The Best Value Enduro Bike - 2022 Canyon Torque 29 AL 5
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ส.ค. 2024
- It's time that I try out a full 29er again and with the latest advancements in geometry... The Torque 29 AL 5 fits the bill perfectly. Canyon has finally created their Torque as a 29er and it is a freeride machine that can eat up park laps all day long, while also holding it's own for the enduro crowd. Additionally, Canyon is crushing the competition with their price point on this bike and the components list is on point. Tell me your thoughts and where to ride next in the comments below!
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I've fixed the brake cable rub! See how plus more of my thoughts on the Torque here: th-cam.com/video/_vufulPhRG4/w-d-xo.html
saving up to this bike! looks amazing but I prefer the raw silver color, awsome specs and the cons in my opinion aren't that a bad deal, subscribing to see that beast fly!
Awesome - have to agree that both color choices for this bike are pretty solid. And no doubt, the cons aren’t bad, especially because they nailed the important things like geometry - riding footage coming in the near future 🤘🏼
Been waiting for another video about the Torque, I can't wait to get mine in July!!! I have literally been checking the website every day!
100% the method I had to use in order to snag mine 😅 checked Canyon everyday! Once you get it - enjoy!!
Oh, finally a bike that dares with color! Not just matte/glossy black!
Interesting bike overall, honest review, liked it!
😂 agreed! This bike is definitely down to party!
I always get black so I can touch up with a permanent marker 👌
Already got a nukeproof mega 290 and regretted immediately once watched your video bro, this bike is terrific.
Wow the Torque is definitely my next bike - just found the channel and it needs so much more subs, excellent sound and video quality!!
Thank you 🙏🏼
Thanks for your time , the description about the bike details were awesome, the quality of your video was superb.
Thank you 🙏🏼
Yooo this video turned out sick!! Was a pleasure to help you shoot it!!
Couldn’t agree more 🤘🏼 beautiful work, as always!
I have mine from october 2022. I only had problems with cable rattle when removing and installing shigura, wheelset is not so great if you ride stairs but in woods its fine for the price but other than that shifting is okay, brakes work really well ( I just wanted to try magura mt7 pro with shimano levers from the bike and its working really well.. The feeling when riding is awesome. Easy to do tricks on and stable when going fast downhill. Overall 9.8/10 for this bike, but after 600 euros of upgrades it works like a 5000 euros bike and it feels much better soo 11/10.
Nice new whip…. FOX racing has some nice retro gear that would match that color scheme.. Oh by the way zip ties rule! Just don’t cut the long end off so they hit the spokes and make some noise to cover the cable rattle!! 😂
Thanks Jeremy! And ooooo, you might be onto something with the Fox kits. Plus, they’ll hear me coming from a mile away 😂
That colour looks so nice 😍
I have the mullet torque and I have to definitely agree on the saddle not only is it to narrow it’s got sharp edges
Mine also came with a messed up break lever and the stem is also crap that can become easily stripped out
Good to hear it isn’t just me with the saddle. Sorry to hear about your brake lever issue!
Chainguide also broke from breathing on it
@@1998nathanr yeah, I forgot to mention the chain guide in my video. Mine is an e13 (I would assume that yours is the same), and unfortunately e13 is notorious for inferior equipment. That said, chain guides aren't really needed or useful with modern drivetrains, and I'll likely remove mine entirely.
amazing work guys! SICK edit and INSANE bike ! Let's go for a ride !
Thanks Umberto! Let’s do it 🤘🏼
stumbled into this video and your channel! I got to say, it was really entertaining, very informative and overall a great video! definitely subbing
Thanks Addison 🙏🏼 let me know if there’s any specific topics you’d like to see covered in the future!
@@GlobalTrailGuide absolutely!
The carbon model doesn't have that messy cables doesn't rattle they run inside the rear triangle
I assumed that would be the case, thanks for the insight! My AL Commencal Clash also runs through the rear triangle, quite nicely
I subscribed due to the level of editing on this video.
The real MVP - thank you 🙏🏼
Awesome bike dude! I just bought that same bike but they are going to deliver it at end of the summer super stoked about it.
Heck yeah 🤘🏼 glad you could snag one, you’ll love it!
I’d say a good comparison to this would be the 2021 GT Force 29. Alloy frame, 150mm of rear travel, 170mm up front. I got one for $3500 (USD) with a Fox Performance 38, Performance Elite DPX2, Sram Code R brakes, Stans Flow S1 wheels, and an NX Eagle drivetrain. I’m pretty sure GT is still producing them along side of the 2022 Force Carbon. Plus the Force has all external routing which I personally prefer
Thanks for sharing! Just took a look on GTs website, looks like it’s $3800 now, which prices it quite a bit above the Torque (or Spectral). Still, like you said, not a bad build spec if you’re a Sram fan. Only complaint I have is the dropper is too short, 125mm for S and 150mm for M-XL. Geo does look quite nice for anyone looking for a well rounded all mountain bike. Thanks again for sharing! There’s so many bikes out there it’s hard to check them all for comparison.
@@GlobalTrailGuide I’m pretty sure it comes with a 125mm post on the medium as well, or at least mine did, but at 5’6” I don’t need a longer post. Also I had a spreadsheet of probably close to 60 bikes and I definitely missed a few good ones when it came down to deciding on which one to go for, so I totally get how hard it is to find every possible comparison. Plus the geo is fantastic, especially in the low setting.
@@anthonywalters7434 60 bikes, now that's being thorough! I tip my hat to you sir! Thanks again for sharing your insights and I'm glad you're enjoying your new ride!
Sweet ride dude! 🤙👌
Thanks man!
I have a 2011 torque that I love dearly. I run it as a 26/27.5 mullet. Its cables are internally routed through the chain stay, but not though the down tube. Funny to see that the reverse is true on the 2022 model.
Very interesting! That is quite funny. If I had to choose one and couldn’t have both, I’d definitely prefer them to be routed through the front triangle - so much nicer looking and so much easier to clean mud off the down tube, etc. I’d still rather have both be internally routed though haha
@@GlobalTrailGuide Definitely! Hopefully one day I'll have some cash to buy the latest and greatest, but I gotta say even the now 10 year old Torque sends pretty hard. Honestly, most people wouldn't guess that it was that old just looking at the bike. Canyon always seems ahead of the curve in terms of design and the quality of bike you get for your $$. Plus the bikes always seem to look absolutely gorgeous.
@@deathhamster_2213 a reputable brand for sure! The Torque is now my 3rd Canyon. I don't have any brand bias, but they keep me coming back with the value they offer! Glad to hear you're still digging your "old" ride as well - any bike will do as far as I'm concerned!
Thinking of replacing my 2021 remedy 8 for this, looks awesome and the price is solid
Very easy, very practical!
If you want a good kit, check out kaos segraves kit from hardline 2019 or 2020 I think. Dharco also have sick kits to match your sick bike! 🤙
Oooooo Kaos’ kit is money from that year (2019), good memory!! Now if only I could ride like him to pull off that kit 😅 thanks for the Dharco rec as well - I’ll check them out
@@GlobalTrailGuide yeah, of course!
Canyon is definitely the most affordable bike brand and for the price you get really good quality
Couldn’t have said it better myself!
nice critique 🎉
Thank you!
Thanks for this GREAT and honest review 👏👏🙏. I was shocked when you said 29". I think this was 27,5" only 😁
Thank you! And I was very excited for the release of this new 29 version as well! Had my eyes set on the Spectral prior to this
I love the pricing, but that external cabling is not good. And no mullet 29 in small size is bad. I'm looking at the Gt force instead. All though much more expensive 😜
@@stianjarnass which ever you choose, I’m sure you’ll be happy - there aren’t many ‘bad’ bikes nowadays!
I secretly bought this one for the color :)
Can’t beat the color!
yo that dropper tho ill take it
Preach! Also hoping to get my hands on the new OneUp 240mm at some point
Love the colors :)
Thank you 🌈
Wow ! For the price that bikes pretty amazing ! Great review, got me stoked to buy a canyon for my partner ! Aha
Thank you! Hope your partner enjoys the new ride 🤘🏼
Excellent video! Thanks I had a spectral canyon recommended size medium it was too small I returned it. That Torque looks sick but is that color scheme available in US?
Thank you! Currently the color isn’t available in the US
Hey! I'm wondering how tall are you? I also ordered a Medium from Canyon's recommendation and for the time I waited, I really don't want to return it.
@@DoMN15 5' 11" with shoes/socks probably 6' 0"; for me the reach was slightly less than and the wheelbase was longer than my current 2016 Intense Spider 27.5 (carbon). I even called Canyon customer service and they said I'm a Medium. But in reality I'm typically borderline medium or large for most brands at that height. Richie Rude is 5' 11" and he rides a medium Yeti SB150 (see this month's MTB action bike check).
searched everywhere but couldn't found it !
im subscribing this video is amazing
Thank you 🙏🏼
is it true that you can run mullet with the flip chip on the 29 carbon? i don't see that advertised on the site, but it would be cool
From Canyon’s perspective (as well as other brands), they would tell you that the mullet bike is specifically designed for mixed wheels and that the 29er is specifically designed for 29 wheels. They’d say the bikes were optimized for the wheels. And they aren’t wrong, the rear triangles are technically different.
However, consumers have been experimenting with different mullet setups prior to the brands designing them. When doing so, many consumers would often rely on a 29er in the high flip chip position and then use a 27.5 wheel. With the thought being that the smaller wheel offsets the difference in geo from the high position. Your results will vary from bike to bike, and I haven’t personally tested it with the Torque to give feedback for how it rides or if it’s a realistic thing to try. Some 29ers will be too low when you try to mullet them. A 2.6 or 2.8 27.5 tire can also help to keep the rear axle higher though.
@@GlobalTrailGuide makes sense, could be fun to try after having the bike for a while
Sto giusto pensando di comprarla anch'io, ma nella versione AL 6 e con ruote da 27,5, però te come ti trovi con le 29? Attualmente ho un frontino da 29 e le trovo un po' ingombranti, anche se sono alto 1.85 🤔
Sono sempre stato un fan di 29, ma tutto dipende dalle preferenze personali. Se ti piace 27.5, allora provaci! Le differenze sono marginali e se non stai correndo per soldi, allora scegli ciò che ti piace di più!
@@GlobalTrailGuide no per soldi no, ma il prossimo anno ho l'obiettivo di buttarmi nelle gare e lo farò con la Torque, da qui il dubbio se scegliere 29 o 27, basandomi solo su quello che ho letto su carta finora 😅 comunque grazie, rimango in attesa di vedere i prossimi video sulla Torque 😉
@@blusteryrain8829 Nessun problema, sono sicuro che sarai molto felice con qualsiasi cosa tu scelga! Grazie! Prossimamente
nice video dude! I am just wondering how long does it take for delivery? ( to home)
Thank man! All depends on the market that you’re in and first if the bike is immediately available when you order it. I believe all of these Torques are currently unavailable to order, and that next delivery windows are for Summer. You can sign up for notifications via the website.
When I ordered, it was for delivery in the first half of April - they arrived at the canyon warehouse early though and then shipped at the end of March. Mine shipped from Germany to Italy and arrived in just a couple days.
@@GlobalTrailGuide Thank you!
Great video buddy. Just wondering how tall you are and how you find the reach on the xl?
6’ 3” with long limbs - feels perfect. Very well balanced bike
@@GlobalTrailGuide cheers. I’m 6’2 with a 6’6 wingspan, do you think the XL might be a bit big for me?
@@kayakfishingaustralia1261 I’d imagine it will fit well! If you get one, let me know what you think!
This is a really nice video! I'm about to buy same bike... just to know, how tall are you? I'm 1.83cm and I'm not shure picking L or XL
Thank you for the video!
Thank you! I’m approx 190 cm with very long limbs, on XL. My guess is that you should go L - enjoy!
@@GlobalTrailGuide thank you very much!
Nice ivan. Did you sold you commencal?
Thanks John! I just made a video regarding my Clash: th-cam.com/video/eLVcydksDH0/w-d-xo.html
Hi great vid. Do you think xl would be too big for me at 191 / 87cm. I’m in the middle and had a series of bikes come up too small.
Hey, thank you! I think it will fit well. Im about the same, slightly taller, but also with absurdly long limbs haha.
Also, the seat tube is very low, so you shouldn’t have any issues with saddle height or standover.
Colore bellissimo
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nice review 💪
Thank you!
@@GlobalTrailGuide hopefully this channel is growing
@@METEORA_47 with the help of subscribers like you, it is! So tell your friends and keep the comments / likes flowing ❤️
Considering this bike. How does it pedal uphill? All my local trails require a lot of uphill pedalling.
Pedals efficiently, but is obviously very heavy. Compared to my Commencal, the pedaling efficiency and weight seem the same; however, I do appreciate that the Canyon has an even steeper seat tube angle. Very comfortable riding position. I also have ridiculous climbs
At the end of the day, it all comes down to fitness with heavy bikes like these. Or just spending more money for an ebike 😅
@@GlobalTrailGuide awesome, thanks for the insight.
If the fixed geometry is equivalent to the high flip chip setting on the carbon frames, you can still mullet it, right? (although the Spectral 29 is easier to mullet as it has shorter chainstay).
It’s not equivalent, which I consider to be a benefit overall, just not for trying a mullet.
Canyon says they provided the best of both worlds for the AL frames… the head angle is like the low position, at 63.5, and the seat angle is like the high position, at 78. Not sure how the BB sits relative to the carbon frames with flip chips.
Any complaints about the wheel? How is the Shimano hubs performance? Do you know if they are sealed bearings?
Yeaaahhhhh…. My rear hub axle snapped and it’s been over 2 months and still no warranty response 🤷♂️ the hub axle is a cup and cone design, and as far as I can tell Shimano is the only company that uses this design on mtbs (instead of the appropriate sealed cartridge bearings).
Quite unfortunate really. I’ve since bought a different set of wheels.
try torque mullet 5 and it solves your 7:50 problem
As 167 tall, iam about order this model in 27,5. Hope its worth money for some shaky trails. Sadle is not problem, we have not same ass... :D
I’m sure it will be well worth it! Still thoroughly enjoying mine 🤘🏼 enjoy when you receive yours!
At 167 what aize did tou buy?
I'm curious to know the weight of this XL beast. Under 17kg?
Canyon claims 16.4kg, but that’s without pedals so it’s definitely pushing 17, but I’m still pumped anyways and can’t wait to ride it!
@@GlobalTrailGuide I'm looking forward to see more videos about this rig. I'm sure that the weight is a secondary problem 💪
@@lucarosa1761 thanks man! Looking forward to getting some seat time and making those vids! Definitely a secondary issue to me, it’s not any different than my Commencal Clash, and I’ve come to realize that weight really helps on the downhills 🚀
@@GlobalTrailGuide I'm a tall rider and I had always to ride big and heavy bikes (loyal to alloy).. not a problem if the geometry is good enough
@@lucarosa1761 definitely! As am I, about 193cm. However I am very light at 70kg. Carbon is super strong as well… until you smash it into anything 😅
this canyon is awesome.sick color and i love in it.only 29er?i love 27.5 🥺
The Torque is available as 27.5 also, including this color (for the Euro market at least). However, only sizes small through large, no XL like mine.
@@GlobalTrailGuide nice...this color is so sick and my size is M.is this color available for the asian market?
@@METEORA_47 I looked up Canyon Japan and see the color available in 27.5. Canyon is a direct to consumer company, meaning all of their bikes are purchased online and shipped to your door. So head over to their website and check them out 🤘🏼
@@GlobalTrailGuide nice.thanks for your information 💪
How many mm is the rear shock stroke? Also, is the rear shock the same as the 27.5 inch model?
The shock is 250x70 in both 29 and 27.5 according to Canyon
Anybody out here around 180cm and riding this bike in M or L and can talk about their experience sizing wise?
Hi! 1.83 here and my so is 1.85 and we ride Ls. It's a good fit, we had to set the saddles max back tho.
I’m around 5’8 (currently on a med) and online only the large is in stock, would you recommend it?
It’s a big and long bike, it’s probably best to wait for a medium. Canyon recommends medium for anyone under 5’ 10”.
The reach on a size large is 485mm, compare that with your current bike and if it’s too large of an increase then that’s an additional indicator to stay on a medium.
If you choose to wait, hopefully they’ll come in stock soon for you!
@@GlobalTrailGuide Ok, thanks 👍
It looks like your paint is Easter themed. Bold choice.
Bold choice indeed, but I’m loving it 🤘🏼
Nice video! how tall are you?
Thanks! 193cm, size XL
Hello! Can you "lock" rear and front shocks? I mean with the stiffness lever?
Hey there! The rear shock has a lockout lever however it doesn’t fully lock out. I don’t ever feel the need to flip the switch though.
Front fork has a single low compression dial that also will stiffen the fork feel, but not fully lockout.
@@GlobalTrailGuide thanks for fast asnwer!!!
I wish this colour came on the more expansive carbon versions
It’s amazing to me that Canyon spec’d this color on the cheapest build only. I love it!
End how much of thousand of dollars it is ?
It varies based on your market and currency, but you can find it on Canyon’s website. Thanks for watching!
Hi, I’m looking to buy it but I’m 155 cm tall and I want a medium rather than a small. How tall are you and what size is yours?
Hey Ari, I’m on the opposite end of the spectrum at 193cm and riding an XL.
According to Canyon, a M 27.5 model is for riders 172cm - 185cm. A M 29 is for
@@GlobalTrailGuide hi I’d prefer to rather get a medium 27.5 but would I be able to ride it and reach the pedals?
@@arischneider5710 the seat tube is cut very low on this bike, and the standover is also low. So I’d imagine that yes, you would be able to ride it; however I don’t know if you would feel too stretched out reaching for the handlebars. Canyon’s customer service team can probably help to provide some insight if you wanted to contact them
I have clash 2021 and thinking of selling it to get AL6 as clash is a bit overbike for me wonder if its worth it to do so
Respectfully, if the Clash is too much bike, the Torque probably is too. They’re very similar. One is 27.5 and the other is a 29er. They’re both very slack, long travel, heavy aluminum bikes.
@@GlobalTrailGuide oh shit I thought that video was about Spectral AL6 hahah
@@Bonzo_MTB haha, all good! Spectral definitely leans closer towards the trail bike category, but is still very slack and capable. Personally if I went Spectral, I'd go carbon. The weight savings would turn it into an excellent all around machine. Plus Canyons carbon models are an excellent value compared to most brands.
I wanna buy this bike to drive to work everyday. Is it fast?
Unless your commute to work involves black diamond singletrack - I wouldn’t recommend it. This isn’t the bike for that. With proper enduro tires it rolls very slow.
If you want this bike, buy it, but also buy a cheap road / hybrid bike (like $100-$300) for commuting.
And if you’re trolling 🫡
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Love where your heads at 😂🌈
For clothing maybe something like Ripndip stuff
First time hearing of it, they’ve definitely got that throwback style! Appreciate the suggestion!
Great video! I'm not sure about the sizing tho, I'm 182 cm tall or just below 6ft. I can't decide between M or L. Anyone have the same experience?
I see you haven’t gotten a response yet, hopefully someone of similar size can chime in. That’s a tough call. Canyon says M is 185cm and less, large is 180-194. I’m 193 and super comfortable on my XL. I’d recommend comparing the reach numbers with your current bike and deciding from there based on if you want a quicker handling bike (smaller size) or more stable bike (larger size)
Did you end up buying the bike in either size?
I think a large would definitely be the right size
how would this compare to a yt capra core 1?
Overall, the capra is ever so slightly tamer - not quite as slack, shorter chainstay, etc. From a components perspective, the core 1 and torque AL 5 share the same suspension and similar entry level wheels, however, the capra is Sram NX vs the torque’s Shimano Deore. Most would agree that Shimano deore is way better than NX drivetrain. I also prefer Shimano brakes over Sram.
@@GlobalTrailGuide thank you!
thats a size xl, how tall are you?
6’3.5”
if you order one for Canada, add +30%, for taxes and fees. it becomes near the cost of everything else.
Looks is so dope! I wish more bikes were fun colors. Commencal has ass colors imo
Thanks man 🤘🏼 I have to agree, more brands should get rowdy (and on low end builds). Also agree the Commencal can be hit or miss, bland at the least. But colors are always cyclical. They used to be bright and colorful, so now they’re onto the earthy tones. However, I do really love the new purple they released this year. I think I saw it on a Meta HT and a SX (maybe?)
That's a really weird complaint about sizing stickers. It is on every bike. Lol.
This is true, but they’re usually tastefully placed inside of the front triangle. Not on the back of the seat tube (plus these stickers are hideous, not made to last, and the size is already painted on the top tube).
@@GlobalTrailGuide Think you nailed it there.. they're meant to be taken off.. just like the tags on clothing!
What size is? Looks like they run large.
You look like a tall guy and the bike still looks big on you so I’m wondering the size because I’m like 5’9” and I’m considering the medium
It’s an XL, I’m a bit over 6’ 3” - fits true to size in my experience
What is the frame size?🔥
XL
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Oh snap!! You’re onto something there, loads of options - thanks man!
This is my first road th-cam.com/users/postUgkxMesz3KOGEmwmvyKQfLfrRSUXLFzfVHZA and I have taken it out a handful of times and so far it is exceeding all of my expectations. I didn’t want to break the bank on a first bike and the herd is a great option for getting a fast bike with reliable components. I plan on riding this bike for many years to come. Thank you Sava!
I agree with everything except “commuter” 😅 if you commute on a 37 lb bike with enduro tires, mad props 💪🏼
How tall arę you
193cm, thanks for asking, sorry I forgot to mention that!
At 190cm - "I am not even a big person".
😅 it’s all relative. However I didn’t mention my weight, I only weigh 70kg
2021 capra base al was a better deal but that bike is now out of stock 😢
Also super outdated geometry. I once had a 2018 which is still the same design as 2021. So to me, it doesn’t qualify as a contender. However, I still appreciate you sharing it as an option
@@GlobalTrailGuide gotta you but also the commencal clash all of the cheaper models got with like 500 euros more expensive which is pretty sad
@@fbi-fipo1618 agreed! That’s why I focused on the value of this Torque, pretty incredible compared to the rest of the market. Commencal selling ~3100€ bikes without droppers, yari forks, etc.
bro what do you expect for 3000$
I mean shoot, if $3000 is nothing to you then I’ll happily let you fund my future bike purchases 😂
@@GlobalTrailGuide no it looked like you would expect that everiting would be berfeckt for that price . i did not meen it like that sorryy
@@nikolausseiringer7211 no worries! I just think it’s fair to say we should expect more for $3000. Especially when,m other manufacturers don’t have cable routing issues at the same price point.
@@GlobalTrailGuide ya
This guy would have a heart attack if he road a 2005-2005 bike regarding cabling.
The bikes are very expensive but are still exceptionally well made and have internal cabling as advertised. Just not everywhere. Just get some zip ties
You’re not wrong, but we also aren’t living in 2005 anymore and it’s reasonable to have higher expectations 🙂 it’s our hard earned money, let’s expect the most from the industry. The little things add up!
@@GlobalTrailGuide My point was missed. What for you can be considered a misstep on this manufacturers part might have a reason beyond being a cheapening strategy to maximize profit on an already overpriced item. It might have to do, for instance, maintenance where cable accessibility, can be key to service that particular bike or swap or replace components. Sometimes internal cable routing might have gone too far and stops the rider from effectively customizing the bike to its needs and taste. It is still a bicycle after all. In 2003-2005 the standards from what we expect from high end bikes weren't different, we valued in the same way our hard earned money but there was a criticism focused on other aspects of owning a MTB. Cabling was rarely an issue no matter the price. And the same rough and challenging terrains were equally tackled with. Internal routing has as much of an engineering/practical application as a marketing/sales one.
You have all the right in the world to point out your personal misgivings with your bike, but I believe we have think about if in the end is a fair criticism and if it indeed will stop others from acquiring a product that, all things, considered might be what they're looking for and fits their budget.
@@Poraqui the primary basis for my argument is that I'm making comparisons to what I've seen from other brands. For example, my prior Commencal had a "square" tube on the chain stay to allow the cable to neatly run within it - easy to service and keeps the cable out of harms way, while also looking great.
I'm one of the consumers buying this bike because it fits my budget. I'm also informing others what to expect if they purchase the same bike, expanding in greater detail than what can be seen on Canyon's website.
Bro, you can remove the stickers.
Step 1 of any new bike
the effective top tube size makes its the worst value bike IMO
What don’t you like about it?
@@GlobalTrailGuide Its over 70mm Longer than a very long ENDURO bike... Its the Longest in the market. This is no good for pedaling efficiency. But it all depends on youre size and size of the bike.
@@ignaciosevil2157 I think Canyon might be measuring effective TT differently than everyone else. Their reach numbers are still comparable to other brands and that’s the figure most people rely on for determining size. Looking at Canyons geometry image, they’re measuring effective TT from the position of saddle center instead of seat tube center. I can assure you the bike fits just like every other enduro bike on the market, give or take 10mm.
Generally Commencals are referred to as the massive enduro bikes, look at the reach numbers (520 on XL clash and Meta AM).
Is this an April's fool bike? That's the vibe I'm getting from that color, unless you're actually gay?!
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