I'm literally starting to play electric guitar 2 starting next month. First time. I played acoustic for years in church. Perfect video for me. I was just searching your channel for this last week.
All of this! Communication is definitely the key thing. I'd also say communication with your FOH engineer about who is playing what for each song. Most engineers I've worked with like to know, some don't care but it's definitely helpful
Paul Baloche mentioned complementing one another in a video course he put out about 15 years ago. He suggested if one guitar is playing in the lower register, (cowboy chords) then another instrument (guitar or piano) should be in another register. The point about the guitars not playing the same thing is really important, because they will compete. The frequencies of the notes will override one another if you're not exactly in tune. Also, it can lead to muddiness if one player is slightly off rhythm or is playing a different voicing in the same range (1st inversion of a chord in the same frequency range as someone playing the a power chord, etc). The human ear can only hear so much and then it stops listening. And our brains can only process so much and then they start shutting off. Which gives me MUCH respect for 70s rock groups like the Eagles, or Kansas, or Lynyrd Skynrd who had three (or more) guitarists on stage at the same time and still sounded GREAT.
From what I was told, Doobie Brothers way of playing is this. Tom Johnston plays R & B style rhythm by strumming, Patrick Simmons plays rhythm by finger picking and John McFee plays lead. I've seen a few of their performances and observe that's how they do it.
This is good, most videos out there is exactly what you said, one guitarist playing two ish parts. I think it’s much harder to have two guitars. 1. You have to communicate as you stated 2. You have to listen to each other 3. Some songs don’t have two parts so it might force us to be creative which is fun. 4. It allows us to humble ourselves and outdo each other with honor. I love that you share EG 1 and EG2 in the set, sharing and trust is key to have a good relationship between guitar players who, lets be honest, battle ego and pride every time we pick up the thing. Good topic
Could you guys talk about bass in a video? I understand your both electric guys but as a bass player I would like to hear your thoughts on it. Mix setups-what to play, etc.
Yes, best advice there "Tune your guitar"! 😂 It can go a long way. And play different register and different tones. Great worship sound there! God bless you brother and your ministry there 🙏🎸🎶🙌
Great to meet you guys that Sunday! Sorry for delaying your 10:43 wrap-up, but I’ve never been so surprised when visiting a church. Literally had no idea this is your church, let alone that you fellers would be there!
At my church we have a lot of older worshipers so my electric guitar isn't as hot as I would like it. I'm the only Metal guy and I'm used to my guitar being more prominent but when I hear the play back the electric guitar is very quiet while the acoustic is louder.
So obviously the biggest priority in a two guitarist situation is to each play different parts/shapes/voicings, etc. What about guitar eq’ing? Is it beneficial for the more rhythmic guitarist to have a more scooped tone and the lead player to have a more middy tone?
7:39 Yes! I am not crazy! That's what they did on Phil Wickham's version of "This is Amazing Grace". You can hear stereo that there is one guitar in 1 ear and another in the other ear!
That partially depends on the capability of your keys rig: If you’re running a keyboard workstation (all sounds built into one piano/keyboard), you may be pretty limited in what parts you can cover. If you’re running a software setup (laptop + midi controller), you have much more flexibility and can cover more ground. In our context, I generally have my keys players cover the piano and pads parts on most songs. I let the tracks do the heavy lifting on big percussive synths and arpeggios.
I'm late here, but I have never had the pleasure of having another electric across the stage from me. Most of the time, I don't even have an acoustic player. I literally have to listen to a song repeatedly to find a fluid path for a single guitar.
Not if you're sound guy is decent. It's called lead for a reason. Should be just a bit under the lead vocal. A lot of worship sound guys seem to not understand this concept of lead guitar and mix it so low
One question, do telecastors, strats, lespaul, etc. have different sounds due to their body shapes or do they differ more by the type of their pickups? Also, are there some kind of "rules" like tele or strat is more suitable for lead or rhythm guitar, viceversa, stuffs like that.
Daniel Kim it’s not so much the guitar shape, not that it doesn’t affect the tone, but it’s more that the different woods your guitar is made of bring out different frequency’s and affect the tone. Different pickups in your guitar also affect the tone. Just like different amps have different voices, different guitars and different pickups have different voices too. However as far as one being the best, that’s completely subjective. Just gotta have fun, be comfortable with the gear you’re playing with, and serve the song :)
How are you still liking your MJT guitar. I just started a build and have a lot of time to wait and was curious how yours is holding up and if you still like it as much as you did
I may have missed it but i didn't see a tuner on Bradford's board. Does he still use a TC Polytune? My Korg started popping so i just ordered a TC on Monday
Putting two guitar players on stage together is the same as throwing two strange cats in a room; you gotta let 'em fight it out and establish territory and hierarchy. Once they're used to each other they'll form trust and chemistry. And possibly make kittens.
Love me.some Suhr classic T's. Except the Wilkinson bridge. Yuck! Stupid locking screws. Suhr should really consider putting a better bridge on such a nice guitar otherwise.
7:44 this annoys the hell out of me. I hate when they sum 2 main parts together and then have a separate track for the freaking ambient swell that comes in for 2 bars at the end.
I think there is good potential in the subject matter you come up with Brian. But the video is spoiled with noise, distractions and too much goofing around. I think you are good enough to come up with something more structured.
“David Crowder arr.” means it’s his arrangement. If we did John Mark McMillan’s arrangement I would have put his name in. It’s the same thing when we do Way Maker and I put “Leeland arr.”
A guitarist with SKILLSshould only need a volume pedal, tuner, boost, wah wah, distortion andfor Christian music a delay is a must. Unfortunately Christian music guitar players all play The Edge no talent, thousand petals on their paddleboard because they can’t play. We’re supposed to give God our best I don’t think this is our best and no reflection on you two guys I’m talking about the Christian music industry and the cookie cutter Pooh Pooh that the Christian music industry puts out.
Holden Kelly that is if your amp doesn’t have it But case in point many many Christian guitar players crank up the reverb to cover up their crappy playing
So, you are saying that the Christian electric guitarist in the industry don't have skill because they have a lot of pedals on there board? I would say most of the people in the industry have a great talent given to them by God and the pedals can help them glorify him even more! The pedals aren't for covering up bad playing! Are you saying because you have less effects on your board that you are better then them? That doesn't make any sense. Like I said, most of them have been playing for years or even decades and have great skill. And most of them are probably better than you... Just saying... And plus, I would say it takes more skill to play with more pedals because then you have to know to use your effects correctly. Guys like Patrick Thompson(Rend Collective), Stu G(Delirious), Daniel Carson(Chris Tomlin), David Hislop(Bethel Music), and Lincoln Brewster among many many others are all talented players... Yet they all have one thing in common... Nice pedal boards with many effects. With which they glorify God and bring people to worship.
Leave a comment below if you saw Bradford absolutely rip that solo in How He Loves 👇🙌
Worship Tutorials I saw it 🙋🏻♂️
I bore witness to that face melting and to Bradford's accompanying guitar face
Worship Tutorials he’s pretty good
I might have watched it "a couple" times 🤷♂️
@@bmitchellmusic what's your amp setup right now?
I really believe giving a lead guitarist space toward the end of a song to play a melodic lead above the other instruments is so dynamic.
Playing in the key of C only using 1,4,5,6 chords. That's called an easy day.
I'm literally starting to play electric guitar 2 starting next month. First time. I played acoustic for years in church. Perfect video for me. I was just searching your channel for this last week.
I love playing slide lines in How He Loves, gives it a reverential feel and some dramatic effect !
All of this! Communication is definitely the key thing. I'd also say communication with your FOH engineer about who is playing what for each song. Most engineers I've worked with like to know, some don't care but it's definitely helpful
Paul Baloche mentioned complementing one another in a video course he put out about 15 years ago. He suggested if one guitar is playing in the lower register, (cowboy chords) then another instrument (guitar or piano) should be in another register. The point about the guitars not playing the same thing is really important, because they will compete. The frequencies of the notes will override one another if you're not exactly in tune. Also, it can lead to muddiness if one player is slightly off rhythm or is playing a different voicing in the same range (1st inversion of a chord in the same frequency range as someone playing the a power chord, etc). The human ear can only hear so much and then it stops listening. And our brains can only process so much and then they start shutting off. Which gives me MUCH respect for 70s rock groups like the Eagles, or Kansas, or Lynyrd Skynrd who had three (or more) guitarists on stage at the same time and still sounded GREAT.
Haha! Old school videos. I still have them somewhere.
From what I was told, Doobie Brothers way of playing is this. Tom Johnston plays R & B style rhythm by strumming, Patrick Simmons plays rhythm by finger picking and John McFee plays lead. I've seen a few of their performances and observe that's how they do it.
5:56 Awesome Solo 💪🏻
This is good, most videos out there is exactly what you said, one guitarist playing two ish parts. I think it’s much harder to have two guitars. 1. You have to communicate as you stated 2. You have to listen to each other 3. Some songs don’t have two parts so it might force us to be creative which is fun. 4. It allows us to humble ourselves and outdo each other with honor. I love that you share EG 1 and EG2 in the set, sharing and trust is key to have a good relationship between guitar players who, lets be honest, battle ego and pride every time we pick up the thing. Good topic
Could you guys talk about bass in a video?
I understand your both electric guys but as a bass player I would like to hear your thoughts on it. Mix setups-what to play, etc.
Yes, best advice there "Tune your guitar"! 😂 It can go a long way. And play different register and different tones. Great worship sound there! God bless you brother and your ministry there 🙏🎸🎶🙌
Bradford with both ears out during Waymaker haha :P
That was off click ;)
I look forward to these Sunday vlogs
That “how he loves” instrumental😳😳😳
Great to meet you guys that Sunday! Sorry for delaying your 10:43 wrap-up, but I’ve never been so surprised when visiting a church. Literally had no idea this is your church, let alone that you fellers would be there!
At my church we have a lot of older worshipers so my electric guitar isn't as hot as I would like it. I'm the only Metal guy and I'm used to my guitar being more prominent but when I hear the play back the electric guitar is very quiet while the acoustic is louder.
3:10 mateus asato's song on the background lolll
good taste guys
The biggest tip I’ve ever been given is “when in doubt, don’t play.”
Don’t be afraid to use a capo children. 😬👍🏻 Great advice in this video. Thanks for posting!
Love to see a rig rundown on Bradford's board. :D
Anyone reminded of Joey from FRIENDS when watching Bradford?
Uh, hello!? Biggest question left unanswered in this video... unforeseen or sloppy wet?
So it's funny. For the past 8 years I've been at this church, we've sung sloppy wet. This weekend: unforeseen. 🤷♂️😂
It's sloppy wet or you're a wuss
This was great tips. Thanks guys.
Love it when everything in the same key
So obviously the biggest priority in a two guitarist situation is to each play different parts/shapes/voicings, etc. What about guitar eq’ing? Is it beneficial for the more rhythmic guitarist to have a more scooped tone and the lead player to have a more middy tone?
4:22 omg other people who throw the "JUST LOOK AT IT" out randomly!!!!! LOL were not the only ones! #Edbassmasterclassics
😎🙌🏻👊🏻
If this is from Feb 9, LOL....we did How He Loves and Way Maker on Sunday, too!
7:39 Yes! I am not crazy! That's what they did on Phil Wickham's version of "This is Amazing Grace". You can hear stereo that there is one guitar in 1 ear and another in the other ear!
I find I have this question on keys as well. Only one key player: which part do I play and which to have in tracks? Especially on a synth-heavy song.
That partially depends on the capability of your keys rig:
If you’re running a keyboard workstation (all sounds built into one piano/keyboard), you may be pretty limited in what parts you can cover.
If you’re running a software setup (laptop + midi controller), you have much more flexibility and can cover more ground.
In our context, I generally have my keys players cover the piano and pads parts on most songs. I let the tracks do the heavy lifting on big percussive synths and arpeggios.
Josh Petermann thank you. That’s typically what I do. We have a MIDI + laptop situation.
Bradford: *buys IEMs, doesn't use them*
You can completely solo parts on MT Playback.
Your drummer is a wild man. I imagine you have to pull him of the drums afterwards😆
Those drums sound superb
Can you make a tutorial on how he loves, it’s pretty basic but I’d like to see y’all guys take on it and see what you do instead
I'm late here, but I have never had the pleasure of having another electric across the stage from me. Most of the time, I don't even have an acoustic player. I literally have to listen to a song repeatedly to find a fluid path for a single guitar.
Wish we used two guitars.
It’s funny how much work and money is put into our guitar rigs but they are often the least heard instrument. Lol
Not if you're sound guy is decent. It's called lead for a reason. Should be just a bit under the lead vocal. A lot of worship sound guys seem to not understand this concept of lead guitar and mix it so low
this helped me SO MUCH
thank you🙏🏽
One question, do telecastors, strats, lespaul, etc. have different sounds due to their body shapes or do they differ more by the type of their pickups?
Also, are there some kind of "rules" like tele or strat is more suitable for lead or rhythm guitar, viceversa, stuffs like that.
Daniel Kim it’s not so much the guitar shape, not that it doesn’t affect the tone, but it’s more that the different woods your guitar is made of bring out different frequency’s and affect the tone. Different pickups in your guitar also affect the tone. Just like different amps have different voices, different guitars and different pickups have different voices too. However as far as one being the best, that’s completely subjective. Just gotta have fun, be comfortable with the gear you’re playing with, and serve the song :)
@@taylorspecht2886 thanks for the reply, I appreciate it a lot 😘
Daniel Kim of course! Hope it helps! 😋
Before our church went through a split we had an acoustic rhythm and two electrics
How are you still liking your MJT guitar. I just started a build and have a lot of time to wait and was curious how yours is holding up and if you still like it as much as you did
I'm actually arranging a song right now and, as a keyboard player, have been having trouble with this exact situation.
Get them to communicate. Who plays what.
Worship Tutorials
Interesting my Sunday service last time every song was in C
Funny how God communicates to us
Bill McElgunn what does God tell us when we all play in C? ...
@@ColoradoDreamin funny coincidence
I think God's just giving a little nod
I played all mine in C they played all theirs in C
Pretty cool
Mateus asato's Dont Dream its over on 2:49
I may have missed it but i didn't see a tuner on Bradford's board. Does he still use a TC Polytune? My Korg started popping so i just ordered a TC on Monday
The key of c is the best!🙌😅
Putting two guitar players on stage together is the same as throwing two strange cats in a room; you gotta let 'em fight it out and establish territory and hierarchy. Once they're used to each other they'll form trust and chemistry. And possibly make kittens.
😂😂
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That’s a weird analogy, but accurate
Love me.some Suhr classic T's. Except the Wilkinson bridge. Yuck! Stupid locking screws. Suhr should really consider putting a better bridge on such a nice guitar otherwise.
How can you learn electric guitar without having one ?
but do you have one for acoustic guitars?
We can do that!
@@worshiptutorials Looking forward to it. Thanks guys!
Usually with 2 acoustics, capoing to a different shape to get different voicings is often all that is needed.
6am ! What time does service start ?
8:45
Great Sucess!! I like you, do you like me!! Hahaha
Not big on Sunday solos
7:44 this annoys the hell out of me. I hate when they sum 2 main parts together and then have a separate track for the freaking ambient swell that comes in for 2 bars at the end.
Are you on the right site?
@@markcummings2344 yes, and its not on all songs, but on some multitracks this happens.
Well at least you're not going to hell
@cour1988 Funny AND subtle
Mark Cummings 😏
Tip 1 is already fail for me😭
First
Bradford Mitchell are you not rocking the big board anymore?
Bradford rocks all the boards...
Hey I saw on WayMaker that both your ears were out. did you guys do Way Maker without the click?
asking for a friend😁
Man... The way they look each other 😳😣
I think there is good potential in the subject matter you come up with Brian. But the video is spoiled with noise, distractions and too much goofing around. I think you are good enough to come up with something more structured.
Steven Flamenco it’s a vlog, dude. We have lots of other videos in our studio. But the whole point of a vlog is the rawness ;)
@@bmitchellmusic thanks for that.
every song is in KFC
I’m sorry Bradford but your singing voice does not match your body size lol!!
Yeah fr because he looks like a lumberjack
“David Crowder’s ‘how He loves’ “.............this again? He didn’t write it. 🙄
“David Crowder arr.” means it’s his arrangement. If we did John Mark McMillan’s arrangement I would have put his name in.
It’s the same thing when we do Way Maker and I put “Leeland arr.”
A guitarist with SKILLSshould only need a volume pedal, tuner, boost, wah wah, distortion andfor Christian music a delay is a must. Unfortunately Christian music guitar players all play The Edge no talent, thousand petals on their paddleboard because they can’t play. We’re supposed to give God our best I don’t think this is our best and no reflection on you two guys I’m talking about the Christian music industry and the cookie cutter Pooh Pooh that the Christian music industry puts out.
...uh...reverb...?
Holden Kelly that is if your amp doesn’t have it But case in point many many Christian guitar players crank up the reverb to cover up their crappy playing
Tony Marinelli who hurt you?
Ethan Parker nobody, musicianship in the Christian music industry is deplorable and if you don’t see it you lack skills too
So, you are saying that the Christian electric guitarist in the industry don't have skill because they have a lot of pedals on there board? I would say most of the people in the industry have a great talent given to them by God and the pedals can help them glorify him even more! The pedals aren't for covering up bad playing! Are you saying because you have less effects on your board that you are better then them? That doesn't make any sense. Like I said, most of them have been playing for years or even decades and have great skill. And most of them are probably better than you... Just saying... And plus, I would say it takes more skill to play with more pedals because then you have to know to use your effects correctly. Guys like Patrick Thompson(Rend Collective), Stu G(Delirious), Daniel Carson(Chris Tomlin), David Hislop(Bethel Music), and Lincoln Brewster among many many others are all talented players... Yet they all have one thing in common... Nice pedal boards with many effects. With which they glorify God and bring people to worship.
Guys you spend so much time prepearing. Do you get paid for your efforts or get anything ?