Simple Choice and 3 reasons why. 1) MDAQS The Multi-Dimensional Audio Quality Score results indicates BOSE Quiet Comfort Ultra is much better than the SONY WH-1000XM5. 2) Sony XM5 release date May 2022 MSRP $399.99 and Bose QC Ultra release date October 2023 MSRP $429. aka release date (age) and original pricing. 3) 2024 Holiday sale XM5 $299 and QC Ultra $329 both dropping $100. affordability as Sony XM5 should be discounted more because it is a year older than Bose QC Ultra. On the other hand, the best audio/sounding BT headphones are the Sennheiser Momentum 4 release date August 2022 MSRP $349 and now on sale for $229 as $120 less. The Momentum 4 MDAQS rating is about equal to the Bose QC Ultra. Another thing: Momentum 4 just sounds better than Bose or Sony probably because of the 42mm dynamic drivers. The best affordable Bluetooth headphone which cost less of the 3 is Momentum 4. The quality is better than the Sony XM5 and just a small notch below the Bose QC Ultra. Sorry. Bose QC-45 are outdated but most likely provide better comfort than other BT headphones.
Anyone looking for gym headphones I would say go with the Bose. I had the Momentum 4's for about 10 days before I returned them. The clamp force was way too strong for working out and my shoulders would often touch the play/pause touch controls when I was training back. They sound great though!
On the moment I‘m deciding between the Bose qc ultra and the b&w px7 S2.The Bose are 269,99€ and the b&w are 159,99€ in my country.Which shut I choose.I‘m Not Planung on using them as much for travelling.I will use them with my iPhone and my windows pc for Musik ,Gaming, TH-cam and sometimes for movies. I have also a question about the snapdragon sound and aptx adaptive:dose this work with windows or do need to get an adapter?
I have tried both (I own the M4) but in my opinion, the momentum 4 eats the Bose without a doubt when it comes to the sound, but I do think the Bose are a little better for the daily use, they are more comfortable and lighter. If your priority is the sound, go for the Sennheiser
I’m on the fence. Both are on sale right now! I primarily use my headphones for hanging out in the house listening to music and podcasts while I’m cooking or doing chores. Which do you think would be better for a non-traveling lifestyle? Someone who just listens at home while they’re hanging out? I mean, I’ll travel occasionally but not super often.
Are the momentum 4's good for studying, i.e. noise cancelling and comfort for several hours of use in a row in environments where the chatter can get quite loud at times. Currently looking at the momentum 4s vs the xm5s since the xm5s apparently have the best anc of all or close, whereas the momentum 4s have worse anc but better in pretty much everything else, Currently I'd also be able to get the momentum 4s for 230 vs 370 for the xm5s although price isn't really a big deal (although 370 is the highest I'll go)
the momentum 4’s active noise cancelling is really bad, it’s only good if the environment isn’t that loud to begin with like inside a library. you could also get airpod pros instead of the xm5 for cheaper if youre looking for good noise cancellation
Indeed they are just fine!! The nitpickers will make you believe that they are not!! I have used them many times over and the quality of audio,battery life,comfort is awesome!!! I have tried both and I believe the Bose are wonderful BUT the M4’s are quite splendid to use with amazing features to boot!!
Ignore the haters. Yes it's not Sony levels of ANC but I just sat with these for 14 hours on a flight from Japan and couldn't hear the screaming baby 5 rows away. The battery life is crazy though, almost unnecessary levels of playback as you'll definitely be at home between use of these. Not great if you planned to use them in the gym too, they don't clamp on my head as tightly but that's not what I bought them for. XM5 price is absolutely insane compared to this.
@thesongoflunch alright lol they seem to be fine for long use as well, been reading some stuff about their clamping force & the headband being quite thin, then again the XM5s seem to have the same issue at least as far as the headband goes with it being so damn narrow for some reason.
if you travel a lot isn't battery life more important than being compact?, yes momentum case is bulkier but not by much, but 60hrs battery vs 24hrs, with 60hrs you can travel for a week without needing to charge
Depends. You’re right, it’s important. But most people have the opportunity to charge: airports and airplanes now often have charging ports. (Don’t know about most trains, though, a very different case than I’m used to.) Space, however, especially when traveling international, is at a premium. I was just on a flight to Japan and space is definitely at a premium with carry-on luggage. (Especially if you want to minimize check-in.) The bigger case would have been a problem - inches count - but the 24 hour battery was plenty for my need. Still, a longer battery would definitely be preferable, and I’m surprised it’s still not over 30 hours at least. 60 is marvelous. So this very much depends on your travel needs.
@ Bose are muddy and def not balanced. Most reviews say as much. The momentums def have stand out bass. But again, with the amazing EQ in the app, they can sound however you want.
Well, I did the comparison to the Px7 S2e, which is close, although the Px8 has a darker tone: th-cam.com/video/1_bPTRmt5w8/w-d-xo.html I also compared it to the Bathys, and a lot of this comparison I feel holds. th-cam.com/video/9xgFyJrHeWY/w-d-xo.html I had the Px8 for a while, but it wasn’t enough of an upgrade for me from the S2e to justify the cost to keep them. The build is *really* nice, though.
The momentum build quality is very bad. I went to try them on, sound very good but cheap build quality. Do not get momentum for the gym as I had the 3 and they broke due to sweat
Why do I keep hearing this? I have a pair that has held up to being tossed around and worn in the gym five days a week. Zero issues. What are people doing?
1. The 3 and 4 have very different builds. 2. Even if they didn’t, neither is sweat resistant. These are not meant for the gym. There are gym-focused headphones for this. But if you sweat a lot, earbuds would probably be a lot better (which is what I do, BTW, a pair for QuietComforts from 2020), since most have an IP## rating. You want something with at least an IPX4 rating.
@@NorbReviews most over the ear headphones are not meant for the gym, lol. Sorry, but I’m far from a noob when it comes to headphones or audio equipment. The build quality is fine. They aren’t as rigid as the earlier models, as they use different materials. To say they have bad build quality is laughable. They hold up better than any Beats or Skullcandy cans that most young people have. And the sound quality is far superior. Bose has a muddied midrange and they kind of always have in their products. Mostly because they fill their mid to low end too heavy while leaving the upper range sharp yet still not detailed. These particularly have a sharp high end. I’m assuming to compensate for the heavy low end. But these are way exaggerated with bass. If someone is looking for a great hi res set or even a faithful reproduction of the original audio, the Bose aren’t doing it.
@ I agree. I happen to use mine the last few months bc less ppl bother you, lol. Not everyone notices you have earbuds in. Plus sound quality is better and more dynamic.
I had the Bose. They are definitely more comfortable, lighter and have deeper ear cups. However I returned them for the Momentum 4 and am so glad I did. The sound is night and day for me. I customization and personalized audio setting is amazing. The battery life is something I feel like people take for granted. They legit last for weeks between charges with pretty heavy use.
I love the confidence in my ability to get sponsorships, but you overstate both my influence and profit drive. 1. I bought these with my own money. (I almost always do, and if I don’t, I state that clearly.) 2. I’ve never once communicated with anyone from any of these companies or their representatives. 3. If I had, I would be legally obligated to disclose that relationship. 4. Even if I wasn’t obligated by both TH-cam and the FTC, I would still say something if any sort of recompense had happened because, as a viewer, *I* would want to know this. No, I’m just a guy who owns these, does this as a hobby, and is sharing his honest opinions. I also just like to make the kind of reviews that I’d personally want to watch.
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Simple Choice and 3 reasons why.
1) MDAQS The Multi-Dimensional Audio Quality Score results indicates BOSE Quiet Comfort Ultra is much better than the SONY WH-1000XM5.
2) Sony XM5 release date May 2022 MSRP $399.99 and Bose QC Ultra release date October 2023 MSRP $429. aka release date (age) and original pricing.
3) 2024 Holiday sale XM5 $299 and QC Ultra $329 both dropping $100. affordability as Sony XM5 should be discounted more because it is a year older than Bose QC Ultra.
On the other hand, the best audio/sounding BT headphones are the Sennheiser Momentum 4 release date August 2022 MSRP $349 and now on sale for $229 as $120 less.
The Momentum 4 MDAQS rating is about equal to the Bose QC Ultra. Another thing: Momentum 4 just sounds better than Bose or Sony probably because of the 42mm dynamic drivers.
The best affordable Bluetooth headphone which cost less of the 3 is Momentum 4. The quality is better than the Sony XM5 and just a small notch below the Bose QC Ultra.
Sorry. Bose QC-45 are outdated but most likely provide better comfort than other BT headphones.
Anyone looking for gym headphones I would say go with the Bose. I had the Momentum 4's for about 10 days before I returned them. The clamp force was way too strong for working out and my shoulders would often touch the play/pause touch controls when I was training back. They sound great though!
On the moment I‘m deciding between the Bose qc ultra and the b&w px7 S2.The Bose are 269,99€ and the b&w are 159,99€ in my country.Which shut I choose.I‘m Not Planung on using them as much for travelling.I will use them with my iPhone and my windows pc for Musik ,Gaming, TH-cam and sometimes for movies.
I have also a question about the snapdragon sound and aptx adaptive:dose this work with windows or do need to get an adapter?
You need an adapter
What eq settings do you use for momentum 4?
I have tried both (I own the M4) but in my opinion, the momentum 4 eats the Bose without a doubt when it comes to the sound, but I do think the Bose are a little better for the daily use, they are more comfortable and lighter. If your priority is the sound, go for the Sennheiser
I’m on the fence. Both are on sale right now! I primarily use my headphones for hanging out in the house listening to music and podcasts while I’m cooking or doing chores. Which do you think would be better for a non-traveling lifestyle? Someone who just listens at home while they’re hanging out? I mean, I’ll travel occasionally but not super often.
@ The Sennheiser
Are the momentum 4's good for studying, i.e. noise cancelling and comfort for several hours of use in a row in environments where the chatter can get quite loud at times. Currently looking at the momentum 4s vs the xm5s since the xm5s apparently have the best anc of all or close, whereas the momentum 4s have worse anc but better in pretty much everything else, Currently I'd also be able to get the momentum 4s for 230 vs 370 for the xm5s although price isn't really a big deal (although 370 is the highest I'll go)
the momentum 4’s active noise cancelling is really bad, it’s only good if the environment isn’t that loud to begin with like inside a library.
you could also get airpod pros instead of the xm5 for cheaper if youre looking for good noise cancellation
Indeed they are just fine!! The nitpickers will make you believe that they are not!! I have used them many times over and the quality of audio,battery life,comfort is awesome!!! I have tried both and I believe the Bose are wonderful BUT the M4’s are quite splendid to use with amazing features to boot!!
Ignore the haters. Yes it's not Sony levels of ANC but I just sat with these for 14 hours on a flight from Japan and couldn't hear the screaming baby 5 rows away. The battery life is crazy though, almost unnecessary levels of playback as you'll definitely be at home between use of these.
Not great if you planned to use them in the gym too, they don't clamp on my head as tightly but that's not what I bought them for.
XM5 price is absolutely insane compared to this.
@thesongoflunch alright lol they seem to be fine for long use as well, been reading some stuff about their clamping force & the headband being quite thin, then again the XM5s seem to have the same issue at least as far as the headband goes with it being so damn narrow for some reason.
FYI, description mentions Bowers & Wilkins Px7 S2e ;)
Fixed! Thank you!
if you travel a lot isn't battery life more important than being compact?, yes momentum case is bulkier but not by much, but 60hrs battery vs 24hrs, with 60hrs you can travel for a week without needing to charge
Depends. You’re right, it’s important. But most people have the opportunity to charge: airports and airplanes now often have charging ports. (Don’t know about most trains, though, a very different case than I’m used to.) Space, however, especially when traveling international, is at a premium.
I was just on a flight to Japan and space is definitely at a premium with carry-on luggage. (Especially if you want to minimize check-in.) The bigger case would have been a problem - inches count - but the 24 hour battery was plenty for my need.
Still, a longer battery would definitely be preferable, and I’m surprised it’s still not over 30 hours at least. 60 is marvelous. So this very much depends on your travel needs.
The Momentum 4 sounds far better than the Bose. Add in the app and EQ customization, and they may be the best bang for your headphones on the market.
the momentum 4 are bass heavy headphones. bose much more netural sounding .
if you love shit tons of bass , who am i to argue .
@ Bose are muddy and def not balanced. Most reviews say as much. The momentums def have stand out bass. But again, with the amazing EQ in the app, they can sound however you want.
Thank you.
Great video! , very detailed 😊
Thank you!
Is the normal quietcomfort headphones hot on the ears? I returned my M4 bc they were way too hot
I haven't tried the standard QuietComfort, but if it's anything like either the QC45 or QC Ultras, ear heat won't be an issue.
Sennheiser's are by far better. We need comparison of them to PX8 Bowers & Wilkins
Well, I did the comparison to the Px7 S2e, which is close, although the Px8 has a darker tone: th-cam.com/video/1_bPTRmt5w8/w-d-xo.html
I also compared it to the Bathys, and a lot of this comparison I feel holds. th-cam.com/video/9xgFyJrHeWY/w-d-xo.html
I had the Px8 for a while, but it wasn’t enough of an upgrade for me from the S2e to justify the cost to keep them. The build is *really* nice, though.
@@NorbReviews if the momentums's had premium build quality like the PX8 or B&Os H95/H100 they would be the best
The momentum build quality is very bad. I went to try them on, sound very good but cheap build quality. Do not get momentum for the gym as I had the 3 and they broke due to sweat
Why do I keep hearing this? I have a pair that has held up to being tossed around and worn in the gym five days a week. Zero issues. What are people doing?
1. The 3 and 4 have very different builds.
2. Even if they didn’t, neither is sweat resistant.
These are not meant for the gym. There are gym-focused headphones for this. But if you sweat a lot, earbuds would probably be a lot better (which is what I do, BTW, a pair for QuietComforts from 2020), since most have an IP## rating. You want something with at least an IPX4 rating.
@@NorbReviews most over the ear headphones are not meant for the gym, lol. Sorry, but I’m far from a noob when it comes to headphones or audio equipment. The build quality is fine. They aren’t as rigid as the earlier models, as they use different materials. To say they have bad build quality is laughable. They hold up better than any Beats or Skullcandy cans that most young people have. And the sound quality is far superior.
Bose has a muddied midrange and they kind of always have in their products. Mostly because they fill their mid to low end too heavy while leaving the upper range sharp yet still not detailed. These particularly have a sharp high end. I’m assuming to compensate for the heavy low end. But these are way exaggerated with bass.
If someone is looking for a great hi res set or even a faithful reproduction of the original audio, the Bose aren’t doing it.
I don't get why people buy over the ear headphones to use at the gym. Like 80% of them are not meant for that, just buy earbuds.
@ I agree. I happen to use mine the last few months bc less ppl bother you, lol. Not everyone notices you have earbuds in. Plus sound quality is better and more dynamic.
I had the Bose. They are definitely more comfortable, lighter and have deeper ear cups. However I returned them for the Momentum 4 and am so glad I did. The sound is night and day for me. I customization and personalized audio setting is amazing. The battery life is something I feel like people take for granted. They legit last for weeks between charges with pretty heavy use.
the momentum 4 are bass heavy headphones. bose much more netural sounding .
if you love shit tons of bass , who am i to argue .
Sounds like someone got some money for saying stuff. Most of this is not totally wrong, but the chosen language seems skewed to fit an agenda.
I love the confidence in my ability to get sponsorships, but you overstate both my influence and profit drive.
1. I bought these with my own money. (I almost always do, and if I don’t, I state that clearly.)
2. I’ve never once communicated with anyone from any of these companies or their representatives.
3. If I had, I would be legally obligated to disclose that relationship.
4. Even if I wasn’t obligated by both TH-cam and the FTC, I would still say something if any sort of recompense had happened because, as a viewer, *I* would want to know this.
No, I’m just a guy who owns these, does this as a hobby, and is sharing his honest opinions. I also just like to make the kind of reviews that I’d personally want to watch.