Kaby Lake 7700K VS. Skylake 6700K for GAMING! Core i7 Showdown
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- The Kaby Lake Core i7 7700K from Intel is finally here! Today we pit it against its predecessor, the Skylake Core i7 6700K, in a suite of eight different benchmarks to compare their gaming capabilities.
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Kaby Lake 7700K VS. Skylake 6700K for GAMING! Core i7 Showdown
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1 FPS gain??? shut up and take my money
bwahahaha
Holy crap, 1 fps increase at 1440? Must.buy.now!
RoboDog hahaha
This is why console is better. Pc hardware is obsolete ever 6 months and you have to buy a new one.
D Johnson you don't have to buy a new one. but if you have a mental problem that want everything updated. then you have to buy it for the sake of your mind
yep, many people are playing on ~5 y/o hardware just fine, and with the way mc and sony are doing things right now, consoles are by no means better. if anything, pc has more compatibility for software, because the same will run on a wide range of hardware, whereas you need to buy several consoles to enjoy just a small range of console games. of course, if you are fine with as little games as there are for one console - that's you.
on a related note, console games are on average *much* more expensive than pc games of the same tier, taking into account steam sales, gog, humble bundle etc.
D Johnson are you fucking that dumb? Skylake was released basically a year ago. This new CPU brings a few fps more to the table compared to last year. You definitely don't have to upgrade your CPU if you have a 6700k. A GPU also has a pretty long lifespan as something like a 750ti can run most games at 30-60fps in 1080p (that consoles have been struggling to do forever). You don't have to upgrade to this...
lol 0-2 frame difference, lets all hope Skylake gets cheaper.
Brendan Branson I'm pretty sure both are the same price.
watch the ebay sales they get big drops there
2 fps difference must buy now
derpsalad Right now they are, but in the future Skylake might drop some like how a lot of 1070's right now are $50 cheaper than at their launch.
Brendan Branson it was gpu bound
i am so happy i preorderd the 7700k so much better then my 6700k
it was sarcasm
Jarno lol W
Idiot...
read my other comment -_-
Jarno yes, you will get hugeee gain
NOTIFICATION SQUAD
Notification missed squad!
Im not in the "NOTIFICATION SQUAD" i just dont have a life and press Ctrl+F5 once every 5 minutes
Paul's Hardware MY HERO
Where u at?
L I T
now i would love to see i5 7600k vs 6600k
Probably would be pretty much the same thing as seen here...
makes no difference. That's it. Wait for Zen
TheDandi when is it supposed to come out again?
AlternateEdit same shit will be other name clock
TheDandi no difference in "Gaming" unlike rendering and other applications most "gamers" won't use even Zens fps in most games will be the same IF you have the same graphics card - result will vary if you test without graphics cards I am suspecting Zen to take the lead there and this is great for Laptop users
The folks at Intel haven't RYZEN yet...
Sorry
Generic Green Squid Lol
intel the only chip set that fucks us over every year with there 5% gains
Snliner Please learn basic English grammar and this is only an optimisation, it fixes some problems with skylake and allows for some better overclocking. besides it is the same price, and cannonlake is releasing late 2017...
It is still a very small increase that they are advertising as a next generation CPU (7700k after the 6700k). What is coming out later this year is irrelevant.
intel is the fifa of chip set manufacturing^^
Snliner i dont see 5% here gain even 7700k are higher clocked for 300mhz
***** boi are you fucking dumb look at 3d fire mark you fucking dumb nut
0:53 ...and its direct successor the Skylake 6700k.. I think you goofed there Kyle old pal
he dun goofed
t3mb3 Roasterd
didnt you know? 6700k is newer than 7700k :XD
he meant predecessor
he meant processor
What about seriously CPU intensive games like Cities Skylines
or arma3 or ark
DERPotato i7 7700k can have 5Ghz stable
Kaby Lake's OC potential seems to be a good choice for CPU intensive games. Arma 3, Ark, Cities Skylines, Planetside 2. Like when your CPU is fully loaded and forces you to sub 40 FPS...
Finaly something reasonable to retire my i5-3570K.
Total War Warhammer ????
You mean games nobody plays?
still happy with my 4790k :)
lol same and I have yet the need to overclock it
4790k here too! Long Live the 4790k, overclock it to 4.8ghz and this CPU will go along with these new CPUs'! We don't need to upgrade until maybe year 2025 LOL!!!
Theodore Cruz i once overclocked it because i tryed to speed up rendering. i turned the clock back from 4.4 to 4.0 ghz because it was a bit loud.
Same here. 4790k with sli 780 ti lol
Saaammee
TH-camrs 30 minutes ago: HEY I HEARD YOU GUYS LIKE KABY LAKE VIDEOS
No hype here guys, gaming performance is still the same... *ALL ABOARD THE ZEN HYPE TRAIN! CHOO CHOO!*
From the leaks I have seen about Zen, It falls short of the i7 6700k in gaming. It does real well with Handbrake and other heavy workloads but fails short imo in gaming.
John Totten Improvements from Skylake to Kabylake is minimal compared to AMD's FX series to Zen. Its a huge feat for engineering and consumers.
that's cause the engineering samples in all those leaks are clocked at about 3.3 ghz. clock for clock they're as fast as a broadwell-e cpu, and therte's rumours that they're getting 5 ghz on air... the ipc isn't gonna wreck intels, but we might get more cores at a lower price, and it should finally bring prices into a sort of reasonable territory again. cause the performance per dollar hasn't changed a bit since sandy bridge...
Roberto don't be a Intel fanboy it just makes you look stupid. The market needs a second company in the high-end CPU business.
Have you completely forgotten that zen will also be way more affordable? Intel releases horribly priced CPUs, and people are excited to see AMD back in the game because we all know they're the king of budget, the more competition the better for all of us
Remember when PC and tech related videos used to be 5 minutes long & to the point, without cringey jokes, fake shocked faces, clickbait titles that make it harder for you to find the video later on and not 10-20 minute long vlogs? And because of all that simplicity much more enjoyable to watch? Ahhh, the good times.
Intel is like the Apple of processors they should go ahead and just name it Skylake S.
and with their pricing
love the short videos
quick and on point
Wow what a horrible upgrade
Zer0 Gravity yes
ok
***** Just shows how intel doesn't have any competition
im over here with my haswell i5 like eh still works for 1080p
The i5 6600k is only aorund 6% faster than the i5 4690k... so its not like you are missing much :P
wapted 4690k costs more than 6600k here
+Olter Then dont buy it xD
Am still rocking my i7 4770k :P
Haswell is still plenty capable though. Next gen performance increases are usually too small to upgrade every 1 or 2 generations. Ive been running my i5 4690k since release and haven't seen any reason to upgrade... no performance issues, nothing. I'll probably do fine on it for another year or two.
benchmark starts at 3:01 no need to thank
I liked this review. Short and sweet with details and no chitter chatter involved. Thanks BW!
I wonder how much of a difference between the i7 3770k and the 7700k
Galahad 85 quadrillion fps
Galahad not much really. remember if you overclock, you'll get similar results.
Galahad the scaling gets worse at higher clocks, 3770k and 7700k/6700k underclocked at 3GHz the 7700k/6700k will pull far ahead, at 4GHz Sky/Kabylake will still performs way better but the difference will get smaller. Theoritically if you were somehow able to get a 10GHz 3770k and 10GHz 7700k it will perform exactly the same.
if both will be at same clocks then 7700k would be in the lead by quite a decent number, just how 5.0 GHz I7 4790k is weaker than 4.4GHz I7 6700k , the thing why is that happens is generation of Intel, 1000 is first, 2000 is second, etc, intel usually make 3~5% performance boost per generation or so they say, however, i myself confirmed that in 3dmark, here you can see by yourself I7 4790k@5.0GHz + 980 ti got 10332 physics score www.3dmark.com/cg/3429619
another 5.0Ghz got a score of 10095 www.3dmark.com/cg/2817314
@4.9 10183 www.3dmark.com/cg/2925481
@4.8 10091 www.3dmark.com/cg/3040107
let's just assume that another guy with 5.0GHz which score is as high as 4.8 either hit thermal limit or have a really bad chip,
now let's look at the I7 6700K results (sorry I7 7700K isn't there yet, it's brand new after all)
@5.2 GHz 12341(jesus christ he are insane) www.3dmark.com/cg/3389417
@5.0 GHz 11761 www.3dmark.com/cg/3535956
@4.9GHz 11592 www.3dmark.com/cg/3495529
@4.6 GHz 10805 www.3dmark.com/cg/3373459
@4.4 GHz 10588 www.3dmark.com/cg/3238380
stock I7 6700K @4.2(due to turbo boost) got 10178 www.3dmark.com/cg/3587224
another stock I7 6700k @4.2 with 10075 www.3dmark.com/cg/3437856
that's about it , please remember that intel provides performance per each generation, because here we seeing stock I7 6700K being as fast as 4.8GHz I7 4790k , 7th generation (in our case 7700k) should have even better performance than I7 6700K , but only slightly, because it's only 1 generation ahead of it
if you interested about exactly I7 3770k though, it's score usually around 9k at 4.8~5.0GHz clocks, here are 2 examples -
www.3dmark.com/cg/3004100 9471 @4.9
www.3dmark.com/cg/3134742 9386 @4.8
// p.s. , i myself have I7 6700k, & it's clocked at 4.7Ghz, but it's score is sadly 10433 , the case of that is probably temps which often hit 90, but that can be fixed only if i will buy noctua fan, however if it's my chip, then it can't be helped - www.3dmark.com/cg/3840074
i use a 3770 somtimes lol
I probably won't upgrade my i7 4790K until consumer i5/i7 processors are 6 core and above 4.7 Ghz stock.
AbyssmalAngel Is your cpu good because I'm about to upgrade from a i5 4690
AhhahahhhhhhaaahahahahahhhhhA XD Lmao!
William Burgoon My processor is doing just fine. Still runs like a scolded dog.
William Burgoon I would stick with the 4690 for now honestly, still a good processor.
i would agree, don't upgrade from 4690 because of gaming.
This video was informative and fun. Thanks, Bitwit.
Man Kyle I can not get enough of that led strip commercial, Good, creative content!
And I literally got an i5 6600k for Christmas for streaming and videos...
Vexolyte More than capable processor for that. Pair it with a good cooler, fast RAM, and a solid overclocking mobo, you're set. :) even for rendering 1080p videos it's works great.
MistahMOB you sound like you know a lot about PCs, can you DM me on twitter??
MistahMOB I have a few questions about i build I want to do,
I could help if you want ;p
Thy GamePlayer with questions?
Phew! I have an i7-6700k on my desk. Got a breather now.
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I've been waiting for this review.. thanks.
Awsome! have fun at CES ! cant wait for the vids !
Still waiting for Zen....
thanks for killing my buyer's remorse for the 6700k
Same!!!
2 years later, I'm really glad I bought my 6700k. I can no longer upgrade the motherboard to run in a ITX or microATX case but it's fine. Got myself a new Fractal Design S2 Vision Blackout case, 3k Gskill RGB Ram, and a deepcool Castle 240ex to get that "new" feel back with my Skylake PC. It's like getting some new tits and a new ass for your girlfriend.😂😂
@@GGtheRealest lmao that analogy
Great vid as always chuk, would have been nice too see some more cpu intensive games, Civ5/6 Anno , Shogun ect.
Just completed a build with a 6700k. Still feeling pretty good about it! Thanks Bitwit
LETS GO!! My 2600k survives another generation!
chiefdarklord69 same
Shut the fuck up!
2 years later, now your 2600k is ancient
@@Suspicious0ne 1 year later, the 2600k is still relevant
Intel: "Money, Money, Money!"
Thx for the "quickie" comparison vid !
You sir. I like your soundtrack choice ;)
btw hoping for a fast 1080ti vs amd vega vs 1080sli comparison when releases start coming out
Here's my guess: No tangible improvements other than power consumption.
The Uncanny One yep most numbers were 1 or 2 frames off
still rocking my i7 4790k!
its still a beast ! we can easily push it till 2019
ditto :D
Thanks for the Info my man! Settle my anxiety haha. Glad to keep my 6700k
Happy new year!
Kyle you are easily the most entertaining techtuber for pc related content imo.
Keep it up dude
Should have benchmark World of warcraft...
but it's shit
Phil Spencer it do not matter, WoW is good CPU benchmark ...
Alan W no it doesnt as it would be crushed.
ughhhhhh I just bought my pc with a skylake 6700K xD at least it's not a big difference for gaming, but what about video editing? i wanna know c:
the musical gamer I using a 1070
TØMAS nope it's a slightly overclocked 6700k
***** ik xd
TØMAS God dammit. I just built my i3 6100 rx 460 pc. Fuck me
it's really necessary to have gpu if want to do editing? I plan to buy 6700k and just use the integrated graphics processor.
Best video ever. Short and on the point.
I think I remember subscribing after watching your 6700k and 2600k comparison. Looks like I'll be keeping my 4.5GHz 2600k and upgrading my 980 Ti to a 1080 Ti when it comes out.
did you ever do it
GOLLY A WHOLE 1% INCREASE IN FPS.
I KNOW RIGHT WHAT A BIG DIFFERENCE IN GAME PLAY!!!
Isn't it possible to use Skylake CPU's on the new Kaby Lake motherboards?
im not sure about that, but i dont see why not since a Z270 can use a skylake chip
Aayush Yes. They both use the LGA-1151 socket.
Jaikwanza McKFC yes your right its the same pin set!!
Yes, but you might have to update your motherboards firmware.
not even going to lie kyle watching those comparisons was pretty awesome that music got me pumped!
@Bitwit link to your desktop background? Looks awesome!
I really didn't care about kaby lake but I do about the benchmark music
what is it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
pls
waheed khan You'll never know HAHAHAHAHAHAHA !
-__-
waheed khan It's called Speed Crashes by someone named Alexander Rybakov. I found it on Amazon for $0.89
Too bad there's a chance that review samples are cherry picked, but if all Kaby Lake processors are at least close to that, that'd be awesome.
Would be interesting to see how far it'll overclock in a custom loop!
As usual, great content! Keep it up!
Hope AMD zen is comparable but if it is not i will get an i5 skylake
It's AMD Ryzen and benchmarks of it released despite it only being 3.3ghz at the time of testing. I think it will do fine as long as it's over clocked to about 4.0-5.0ghz because the issue is poor optimization and lack of multithreaded games.
smart man
Izaiah Pelky so how'd it go with ryzen
Basically Kaby Lake is overpriced trash. Let's hope Zen is worth it.
It'll probably be closer to current intel processors rather than an upgrade since AMD has fallen behind. Hopefully it will make them competitive again since older and newer processors have been about the same in performance. Maybe lower some prices too.
I'm not a AMD fanboy when it comes to gaming CPU's but I actually want Zen to kick Intel's ass. There's no excitement in the land of desktop CPU's right now.
yay short and sweet. good luck at CES!
Thanks a bunch! This was enlightening. I came looking because the 7700k is actually cheaper than its predecessor on Amazon at the moment (due to a sale) and I am looking to upgrade my CPU. The closeness of the frame rates tested tells me that's probably a safe move.
If I may make a suggestion for testing, however, there are certain games that are incredibly CPU intensive that I would really like to see in the comparisons to see if the more intensive the game is on your CPU, the greater the disparity? One such game would be Arma III, as on full settings that game and its 270+ Kilometer multiplayer maps will devour all of the power in most CPUs.
Would like to see it Arma 3
HOLY CRAP 4.9GHZ AT 1.136 VOLTS?!!!
Addison Kwong IKR? I have my 6600k @ 4.5 with 1.35 volts...
lol and I thought my 6700k @4.8 with 1.38 volts was good :(
I have my 6600k at 4.8gHz with 1.295 volts
+Michael Gee right
Addison Kwong can I email a picture of my bios to you? can't reply with a picture
hey mate, great stuff love your videos, you should see if you can include Space Engineers in your gaming test line up cause it is pretty cpu bound
Glad you used the 1070. That;s the GPU I have and I was contimplating a 6700k vs 7700k, perfect video for me!
I literally bought the core i7 6700k last month ._.
Well I will still be upgrading to the i7 7700k from the i5 4670k
GRIZZLY_GUY why?? Won't the 6700k now be cheaper and is basically the exact same cpu??
because being that I am still young enough to live at home, and therefore have no rent or anything, I have extra cash to throw around, and would rather go with the newest and greatest
GRIZZLY_GUY I think you mean newest and same and before ?? why not wait for zen at least it has an actual profomance buff and a good price? I mean I'm not tell you how to spend ur money but y not be smart about it.
well, I'm expecting zen to be significantly better than previous AMD CPUs, but on par at best with kaby lake. And Kaby supports more upcoming tech compared to Skylake, also since Intel almost never lowers prices of their CPUs, I will just pay the bit more for the Kaby lake
That CPU of yours is still solid except if you're looking for hyperthreading.
thanks for the review
Hello, nice vid Bit, I do have a question though, can you use a Kaby Lake processor on a Z170 motherboard or do I have to upgrade that too?
I suppose the price difference will be so small that people will buy kabylake from now on anyway. Am I right?
comedyman112 ya. Thing about that is people are waiting for zen. Which has proven formidable against skylake
comedyman112 Unfortunately there are some people in this world who we call "sheep", they buy new products for the trend. Even if it has no difference. This ranges from CPUs to phones (looking at iPhone sheep)
Nah it's Probably going to be more on par with Haswell Lol
I bought a 6700k to put into one of the new Z270 boards, why did I do that? To keep my windows 7 =)
Try it against a i7 3770K. You won't see any difference there either. Thrust me.
It will be a fuck ton of difference there is already vids buddy.. sorry, your old thrash PC isn't high-end anymore :P
Draegbeast lol
Buddy i saw the videos, thats' why i said that there is no difference. Surely maybe a brief drop of 5-7 fps in some tripple-A games but still. The point is that Intel isn't providing major reasons to upgrade like it used to. E.G. From singlecore to dualcore made huge difference... or from 1.2 ghz to 2.1 ghz made a huge impact... but nowadays gambling for 5-7 fps more won't cut it anymore. :)
Obvious troll. We all know Intel's IPC is lacking every generation.
I love your content bit.
Please do a part 2 with more of CPU intensive comparison like Cinebench, Video Rendering etc.
pointless? Just overclock your 6700k :/
...overclock the 7700k!
Got mine to 5.1 ghz stable with 7700k😀😀😀
7700k is a joke
You see that it isnt having any performance upgrading but you need to pay 50 or more dollar for the 7700k.
this video was really well paced
2:48 - 2:57 is the reason why i subbed... thanks for another informative video :)
Just fine with my Skylake build for another couple years running at 4.8 stable, 32gb ram and a 980 ti classified waiting for a 1080ti this Summer.
3:00 for benchmarks
Don't worry, you're the first 'tuber to actually do this comparison in my subfeed. As expected! Stay classy!
thank you very much for this video 😊😀
I love that Merchantman background
Well I kinda expected this since they are both about the same price on amazon. I upgraded from i5-6500 to the i7-7700K.
Probably the only youtube advert I've ever lol'd at!
You are the ONLY reviewer who DID NOT USE A 1080 for testing. I PRAISE you for doing this because not everyone sees the need or has the pocket book for a 1080. THANK YOU!
It would be great to see a comparison in regards to productivity like Photoshop or video editing.
what song were you using for the video that you posted on Jun 6 2015 when you were upgrading your friend's computer
im getting the i7 7700k next week. im finaly upgrading mb/ram/cpu from a i5 2320. its starting to show its age in games like bf1.
AWESOME JOB kyle Short but what i need to know
In my recommended section right now there are 5 videos about Katy lake which were just uploaded around 49 mins ago lol
best rock benchmark ever Kyle! if only you posted the name of it so I can get it at audio micro or sound cloud.
I liked your gaming comparison BUT I think the ideal comparison between skylake and kabylake would be in terms of CPU intensive benchmarks, like render time, cinebench etc... I hope you would cover that in the next video.
What type of connector is that at 01:32? The silkscreen says USB2, but I've never seen that kind of connector on a motherboard.
Question, Why doesn't the cablemod show the controller on the website but it does in the video? And how would I change the color without it?
hello i think i saw an external dvd/bluray drive on your desk/table. Ive been looking for one of those (pref bluray) but can you tell me if it is in fact a dvd/bluray external drive and your experience with it.
Hi Kyle, what about 7700k vs 4790k? I got a 4790k oc'd at 4.5ghz, paired with GTX 970 reference, would it be worth the money for me to upgrade to kaby? Or should i stay put and wait for the next couple of generations? Or maybe AMD zen?
Kyle, little stup question - is z170 chipset s1151 suitable for Kaby lake i5, i7?
yes if you update the bios
Can you do a comparison between the integrated graphics in both cards? The Intel HD 630 vs Intel HD 530?
LMAO! Loved the uv intro dude!
im now rocking a 10700k but i still have my 6700k rig and im still proud of it
Video starts at 3:20
question,recently i spilled coffee on the top part of my grafics card (the pcb) and i have no idea how to clean it, any ideas?
Still rocking i5 3470 @3.6. May upgrade sometimes in the future.
Oh wow I have the same Motherboard, but the Z170 for Skylake.. Z270 has moar lights, now I'm MAD!!!!!
Gday Paul great vid mate, juust a quuick question would you mind doing a test of these 2 CPU's in a MMO cauld Blade & Soul as the game is more CPU intencive rather then GPU. if so that would be awesome!! ide love to see the results as in this review you seem to only be testing First person shooteras.