight like this. Can anyone tell me how to do it?
Been doing this casually for a few years, let's see how I do.
1 - that's why I do Eldar - different colours to play with, I like bright colours rather than muted.
2 - oops
3 - am OK here
4 - ad?
5 ok here though can learn more
6- ...think I'm OK here...
7 am OK here
8 I agree but there are times it's necessary, break it up with a character. I tend to do in 10s
9 still learning, warhammer + have some advanced tutorials BTW
10 have a few armies started for this reason. My oldest models are a long way behind in terms of results compared to newer ones.
Something that really jumped my understanding and skill level(from absolute trogledyte to mediocre on a good day) was painting a huge model instead of standart size infantry style minis.
Sylvaneth for example are great to practice on.
The big giant treeman is one of the best things Ive ever painted and had a blast from start to finish.
I want to do an entire space marine chapter. I’m going to do different techniques and effects on each company :)
These Desert Ladies look like the weather in the desert during the day. Paints too.
I use acrylic paint for my minis. Any good tips for getting the best out of them??
I use only acrylics as well so almost everything I mention works for them
Nice video! From which artist is the miniature from the mistake 6?
Oh, I painted that one, but it's from Kingdom Death - it's called Pinup Nightmare Ram Armor
@@Zumikito thank you!
Okay mostly agree, but I still like many metal miniatures. Dark Sword's detailing is swoon worthy!
Aaaaah deliberate practise...killing a nicely painted minaiture with shoddy osl practise was a nightmare :( It got better alot but I still flinch everytime I think I should do osl ^^
Would love to know what the problem with metal minis is for you? I see a lot of average plastic and resin stuff that I’d choose metal over.
It's about handling the material - easy to bend, break apart glued parts and the primer doesn't hold as nicely. But regarding the quality of details and sculpts - sure, it can be as good as other materials.
@@Zumikito totally agree! thanks for the explanation!
Im stuck batch painting right now. Ugh. Its killing me!!!
Daylight lamp boys 👍🏼
What are some cheap paints I can start painting Warhammer models with do I have to buy the hundred and $60 crazy paints
Standard acrylic craft paint works fine, and you can mix them around just as much.
i tend to paint 2-3 minis at a time, i can't do more than that
I love metal minis. :G
Another excellent vid. Informative but no preachy. Full of sound, digestible advice.
many of these you can only apply or learn after some years doing it
Metal minis are my favorite XD
My biggest issue with painting miniatures is that if i screw up something i've painted and i can clearly see what i've screwed up, but i don't know how to fix that issue, i'm stuck in this loop of screwing stuff up, with no solution on how to fix it, and most of the times looking up guides or asking for help gives me no useful help to the issue at hand.
For example
Me: "Hey, i tried my second attempt at OSL, but something about it just don't seem right, i don't know what i could do to change it, would anyone offer critique on it ?"
Some person: Your basecoats are too thick, thin your paints
which firstly wasn't what i asked about and secondly if i thin my paints more than i do, the paint end up becoming an uncontrolable mess, but it's annoying how many times the only "advice" i get is "thin your paints"
Other times something in tutorials or guides or tips don't translate well over to when i paint myself, or i just simply don't understand what they mean, regardless of how many times i watch said tutorial.
which mostly end up where i just end up screwing up because i misunderstand or don't do it the exact same way (For example with how much you have to thin your paints or how to glaze, etc).
Not to mention the Barrier between whoever that does the tutorial and me.
For example once again, and to no offense to you of course, this happened with your NMM video, i tried my first attempt at it following your video, stripping the paint a bunch of times because of my multiple attempts at putting paint on, in which the paint became too thick on the miniature, and didn't look like metal regardless.
It is of course not an issue with your video, just that i have a hard time not going "how is this supposed to be THAT easy" when i look at an tutorial video and then at my own miniature.
It honestly sometimes becomes a nightmare and overwhelming i just sometimes just wanna paint for painting sake than to train and learn some new technique.
Lmao @ 3
Yea, just Kimera and maybe a few specialised paints* and you're quite literally set for painting *everything.*
*fluorescent, metallics, maybe inks, oils, etc
The best advice is in step 10 when he addresses that you don’t need to have 40 hours into a mini if all your doing is gaming.
I always break rule 8 😅 I have the horrible habit of doing 80+ models at a time