The reason for the lower consumption for the EQS is because it has a lower drag coefficient than the EQE, and that’s because the longer back-end on the EQS reduces turbulence more than the EQE
Drag coefficient ist as important as frontal area. If the EQS is 1cm wider it increases the wind resistance as well. It's the same factor. A * dragC. Is the EQS wider or higher then EQE? 🤔
@Fleix yes absolutely right! The longer, smoother back end is one of the biggest parts for reducing turbulence and hence reducing drag. The EQXX is a case in point, with the retractable "wing".
I like: - interior build quality, materials, haptic - streamlined aero with a large battery for great highway range - suspension, NVH insulation - sound system and effects Dislike: - missing heatpump - missing (motorized) frunk - no real 1-pedal driving, regen resets on each drive - capacitive buttons (steering wheel, main panel, seat buttons) - hatch opening
@@jkev1425 I'm on FSD Beta so hopefully I'll see that new energy app soon. But I mean like the current energy usage from the motors, battery voltage, if one motor is being used or both etc. The really fine grain stuff. Again would just be nice. Not necessary to get that detailed but I would appreciate it.
@@OverlordActual Ahh okay - with "Scan my Tesla" you have access to nearly everything in the car. Torque on steering wheel, %breake pedal pressed, watt used from heatpump. I usually use it to know my battery temperature and whether I need heat it by driving faster. Everything else is a toy if you not use it like Björn every day for testing purpose in my opinion.
The reason for higher consumtion is that AMG models has different battery Managment and components that priorities performance and multiple laps on a race track to low consumption.
EQS 580 4MATIC has a quoted weight of 2620kg vs. 2525kg for the AMG EQE 53+ this means the EQS has 3.8% higher mass and rolling resistance assuming roughly equal friction coefficients for the tires (which is probably not true here since you drove one on Goodyear Eagle F1 and the other on Continental VCZ). EQS 580 has a cd = 0.2 and a cross-sectional area (new German word for you "Stirnfläche") of 2.51m^2 whereas the EQE 53+ has cd = 0.22 and an (estimated) cross sectional area of 2.48m^2 which means that at the same speed and in the same environment the EQS experiences 8% less drag. At 90kph-120kph importance of drag and rolling resistance are about equal which means that drag advantage of the EQS overcompensates for its weight disadvantage. If you would compare range at city-speed, the EQE would probably get better than the EQS since here rolling resistance is more important. Of course there may also be secondary effects like differences in power consumption of subsystems of the vehicle, differences in options etc.
Ionity is a subscription model, like Tesla. 69p is one of the unit rates, yes. Its the guest rate so is highest. If you're a subscriber, or own a car manufactured by an Ionity partner, then you have access to significantly lower prices.
How do you find the suspension and dampening in the EQE compared to EQS? In this video mainly highway and parking is viewed but do you find any differences between these two models so far?
@@bjornnyland EQE AMG is tighter than EQS non AMG. Otherwise they should be the same (when both on air suspension, which is optional in the EQE non AMG versions).
I don't see the difference in this context. Every motor is an engine but not every engine is a motor. So as long as we are talking about an electric motor the term "engine" can be used as well. At least that's my understanding. But I'm not a native english speaker so take this with a grain of salt :)
EQS has better aerodynamics, thats why it is more efficient than EQE. But for nordic countries it has a big disadvantage in comparsion to other EVs, no Heatpump😌 ... Seems like the Engineers in Stuttgart called it a day after finishing the aerodynamics, and went home. Or, they had no more spaceleft under the hood, bec. of monstruous Hepa-Filter. 🤣
Oh no!! Just noticed that it’s a 4 door, not 5 door like the EQS/model S… I thought May be my replacement for model 3 in 2 years…, but nope, need a “hatch back” door… 😢
1:30 my OCD already kicked in looking at all that dust! What was mercedes thinking with this interior design. I like the outside but the dashboard is butt ugly.
@@nielsvandenkieboom5034 nobody asked you, or did i iverlook that? Many people buy toyotas and Mitsubishis and are absolutely fine with them. Tesla was a bit like apple in the early days of the EV, the car to have. But with their ongoing quality problems in hardware and software, and THESE options out there tesla‘s getting more and more pushed aside..
It probably comes down to what is available in the press pool for Bjorn. and it comes down to profit margins for the manufacturers. Higher end models just rake it more money per unit, which is important to the makers since the supply is constrained.
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The reason for the lower consumption for the EQS is because it has a lower drag coefficient than the EQE, and that’s because the longer back-end on the EQS reduces turbulence more than the EQE
Drag coefficient ist as important as frontal area. If the EQS is 1cm wider it increases the wind resistance as well. It's the same factor. A * dragC. Is the EQS wider or higher then EQE? 🤔
@@jkev1425 The EQS is 35mm slimmer in the front than the EQE and the same height with around a half meter more in length
@@fleixfire6641 Thanks for checking!
@Fleix yes absolutely right! The longer, smoother back end is one of the biggest parts for reducing turbulence and hence reducing drag. The EQXX is a case in point, with the retractable "wing".
Bjork had to weigh the EQS fully charged to see how much all those electrons weighed.
I like:
- interior build quality, materials, haptic
- streamlined aero with a large battery for great highway range
- suspension, NVH insulation
- sound system and effects
Dislike:
- missing heatpump
- missing (motorized) frunk
- no real 1-pedal driving, regen resets on each drive
- capacitive buttons (steering wheel, main panel, seat buttons)
- hatch opening
Battery temperature gauges should be standard on all cars. I see why they aren't. But they should be!
Yes, normally the #EQE53AMG is running staggered with 295/30 21" at the back.
I hope one day Tesla shows as much energy usage information as Mercedes does. It's just fun to see.
The latest update shows really everything in Tesla energy consumption.
@@jkev1425 I'm on FSD Beta so hopefully I'll see that new energy app soon. But I mean like the current energy usage from the motors, battery voltage, if one motor is being used or both etc. The really fine grain stuff. Again would just be nice. Not necessary to get that detailed but I would appreciate it.
@@OverlordActual Ahh okay - with "Scan my Tesla" you have access to nearly everything in the car. Torque on steering wheel, %breake pedal pressed, watt used from heatpump. I usually use it to know my battery temperature and whether I need heat it by driving faster. Everything else is a toy if you not use it like Björn every day for testing purpose in my opinion.
The reason for higher consumtion is that AMG models has different battery Managment and components that priorities performance and multiple laps on a race track to low consumption.
EQS 580 4MATIC has a quoted weight of 2620kg vs. 2525kg for the AMG EQE 53+ this means the EQS has 3.8% higher mass and rolling resistance assuming roughly equal friction coefficients for the tires (which is probably not true here since you drove one on Goodyear Eagle F1 and the other on Continental VCZ).
EQS 580 has a cd = 0.2 and a cross-sectional area (new German word for you "Stirnfläche") of 2.51m^2 whereas the EQE 53+ has cd = 0.22 and an (estimated) cross sectional area of 2.48m^2 which means that at the same speed and in the same environment the EQS experiences 8% less drag.
At 90kph-120kph importance of drag and rolling resistance are about equal which means that drag advantage of the EQS overcompensates for its weight disadvantage. If you would compare range at city-speed, the EQE would probably get better than the EQS since here rolling resistance is more important.
Of course there may also be secondary effects like differences in power consumption of subsystems of the vehicle, differences in options etc.
2600kg is ridiculous heavy
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yup
Is it, why?
Nice boat
AMG EQE has a spoiler at the back so less aerodynamic.
EQS is longer: "Länge läuft!"
Ionity in the UK is expensive. @69p/kWh for a slower charge.
Ionity is a subscription model, like Tesla. 69p is one of the unit rates, yes. Its the guest rate so is highest. If you're a subscriber, or own a car manufactured by an Ionity partner, then you have access to significantly lower prices.
If money would be no object, would you rather go with the EQE AMG or the BMW i4 M50?
Tesla model 3 lr
Will you be testing the MG4 (Mulan) soon?
I can only imagine all the electric and electronic issues that it will suffer 24 hour past the warranty expiration
Do you think Bjorn is more comfortable than rear wheel drive one? As AMG maybe suspension is better? Seats? Acoustic glass?
I'm waiting for BMW I5 testing on your channel sir.
How do you find the suspension and dampening in the EQE compared to EQS? In this video mainly highway and parking is viewed but do you find any differences between these two models so far?
EQE is tighter than EQS
@@bjornnyland EQE AMG is tighter than EQS non AMG. Otherwise they should be the same (when both on air suspension, which is optional in the EQE non AMG versions).
25 °C in oktober??That is insane in Norway.
Any ideas on idle power consumption in park mode? On a Tesla 300W or above is not uncommon as the car scavenges heat.
94° at 120km/h? Thats quiet some Temperature for this Speed!
No acceleration test... Mercedes traction control kaputt?
Wheels just spun
@@bjornnyland That is strange, that car should be able to reduce power to always have optimum wheel slip/traction
I find it pretty funny you say "EQE 55" when you are just right infront of the emblem that says EQE 53... 😜
Good stuff
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Motor and engine are two different things - hope Mercedes also realizes this one day
I don't see the difference in this context. Every motor is an engine but not every engine is a motor. So as long as we are talking about an electric motor the term "engine" can be used as well. At least that's my understanding. But I'm not a native english speaker so take this with a grain of salt :)
"Motor and engine are interchangeable in standard English."
Source: Wikipedia article "Engine"
EQS has better aerodynamics, thats why it is more efficient than EQE. But for nordic countries it has a big disadvantage in comparsion to other EVs, no Heatpump😌 ... Seems like the Engineers in Stuttgart called it a day after finishing the aerodynamics, and went home. Or, they had no more spaceleft under the hood, bec. of monstruous Hepa-Filter. 🤣
They’re going to confuse everyone with the damn E”s 😅
The S is more efficient for the bloody €40K plus and honestly, it really should be!
du må lage intro med bilkomponenter siden dem også står der :D
I love yo colour and the car to ;)
Oh no!! Just noticed that it’s a 4 door, not 5 door like the EQS/model S… I thought May be my replacement for model 3 in 2 years…, but nope, need a “hatch back” door… 😢
1:30 my OCD already kicked in looking at all that dust! What was mercedes thinking with this interior design. I like the outside but the dashboard is butt ugly.
Can you test The new Renault Megane e tech?😍
As soon as Renault can provide me a car, yes...
@@bjornnyland thanks 🙏 😍
much too heavy - 2,6 t ?? - no way
It's all good and everything but it's still an extremely expensive car.
Why 95? Is the speedo so wrong?
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Yeah if the 4matic doesn’t fail
As much as i like this car, the price is a bad joke
Not the germans invented the so called Autobahn. It came first from Italy. Kind regards from Germany 😉
What a car 😍. Who want a sh#tty tesla when you can have THIS?
you realize EQE AMG costs as much as a Model S Plaid? Also, not many are cross shopping between Mercedes and Tesla.
At some point you'll realise that charging is more important than the car itself.
Hmm, you get 2!! M3P for the monies of this.
Well because Tesla is much cheaper to get and cheaper to drive as they’re more efficient. I wouldn’t trade in my Model 3 RWD for this Mercedes🤷♂️
@@nielsvandenkieboom5034 nobody asked you, or did i iverlook that? Many people buy toyotas and Mitsubishis and are absolutely fine with them. Tesla was a bit like apple in the early days of the EV, the car to have. But with their ongoing quality problems in hardware and software, and THESE options out there tesla‘s getting more and more pushed aside..
What happened to the PORSCHE pronunciation?
😀✌🇩🇪
460kW on a 350v battery is insane... that's over 1300 Amps!!! Model S Plaid has to use a pyrofuse to get currents that high.
Aren’t there cars more affordable and less powerful to test,for normal people?
It probably comes down to what is available in the press pool for Bjorn. and it comes down to profit margins for the manufacturers. Higher end models just rake it more money per unit, which is important to the makers since the supply is constrained.
Watch range test of EQE 300 (RWD) coming next week.
I really want to see the MG4. That could be my next car after the Citigo e iV.
@Louis-Michel Furnémont I guess, Bjorn will test MG4 soon. So he can satisfy lower income needs as well.
@@John_S_NL don’t buy chinese car
Not reliable and cheap construction
EQE=EQ GLE ？More like EQ GLE！
The design is so damn weird.
Weird? It's ugly and severly overpriced