FlatHead V8 Fires up! Ed Smith Shares Tools Tricks rebuilding Flatheads at Five Star Engines PHX AZ

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  • Ed Smith Explains some tool modifications and methods he's learned of the years of racing and engine rebuilding. This is a must-see for anyone working on Ford and Lincoln Flathead engines.
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  • @kelleysimonds5945
    @kelleysimonds5945 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    This guy is so knowledgable and good humored, he's the kind of guy that every mechanic should learn from.

  • @stephenpilanen1902
    @stephenpilanen1902 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    This man is an absolute gem a wealth of knowledge.

  • @ScottDLR
    @ScottDLR 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Nothing sounds better than a ford Flathead V8

  • @jorgefernandez-mv8hu
    @jorgefernandez-mv8hu 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Now there's a man worth knowing if you need an engine rebuilt. What a great guy!

  • @nicksavage1791
    @nicksavage1791 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    Man I wish I had a dad or grandpa that would have taught me what he knows. These guys are amazing and an absolute wealth of knowledge.

  • @MotorcycleDuke
    @MotorcycleDuke 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Let's face it...technology has taken over years ago but if it wasn't for men like this with the foundation of the mechanical aspects totally mastered we would be nowhere! He is a treasure and deserves all the respect in the world! The best part is that you can see that he loves what he is doing And sharing it with the world. Keep this guy and his videos coming!

    • @BarryTsGarage
      @BarryTsGarage  15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thank you, Jeff, I certainly agree with you about Ed’s hard work and then being generous to be willing to share what he’s learned. I’ll keep them coming as long as he’s willing to sit down with me!

  • @mcheles3301
    @mcheles3301 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    This is the most helpful flathead video on youtube.

  • @lisabruneau3801
    @lisabruneau3801 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    This man is a genius on these engines, learned more in five minutes than I thought possible.

  • @philvanim4888
    @philvanim4888 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    This guy is a treasure! He is really willing to share his knowledge. Great!

  • @davidhofman4341
    @davidhofman4341 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

    I am 73 years old. The bill for bringing me into the world was paid for by my father rebuilding Ford flat heads at a Central Pa. Ford dealer. He had it set up with a local bank to finance the overhaul using the value in the car. That was in 1950s. He disliked adjustable lifters and never used them. He said you could hear if the engine had adjustable ones. I remember my Mother in 1947 SUPER DELUXE at stop sign telling us kids to be silent so she could HEAR if the engine was running.

    • @MilkMan608
      @MilkMan608 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      My folks paid Dr. Larson $50 in 1950.👍

  • @thekidd8169
    @thekidd8169 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    More Ed Smith please. See if you can do a whole series of him, building a flat beginning to end the whole machining process.

    • @BarryTsGarage
      @BarryTsGarage  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Thank you for that suggestion we’ll see what we can do!

    • @thekidd8169
      @thekidd8169 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@BarryTsGarage thank you Barry.

  • @nathantrost7773
    @nathantrost7773 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I've been turning wrenches for 30 years and I have the upmost respect for this older guy here. I can tell he really knows these old engines. Amazing Wealth of knowledge right there. 👍👍

    • @BarryTsGarage
      @BarryTsGarage  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Thank you, Nathan, and I’m glad to have you join us!

  • @brethawkins6075
    @brethawkins6075 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    This guy is a gem, they broke the mold with him. I am on my second flathead now and this is stupid helpful! Thank you so much!

  • @cowshottv5867
    @cowshottv5867 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I love hearing somebody who really really knows what he's talking about and this guy does.

  • @SK-tr9ii
    @SK-tr9ii 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I like watching his hands. You can see the years of muscle memory at work.

  • @wildcycles1
    @wildcycles1 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I have learned more in the first fifteen minutes of this film than I have in years of asking questions. This fella is an absolute gem! I have a nice running flathead that I want to put a bigger cam in and now I am confident that I can do it without removing the valves! Thanks for this video!

    • @BarryTsGarage
      @BarryTsGarage  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Glad it was helpful!

  • @p.arnevik6734
    @p.arnevik6734 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Totaly corect way to educate . No braging -no ' lm the best in the world'- fellow taking to much ! Like stuff like this !

    • @fordilac
      @fordilac 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You mean he is not David Vizarding it!

  • @normsweet1710
    @normsweet1710 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I wonder if Ed ever watches to see if he’s followed home. His lifetime of “experience” is most valuable. Y’all better take notes, Ya never know when you’ll need a bit of good ol fashion “horse sence” thanks Ed, very kind of you to share with us your lifetime of knowledge 👍❤️

    • @user-cv7tr1bi5c
      @user-cv7tr1bi5c 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Notmanyaroundflatsorflatheadmàchànics❤❤😂🎉 0:00

  • @robertchall8576
    @robertchall8576 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I could listen to him all day.

  • @russschubert6709
    @russschubert6709 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    It’s great to have short cuts and the ways one has learned from many years of working on the flatheads
    Many ways that have been lost from not sharing

  • @Dazza_Doo
    @Dazza_Doo 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I think we should start making more Flat-head/side valve engines. The engine I have in my van is a common rail diesel- you can't service that yourself. We need to become more self reliant. Simpler engine that are reliable and serviceable is key to independence.
    2 years ago my 3.2Ltr diesel Ranger stripped the pistons, because a hole in the coolant hose, that pumped the coolant out on the highway as I was driving. $10,000 USD later I had a rebuilt engine.

  • @flintcoat2596
    @flintcoat2596 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I found your channel yesterday, and today I learned the use of some of my Dad's tools! My Dad was a Ford man and had most of the same tools shown today. I think he would have killed for those magnetic value keeper installer!
    I knew the adjustable lifters came out of a tractor, but not which one!
    I think (not positive) my Dad ground the entire bottom threaded portion off of the adjuster and used a center punch in the upper until the adjuster dragged enough CEO it would not move after it was installed!
    I am going to recommend your channel to my Grand nephew today!

    • @BarryTsGarage
      @BarryTsGarage  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Wonderful! So glad to have you along!

  • @joemuncie9187
    @joemuncie9187 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Wow, great video. At 70 years old, I have only worked on one flathead V8. Very unique sound. And yes, if the valves hit the pistons on that engine, you have big problems!!!

    • @BarryTsGarage
      @BarryTsGarage  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Haha REALLY BIG problems! 😂

  • @hotrodscott55
    @hotrodscott55 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Very informative, thankyou.

    • @BarryTsGarage
      @BarryTsGarage  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Glad it was helpful!

  • @michaelstaddon2522
    @michaelstaddon2522 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    What a legend, reminds of my apprenticeship back in the seventies having the old guy's showing me the correct way to do it.👍

    • @BarryTsGarage
      @BarryTsGarage  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you - I agree. I hope to bring more of him

  • @phildanh621
    @phildanh621 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Thank you Ed and Barry. This is wonderful. Thinking of driving all the way to Phoenix to bring you my V8-60 to tune up and break in before I put in the car.

  • @richb4099
    @richb4099 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I'm 75 and started working on cars as a teenager.....I never worked on Flathead Ford engines that I can recall. By the time I was driving they were not really out there much. I can only recall one friend had one in high school. I know they were tough to work on because of that vale train arrangement. Ed's one very smart and knowledgeable man....sharp as can be! Experience counts !!

  • @chrisrhodes5464
    @chrisrhodes5464 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    This man has some great ideas and knowledge of the flat head motor someone please learn as much as possible from this man before we lose him

  • @tinolino58
    @tinolino58 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I run a flathead in my very old speedboat build 1947 🥳

  • @carlofirpo3006
    @carlofirpo3006 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Excellent tricks of the trade information. I'm going to fab up one of those bars for pushing the intake guide down.

  • @andone555
    @andone555 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Barry thanks so much for documenting this treasure of hot rod knowledge, Ed Smith!

    • @BarryTsGarage
      @BarryTsGarage  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It’s my pleasure, I’m really enjoying getting to know Ed and I always learn something when I’m around him!

  • @laykhom3212
    @laykhom3212 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Love the video thanks

    • @BarryTsGarage
      @BarryTsGarage  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Glad you enjoyed it!

  • @ninja63639
    @ninja63639 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I like those freeze plugs in the crossover passages. I used '49 wheat pennies in my '49 8BA

  • @carlofirpo3006
    @carlofirpo3006 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I would like to get more detailed information on the oil pump/pan modification for full filtration.

    • @BarryTsGarage
      @BarryTsGarage  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I’ll see what I can learn in a few weeks… Everybody happens to be traveling at the moment

  • @MartsGarage
    @MartsGarage 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Thanks for sharing all the tips and tricks. I've worked on a few flatheads and shown them in my own videos. I have also used a lever down the inlet ports to push the valves down and this is the first time I have ever seen anyone else acknowledge the method. The screw in the lifters is a tricky one. If you have one that is too loose you can crush the screw lengthwise as that is how they produced the tight thread in the first place. You do need both parts of the thread in the thread in the lifter for it to remain tight. Once again, thanks for showing some real in depth flathead content, lots of it just gets glossed over. All the best, Mart in England.

    • @BarryTsGarage
      @BarryTsGarage  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Thank you, Mart, seems like you know, a few tricks yourself! Thanks for joining in the fun…

  • @piewagn
    @piewagn 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I've used those "Johnson" keys with absolutely NO problems...

  • @kasems1536
    @kasems1536 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Thank you from Bangkok,,,,, l love your job, very nice❤

    • @BarryTsGarage
      @BarryTsGarage  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      So nice of you

  • @alvingriggs6932
    @alvingriggs6932 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Wish his shop was in my town!!

  • @chuckb9867
    @chuckb9867 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Just so you know TH-cam sent me your channel I'm loving it and subscribed immediately I do know where a Lincoln Zephyr V12 is just sitting four-door though and I have a 1942 Ford staff car it's been sitting in the bushes for years and want to work on it and bring it back

    • @BarryTsGarage
      @BarryTsGarage  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I’m glad to hear it! Sounds like you should get to work on it! Thanks for joining in, Chuck.

    • @BarryTsGarage
      @BarryTsGarage  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I don’t know, I imagine even if parts don’t interchange there would be a lot of methods that would…

  • @chuckb9867
    @chuckb9867 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Be nice to see a video for this guy once a week he's on real

    • @BarryTsGarage
      @BarryTsGarage  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks! I’ve been trying to talk Ed into that… He always “has too much work to do…”. Will keep trying.

  • @WesleyBlack-l3r
    @WesleyBlack-l3r 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Man you are awesome Mr.smith

  • @JasonAirInc
    @JasonAirInc 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I wish I had seen this before I installed my lifters. Cool idea about sticking dowel rods under the valves to get the cam out.

    • @BarryTsGarage
      @BarryTsGarage  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Still glad to have you along here! Thank you

  • @S7midnight
    @S7midnight ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Great video! I bet this guy forgot more than other mechanics will ever learn :) and the engine is beautiful, probably this work costs more than an average car

    • @BarryTsGarage
      @BarryTsGarage  ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yes, Ed seems to just “spill” info as a natural conversation. Thank you very much!

  • @skipstein744
    @skipstein744 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thanks for all your information. What are the differences in the early 221 ci engine and the later 239 ci engines? Thanks!

  • @jamesmay6075
    @jamesmay6075 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Thanks!

    • @BarryTsGarage
      @BarryTsGarage  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Wow I appreciate that so much, James!

  • @460mark8
    @460mark8 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Still curious how assembly line workers were able to install the valves at the speed of production let alone be able to machine the parts so everything was in spec. I was able to meet Don Sullivan who was one of the original Ford flathead designers while working as a prototype engine mechanic at Ford but never thought about flatheads until many years after he passed.

    • @BarryTsGarage
      @BarryTsGarage  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I have no idea but would postulate the engines were assembled on a different line or lines to account for the difference of time needed…?
      And thanks for sharing about Don Sullivan. Some make fun of the flathead and maybe it was getting ‘old’ by the mid ‘50’s but when it came out it was amazing!

    • @legend7ify
      @legend7ify 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      G'day there,
      I remember seeing a FORD factory film, and yes the engines were complete when arriving at the assembly line from the Engine Department.
      Cheers and kind regards.
      Malcolm. (vintage 1942)
      ​ @BarryTsGarage

  • @desertbob6835
    @desertbob6835 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I had a '50 Custom with the 239, 100 HP. You MUST have those special tools to do flattie valves. Johnson adjustable tappets are a must-have. Although legendary, the Ford flatties were NOT great engines.

    • @BarryTsGarage
      @BarryTsGarage  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I wouldn’t argue with you, thank you for chiming in…

  • @lonnieturner2406
    @lonnieturner2406 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    What size hole does he drill?

    • @BarryTsGarage
      @BarryTsGarage  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I will ask…

  • @jerrybigrig9475
    @jerrybigrig9475 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    😎👍😎

  • @MyNameIsChristBringsASword
    @MyNameIsChristBringsASword 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I'm inexperienced wishing I knew this stuff long time ago although I don't know why.

  • @chuckb9867
    @chuckb9867 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I wonder where this guy shop is is I'm from Connecticut

    • @BarryTsGarage
      @BarryTsGarage  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He’s in Glendale (Phoenix) AZ. Thanks!

  • @ashleyfroud5015
    @ashleyfroud5015 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Split keepers, for valve ends.

  • @chuckb9867
    @chuckb9867 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I have a 42 Ford flathead 6 I wonder if he has tips for that too

    • @BarryTsGarage
      @BarryTsGarage  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I’ll try to ask him

    • @chuckb9867
      @chuckb9867 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@BarryTsGarage that's really nice of you

  • @davidpruyne7340
    @davidpruyne7340 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Awsome video ,,,,, I seen a model A block in the background,,,, can he fix them to take insert bearings ,,,, or re pour the babbitt bearings

    • @BarryTsGarage
      @BarryTsGarage  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      He’s not a fan of babbitt so setting them up for inserts will be the choice…
      Thanks for your comment!

  • @CUTproductionsLtd
    @CUTproductionsLtd 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Absolute wonderful old gentleman! This kind of experience and knowledge, you can't buy at any price. The only thing I would dare ask is how do you lock those tappets, when the bolt now moves more freely? From what I gather most people drill holes in the block seats to hold with a rod whilst adjusting, and the sheer difficulty of adjusting the bolt is to maintain that adjustment. 'Modern' tappet adjustments have a locking screw/bolt for this purpose. Just asking :)

  • @Rustyhalligans
    @Rustyhalligans 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    i would like some info on the shop Name Ed works at. impossible to find someone with this kind of knowledge to build your Flathead V8. I have one i need built

    • @BarryTsGarage
      @BarryTsGarage  4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      You can try Five Star Engines in Phoenix AZ but Ed is mostly retired.

  • @johnbeyl3892
    @johnbeyl3892 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Ask Ed if he remembers John Lane...

    • @BarryTsGarage
      @BarryTsGarage  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Will do!

    • @BarryTsGarage
      @BarryTsGarage  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      He said of course he does!

    • @johnbeyl3892
      @johnbeyl3892 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @BarryT’sGarage I was talking to John not too long ago and we were discussing his old racing and speedshop days in AZ. I asked him if he knew Ed. That opened an interesting discussion to say the least!

    • @BarryTsGarage
      @BarryTsGarage  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@johnbeyl3892 I love it!

  • @piewagn
    @piewagn 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    So, is Ed advocating replacing the camshaft and reusing the old undamaged lifters? I'd like to know...seriously.

    • @BarryTsGarage
      @BarryTsGarage  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No. He is demonstrating how you could change a cam easily if for example you have a new build but decide you want a different cam profile.

  • @JamesBurton-kv8sd
    @JamesBurton-kv8sd 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have 1947 flat head it has distributor front engine. I like to know more about engine oil pump conversion. also want type oil use engine after overhaul. In your you tube were buy life for this engine. Really enjoy you take about value adjusting .were found tool put lock back on value stem? What make tool out the for intake value? Want charge to do complete overhaul on 1947 engine?

  • @Corvacar
    @Corvacar 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Why did Ford stop making Engines using Full Floating connecting rod bearings after the 59AB --cost ?

    • @BarryTsGarage
      @BarryTsGarage  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Cost is always my first guess

  • @user-qz7zx7qy1k
    @user-qz7zx7qy1k 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi Ed , I have a 239 flathead that I can not put the fuel pump pushrod back into the port. Same cam new bearings installed by a builder .I am using the same pushrod. The bearing is aligned but it looks like the opening in the cam bearing is to small. Any ideas. Fred

  • @robertwest3093
    @robertwest3093 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Did you catch that this block is bored .100 over??

    • @BarryTsGarage
      @BarryTsGarage  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      True! Apparently the ford flathead can even handle a .125 over!

  • @king0cans
    @king0cans 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Are you guys in Phoenix?

    • @BarryTsGarage
      @BarryTsGarage  9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Ayes

    • @king0cans
      @king0cans 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@BarryTsGarage My mother knows Ed. Lol

  • @geraldbellows8831
    @geraldbellows8831 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Lifters are Ford tractor

  • @rcrussell9476
    @rcrussell9476 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    There is no reason to turn the camshaft so many times when you can turn the engine one revolution one time to set all valves. I cut my teeth on flathead fords & i have the chart that tells you how to do that. I've used it many times before adjustable lifters were available. We ground the ends of the valves to set the clearance,: pretty fast when you could set one third of the valves at the same time.

    • @oldamericaniron5767
      @oldamericaniron5767 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I did my flathead with all stock parts, it takes some time to fit valve clearance when using different valves than were in it. To me an interesting note is caterpillar 2 cylinder opposed starting engine has valve guides held in place with clips just like flathead V8 Ford.

  • @user-wf3dt6yj1i
    @user-wf3dt6yj1i 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    The other guy should hush up

    • @BarryTsGarage
      @BarryTsGarage  20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I know I need to curb my enthusiasm! Thanks for watching

  • @Cougracer67
    @Cougracer67 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Erroneous info on the oil filters! They were by-pass units and used a tiny orifice to meter oil flow through the filter so oil pressure was not lost by an empty filter. Plus, that orifice was near the top of the filter so all the oil never drained down into the pan! By the way, Red's Headers is in California, not back east.

    • @BarryTsGarage
      @BarryTsGarage  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks for your input!