How Fast is the Core i3 7350K? Is it an i5 Killer?
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Intel's new Kaby Lake Core i3 7350K is a budget friendly unlocked dual-core processor with Hyperthreading support and some mean overclocking headroom. Let's see how it compares to a much pricier unlocked Core i5.
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The only reason I didn't test the i3 against the i5 7400 is because I don't have one. Plus, I wanted to get this video up close to launch ^_^ Let me know if you guys want to see the 7350K against the 7400 and I'll make it happen if there's enough interest.
yeah do it
Bitwit I would love to see it
Bitwit yes please. i am indeed curious. great video Kyle. Way to keep the data and chuckles hand in hand.
Bitwit what's the voltage on the 6600K running at 4.6ghz??
Why aren't you ordering one right now???
if you're testing CPUs you should use Cities: Skylines as a benchmark
Or arma III
Microsoft Flight Sim X
Or, Bioshock Infinite, the latest F1 game, and CS:GO (with the user made benchmark for consistency).
ArmA3 is a decent benchmark for single core performance and cpu cache. It has poor hyperthreading support.
Civ 6 has a CPU benchmark. Can't vouch for it, though.
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i3 is worthless at 180 dollars... maybe 120 but not these Intel taxes.
would be perfect at the $100-$120 range.
That's why you just buy the 6100 and overclock it instead, extremely similar results.
Hopefully it will lower to that price when Zen pushes Intel's shit in.
toppsballer hopefully since zen will offer overclocking on all cpus
***** If Zen is any good I'm pretty sure asus will release some good mobos(I always run asus mobos) and I'll be picking up something in the $200-$300 range, , , Probably a Maximus IX HERO equivalent which should at least offer OCing and SLI/XFire.
$180? wow, I'm lucky. over the holiday l managed to snag a 6600k for $175.
damn dude you got a steal
Saw a 6600K for $190 during the Holidays. Got mine for $210.
I got one for 200 a month ago.
C. L. K it's always that price at micro center
***** No Micro Centre's in Canada or atleast not where I live. It averages $265 USD ($349.99 CDN) in Canada.
Doesn't quite make sense at $180 when it needs a huge overclock and an expensive Z board and an aftermarket cooler to compete with a locked i5 that can work with a stock cooler and a cheap motheroard and doesn't cost much more.
Intel clearly worried about Ryzen, now unlocked i3's.
no its a i3 killer.
K-Tech you are the problem
***** take a wild guess
ofc it's an i3 killer, it costs 170$.
$20 more for the i5-6500... I see no reason why 2 pick up the i3 7350K.
MoeDaTeaman Exactly.
MoeDaTeaman For fun I guess. I would like it just to overclock the shit out of it. Not gonna buy it still lol I'd rather buy the G3258 to do that type of stuff.
I5-6500 is $170 at micro center near me
I5-6500 Can be overclocked also though.
15-6500 won't perform as good as the 6600k as it cannot overclock. That means for $20 more, you will get practically the same as the i3... with tiny differences...
Question: Why does intel keep making 2 core chips when they are obviously inferior? Is it really that much more expensive to make 4 core chips?
peter poulsen a dual core cpu is just a quad core that has 2 cores that dont work. linus did a video about it
The same reason they make a chip for every $10 increment - market segmentation. It's all about squeezing every last dollar out of the customer's pocket.
The real question you should be asking is why do they disable hyperthreading on any of their chips. HT is just a trick they do with the instruction pipeline and the L2 cache - there's no reason it would ever not be able to be there on any of their main series chips.
perhaps the hyperthreading bits are hit and miss on getting to work in manufacturing.
Dual cores are broken 4 cores
Mr. Milky Not true anymore; i3, i5 and i7 chips all are produced on different wafers since the core chips began production - the cost savings of getting more chips per wafer are greater than the loss of the few chips that don't pass muster. Chips that don't spec out become lower end versions of the same chip now, unlike the old days when they would laser off parts of the die. The do still do that for GPUs though.
What about comparing it to a i5-3570k?
I would rather see an i5-4690k as that's still widely used, that or like a 4770k
Profatoe I was kinda hoping to see a cinebench run so I could compare it to my 4690k.
Iv been using a 3570K for about 4 years now, still don't see a need for an upgrade..so yes I would like to also see the 3570K vs the 7350K
you and me both bud, I'm still running every game at 60+ fps max settings :v streaming them at higher quality tho...thats an issue :(
Sweet, I suggest you upgrade to a 144Hz monitor if your GPU is up to the task. It's a night n day difference..
What's your setup?
Great video! Also the only real reason to get Kabylake is for optane.
As well as overclocking.
or if your coming from something older than skylake
NolanTheGamer Not necessarily
Muhammad Numan not really
NolanTheGamer skylake is still better price wise
$180 is "budget". Seriously? Budget? What is considered "high end" or even "mid range" these days? My quad core phenom only cost $40 when i got it and has no probs with a 670. Thats what i would call budget.(at least in my opinion)
when talking about intel, prices are always premium
Okay then.. How about a i5 3570 (non k) for ~£80. It is only slightly worse than this i3 here. I really can't justify the ~£100 difference for slightly better single core performance. I'm personally all about value for money and it makes no sense why someone on a budget would but this instead of scrolling through ebay to find a used i5 for £100 less. My advice is buy used if on a budget.
And btw same thing applies for gpu's. A Gtx 770 (£100) stomps over a 1050ti (£150) even though the 1050ti is £50 more!?
Do not forget that a gtx 770 also uses 230 W while doing that while the 1050ti contents itself with a mere 75 W.
@@phantomflame0658 lol idiot
190 for a Dual-Core in 2017!
I have nothing else to say about this....
I didn't know kyle vaped until this vid
Hunter Smith Same lol
I can finally take advantage of my Z170 mobo with that i3.... a while back I was stupid to buying Pentium G4500 thinking I could overclock it....
If I could actually buy one. It IS $180 and that's quite a lot considering my budget for my CPU when I bought the G4500 was like $100...
SlyFox well i have z170 too paired with g4400 and i overclocked it to 4,4 ghz
what a shit of cpu !! expensive shit, i3 7350k+this cooler costs same as i5 6600k + normal cooler
You do realise that ALL K-series processors come without a cooler?, you'd still need to get the same cooler (or better, given the heat given off by quad-core CPUs is typically more than dual-core ones)
SithBowman you realise that you need cooler for 60 or more dollars with this little shit of 170+$ if you want 5ghz and still you will got pretty hot cpu !!
$170 + $60 is still just $230, cheaper than the i5 without a cooler at all, which means that there's some sense in getting the 7350K (which even on a low-profile air cooler, never reached any higher than 65 Celsius @ 4.8GHz)
SithBowman you can get i5 6400 for 170-180$ + cooler for 30$ !!And if you near microcenter i5 6600k are under 200$ too!! i3 7350k is to expensive and to weak no matter what ghz had!! it is stupid dual core with 4 threads
Mr11ESSE111 If you're making a case for
a more interesting match up would be i3-7350k vs i5-4430. it's kind of obvious that a i3 won't beat an i5 on the same 16nm process. but it might match a 22nm or 32nm i5,
Man I am SO done with Intel pricing! Please AMD kick them in the nuts! 'member when a core i5 was 199? This should have been 129 at max!
Revolt yay ryzen
This test is missing something very important: minimun framerates, because the I3 7350K even at 5 GHz is bottlenecking the gpu (as we can see in the average results at GTA V) CPU usage is higher in the I3 and this does the minimun framerate, drop too much every time that got spikes in the cpu usage (sorry for poor english)
180 is way too much for a dual core hyper-threaded...might as well get the 6600k
D Jay yeah especially because of the pentium g4560 being relatively the same, the i3 7350k is obselete
you mean 7600K* =d costs same as the 6600k in my country ahaha
You're killing me with this background musak :P I'm not sure, but I have terrible memories of being on hold for hours to that tune you used behind the benchmarks.
Im running a 6600k currently and I think it's a Problem that it has only 4 cores. I built a system 7 years back with a 6 core Phenom II and it felt like a downgrade when I got the i5. Now hyperthreading simply doesnt do much in most situations. Even in the best scenarios for Hyperthreading it's only a 20% performance increase on average so it simply cant replace 2 more cores.
Lars Kraus I'm in the same boat. OC my to 4.8 since I just want to to die so I can upgrade to a Zen build
silver350z94
well you could still sell it or use for another system to give a friend, relative or family member. It's a good chip and will probably last me a while as I dont play modern games but my old ones want lot of single core speed ^^
congrats on being the first i3 7350k review among my subscriptions
i cant wait for the hyperthreaded pentiums :D
SEMiN they're already out
5460
ross walker in my country are still not available!
Finally a review of this chip! Thank you Kyle!
Yeah I don't think the I3 7350k would handle my games.
IKR, arma 3 would kill it
Cool a5 a Moo5e that CPU would handle arma no problem. An i5 would be even better though
FlawlessPro xx then it must be the 3rd gen and older i3s that would suffer, I have a 6600k in my tower PC, but a 3rd gen I3 with some NVidia gpu in my laptop
Cool a5 a Moo5e i play lots of arma, nearly 1500hrs on it. i went from an fx 8320 averaging 20-25 fps in king of the hill. upgraded to the i5 6600k oc it to 4.6. launched arma 3 and avg 40 fps in the most intense battles and 70-90 outside of the center of king of the hill on tonoa. Beast of a cpu
FlawlessPro xx good because I have a i5 6600k in my main PC at 4.6 I will need to try it on there
Thank you for the comparison between physical cores and logical ones. I've always wondered about this question and how much of a performance difference would exist.
Keep up the good work and the killer humour, Kyle.
Cheers! :)
Next Video: Core i3 7350K vs a 1000 degree knife?
I could have told you this results from the get go. 4 real cores will always be able to proces more than 2 HT or SMT cores, its just the way SMT works.
How dafuq can i3 be better than i5?? Fucking clickbait if same gen.. LOL
TechHouse Watch the video?
Isaax Sure but i said if it is same gen i3 and i5, it cant be i5 killer...
sure it can, if you compare a overclocked chip vs a stuck chip
John Same number of threads doesn't mean that it also has same number of cores. GTA V and rendering tests are enough for me. That is cpu power. And why would Intel make 60-70$ cheaper chip to perform same like the most powerful i5? I am not a billionaire but i just said that it is clickbait since i3 can't be i5 killer.
Who said i3s were i5 killer? If you have eyes use them. The video title clearly says "i5 killer?" with a question mark. Since the unlocked i3 is clocked higher than an i5, many would assume the i3 would yield similar performance to an i5. And this video answers those question. Hence the question mark at the end of the title of the video. If you have a brain, use it, else just donate it to somebody who can use it better. LOL
You're the first I've seen to put a processor to the test of all tests, which is video rendering. Kudos.
Aio's are extremely overrated
spending 100+ on a cooler would be much better spent on the cpu in the first place
Brian Gervais not really? They look badass and typically do better than air coolers, although I picked up a cryorig H7 for a different build and that may be one of the best I've seen regarding air cooling
Brian Gervais Only some. Most are really nice looking and really good at cooling, but really under rated. Like the Deepcool Captain Ex 120/240/280
lol ya nice looking, not a major factor for most people. Ive cheked reviews and such, seems like a good air cooler will perform similar to an aio that costs 3x more
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corsair h100i and Lucifer k2
cooled to with 1 or 2 degrees of each other
Targaryen's World thats great input to the conversation. troll somewhere else
Thank you for the quick video! you must have been the only one willing to do a video after CES, lol
Save urself the bad gaming experience and get a quad core CPU
Agreed.
Thought I could get by with a G4500 combined with a GTX960 budget build: BIG MISTAKE! If u are only gonna play titles from 2010 and below then it'll do just fine
Sometimes your fps will not change but you will see tons of stutter and freezes when the dual core can't allocate the game demands.
Crysis 3, GTA, Rise of the Tomb Raider.
I using E3-1220v2
C:
Okay, I know this is highly unlikely, but what if the 4C8T Ryzen CPU was like 200$, or even 180$ like this? That would be fucking amazing.
If i get the i5 7600k, would it work on a "Z170 ASROCK FATAL1TY Gaming i7"? It's the same socket, LGA1151? though the mobo only says it supports 6th gen i7/i5/i3/pentium/celeron processor. Would it still work if it's a Z170 board with the same socket? I want to know before deciding on a i5 6600k/7600k. Thanks.
Same Question AsRock Z170 Extreme 4
Jake Will Game it will work.
they made it compatible.
to all z170s
But it says on their website currently, it would need a BIOS update for it, and the mobo i have doesn't have a bios thing for the kaby lake yet, for some reason, and i don't know how i can update it if it doesn't have the update, and if i just buy it, i cant put it in or the computer won't start with a different processor that needs new bios to run, so how do i do that? I don't want to buy a skylake processor just to update the bios for a kaby lake processor. How do i update my bios if the mobo doesn't have it yet (when the bios comes out eventually) when im using the processor that can't work without the bios update? I don't get it. If i get the 7600k and need a bios update, how can i update it if it doesn't start when i put it in and start it to update it?
You forgot to mention that the i3-7350k will actually end up costing more than an i5-7400 setup after considering that it'll require a Z270 motherboard and an aftermarket CPU cooler while the i5-7400 can just be paired with a B250/H270 motherboard along with it's stock cooler
kyle vapes???? 7:06 to 7:16 in the back
Alvaro Saenz Probably vapes concentrates.
You said that two cores and two threads can't match the performance of four physical cores, but the i5 6600k has four physical cores AND four threads
I3 at 5 GHz Whaaaa?
I just built a gaming computer and it was totally worth it! :) It's got an i5 6500, 1060 3gb, 8 gigs of ram... it's fun! Loving it
GTA 5 doesn't like hyper-threaded CPUs anyways.
I know, but take an i7 5960x and disable hyper-threading...you will see a pretty big gain in fps, even more so for SLI and Crossfire use cases.
Jnan Mckenzie Fallout 4 juse all 20 Threds of my i7 6950x 😉
Geht DInixo My i5 has 40 threads. 😉
Yanteus Maximus What?
I was excited when our 990 mHz pc was replaced with a 2.66 Ghz core 2 quad-core.
The I got excited when I replaced that with a 3.5 Ghz i5 quad core.
And now we're not only approaching, but very effectively crossing the 5 Ghz line. Truly a great time to be alive.
Why are all the Intel rabbits getting exited to be hitting 5ghz? Something AMD has been able to do since Bulldozer...
Moggy1000 Because this 5Ghz is on modern Intel IPC. What is even more exciting is that Zen can overclock to 5Ghz too.
Zen will OC a lot higher than 5Ghz...
Bulldozer at 5Ghz still outperformed by Intel XD
My point was is that bulldozer is 6 years old
Which generation? Do a year by year comparison... bulldozer 2011/12
A direct comparison between the 7400 and the 7350k with slight overclock or even just turbo would be very interesting
cmon zen baby
fowlerpower1 Right now zen is the magical unicorn nobody has seen lol smh
TheJerzyslugga is that why it was seen being used at ces?
JeremyM I'm talking bout legit specs and pricing buddy...
TheJerzyslugga well no one has a video of someone on a unicorn so
+JeremyM You just proved his point
I remember a video in which someone said that reviewers which don't show Kaby Lake CPU temperatures while overclocked can be somewhat persuaded or influenced not to show them. But thank you for showing us that there is no way to see the temps. I hope that we will see them in a follow-up comparison with the i5 7400 / i5 6500 / i5 6400.
Nothing exciting here.
I imagine getting this thing on a sale would be a steal. Great for a budget gaming system..
You're one of the only Tech Tubers that makes the stuff before the end results actually interesting to watch :P Love ya
Kyle, could you make a video about overclocking? like explaining how much voltage you should add to hit what speed and what temperatures are safe for the chip and how to check stability
Interesting video. I'd like to see a video comparison of all available CPUs in a specific price range where marked down previous gen prodcuts are included and competitor products are included.
THanks for all the info, appreciated, keep it up Kyle *thumbsup* also enjoy your sketches.
It would be a steal at 100, a really good deal at 120-130 but at 180, there are better options out there. This could be a killer chip on the used market in a year or two though. I could see these going for 50 on ebay by then.
I would love you to include a code compile test in your cpu benchmarks.
The i3 w/ a Z270 board and $30 cooler is prob the same price or more expensive than pairing the 7500 or 7600 with a B250 or H270 board.
I'd like to see the difference in a real world situation with numerous background apps running. Like Steam, Origin, Teamspeak, etc etc.
i like your limitless rdta plus in the background
man I'm from Brazil and I always what your videos and they are awesome!! Nice Job!
If this CPU was $130, I'd be all over it, but at the current asking price, it is just silly...
You have to have an expensive motherboard to make it work, by the time you have all that gear, another $50 for a i5-6600K is not, or should not be a stretch... This CPU simply makes no sense at $180...
I kicked 2-core processors to the curb a while ago after I got a Core 2 Duo a month before Intel announced i3/i5/i7's for Apple (Christmas gift). After 3 years of trying to do video rendering on a Core 2 Duo basically vowed to never go below 4 physical cores and preferably hyperthreading.
Really great video Kyle!! The video is very informative and tells us most if not everything we need to know about the potential of this new unlocked i3 Processor!
Keep up the greaaaaaaat work man! :D
Good video, Kyle. I like the less scripted and longer videos much more than shorter and heavier scripted videos.
On the 7400 comparison, plz dew.
I'm surprised you got one already. thanks for the video.
Would have been interesting if you also included results with HT turned off.
I also wonder at what Ghz does extra cores start to matter less. I mean if 4 x 4.6Ghz is better than 2x5Ghz, where does a quad core need to be Ghz wise to start to make a significant difference over a dual core?
I can definitely see this i3 redefining a new tier for gaming CPUs. i3 is now mainstream, i5 is now performance, and i7 is enthusiast.
It was great vaping with you!!!
Frame time numbers are also something to pay attention to. Even if the average frame rates are similar, the dual-core hyperthreaded CPUs tends to have more problems running a consistent frame rate than 4-core CPUs, which translates into games not running as smoothly.
6:20 DAMN INTEL YOU REALLY STEPPED UP YOUR GAME ON THOSE BASE AND BOOST CLOCKS... 235GHz must be nice.
Top notch video Kyle! Very informative. Keep it up bud.
at the mark of 11:40~12:00 minutes i genuenely thought that kyle was using the Kirk vs Columbus beat from ERB
Thank you for the review, I was really interested in the difference between i3 unlocked and i5locked because I want to make myself a new pc with one of these processors!
Nice vape in the back kyle lol prolly chucks the clouds bro
Great video brutha. I was very curious about all of this, so thank you
I like your big E-cig in the background :)
I really like the G3258. I'm hitting 4.6 ghz on stock cooler and 1.25 volts. It has been a great cpu for the money but I'm looking forward to a i7 soon!
Wow, what are the odds. Cool vid. Bought my 6600k for 200 bucks a few months back, just got a 7350k for 73 bucks and wanted to see how they compared. Cool video!
You got me excited there for a second and then GTA V and the video editing bench came up....
"purring like a tiger".... tigers don't purr.
Cool video! this CPU is definitely a good one to get!
It'd be really cool if you included the G3258, 7350k and 6600k. That way 2c vs 2c4t vs 4c. It would allow us to see what extra threads really do.
how much non-overclocking motherboards for kaby lake cost plays an even bigger role.
i will be waiting for the Ryzen benchmark test, hehe
3:20... that Quagmire moment!
Man that is a sweet case in the back ... Dare i say Stormtrooper of my dream.
The thing that really kills this i3 for me is that you need a pricy Z series chipset to even overclock a "budget" cpu. It would make most sense to me to buy something like a locked i5-7500 and pair it with an inexpensive motherboard. It would probably cost you less and in the end you would have a real quad core.
When I was done watching this video I forgot everything you just said; I was too busy looking at your RGB keyboard
When I built the PC I'm using now, I went with an FX-6350 simply because there were no unlocked Intel chips at that price without going a few generations back (and I was iffy about using used parts at the time). Obviously, I'd go with a locked Intel chip over anything AMD currently has on the market now, but this is good for competing with AMD at the lower end when AMD actually starts releasing new processors. Even if Ryzen can't compete at the i7 level, it should still be great for budget builders, and this will help Intel compete in that market.
Still going to stick with my 4430 and 270x for now. Still happy with the performance.
If you retest you should test it at stock as well. Would be very interested in seeing how it stands at stock.
Being honest for my next builds I won't be just going 4 core. If I want to listen to Google music or skype or any sort of browser in the background will greatly impact performance
still getting 80+ fps with my i7 2600 and GTX1070
Ramiro Sandoval impressive.
Man, the reason why the G3258 was so damn good was because it gave monster per core performance for $70. Stock cooler and just setting the multiplier you can easily reach 4.2-4.4ghz. But that's the problem, the 7350K is $180, that's A TON. That is the price of an i5 6500 at my local Micro Center!!!!! I'm a huge fan of having cheap dual core processors that overlock like nothing else (gives me nostalgia tbh). Key word: cheap. $70 is cheap, $180 just isn't. And Intel is really just being a blood sucker for having it "unlocked". Let's be honest, the i3 should've always been unlocked and this processor should be marketed to the $110-130 market at the most!!! I can't wait for Ryzen to come and at least drop all the CPU prices! WHO IS WITH ME?
The i3-6100 for $120.00 overclocks to 4.6ghz on stock voltage. ASrock Z170 motherboard's still utilize the (sky oc) bios. Even the latest bios still enables non K over-clocking. For $120 oreven less for a used one, The i3 combined with a a GTX 1050 Ti would be a fantastic low power1080p gaming rig
This basically ends up proving what many would've guessed. It holds up in a lot of games, but for media, a thing I'm paid to shoot and render, more cores equals better performance. If I didn't need it for work, I would've honestly looked at the i3.
Micro Centre has been selling the 6600k for $180 USD for a while now so if you can then check that out.
when you were talking about deciding between the i5 6600k and the i3 you mentioned the potential price difference. You mentioned that the i3 goes for around $170 while it's i5 6600k counterpart goes for $250. I just built a new gaming rig with the i5 6600k and was able to go to my local MicroCenter and pick it up for $200 after tax while amazon had the same processor for $225 before tax. If spending an extra 50 dollars on a processor will break the budget wait a week or a month and shop around for a deal. Many times there will be bundle deals for instance MicroCenter gave $30 dollars off of a compatable motherboard with the i5 6600k. Just throwing it out there that it does pay to shop around and you might be able to get some good deals and not have to settle for something with less performance for almost the same price.
Thanks Kyle this sold me on my GFs build
This CPU is amazing for gamers that play titles like: LoL, Dota, CSGO and Hearthstone etc. There are some great GPU's aimed for those users aswell. Cheap and efficient build that crushes a lot of mainstream titles.
would've been somewhat informative if you'd have compared it to the i5 6400/7400 cause it's like 20USD more - you also could've emulated the speeds of the 6400/7400 with your 6600k chip...