The Best Gaming PC Parts to Keep during an Upgrade! 🚧 Build Fix Ep3
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- The Best Gaming PC Parts to Keep during an Upgrade! 🚧 Build Fix Ep3
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0:00 Welcome to Build Fix - May 2024 - Powered by PCPartPicker
0:59 How Build Fix Works
1:30 Build 1 (Upgrade) - Gutting Nembesis’ 2017-era Gaming PC (UK)
12:01 Build 2 (Upgrade) - OnarTheMage needs a new GPU, SSDs, and AM4 Reassurance
20:13 Build 3 (New) - All-Out ASUS ProArt Build from anthonygoody4956
26:40 Build 4 (New) - lootjunior’s near-perfect game development build needs a GPU swap
⚒ Build Upgrades
Build 1 - submitted by @Nembesis
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My Upgrades: Gut it, save case/psu/fans, maybe AIO, GPU for now
Build 2 - submitted by @OnarTheMage
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My Upgrades: GPU Upgrade to 7900GRE/7900XT/RTX4070S, Move 5TB HDD and 1TB NVME to external enclosures
4TB SiliconPower NVME SSD ($225) - geni.us/C2h8qo
4070S - www.newegg.com/zotac-geforce-...
🆕 New Builds
Build 3 - All-Out ASUS ProArt Build submitted by @anthonygoody4956
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My Upgrades: What if we remove the ProArt tax to see how much extra it costs…
Build 4 - submitted by @lootjunior
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My Upgrades: RTX 4080 Super
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5:35 - Paul, I think you should pitch Thermalright's spamming of budget-friendly air coolers (Peerless Assassin, Spirit, Phantom, Spirit EVO, Assassin, Assassin X, etc.).
I've started employing Peerless Assassins for all my builds I sell and they're startlingly good for the price. It's crazy that the Spirit Evo approaches AIO performance at 1/4 the price without an AIO's long term reliability issues.
“Maybe I should have turned it upside down” going over most people’s heads! 🤣
I'm still on AM4, and will be for at least the next few years.
AM4 is crazy, I feel like it will be a long time before my needs exceed the capabilities of my 5700X
Honestly anyone who has an X3D chip on AM4 can probably just skip AM5 entirely
@@pptemplar5840 Same with me. I have a 5900X and a 6900XT in my main PC and it's more than enough for what I need.
Roger That! I had to 'Replace/Upgrade' my B450 Board, so $130.00 +Tax Cdn. for a New B550 Board vs. Minimum: $229.00 +Tax Cdn. for an AM 5 Motherboard!
AM4's longevity really has kind of backfired on AMD because it's made no one want to adopt AM5 at it's higher platform+DDR5 prices. By the time AM4 users really _need_ to upgrade you're most likely going to be looking at either AM6 or the dead end of AM5.
Socket AM4 has been amazing. In 2017, for around $1,000, I built an R5 1600/B350/RX580/16GB/256GB/650W rig. In 2022, I spent another $900 and am now running an R7 5700X/6800XT/32GB/1TB/650W system on the same B350 board. Loving it.
Making that 650w psu sweat I see. Maybe give that 6800xt a little undervolt, keep the psu happy and the system cooler and quieter?
I'm on AM4. my 5950x, 128gb ddr4-3200 is a beast of a 'workstation'. I'd say I'm going to wait until AM6 to upgrade.
@@102728 It's a gold rated EVGA PSU. But yeah, power draw concerns are what made me choose the 5700X; it only has a 65W TDP. Total system draw is around 320-350w, so close to 50% of what the PSU is capable of. 50% load is supposed to be around where PSU's reach peak efficiency. Everything is running great.
@@102728 6800xt and a 5700x is running just fine on 650W PSU. you could maybe push that system to 500W power draw if you went for it. With normal use you would se more like 400W max.
That is a great setup. I built my girlfriend a system that is close to this. rx6800XT, ryzen 7 5700x, B550, 64GB 3200 cl16 and 6TB of storage on a 750W corsair PSU.
If people want to go for a liquid cooler and not break the bank... The Thermalright 360 AIO's are $50-$60 (I have the Thermalright Frozen Prism 360 Black ARGB) and they are FANTASTIC.
I have the same one in white. While I was cautious at first due to the cost and monitored Temps quite a bit at the beginning, it really has done wonders for my 5800x3d and keeps her cool and unthrottled. So, yes it gets my approval as well!
@@Yuriel1981 Yeah, I had a 280mm NZXT Kraken cooling my 5900x and it was hitting 86C under load regularly... Looked around and most 360 Rads were $120+, so this and took a chance at it. 60's now, it's quiet, and only at $53! Love it!
Thermalright makes good shit I've bought some fans and air coolers all fantastic and way cheaper than anything else
Interesting series... Enjoy it and the fact that function is a bit more of a priority for you. Plus, your channel is still grounded in reality, this is rare on this platform.
Thanks for this. It’s like you read my mind.
Just looking at Passmark a few hours ago thinking “time to get a new system”
You can also get PCIe addin boards for M.2 slots, if that makes more sense than external enclosure/dock.
I wish. Every motherboard is two PCIe slots and 15 M.2 slots these days. Instead of a PCIe board for more M.2 slots, I need an M.2 card for more PCIe slots :(
(yes I slightly exaggerated how many M.2 slots, but my motherboard seriously only has two PCIe slots and the second is blocked by how large graphics cards have become. absolute waste of motherboard space to focus on M.2 slots instead of PCIe slots)
@@mjc0961 you do also screw the M.2 board down to the motherboard so it takes up more space than just the connector.
It can also be more complicated to make the M.2 to work with other things where PCIe is easy to work with for various applications (like you can add an M.2 addin board to PCIe).
It does seem like smaller PCIe lanes have been lessened to just use the space for more M.2 slots. Then M.2 can also be used underneath a big GPU where the GPU can limit access to PCIe slots if too close to the PCIe slots the GPU is using.
The total available PCIe lanes is also a limiting factor, so you already have a choice between a PCIe slot or M.2 slot for various positions on the motherboard.
About the PNY Verto 4080 Super. The PNY logo has bright white backlight that you cant turn Off. I recomend choosig another GPU. I have the non super PNY 4080 and i had to cover up the logo with black vinyl wrap. Had i known about the backlight i would have bought something else.
Snatch is one of my all-time favorite movies, Paul. Great reference.
This series, "Build Fix" are fun to watch. Cannot wait to see more from you Paul.
Those are some sweet builds and good advice, imo. Enjoy the trip to Computex!
FWIW: I use a Thermalright Burst Assassin ($23) with an additional matching fan ($6) for my 7800X3D and it's totally fine. It idles around 40*C and loads around 75*C under worst case scenario. It's crazy to me to spend $200+ for an AIO on a 7800X3D. I set PBO to max 85*C and CO -20mV to keep the temps down and boosts up. Remember the 7800X3D is only rated at 120W and actually runs around 90W under normal loads.
This episode is long! Awesome Paul!
Thanks Paul...
Relevant! Thanks!
I love all your content Paul your one of my favorite tech TH-camr thank you I've learned alot watching your videos
Love these series. AM4 Bless up!
Very helpful! ❤
That intro animation is so cool
No RGB, no bling. Just little AM4 that works great, keeps cool. No wasted $$$$.
Awesomesauce video Paul and Joe! Aw, i missed my Be Quiet build being featured.
Maybe i can get in that community post sooner. Lol
Caffeinator out.
My friend and I we're in the same spot a few days ago!! What a coincidence, haha. We have 8700k's and 1080's and finally have started feeling the age of our systems. We both went with 7800X3Ds but split off with the GPUs. I went with the 4080 Super and my friend went with the 7900XTX. Looking forward to comparing the systems in the next several weeks. Thanks for another entertaining video Paul! Been watching since the old Newegg TV days!
Thanks for looking at my build, You were right that I mainly wanted to know that I am on the right track. The GPU should have been a 4080 Super, I think pc part picker displayed it kinda weird. I think I might still go with that GPU as it has no coil whine from the fans according to reviews.
Cool !
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Hi! Thanks for not being a spam bot lol 😂
I just built an AM5 7950x. I think I am good for 10 years for now. With the 7900xtx, there is no need to upgrade for a very, very long time.
just realized you already uploaded and I missed the boat on getting help
Waiting for next gen isn't always the play IMO. Decided to upgrade to a 7800x3d this week because micro center has a decent deal on a cpu/mobo/ram bundle. Unfortunately I dont live near a micro center, but my dad does and he was planning to drive out soon to visit regardless. Currently on a 5600 but I wanted a new motherboard with more m.2 slots anyways so it made little sense to stay on am4.
Pretty sure am5 will get at least one more generation after 9000 anyways, I can always get that if its a major improvement.
True but as soon as they announce the new stuff everything “old” so get cheaper.
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Also, with new models coming soon, even if you're not super pumped with the newest hardware, they frequently lower the prices on the older generation. Definitely worth waiting.
The TeamGroup MP34 M.2 drives have DRAM _On the Drive_ , they do not use system ram for cache. The 2TB model has has 1GB of ddr4, and the 4TB model has 2GB of ddr4. The 1TB and smaller capacity drives have 512MB or less.
And I agree about the ProArt case. It's absolutely gorgeous.
17:12 the lexar nm790 gets in the 7000 range read/write speeds for just $20 more
Hello Paul, I always liked to use AMD Asus in my first PCs and I want to try Intel for, they are just as simple as configuring your system.
First, I would recommend users check the SMART status on SSDs before planning to migrate them. Most companies have free utilities to do this. (drive life is often reported in them) Many users can go 5+ years on a SSD due to light use, but power users may be near the life expectancy. This is particularly true with heavy VM use. (I go through drives every 18 months - 24 months in one system)
Second, many newer motherboards only have 4 SATA ports not 6. This was a problem during my last upgrade as I had to switch to a nvme drive for one (or buy a sata controller / hba)
that proart aio is super thick it's not just a 420mm rad
I don't know why more people aren't recommending the 12700k for how cheap it's been lately. Nothing from AMD or Intel even comes close to offering the same level of gaming and production for around $200. (even cheaper at $190 for a KF) It's currently my go to recommendation for anyone looking into an affordable mid range build and I've built 2 this week alone.
i know right you can buy it brand new for $180 and you get 12 cores, wtf
It's so tempting...but there is a drawback to going to i7-12700k, and that's power draw. Personally, I would need to upgrade my cooling solution, and that's going to tack on an extra cost. My PSU could handle that, but some folks would have to consider their power supply needs as well. The 12700k is a beast, but she's a hot and hungry beast.
@@hugeburger worth checking the mobo supports virtualisation as apparently some dont.
@@spacechannelfiver That is why I would check for which Motherboard supports it or not.
Yeah, I have one in my Be Quiet computer for my wife. It's plenty good.
And sometimes MC has great bundles with them.
Eh, to each there own.
I just got a 7900 xtx and ive been heavily debating on what i wanna do to replace my 5600x its been between the 5800x3d and the 7800 x3d but since i heard the 9000 series is coming out soon i really am tempted to wait for that so i can have the best. What would you recommend? (I am playing on 4k but im thinking of downgrading to a oled 1440p for the longevity)
Destroy old drives, or send them for recycling? And how to make them safe to recycle (not resale)
I have an AM4 rig, and the only reason I am shopping for a new pc is so that I can turn my current rig into a media/emulation server. Plus I want something smaller and a crapton quieter. My rig is big, bold, and LOUD!!! Since I have been running a Ryzen 5 2600/16gig 1197 ram/GTX970/850W PSU for several years, and am thinking about just getting a mini pc, as most anything I spend more than $300 on is gonna be better than my current rig. Don't play AAA titles, so if I go with a newer Ryzen with integrated graphics, it should be just fine. Nothing I play now stresses my GTX 970. That GPU got it easy, lol.
Hi Paul, a quick question, currently running a 5800x3D, 32gb 3600 ram, RX6950XT, on a MSI B450 Tomahawk, this is an upgraded system from a R2700 the only thing I didn't upgrade at the time was the motherboard, is it worth upgrading the MB to either a B550 or X570 ??? not planning the Jump to AM5 until I can't game on the current system ( that's all I do on my PC that and watch tech vids lol) your advice would be appreciated.......thanks in advance.. oh forgot to mention, with the prices dropping on AM4, is it worth going for a higher range MB??
Im on AM4 x470 I upgraded from a 3700x to a 5800x3d. I dont get pcie 4 but its fine only affects storage speeds. Also have an RTX 3080. Will be interesting I know now is not the time to upgrade to AM5 but from what I've heard the 4090 does saturate pcie 3. I guess I will need a AM5 upgrade before 5000 series seems like the timing will be just right. I can even just keep rocking the 3080 for a while until pricing improves.
That first build isnt far from my situation in late 2022. Back in 2020-ish, I upgraded from an i5-7600k to an i7-7700k/RX480 then finally in late 2022 I got a 7900X/32GB/6950XT build. It is great for 1440/165Hz gaming and video editing/rendering. I also have a RTX3070 Super. Maybe the ray tracing is better with the 3070, but the 6950XT gets about 20 more fps at 1440p
Seeing the curentr price of SSDs in the UK hurts. £0.046 per GB is shocking, a few months ago you could get them for £0.028 per GB. £57 for a 2TB gen 4 NVME, no DRAM cache but I really wish I had got one.
I would like a build video for a gaming computer that provides max power with minimal heat being output to the room.
I was skipped 😭 lol all good
9:56 6000 CL30 kits are miles better than 6000 CL32 kits for just $5-$10 more. 2x24GB 6400 CL32 kits are also a better option.
@@Audiosan79 Dude, DDR5’s CAS latency doesn’t matter. Sub timings matter a lot and CL32 kits are not Hynix kits…They have some of the worst sub timings you can find!
22:35 I'm also a fan of the Proart series. It looks nice! Picked up the 4060 version when it was on sale. Still a bit of a premium but the card is clean. Though I understand you can save a lot and I'd generally go that route for most components.
Considering I plan to get new am5 pc, but don't have enough cash now for decent gpu (4070/4080/5000 series), is it reasonable to get 8700G + MSI MPG A1000G PCIE5
psu use it year or 2 then get new cpu + gpu ? Single 1440p 144Hz monitor. ❤
Do spinning hard drives slow boot times for initialization? I have a 12700k with a nvme OS installation and it’s not the fastest to boot. I have disabled most startup programs.
With ProArt stuff you either want it or you're not bothered. I put the ProArt 4080 in my most recent build even though for LESS money I could get a 4080 Super from another brand. - but they're ugly. It just depends what you're willing to sacrifice I suppose!
If I remember right Greg Salazar did a video/build with a Geometric Future case and it did not go well, so yeah I'd say good call not going with that one
*Question open to all*
Paul, my PC gaming monitor is 1440p and supports HDMI 2.0 and DisplayPort 1.2. But, my GPU supports DisplayPort 1.4a and HDMI 2.1. What cable should I get? The best one to support my monitor or my GPU? I’ve been told, by word of mouth, DisplayPort is the best way to go. Thanks in advance!
Due to am5 being pricy, il probably only upgrade once the next gen of am5 mobos and cpus are out, so i can gef a first get am5 system since theyl likely be on special. When ryzen 2000 came out with b450, i got a rog b350 and a low end cpu for a good deal. Had 3 cpus in this b350, so il probably do the same with b650 when b750 is out.
I got real good Christening on my second build about PC building (first one went without a hitch, maybe because every thing was new) I wanted windows 11 and Windows 11 hated my hardware. So I went from AM3+ FX 8350 to an AM5 7950X. I wanted to keep all my working components and swap out the core components (CPU, Motherboard & RAM) and to keep my M.2 PCIe X4 SSD which had my Windows 10 OS, The plan was to install the new core components, boot it up in window 10 auto upgrade to 11 because it now has the hardware windows 11 wanted, that didn't happen. When I booted it up with the new core components Widows 10 became unstable I couldn't install the drivers, so I had to ditch the PCIe adapter and installed Window 11 on a new SSD. It fixed the problem to get windows 11 up and running and then was able to install drivers, but then all three my storage HDDs had I/O errors (even wanted to format a brand new HDD and windows couldn't find it to format it!) then I had to put the PC in Microsoft's hands (remote desktop Connection) to fix all the hard drive issues. Be prepared to ditch the OS drive and have Microsoft fix your storage drives. Windows 11 didn't like my HDDs from windows 10 and they don't play well together. The only things I didn't have problems with was the case, PSU, GPU that came over from the old build.
I upgraded over a year ago, I would have liked to have waited for the new line up of CPUs but FX 8350 8 core 8 thread at 4.2 GHz was starting to bottle neck and I was starting to want games it just couldn't run.
I have an i7 10700, paired with an evga 3060ti, 16gb of 3200mhz CL-16 ram, on an asus prime z490-a motherboard. I want to upgrade eventually, but I would literally have to start from scratch. I want to go to AM5 platform
I recycle my components by donating them to my dad, who ONLY plays Starcraft II and Sins of a Solar Empire.
Based choice of games
I was doing the same for a while. My dad played Warcraft, Warcraft II, and Doom 1 &2, mostly. My son and I were building him a PC with a 12100F and a RX 6600 recently. But, he passed a couple months ago, before all the parts arrived. We built the PC anyway and donated it to St. Jude’s Children’s Hospital, my dad’s favorite charity. 😢
planning on going either with a i5-13400F or a Ryzen 5700X to finally graduate from my geriatric 4th gen i5-4460. so which should i go for
I'd say zen 4 with like a 7600 even for the upgrade path, but if you upgrade only every decade or so it doesn't really matter. Between the 5700x and the 13400f, I guess the latter is a bit faster
@@102728 yeah i tend to keep my hardware running as long as they're viable. but yeah the 13400F is like 20 bucks more spensive compared to the 5700X and newer. and unfortunately Zen4 pricing here in the PH is all over the fucken place.
First, I bought another memory slot for 16GB a year ago bringing total memory to 32GB. Then I will need to upgrade the motherboard.
I#m still on a 3900x and i#m still very happy with it. Cyberpunk, Star Citizen, etc. all run like a charm and i rather wait for Computex to see if anything will be released that is worth the upgrade. Motherboard and memory prices are still a joke but might not change since people keep agreeing with those prices. Sadly Intel is no option anymore for the next couple of years and with AMD being the only supplier i am afraid that they will use their position now to ramp up prices even more.
Rather unlikely, but if any of you all want to keep using sata, or rather many sata, b500 series motherboards on AMD often offer 6 sata ports but the bandwidth of some of them are often shared between the second nvme and those sata ports. So It might be worth checking your manual about which sata ports to use. Although I don't know what it really does to. Speed or stability.
Prices? I mean? Spirit overlooker? Relief please!
1st upgrade: Prices are likely to drop on existing components after the new components are available. Sell you old computer except for the storage. You case looks great but has small noisy fans that do not move much air. Large fans are more efficient and quite. Consider a Fractal Torrent. Sell you monitor. Gaming at 4K takes a powerful CPU and will still have low frame rates. Pick an AMD CPU and GPU that have the price/performance you can afford.
We're going to be in a melow period of PC hardware I think... GPU wise, AMD won't have anything competitive probably at the upcoming 80 class or above, for probably 2-3 years, Nvidia launching the 50 series will just crush, which I'm really sad about, I just want competition.
Man mine was a i386 64 meg ram cpu swapped the case moved to a 486 dx2 128 megs of ram the boards were huge with riser boards. i started in the late 80s when floppys where 5 1/4 disks the old c64 systems then casett drives. those where the good old days. now its a ryzen 7800x3d gigabyte x670 board 32 gts ram 4 m.2s water cooled. whoa im old.
I am still Running the same MB "ASUS Pro WS WRX80E-SAGE SE WIFI II AMD WRX80 Ryzen Threadripper PRO" from last year. It's not dead yet.... LOL!
I am surprised you didnt recommend a 4090 for the $3000 budget guy. $2200 vs $2800 = $600 difference could have gotten a 4090. If anyone has $3000 to spend, that's pretty much the way to go.
Im still back with a Ryzen 5 5600 LOL It just works
Crazy that EU prices are inflated even more than US. Even though the Euro is worth like $1.75. Maybe its the shipping idk. But I just bought a 7900x3d for like $380, and in euros it's $419.99.
Extra nvme drives can also be put on a $10 PCI-E card when your mobo's slots are full. No externals needed.
& yes, lets put precious files on an OLD mechanical HDD. More prone to failure AND it might get dropped accidentally. Sheesh!
oh and lets not forget ati 64 meg video card now a msi 4090 on water too.
Geez, I can't even remember the last time I saw a community post. TH-cam does not show them on desktop or TV, and I don't use the mobile app anymore. Crazy how poorly integrated this feature is. I wish TH-cam would work on getting their site consistent across all devices instead of wasting time fighting a losing battle against ad blockers.
Can you tell me why people keeps buying full ATX boards, if they just uses one PCI slot???????????????????
$600 for ProArt could be spent on upgrading the 4080S to a 4090.
I like the look of proart, but not the price of most of proart.
With that third build I think the builder should go ahead and splurge on the case since it’s the single most important part of a PC’s aesthetic.
Though, I would definitely swap that AIO out for something else and spend the savings on a better PSU. $270 for an AIO on a 7800x3d, but less than half that on the PSU for a $3K PC is totally a meme thing for a first time builder, though.
You don't want to cut all the corners in your build on your PSU. A dodgy, dying PSU can take out everything it touches, and replacing it generally means rewiring the whole thing, assuming you got lucky and your mobo was spared. Also, never mix and match PSU cables.
On the upside, spending a bit on custom cables for your PC can be a great way to enhance that black/gold theme and tidy up cable management.
i will have to replcae everything for an Upgrade ,
PSU and storage usually lives on.
@@spacechannelfiver eehhh will have to go to gen 5 and psu will have to be upgarded via more watts needed for new hardware
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If u wait for pc parts to build, u will never stop waiting. Theres always something better coming out. Plus, u dont want to buy the newest things anyway. Why spend significantly more money for no reason
One thing that all the ripples that Nvidia is making with their movements with the 5000 series shows.. they will not launch below the 5080. Current grapevine talk is they will have a small number of 5090's to sell and will either paper launch the next card down 5080TI/5080 or will also make a small batch to sell in late December. That's it. Summer of 2025 is when the mid range everyone cares about is aiming for. Ohhh, and the 5080TI/5080 whatever they end up calling it will still only have 16GB of VRAM🤦🏻♂
Also, IMO most of the builds this week I'd swap the 4080S for a 7900XTX. Unless low power, RTX heavy games, and ai/niche professional workloads are goals, then there's very little reason to get the 4080S for $100 more. If we assume that the 8800XT will be $500 for exactly the same 7900XT performance, then buying a 7900XTX will become way more sought after and the better long run move than waiting or buying a 4080S. Even if the 8800XT shocks everyone and matches the XTX at $550, then a 4080S would be a terrible value compared to that and waiting would make the most sense here. Most likely things will fall in the middle, so I'd if you need more than 7900XT/4070TIS performance get the XTX.
The only thing I want to upgrade on my system is to get a 6800XT card and that's it. I am on AM4 with a 5800X CPU and 32 G ram on a B550 board. If I want to upgrade the CPU I will go to the 5800 X3D. Not looking to go AM5 at all for at least 3 years minimum before I consider building a new system. By then AM6 will probably be out. I refuse to use W11 so MS best try to keep W10 going for the now increased W10 usage as its W11 OS is being dumped and a lot of peeps are retrofitting W10. The only real problem I have with my system is the storage as the price for a 6TB nvme is too high so I am still using HDDs. Theya ren't bad nor are that that slow but I have to use two of them and really want a single nvme to do the storage of everything except the OS which is on a 1TB ssd.
The absolute hatred in Paul’s voice everytime he even looks at a liquid cooler. Especially if you’re dealing with a rad that big, it de tuff to get similar performance from air.
Airs so so much louder, they also completely block your view of the motherboard, they often limit your memory options. And that’s a lot of weight hanging off your socket.
Probably one of the best ways to save money aside from going b class with your board is an air cooler. They do get great performance per dollar but have drawbacks 🤷🏼♂️ stop the liquid cooler hate lol
I feel like mentally I just have to buy all new parts when I upgrade. I know it's not logical but if I keep a used part my new build just feels tainted lol
$270 liquid cooler, WTF
These things are stupidly overpriced anymore
EDIT: paired with a no-name power supply, please Paul pick a cheaper cooler and a quality power supply for this build 🙏
Heh hehheh. I like slots.
how can people still be using i5 7600K 4core 4thread in 2024? It bottlenecks even gtx 1080 in most modern games
Love how Paul ignored the 2nd guys request for a 7900 GRE or 7900 XT amd went with lower performing, more expensive Ngredia cards. The 7900XT can be had for under $700 brand new and the 7900 GRE is on sale at Newegg right now for $540
Because AMD's GPU's continue to be a joke that only people with a warped sense of "value" buy. There is a reason why AMD's top card is being so aggressively priced and its because for its performance it was grossly overpriced at release. The rest of the GPU market shows this.
why destroy a drive when you can over write the drive with 1010101010101,, you get the point ..
I'm moving from am4 to am5. Have to format ssd mandatory? Lazy mode ON 😂
Replacing Ryzen 5 5600g, gigabyte b550 H M, DDR4 Kingston 16 gb, stock AMD cooler to... Ryzen 9 7800, Asus x670e e gaming, Deepcool LS720 360 and Adata lancer ddr5 6400. Keeping Asus Thor 850w and Rx 6800 XT . Cooler Master mesh V2 cage... And most important... T-Dagger mouse and keyboard.
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For storage hoarders, a NAS solution with new HDDs may be better in the long run, especially if that data isn't important. I prefer to separate my data into different locations and keep the bare minimum of important data. That stuff is all cloud synced and costs little since it is relatively small.
I have a different take for the 7600K owner. Sell your current system. You should get at least 400 for it as is. After so long, it’s time to start fresh, and I just increased your budget to 1400. If that’s not enough for what I’m about to recommend, spend more and get more, while saving 25% of your income. If your mortgage makes that impossible, you cannot afford to live where you live.
If you’re willing to wait for Zen 5, wait. If you’re not willing to wait, and you are okay upgrading your system during its useful lifetime, the Ryzen 7500F is $125 right now, and that’s a freakin’ steal. It can do basic VM stuff as long as you’re not gaming simultaneously. Compared to your 7600K it’s 2x faster per core and has 3x the threads, making it all-around 3x faster. It will be upgradable to Zen 5 and Zen 6, so you can jump to Zen 5 if you still need more, but I bet you’ll be happy with it for at least 2 years, after which time you can upgrade to get more, faster cores without having to replace your platform. With that in mind, you want 64 GB DDR5 and a quality $3-$400 motherboard. I know it’s weird to spend more on your board than your CPU, but don’t compare it to the price of the 7500F, as that’s just a stop gap. Compare it to the $500+ Ryzen 9 processor you’ll buy next.
As for the GPU, since you’re selling your current system, you want to start with the 7800XT for $500 (GBP equivalent) and then modify the selection from there if you
A. Want Nvidia. Buy a 4070 or 4070 Super based on their price difference.
B. Want cheaper. Buy a 7600 XT. It will still be 50% faster than your 1080, significantly smoother in gaming, with modern architecture and drivers plus double the RAM.
Then you’ll need to re-buy a case, cooler and power supply, which will cost 300. That’s why I’m so sure youn can get 400 for your complete used system. And you’ll need 100 for a 2 TB NVME SSD or 200 for a 4 TB drive. Choose based on your storage needs. Don’t carry over spinning rust or SATA SSDs. You are wasting your time and dragging down the responsiveness of your new system. Yes, on paper, PCs are modular and infinitely upgradable. In reality, friends don’t let friends continue gaming on the same GPU after 7 years, and one new component often deserves another, or you’re hamstringing it. Your 2017 build was balanced. Build balanced again, or over-buy the components you’ll keep for the life of the PC while under-buying the ones you can slot-in upgrade.
"Don’t carry over spinning rust or SATA SSDs."
lolno. Having them there are storage does absolutely nothing to how fast your system runs. The OS isn't installed on them.
You also don't need a 3-400 motherboard. A B650 board will work just fine even for an R9. Recommending a pretty weak CPU when they specifically ask for a higher end one, to hold for ~7 years is wild. They're strapped for cash. Why would you suggest that they spend more unnecessarily? The 7900X3D is 100% the CPU to slot in here.
Friends don't advise that friends spend more than they need to when they don't have the budget for it. Nothing's wrong with gaming on an older GPU, as long as it handles what it needs to. Paul's suggestion has them hold on to an amount almost equal to the 7600XT so they actually could put that with a bit from the next few months' paychecks or just save up for a much better one later, which is what they planned on doing anyway.
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26:33 man could put that extra $600 into a 4090 instead lol
I definitely would have went intel on that first computer. AM5 does not have very many good options for cheap productivity cpus that can also game. I would have used a 13600K, they have them on sale for 299 at some stores.
Did a new build last Nov... B650 mobo (MSI MAG), 7900X3D, 32GB ram and a Galax 4070ti. I'm set for a good while.
One thing work mentioning with B650 boards...HUB showed recently that a lot of them are hot garbage for VRM and significantly hurt performance...so, be careful.
A bunch of the newer models at the bottom end of the price range, and they hurt performance if you stress a 7950x on them. If you game on a 7600 or even a 7800x3d, you'll be just fine even with the shittiest of the bunch. Hell, even a 7900 on its stock 65w configuration would be fine running all core workloads.
The biggest complaint they had was that those boards list compatibility with the most power hungry zen 4 clu's, while not being able to run them at their proper speed.
If you keep anything from an old build, you’re already bottlenecking your new build
Yeah. Old cases and HDD's psu's, .. overclock really poorly, ..
You ABSOLUTE FXKC1gn d1k h3d!
nembisis build, if i were going to do an upgrade i would just put a i7 7700k 7th gen or a i7 8700k 8th as both cpu's use the same socket type to start and see how that went.