I really have to give a hand to our Finnish authorities. The last Chinese ship to cut a cable was guarded by the Danish and German on the international waters for weeks, before they let the Chinese conduct the (surely by the book) investigation. Now Finnish special forces just immediately boarded the ship and forced it into Finnish territorial waters for investigation. Finland again showing others how international terrorists should be handled.
Yes . But taking over ships 🚢 in international waters is Pirate 🏴☠️ activity and punishable by death penalty . False news , bullshit news . Andrej Kondisenko Cairns Australia 🇦🇺
As said in this interview, the freedom of navigation is very strong. The Danish Straits are international waters, so the tankers can leagally enter Baltic Sea.
The information and insurance of all ships sailing in the Baltic Sea and visiting Russia must be examined before they are allowed to pass through the Danish Strait, and if everything is not in order, they will not be allowed to pass through.
International maritime law is clear! Those ships doesn’t fulfill requirements for ‘Innocent Passage’ through international waterways under ‘The Law Of the Sea’.
Heavily armed elite units of the Finnish border guard and police dropped from two military helicopters onto the deck of the tanker and the tanker is seized by Finland.
EU and NATO have every reason to announce that ANY destruction of any Baltic Sea infreastucture will be considered an act of piracy until investigators can prove otherwise. All ships involved will be confiscated until investigation completed. If proved it was not an accident ships crew will be put on trial to determine responsibility of ea, and the seizure and selling off of ship. Any country whose ships, via registration or ownership will be barred from EU and allied ports, any ship in those countries seized and impounded across the world and sold off to pay for damages, repairs, replacement and fines. All well within legal frameworks. While ships owners can fight this, and even Russia to take to international court, it will take years, decades to trial out and until then ships rust in ports. The 'secret' ship owners would also need to expose themselves to fight impoundment. Gov't can then use that to trace back those owners supporters. Of course, no reason you can't declare destruction of charted undersea cables an act of war. No reason it can't be.
@Luiki-o2vWait a minute.. Didn't the damage happen in the Finnish sea area? Yes it did. After which the "foreign" ship went to the international sea area, from where it was "forced" to return to Finnish territory for investigations, because the broken sea cable broke at the same time as where / where the ship was traveling? Or am i wrong🤔?
WHO would do that? WHO has that kind of fleet? At The moment 300 tankers in Baltic sea. It is not one or two ships per Day. There are lots and lots of tankers in very poor condition. The one that was stopped had Been in accidents several Times, changed name 5 Times and in need of lots of repair.
Congratulations to both: TT (the interviewed) and JR (interviewer). Could it be that between the "sanctity of property" and "sacra sanctity of property" the inaction emerges?🤔
!00%... we need to send every single one home regardless of NHL points + full suspension from all organizations WE put in-place to ensure never again means never again.... arguably we all tried accepting them post collapse of USSR but time and time again they've shown us their true colours... pure evil... a British mentor of mine taught me back in the 80's: leopard's don't change their spots... that clearly defines Vatniks...and I've had enough... it's beyond ridiculous.
100%... me too... we need to send every single one home regardless of NHL points + full suspension from all organizations WE put in-place to ensure never again means never again.... arguably we all tried accepting them post collapse of USSR but time and time again they've shown us their true colours... pure evil... a British mentor of mine taught me back in the 80's: leopard's don't change their spots... that clearly defines Vatniks...and I've had enough... it's beyond ridiculous.
If russia is allowed to gain any land by means of this invasion then they will be back for the rest if not in nato by then. The russians went after the rest of ukraine after merkel shook his hand and bought his oil. No consequences, of consequence, were enacted after the russian invasion and illegal annexation of crimea. So no wonder he went back for the rest. He saw that nothing of consequence would happen.
Too much moral/legalistic fastidiousness in the face of aggression is fatal. Property rights are not divinely ordained. It is perfectly common in the domestic law of most states for individual and corporate rights such as property rights to be superceded in situations where a law-breaking individual or entity has assets seized or fines imposed. Why should it not be the same in international law? And if the accused party's defence is that they do not recognise that international law, then it is simply a proportional response to advise them that therefore they cannot rely on its protections. Seize their damn money!
Actually, Scandanavian countries and Baltic countries economic zones include almost all of Baltic sea. Infrastructure in those zones and their protection clearly protected under maritime law. There is no reason those countries can board any ship in their economic zone to inspect if ships present a hazard. If they equipment is well maintained to prevent accidental anchor drop, GPS works, they have charts with cables etc, emergency generators working, engines in good condition, sanitary procdeures adequate, leaks, bilge discharge. You could keep a ship sitting in the sea a day, or two, or three. If you debate that, you can't debate doing that when going through Scandnavian channels where passage is within a few miles of coasts. NATO and EU should fund and provide ships and personal to do so to every ship, both sides. To protect against ships grounding in storms while waiting for boarding, they can be ordered back into open ocean areas not part of economic or exploitation zones, or designated ports. Any ships that can prove electronically, file previously, significant insurance via acceptable companies, certainly based in countries that respect the rule of law, democracy, etc. to allow for victims proper compensation, which lets out Russia, China, tax havens, etc.. Lets face it. EU don't care about anything other than 'real' EU countries, France, Germany, and a few around them, Holland, etc.. Greece Italy Spain all considered inferior, E. Europe barbarians, Turkey 'unholy' terrorists, Baltics less than Gypsies, Scandnavians 'alien race'. It's the product of 3,000? more yrs of European racism that led to constant war for 2900 of those years. and BILLIONAIRES OWN GOV"T Bought or blackmailed / extorted / entrapped every national gov't official but a few of the most inconsequential to leave some plausible deniability to that. That includes UK and US, most certainly UK and US.
@@274727 Yes, it's near stupid that Russia exploded their own pipeline or damaged cable with Arabian Emirates tanker with Indian and Georgian crew, which was shipping their sanctioned fuel. Haven't you ever heard about thing " Natos sisämeri". You really can't see this possibility?
What is going on? The Russians started to sabotage their own gas pipeline in the Baltic sea and now the Finns are cutting their own underwater power cables?
I really have to give a hand to our Finnish authorities. The last Chinese ship to cut a cable was guarded by the Danish and German on the international waters for weeks, before they let the Chinese conduct the (surely by the book) investigation. Now Finnish special forces just immediately boarded the ship and forced it into Finnish territorial waters for investigation. Finland again showing others how international terrorists should be handled.
Sounds like piracy. But that's nothing new for the nazi sidekick nation.
Yes . But taking over ships 🚢 in international waters is Pirate 🏴☠️ activity and punishable by death penalty . False news , bullshit news . Andrej Kondisenko Cairns Australia 🇦🇺
As an alternative, ships going to Russia will not be allowed into the Baltic Sea
As said in this interview, the freedom of navigation is very strong. The Danish Straits are international waters, so the tankers can leagally enter Baltic Sea.
The information and insurance of all ships sailing in the Baltic Sea and visiting Russia must be examined before they are allowed to pass through the Danish Strait, and if everything is not in order, they will not be allowed to pass through.
International maritime law is clear! Those ships doesn’t fulfill requirements for ‘Innocent Passage’ through international waterways under ‘The Law Of the Sea’.
Heavily armed elite units of the Finnish border guard and police dropped from two military helicopters onto the deck of the tanker and the tanker is seized by Finland.
EU and NATO have every reason to announce that ANY destruction of any Baltic Sea infreastucture will be considered an act of piracy until investigators can prove otherwise. All ships involved will be confiscated until investigation completed. If proved it was not an accident ships crew will be put on trial to determine responsibility of ea, and the seizure and selling off of ship. Any country whose ships, via registration or ownership will be barred from EU and allied ports, any ship in those countries seized and impounded across the world and sold off to pay for damages, repairs, replacement and fines.
All well within legal frameworks. While ships owners can fight this, and even Russia to take to international court, it will take years, decades to trial out and until then ships rust in ports. The 'secret' ship owners would also need to expose themselves to fight impoundment. Gov't can then use that to trace back those owners supporters.
Of course, no reason you can't declare destruction of charted undersea cables an act of war. No reason it can't be.
Exactly like that
Malači Somi ! Sveiki no Latvia 🇱🇻
The pirates of Somalia and Finland make busines together.The ship was on an international water area.
@Luiki-o2v lol. It was a suspect of terrorism.
@Luiki-o2v Yes, sabotaging Finnish-Estonian infrastructure. That is a fair reason for an intervention, international waters or not.
@Luiki-o2vWait a minute.. Didn't the damage happen in the Finnish sea area? Yes it did.
After which the "foreign" ship went to the international sea area, from where it was "forced" to return to Finnish territory for investigations, because the broken sea cable broke at the same time as where / where the ship was traveling? Or am i wrong🤔?
0:24 mystery-hardly; we know who is doing it.
If you can create a no-fly zone, why not a no-sail zone for Ruzzian ships in the Baltic Sea area?
Actually, there has been always been really strict rules who owns the gargo, every shipman or captain know them.
Incoterms, as if you want to google
That painting of Jesus holding the Guy Fawkes mask and people cheering is just too good :D
I went through similar mental process!
All ships should be escorted in and out .
WHO would do that? WHO has that kind of fleet? At The moment 300 tankers in Baltic sea. It is not one or two ships per Day. There are lots and lots of tankers in very poor condition. The one that was stopped had Been in accidents several Times, changed name 5 Times and in need of lots of repair.
✨🇸🇪💞🇫🇮✨
Congratulations to both: TT (the interviewed) and JR (interviewer). Could it be that between the "sanctity of property" and "sacra sanctity of property" the inaction emerges?🤔
Sick and tired of russia...and sick and tired of our lame response to their attacks on us (EU/Nato).
!00%... we need to send every single one home regardless of NHL points + full suspension from all organizations WE put in-place to ensure never again means never again.... arguably we all tried accepting them post collapse of USSR but time and time again they've shown us their true colours... pure evil... a British mentor of mine taught me back in the 80's: leopard's don't change their spots... that clearly defines Vatniks...and I've had enough... it's beyond ridiculous.
100%... me too... we need to send every single one home regardless of NHL points + full suspension from all organizations WE put in-place to ensure never again means never again.... arguably we all tried accepting them post collapse of USSR but time and time again they've shown us their true colours... pure evil... a British mentor of mine taught me back in the 80's: leopard's don't change their spots... that clearly defines Vatniks...and I've had enough... it's beyond ridiculous.
Let's hear instead more Toilet Tales talk of peace and giving Russia gifts of Ukrainian lands and ignoring Russia war crimes 🫤
If russia is allowed to gain any land by means of this invasion then they will be back for the rest if not in nato by then. The russians went after the rest of ukraine after merkel shook his hand and bought his oil. No consequences, of consequence, were enacted after the russian invasion and illegal annexation of crimea. So no wonder he went back for the rest. He saw that nothing of consequence would happen.
no.
I did not know this expression "Toilet Tales".
Too much moral/legalistic fastidiousness in the face of aggression is fatal. Property rights are not divinely ordained. It is perfectly common in the domestic law of most states for individual and corporate rights such as property rights to be superceded in situations where a law-breaking individual or entity has assets seized or fines imposed. Why should it not be the same in international law? And if the accused party's defence is that they do not recognise that international law, then it is simply a proportional response to advise them that therefore they cannot rely on its protections. Seize their damn money!
Thät Chinä cärgo ship stärt neär by St. Petersburg ..Sosnovi borg ... Soink Soikino port .. 22 km/ 14 miles / 12 NM ät St.Petesburg ( SW 210 deg ) .
Actually, Scandanavian countries and Baltic countries economic zones include almost all of Baltic sea. Infrastructure in those zones and their protection clearly protected under maritime law. There is no reason those countries can board any ship in their economic zone to inspect if ships present a hazard. If they equipment is well maintained to prevent accidental anchor drop, GPS works, they have charts with cables etc, emergency generators working, engines in good condition, sanitary procdeures adequate, leaks, bilge discharge. You could keep a ship sitting in the sea a day, or two, or three. If you debate that, you can't debate doing that when going through Scandnavian channels where passage is within a few miles of coasts. NATO and EU should fund and provide ships and personal to do so to every ship, both sides. To protect against ships grounding in storms while waiting for boarding, they can be ordered back into open ocean areas not part of economic or exploitation zones, or designated ports. Any ships that can prove electronically, file previously, significant insurance via acceptable companies, certainly based in countries that respect the rule of law, democracy, etc. to allow for victims proper compensation, which lets out Russia, China, tax havens, etc..
Lets face it.
EU don't care about anything other than 'real' EU countries, France, Germany, and a few around them, Holland, etc.. Greece Italy Spain all considered inferior, E. Europe barbarians, Turkey 'unholy' terrorists, Baltics less than Gypsies, Scandnavians 'alien race'. It's the product of 3,000? more yrs of European racism that led to constant war for 2900 of those years.
and
BILLIONAIRES OWN GOV"T
Bought or blackmailed / extorted / entrapped every national gov't official but a few of the most inconsequential to leave some plausible deniability to that. That includes UK and US, most certainly UK and US.
do something ffs
totäl dämege is 5million + high märket price 20 million + exträ experts änd märine pätrol bills = eäcj eäch däy 30 million cosy costs!!
if äb äveräge price is 1kWh 12 cents ..then äfter thät dämäge get price cä 32 cents 1 kWh
Legality 🤣🤣🤦♂️
NATO destroyed the cables. This is the same logic that blamed Russia for destroying Nordstream.
In your Dreams!
It's possible.
@@eerotabell1952 NATO destroyed the cables with a Russian shadow fleet ship? Think about how stupid that sounds? 🤪
@@274727 Yes, it's near stupid that Russia exploded their own pipeline or damaged cable with Arabian Emirates tanker with Indian and Georgian crew, which was shipping their sanctioned fuel. Haven't you ever heard about thing " Natos sisämeri". You really can't see this possibility?
@@eerotabell1952 Dream on! The mental gymnastics you have to make to defend russia is amazing. 🙄
SONOBOUYS.
Whstever happened to the nordstream pipeline?
Russia. They must pay.
FOG OF UNNECESSARY WAR
doesn't matter.
Voiko trump aiheuttaa
Paniikkia merliikenteesenki,totta kai.
What is going on? The Russians started to sabotage their own gas pipeline in the Baltic sea and now the Finns are cutting their own underwater power cables?
In your Dreams!
You have a gift for comedy!
Four ships, not one ship in the Black Sea. Disliked.
Another Propaganda channel
yeah, they're here trying to distract from Russia.
The Pirates of Finland.The tanker was on an international waters.
In your Dreams!