My Next Ferrari ? The GTC4 Lusso - How 25 years has changed the game ?

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  • Ferrari's latest GTC4 Lusso is the great grandad of my 456 GTA, but have 25 years of development made the 2+2 GT Ferrari any better ? I find out the shocking truth !
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ความคิดเห็น • 209

  • @details78
    @details78 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Lovely video. Excellent Ferris Bueller quote.
    Now you just have to jack it up and spin the wheels in reverse to negate all of the mileage you've put on. 😀

    • @Ratarossa2
      @Ratarossa2 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ha ha ha i was thinking that !!

    • @angela1984a
      @angela1984a 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      So having two young daughters... I wonder about his view on Man-Made Global Warming?

    • @alann7974
      @alann7974 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@graham6229 Tell all the people in Texas all about Global Warming or Climate change to account for anomalies that scientists cannot explain.

  • @glossamano1899
    @glossamano1899 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Fantastic car! It’s a great all-rounder; a supercar, a GT cruiser, a 2 door hatchback shopping car and a car to pick the kids up from school in. To me the perfect, usable Ferrari. All those options I’d include except here in Australia, the £11,000 glass roof would be unnecessary and unwanted. Very nice review. Thanks for sharing.

  • @godchi1dvonsteuben770
    @godchi1dvonsteuben770 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    My favorite ”Money no object" Ferrari, the F50. Rarer than an F40, more comfortable, detachable roof, and 12 formula 1, flat plane, cylinders. My favorite realistic, daily driver, Ferrari, GTC4 Liesl... Amazing vehicle. The shooting break design is absolutely gorgeous. Powerful, yet balanced engine, with a gorgeous, and functional, interior. Just an amazing overall package from Ferrari. They put so many featured in this car, it's easily one if the best Ferrari's ever built...

  • @mattpovah5952
    @mattpovah5952 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    That engine note is astounding. Wow.

  • @williamcadman2075
    @williamcadman2075 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Carbon fibre trades at $15 per pound on Chicago mercantile exchange! High end car makers can retail it to suckers at between five and ten grand per pound.
    The fact you have to “spec up” a new car with a base price of over £200,000 must mean they are selling you short as a price gouging exercise. There is one born every minute.

  • @byronmills5952
    @byronmills5952 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    456 wins hand down on looks for me. The Gtc4 Lusso is a cracking car - but boy do they currently drop value like a stone - you can pick up a 12 month old highly optioned example now with tiny miles for the best part of 100k less than if you bought one brand new, which makes them wonderfully good value on the used market if you've got a couple of bob in your pocket and use the money you've saved to buy a tidy 456 to sit alongside it! 😃

    • @juststuff5216
      @juststuff5216 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm also a big fan of the 456, and it would be my second choice behind the f355 ... which I'd buy just for the sound. Problem with the 456 is reliability ...as it doesn't seem to have any!

  • @timroberts2919
    @timroberts2919 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Looks a lot more modern. Modern interior. Very useable and driveable

  • @LOTPOR0402
    @LOTPOR0402 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Looks more like a modern day scimitar GTE ,than a Ferrari

    • @TheMentalblockrock
      @TheMentalblockrock 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Agreed, I can't wait for Ferrari to bring back the Robin.

    • @pereldh5741
      @pereldh5741 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Scimitar GTE, who’ve ever seen one in the first place? 😄

    • @markbennett6658
      @markbennett6658 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Per Eldh I’ve owned one a 1975 yellow 3 litre V6 auto in 1990!

    • @mikaeljonsson4686
      @mikaeljonsson4686 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Great looking car, great review!🤩👍🏻

    • @anjumparvaz9325
      @anjumparvaz9325 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lanougini hurrcan

  • @TrevorS38
    @TrevorS38 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I love the interior design from the seats back. I have no idea what they were thinking with the dash/steering wheels. All of the steering wheels/dashboards since the 355 look like arcade racers from the early 90s.

  • @ducknorris233
    @ducknorris233 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Reminds me of those custom hatchback Corvettes from the 70s
    .

  • @johnnysmith863
    @johnnysmith863 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm not really a fan of modern sportscars but I really appreciate the Lusso. Maybe I'll get one as a daily... in 25 years or so.
    Also, the styling might not be everyone's cup of tea but personally I love the Breadvanesque, shooting brake style (Z3M Coupe, Scimitar GTE... or 250 GT SWB 'Breadvan'?)!

  • @MyRetroWatches
    @MyRetroWatches 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    30 Ferrari's wow Scott. You are living my dream. Would still really like to hear the story on how you know so much about thes cars. Just a hobby for you or do you have industry experience.
    This was a great comparison and that Lusso is just on another level.

  • @keithm.404
    @keithm.404 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Reminds me of my 1996 Fiat Bravo, same colour and everything!

    • @sainta2667
      @sainta2667 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hahaha , right ! shame for Ferrari !

  • @Frank-pe9pk
    @Frank-pe9pk 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I’m 63 and been looking to buy an F12 but now I’m having 2nd thoughts. After losing my wife a few years back I’m having a mid life crisis.

    • @mattex2306
      @mattex2306 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Come on don't get thrown down, i think your wife would like you to be happy

  • @johnnysmith863
    @johnnysmith863 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    "It is so choice. If you have the means, I highly recommend picking one up."

  • @JohnDoe-xp4iy
    @JohnDoe-xp4iy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I've seen a black one in person. Got so excited but my light turned green and had to drive off

    • @Ratarossa2
      @Ratarossa2 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      black would look fantastic on that lusso

    • @thatelfdoesit
      @thatelfdoesit 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Look at my insta iishumanjk it might have been mine!

  • @brianiswrong
    @brianiswrong 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    With a young family it's the ideal family " super wagon".

  • @dsjavid
    @dsjavid 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    The car is great but what is even more amazing are you daughters. They are adorable. I love your videos and can't wait for more of them. Cheers

  • @246dinoGTS
    @246dinoGTS 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love the looks, the bread van was a strange Ferrari but somehow it grew on me just like this shooting brake style has since the FF ...WANT !!!

  • @floridahummer
    @floridahummer 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    2 kids and a Ferrari, you have won the lottery

  • @Michael_Lorenson
    @Michael_Lorenson 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Ferraris are really only for people who don't have to ask what they cost.

    • @dan_6915
      @dan_6915 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      If you like something, you don't care about the price of it. You just gotta have it.

  • @MarcSob22
    @MarcSob22 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The Lusso is amazing!!

  • @Ferraridude13
    @Ferraridude13 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    No point in getting any of that exterior carbon fiber panelling, weighs more than the plastic and doesn't confer any advantage strength wise.

  • @jameseast8510
    @jameseast8510 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Maybe an FF would be a nice place in the middle for you, great video!

  • @thatelfdoesit
    @thatelfdoesit 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I own a lucco v 12 and it is the greatest daily only problem is i put 8k miles in 6 months :( love it anyway, and surprisingly cheeper to insure then my 2017 jag f-type

  • @jan-hendrikbussmann4644
    @jan-hendrikbussmann4644 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    It is a beautiful car, especially from the rear in my opinion. But the Italian flag batch on the rear does look like it came from some sales stand on a motorway gas station. And the exhaust tips would become black of their own just fine from driving and not cleaning them.

  • @GautamKumar-jw5vf
    @GautamKumar-jw5vf 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    most beautiful ferrari in my opinion

    • @roscopeco2000
      @roscopeco2000 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      What!! That rear end is Ugly...

  • @CaptainFisch
    @CaptainFisch 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    and what have we learnend from this video: The 456GT Venice has less legroom than the lusso. i always thougt that the big station wagon from ferrari is bigger than the lusso. Well i was wrong.
    In my opinion the GTC 4 Lusso is the best allroundcar that you can buy as long as you do not need a van. But this interiör.. why? my eyes are bleeding... Oh thank god it is just the color of the seats... ah my eyes.

  • @ThriftMachine
    @ThriftMachine 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Ferrari Van, I hated it at first but now it's grown on me.

  • @ecopilots1094
    @ecopilots1094 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Think the Lusso is a superb all rounder, great review ....Love the Ferris quote !!

  • @250danny
    @250danny 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video as usual Mr.R, yes you got to have 1 as your 2 special guest probably agree, must have that 13k Big glass roof and daytona leather seat, (probably without that alcatara strip that you couldn t find lol), i don't think carbon bits are critical for these car perhaps std silver panels would look more classy in long run, i personally think this GT4C bit over spec!!! yes off course the V12, (not the V8 T silly option lol) about colour... i think Tdf blue with these interior would look even better, hope you soon have one in your drive alongside the 456 360CS...

    • @Ratarossa
      @Ratarossa  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      thanks, i liked the carbon it looked great with the body colour but i would be very afraid of damaging it

  • @TerranDiablo
    @TerranDiablo ปีที่แล้ว

    That spec on the interior is fantastic. Daytona seats. Full leather to the dash and headliner. Very hard to find one with Daytona seats!! Is that car for sale>

  • @xjrrider6710
    @xjrrider6710 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    You’ve inspired me to join the Ferrari family. A 2+2 but not quite the Lusso. I’m going back to your roots and starting off in a Mondial

  • @artysanmobile
    @artysanmobile 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That might be their most complex ever road car. You’re going to have your hands full. How in the world they sync the front axle gearbox with the rear drive is something I’d love to hear about. I don’t know of another all wheel drive car using so complex a layout.
    The engine view belongs in the Louvre.

    • @jeffv103
      @jeffv103 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The front gearbox is engaged only for the first couple or 3 trans gears. Once a certain higher speed is reached the front gearbox disengages

  • @youcoulduseit7492
    @youcoulduseit7492 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ya another fine presentation. If you can rotate the tire's with just a lug wrench. It probly could be an argument that it's a daily driver. Don't think I'd go to the wrecking yard with it though. ha ha still love that 456 especially if they fluxed the alloy the heads are cast from

  • @PixelVogue
    @PixelVogue 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Get the FF!

  • @KSL12
    @KSL12 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video very tempted by the GTC4 Lusso.

    • @Ratarossa
      @Ratarossa  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I was shocked at how much i liked the car

  • @Ratarossa2
    @Ratarossa2 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great review I would certainly have one of these, maybe after a year of depreciation ?

    • @thatelfdoesit
      @thatelfdoesit 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      After a year they stay in the low 200’s they dont budge

  • @scotchgod8478
    @scotchgod8478 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    What you forgot to mention: how much is the tow coupling? In case you want to pull your rv or sth.

  • @phil6747
    @phil6747 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    My 3 bedroom house with a garage cost less that the stereo and I've bought entire cars for less than the price of the centre caps.

    • @williamcadman2075
      @williamcadman2075 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      There is £200,000 profit for Ferrari on each of these cars. The suckers that “spec them up” cover total production cost of the car.

  • @ReemerFeddes
    @ReemerFeddes 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The 456 has still more class. Maybe the GTC4 will have it in a few years as well but the 456 is proven timelessly beautiful.

  • @gentnextdoor
    @gentnextdoor 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Lusso will be a quirky collectors car in the future. It’s stunning and has that honeysuckle V12. Great vid

  • @user-mg9he3qj3n
    @user-mg9he3qj3n 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Cheers Scott,awesome vehicle!! I have noticed at 12:58 you have a little bit of Ed the duck going on!!🚒👍

    • @Ratarossa
      @Ratarossa  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      lol i really did

  • @easyeagle3730
    @easyeagle3730 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So glad Ferrari has kept up with the 1994 Nissan 300ZX Twin Turbo with rear wheel steering.

  • @coreycohen6160
    @coreycohen6160 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love the Lusso from the front and back, but from the side the rear just looks strange. I know Ferrari notched the back that way for more head room, but they could have made it more flowing....

    • @Ratarossa
      @Ratarossa  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      i really like the lines, i tank in the flesh it looks much nicer than in pictures or video

  • @addicted2_hp412
    @addicted2_hp412 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Speaking of the 308... how’s that coming?

  • @vincentagius2657
    @vincentagius2657 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good all round review and a great car. If funds allowed, myself and my boys would love it as a daily. Always makes me cringe a little when you reference your stradale, yes you put a lot of time and money in sourcing genuine parts and building it up. But the fact is it’s not a stradale, and that would be reflected in the resale. Good job with it though.

  • @oldanslo
    @oldanslo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You got it backwards. The 456GTA is the great granddad of the latest GTC4 Lusso.

  • @Interzone1
    @Interzone1 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh man. Can anyone agree that a base spec GTC4 Lusso must already be a kick ass beat-everything-in-sight monster? With absolutely zero need for upgrades. C’mon it must be so! 🤩 Save a 100 grand! Bingo. Just a like that.

  • @bariskocer
    @bariskocer 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great car dude

  • @bargibargibargi
    @bargibargibargi 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Loving the black and orange look

  • @pajakratak9573
    @pajakratak9573 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    That rims. Looks like bmw series 3 style.

    • @DUB-sential
      @DUB-sential 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I thought BMW kind of look

  • @wizpin
    @wizpin 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love that car as well, in my pricerange when its 10+ years old. But Im scared with modern ferraris if they get old. What if the computers brake down? LCD screens etc?

  • @themessenger5868
    @themessenger5868 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very nice Ferrari, but not my choice. I just can't get past the "Hatch" element to the Lusso. If I ordered one, I would order the absolute base model...it would most likely be the only one in the world and with money I'd save, buy a nice little cottage in the country to drive it to on the weekend. Thanks for the review.

  • @RaymondStarr007
    @RaymondStarr007 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    All you need to do now Scott is too sell everyone of your cars too get any where near too buy this car lol

  • @billymania11
    @billymania11 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The pricing on new Ferrari's is madness but it doesn't bother me. Their cars don't appeal to me personally as they are impractical and are not long distance cruisers. I still like to watch the videos however. For me it's entertainment. Your ratarossa is amusing but I like to see you take a better conditioned example and refit that for the modern era. That would be really cool.

    • @LarryKippings
      @LarryKippings 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Merry Xmas! I’ve owned a Lusso for 2 years now, covered nearly 20,000 miles. It most definitely is a long distance cruiser. Staggeringly amazing car.

  • @enzorari
    @enzorari 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great review as always Scott. Indeed Ferrari has come a long way since the 456, but I still like the ‘grandfather’ car 😁. Is the V12 nowadays not a ‘derivate’ from the V12 from the 456?

  • @armnelangeles1824
    @armnelangeles1824 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Here in Finland, a 2019 Gtc4 Lusso V12 used model can be had at the hefty price of € 599,990 (tax included) 👀😎

  • @user-mg9he3qj3n
    @user-mg9he3qj3n 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Could we/you look at insurance for those wishing to purchase a Ferrari and where the best deals are?

    • @Ratarossa
      @Ratarossa  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      yes absolutely i can share how i do mine on all the cars

  • @nathanrunciman88
    @nathanrunciman88 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Paul Wallace (Supercars of London) drove that Lusso too. I think this time last year?

  • @ratman9802
    @ratman9802 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    You know that Dr Hook song - ballad of lucy jordan? That goes "At the age of 37, She realised she'd never ride through Paris In a sports car, with the warm wind in her hair" Yeah well ... I think I know Lucy Jordan felt.

  • @bren70ssss94
    @bren70ssss94 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Nope , 550 is far nicer .

  • @DUB-sential
    @DUB-sential 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Pretty good ferrari doesn't take offence to you fixing Ferraris with dustbins lol

  • @darrellsimpson6966
    @darrellsimpson6966 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    To me it looks not quite right. The 456 looks far better. In fact I think the 456 is simply beautiful.

  • @ПавелПлотников-щ1ь
    @ПавелПлотников-щ1ь ปีที่แล้ว

    I love Luso, very cool car

  • @ferraristo64
    @ferraristo64 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great car !!

  • @susanherbst6086
    @susanherbst6086 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    So very cool watching all of you.

  • @howardscott7521
    @howardscott7521 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    While you can't argue with the performance, I am not the biggest fan of the FF/Lusso styling. I would rather your 456!

    • @PeteCourtier
      @PeteCourtier 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I know what what you mean👍 But I’d rather have a 550 Maranello🥰

    • @howardscott7521
      @howardscott7521 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, I could be talked into a 550 as well, lol!

    • @PeteCourtier
      @PeteCourtier 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      TBH I’d take any ferrari😂 Beggars can’t be choosers🤣

    • @howardscott7521
      @howardscott7521 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@PeteCourtier I have a 1987 triple black Mondial, but have big plans to eventually move up the ladder!

  • @anidiotinaracingcar4874
    @anidiotinaracingcar4874 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Not once did you mention it has 4WD?

  • @MikePaterson
    @MikePaterson 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really good video. Many thanks!

  • @garybrooks2463
    @garybrooks2463 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Loved it! I’m going to go buy one straight away.

  • @KDHildreth
    @KDHildreth 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You've owned 30 Ferrari in 20 years!!! wow

    • @Ratarossa
      @Ratarossa  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      slight addiction !

  • @markopolo9559
    @markopolo9559 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I would go for an FF as they start from 98k on Autotrader.

  • @richieduck67
    @richieduck67 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great review Mr Rossa very underated Ferrari but good for a depreciation point of view..

  • @SNORKYMEDIA
    @SNORKYMEDIA 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    the one Fezza I would buy if I won the lottery....

  • @c1d2e
    @c1d2e 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Buying that car is kinda like going to the hospital for a minor procedure in the U.S. Two aspirin- 48.00$.

  • @walthansen6333
    @walthansen6333 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Really dumb question: On a right-hand steer car, is the accelerator pedal still under the right foot ?

    • @johnnysmith863
      @johnnysmith863 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes!

    • @Ratarossa
      @Ratarossa  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      yes, the only difference really used to be the gear stick in the centre, but now with all the f1 system its the same just on the right side of the road

  • @organiccold
    @organiccold 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    One of my favourit Ferraris. :)

  • @richardsmith9509
    @richardsmith9509 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Trick O Lor??? In North America thats a Tri-color

  • @TheFirstStater
    @TheFirstStater 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Buy a VW GTI and you will have black exhaust tips as a no cost option

    • @paulthomson9709
      @paulthomson9709 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Buy a scirrocco its basically a shortened ff anyway with a 4 cylinder engine , even designed by the same person .

  • @jimcear1766
    @jimcear1766 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Ferrari station wagon

  • @AkaliBlade
    @AkaliBlade 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent thorough and detailed review. Great job.

  • @mitchd949
    @mitchd949 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The carbon fiber bits are a joke - ridiculous price and no benefit to make you go faster other than lightening your wallet.

  • @djpierre4613
    @djpierre4613 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Practical posh car. Lacks the class/style of the former 2+2 Ferrari's like 400/412 and even 456 imho. Bently Continental might be the better choise in this segment.

  • @lami150sx
    @lami150sx 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thumbs down far too many adverts

  • @herme99
    @herme99 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Where would you rest your tools?

  • @superseven7947
    @superseven7947 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    That's a cool car and love the colour

  • @ProjectFairmont
    @ProjectFairmont 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sounds a bit 60 degree V6 nasally?

  • @solstar4778
    @solstar4778 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    You can’t compare 💱then with now incomes have not kept up with proposed inflation! Considerable wind noise on the video 🤔 dealers will also discount it , shop around ☑️

  • @johnwh1039
    @johnwh1039 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lovely car, but is it a Ferrari? Superfluous features (multiple cameras, multiple entertainment screens, massively heavy double glazing to mention but a few). Funny how carbon fibre is now a luxury material, where it was actually introduced as a strong but light material introduced for purely for function with no regard to its appearance.

  • @markbennett6658
    @markbennett6658 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    “If you have the means I strongly recommend it”. Anybody got the the means here? 😂 it’s too long and the styling compromised by the +2 configuration and upright hatch so I wouldn’t want to own one if I did have the means!

  • @dazgreen
    @dazgreen 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sliding that old bumper along that leather seat 😬

    • @Ratarossa
      @Ratarossa  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      i was very careful and its a brand new bumper

  • @brocco4071
    @brocco4071 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was solid! girls were great 👍

  • @leo-.-258
    @leo-.-258 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Gt4lusso is too much expensive. You should try the Ferrari FF

  • @fvingerhoed
    @fvingerhoed 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    beauty

  • @furmanodell
    @furmanodell 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    LOL, loads of legroom for a 9 year old. It does look like a nice car to take to the beach.

  • @lkl8656
    @lkl8656 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    perfection right there !

  • @reallynotpc
    @reallynotpc 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Looks amazingly good, in spite of all that carbon'fibre stuff. It just doesn´t do it for me. I see your younger daughter has been properly brought up to say that daddy giving it the beans is funny.

  • @warwickb7680
    @warwickb7680 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Would the 456 be the great grandad of the GTC4 not the other way round?

  • @peterthemaniac
    @peterthemaniac 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    great one !