SUICIDE SQUAD (2016) REACTION | Is It As Bad As Everyone Says?
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- My first time watching Suicide Squad! Hope you all enjoy my reaction to the movie.
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Original Movie: Suicide Squad (2016)
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The funny thing is that only 40% of this movie is in the unreleased director's cut. And that 40% happens in a very different context. Basically no neon filter, no unnecessary pop song trying to mimic Guardians of the Galaxy's tone, a different 3rd act, Harley and Joker's relationship is more violent and abusive, Leto has some really good and funny Joker scenes (like the one where dr Van Criss tells Joker that if he deactivates Harley's neck-bomb, the other Squad members could die and Joker looks at him shocked and makes him feel stupid cause he thought that the fucking Joker cared about the Squad dying), Harley and Deadshot have a romance subplot, basically Harley becomes the heart of the movie and not just one of the main characters, the whole movie was edited by The Dark Knight's editor and not by a trailer company and Diablo the fucking fire god didn't die because of a bomb . Let's hope WB releases Ayer's Cut cause there's a good chance that it would be really good and apparently the scene in this movie that mostly reflects Ayer's cut is the bar scene before the final battle.
that bar scene is filler garbage
@@DaviniaHill I don't think you know what filler means
@@DaviniaHill Can't have snappy editing that's obviously cut out a bunch of stuff for time, and then add a filler scene to pad time.
@@DaviniaHill It's called Character development.
This was one of the earlier DCEU films which suffered a LOT from studio interference. Unlike Marvel, DC doesn't have a single person in charge of directing the flow of the overall story like Marvel has in Kevin Feige. So each film was at the mercy of the studio execs messing with it like a stand alone film rather than part of a greater story. This movie suffered, along with Justice League, the most from this trend.
Justice League suffered because its original director had a family tragedy. Then they hired a psychopath who turned it into a cartoon. Justice League Snyder Cut is a work of art. This movie suffered because they wanted it to be a comedy so they hired the trailer company to cut it to pieces.
@@davidcelona8167 Even if Snyder had not stepped down JL at that time would have been very different. Just one example the studio hated the scene in which Barry travels back in time to before The Unity, and they weren't going to use it. We were always going to get a lesser version of that film because of the DCEU's studio interference and lack of creative direction. Also Joss Whedon was brought on but given zero creative control of the rewrites. Basically he was told what to do and what to change by the studio who had assumed total control by that point. Bash him if you want but Joss has more amazing creations under his belt than most people can ever dream of... the horror story of that film is not his fault.
The main issue is that David Ayer tried a dark tone but after the success of the trailer, Warner Bros hired the company that made it, that's why the first minutes of the movie have so many songs and a lighter tone, more like GotG.
If you go back a look at the first trailer that was a surprise release at comicon, you can see the massive difference in tone from the final product. The "I Started a Joke" trailer. That's the movie I was hoping to see.
Warner Brothers was the true villain of Suicide Squad
@@vingrier87 Warner Bros also damaged The Hobbit significantly AND also ruined the matrix recently. They truly are the worst.
@@vingrier87 WB has always been the true villain of hte whole DCEU
@@jaybeepainting9413 Company sitting on a literal goldmine of IP and they have absolutely no idea what to do with it. We could’ve had so much but instead we get to hear Peacemaker go on about how Wonder Woman was totally ‘eye effing’ him from across a room
Every issue with this movie comes back to two factors:
1. Geoff Johns doing daily rewrites and demanding reshoots to make it lighter toned and more like Guardians of the Galaxy.
2. WB hiring the company that edited the trailer to edit the final cut.
David Ayer has been very vocal about this not being the movie he wanted to make.
The trailer house didn't do the final cut. They did a cut, parts of which the studio used.
Ayer has yet to make an actual good movie though.
@@patrickflanagan3762 Fury was very good
@@patrickflanagan3762 Ayer can’t avoid all blame and definitely has some crappy movies in his filmography but to suggest he’s never created a good movie is a bit silly. He wrote Training Day and also wrote/directed Fury & End of Watch which are widely well reviewed movies.
Opportunity for more cash by releasing Ayers' cut.
I'm just glad we got this performance by Margot Robbie. She is the highlight of both films, at least for me.
I agree Milton
@@Jakeyisdead who's Milton?
“Jim Carrey Joker.”
Took the words right out of my mouth.
That’s so accurate.
Jim Carrey was the riddler.
@@ernestinewhite907 he meant that Leto's joker looks like an impersonation of Jim Carrey if he played the joker.
Almost as if Joker is closer to being Jim Carrey than people want to admit.
Love that you enjoyed the Diablo character! I feel like I never hear anyone really talk about him, his flashbacks and story were so good. Harley Quinn and Diablo just made me fee something, him talking about his family and Harley when she’s on top of that car and has that vulnerable moment as the team is headed towards her.
Definitely not as bad as people say but it's definitely not good
We need an Ayer cut, cause this had so much potential
It’s hard for me to really hate this film because like you said, there’s some good moments in there and I feel like there is a decent film in there some where which makes it a frustrating watch. I really hope that we get to see David Ayer’s true vision one day! 🤞
I haven't seen a video of you critiquing a movie or show before but I actually really enjoy it, you have a lot to say and it shows how much you know about the medium. I'd love to see some more reactions to movies with lower public perceptions
REALLY hoping Doom Patrol on HBO is on that list. Brendan Fraser is incredible, not to mention Timothy dalton! April bowlbe is outstanding, Jovian wade as cyborg brings a great performance too! It’s super wacky and green lit for a fourth season so you’ve got plenty of content there!
Yes! And yeah the first few episodes are kinda stank but after that it just blows up into episodic greatness.
Doom Patrol has the best version of Cyborg! They give the character much more humanity than any of the films did.
Doom Patrol is underrated AF
That'd be cool but considering the show doesn't even get lots of attention from DC fans I'm not sure how that would go into view counts
@@jasminmujezinovic324 its sad that things like the new suicide squad and peacemaker get overrated and hyped to the high heavens while things like doom patrol get ignored
If you’ve seen Fury you’ve got an idea of what kind of filmmaker David Ayer is, and possibly what kind of film Suicide Squad could’ve been. Because I agree that it had great moments, but was bogged down with exposition and shlock.
Also while his Joker isn’t the best looking, I feel Jared Leto didn’t really get the chance to do anything with the character. That goes for a lot of the characters actually. Man, I was so disappointed in this movie and watching this video reminded me why. Looking forward to what you think of the 2021 Suicide Squad!
Imagine how good this film could have been without studio interference!
After reading the leaked stuff of the original cut…. we probably got the “better” version of the film lmao
@@wholockedholmes5600 if people who make assumptions upon leaked scripts were right then Todd Phillips' Joker would have sucked so hard but guess what movie won 2 Oscars and got 11 noms?
You should definitely check out Birds of Prey next before going into The Suicide Squad. It takes place in between the two movies and gives insight into Harley's character change.
All the music, editing and effects were not planned while filming, due to the trailer going massively viral the studio execs thought it would be a good idea to get the trailer editors heavily involved in editing the movie
Literally such a stupid idea hahahaha, the editing is way to much like the whole film is a trailer lmao
@@pimp_floyd5024 Who would have thought that being good at editing a trailer doesn't make you good at editing a movie.
Margot Robbie brought Harley Quinn to life so good.
So well. Yes I’m an English major Virgo here.
@@vincentjoyce5100 I used to respond to a manager that would ask "are you doing good?" With I'm doing well, superman does good. I've heard it's been used in a show or movie, but I haven't seen it if it has, and have said that for a couple decades.
I enjoyed it a lot. It wasn't incredible, Enchantress wasn't a great villain or anything but I felt Will Smith and Margot Robbie were tremendous.
same
I agree. I was so bummed he wasn’t in the next one because their chemistry/interactions was one of the best things about this movie.
@@calivibes_84 I also felt they have good chemistry, as they did a film together before "focus" about con artists and I always felt that was more enjoyable than it had any right to be, and after this movie I knew it was because Smith and Robbie was the reason why
Let’s hope David Ayer gets his director’s cut for this movie
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yeah
Nah. Not every movie deserves a director's cut. Justice league sets a bad precedent, a shit movie given a deluxe treatment to become....a LONG shit movie
@@floydharper1216 I see after almost a year after you are still crying. Yes, every director deserve his vision released without studio interference.
@@Alvaro-dg7hf lol not sure where you're getting crying from, but nah, why waste people's time?
I know it's bad but it's a guilty pleasure of mine!
Due for another rewatch at some point 😂
Birds Of Prey and 2021’s Suicide Squad are a significant improvement.
"I'm known to be quite vexing, I'm just forewarning you." This movie has some good parts aside from Margot Robbie, but nowhere near enough. And, yes, Leto's Joker comes across as just "performing crazy" next to Harley (the only scene of his that I like is the one with Griggs, which she's not in).
I'm looking to seeing your reactions to Birds of Prey and TSS (spoiler alert: they're much better).
Ah, and I see somebody recommended the Doom Patrol TV series. Yes, yes, yes!
I've actually never hated Jared Leto's Joker, I've always seen it as a continuation of Jack Nicholson's gangster Joker in modern times. I have to ask people could you see any other form of Joker (live action) having a relationship and love for Harley? The answer is no, so as bad as some people think he is I think its a good fit for the story beats they were going for. Will I always prefer Heath Ledger's version? Yes. But lets be fair guys, he's pretty far away from the comic character of Joker.
I really liked this movie, my only gripe about this movie is that it was way too short and they should have made it 2 hours longer. They should have had more scenes with the Joker and Harley Quinn. Other than that I love this movie. In my opinion, I love Jared Leto as the Joker and I'd have to say he is one of my favorite actors to have played the Joker. I know most people would disagree with me but I don't know I just love this movie. I wish they made the second movie like this one just I little bit better or made a separate movie with just focused on the Joker and Harley Quinn and bring back Margo Robbie and Jared Leto because the highlight of this movie for me was Harley Quinn and Joker.
I completely agree!
Can't wait for Slipknots solo sequel to this movie! 💣
I think the Extended Cut is pretty decent. There's a lot left out of the Theatrical release.
Only thing I can say is ‘The Suicide Squad’ is better
It always frustrated that several people say Task Force X is a counter to Superman and no one responds, "Sooo... what is the boomerang guy going to do against Superman? And the guy with the ropes? Are they Kryptonite ropes? No? So what are we even talking about here?"
It's called Bait.
Check out Batman: The Animated Series if you haven't already, you'll love it. Then there's Mask of the Phantasm... now that's a Batman movie you could set your watch to.
Mask of the Phantasm is the best theatrically released Batman film!
@@JCG52577 I saw it in the theater. Totally worth it. Then I bought the vhs tape.
Eh, while I do recommend he watches it , I hear some folks also recommending that Brandon watch The Animated Series as well. But if I was Brandon, I recommend he should hold on that one for a while, since another channel called Watchtower Database saw many inconsistencies that didn’t line up. So they are still trying to figure out what order do the episodes go in for timeline purposes.
(Though two thing are for certain: The movie Batman: Mask of the Phantasm, takes place right after the episode, Cape and Cowl Conspiracy since it’s the introduction of the Bat-Light, which shows up in that movie. And Robin or Harley Quinn didn't exist until after the movie.)
I've been a Subscriber for just about a year now and it finally dawned on me who you remind me of, Randy Santel the professional eater. I think it's the easy going, soft spoken positive attitude, the type of fellas you would want on your Beer Fest drinking team even if they can't hold their alcohol. Randy can drink a 6 pack in under a minute, you don't seem like a heavy drinker. I'm rambling 'cause I'm drinking beer right now. carry on.
Hey Brandon love your content! I was wondering what happened to the youtube reactions of Ozark I saw the first 3 on patreon but I dont think there were any more posted.
The full length reactions to all 3 seasons are on Patreon 😁
There are a few actors that clearly carried this film to show how much potential it really could have had: Margot (obviously), Cara for her mannerisms of Enchantress, Viola for how well she pulls off Waller and the actor for Diabloe. Rick Flag could have been so much more compelling, especially since June was his girlfriend, it fell flat (at least for me) in most parts. I actually don't mind this version of the Joker as preformative as he is (hate the tattoos especially), with how co-dependent he has Harley, I can see him doing these "honeymoon" manipulative tactics to keep her strung along so that when it does hit a low she'll always stay because these moments, I just wish it was been written out that way. Then it would make sense that the Joker is being performative because that's exactly what it is, performance to keep her at his side, but this might've just come down to the actor's performance.
yes
Keep up the Great Work my man, been watching for 1-2yrs🔥
Really appreciate it!!
This movie wasn't THAT bad (still flawed though). It was just an example of a director having a totally different vision from the studio and both visions fought and clashed. Same thing happened with Zack Snyder and Warner, until we got Zack's actual version.
I agree. I don't get the total hate that this film gets. There were parts that didn't work for me, but it certainly isn't the worst movie ever made. Some of the comments on how awful this movie is seems a little over the top.
@@iamredoctober Well put
Jim Carrey didn't cast Joker, he was playing The Riddler but people are missinterpret him ;-) Anything else on point and many people recognize problems with editing and pacing. This movie was three time reedited and after first critics watching more cuted to be more like trailer (which was done by external company not having all material of final movie). So at the end we are lucky Suicide Squad if in this shape :-D
It's the bar scene.
I was enjoying how bad this was til that scene, and it just kinda hit me how good this movie coulda been.
I don't know if there's comic lore for any other villain impersonating joker, but I think it's the perfect way to either explain this joker in your head cannon or a reason to bring him back.
I really don't hate this Leto character, it just doesn't feel like joker. Wouldn't mind him seeing do something with this version of the character.
Had they stuck with David Ayer's original vision, or at least stuck closer to Batman: Assault on Arkham, it would've been so much better; if you haven't seen it already, The Suicide Squad is what a live action Suicide Squad movie should be; watching the animated shows and films really helps as well
You hit all the nails in the head on your review/reaction to this film. For those of us who were waiting for this project you could imagine the disappointment leaving the theatre with the final product. The 2021 was a major upgrade in my opinion, James Gunn killed it.
There is a comic calles the 3 jokers which goes into the 3 different people who have been 'the joker' down the years, 1st was the criminal, very much the jack Nicholson portrayal, pragmatic and serious, then you have the clown joker, heath ledgers more showman, theatrical performance, then you have the comedian, and he is meant to be more psychopathic which is what they aimed for with leto. Weirdly in the joker film with phoenix his joker was called Arthur, not a name connected to the joker almost like he is someone that inspired the others to become 'the joker' as its an image that gives fear to gotham after what happened live on tv.... That or arthur imagined the whole thing, lol
Release the Ayer-cut^^
yeah!!!!
Out of all the characters in this movie Katana is most deserving of her own movie, she's got a great backstory. She's also an extended member of the Bat-Family and was Bruce's number 1 choice when forming the original Outsiders team so you know she's got skills. I'd watch a Katana movie directed by Quentin Tarantino.
In the comics Katana was one of the main characters but not because Waller wanted her there, she was Batman's Insider (see what I did there?), it's how Bat's was always one step ahead of Waller and knew all her plans.
Your set is looking good Brandon!
Thanks Roger!
This movie had so much potential.
2021 Suicide Squad is way better, but the tone is entirely different too. And the fun parts don't fall flat.
7:54, Yes, exactly! That's what the original video was supposed to be. They fight the Joker in the first film, then fight the Enchantress in the second film, but the producers refused.
This movie was actually re-edited by the trailer company prior to release which is why it feels like a music video at times with its music and editing pace
Harley knocked herself out on the bars because the shock resurfaced her memories of how she was treated there when she was strapped and gagged and wanted a quick escape from those memories
Without spoiling. Jared Leto gets another short scene as The Joker in another movie, without the grill teeth or the stupid "damaged" tattoo, and with different directing. And he does a way better job and shows he could have played a much better joker than we got.
Also Katana’s actress plays Kimiko in The Boys. Glad she got another chance to shine instead of being remembered for this
In this case the mask was pretty beneficial :-D
This Joker is indeed based off one from the comics, but they just didn't give him the screen time to make him seem like a believable character. Or at least didn't choose the right scenes
The moment that seems most like the Joker is when he breaks into the place where they make the explosives for the squad members, when he grabs the injector without really even stopping to consider anything about it, and just says “this looks neat” before immediately injecting the scientist with the explosive. Definitely a move that any version of the Joker would do. Beyond that, who he most reminded me of was Tuco in Breaking Bad, what with the teeth, the tattoos, and the random bombastic behavior.
And they deleted a scene where Joker notices that the security guard that took the bomb in his face is still alive, so he takes a hammer and smashes it on his face being like "Are you kidding me? Some people just don't know when to die". Or even a scene where a judge joins his wife in bed only to find out that his wife is actually the Joker who just says "yawn come to bed honey" and scares the shit outta him.
Man, they didn’t edit this film so much as gut it, and it reflected badly on Jared’s work most of all, resulting in something once thought impossible: a Joker performance that most people think sucked.
@@TeenTyrant The way he played him the second time was exactly what I expected from his Joker. The way he calmly pokes at Batman knowing that he's perfectly in control of the room was amazing. Also the way he basically demolished what Batman is by saying that he's just a coward too scared to die when it really matters.
Oh yeah, Snyder Cut Joker gave Leto a chance to really shine the greatness I always knew was there but nobody else could see. It’s too bad that it was so short though.
This here's Brandon. He can watch anything. I wouldn't advise getting reviewed by him. His words trap the meaning of what they're describing.
The Joker that Jared is playing is comic book accurate but the problem is the "when" and "how many" of it all, most people know Joker as he is now which was perfectly portrayed by Heath But Jared's Joker is closer related to Jack's Joker and to find this joker you need to go all the way back to the original joker. The original Golden Joker wasn't "The Clown Prince of Crime" he was just a brutal mob boss that killed people and left joker cards around, then Silver Age he because a mob boss that killed people and looked like a clown (this will be Jacks Joker in '89 Batman), then we move into Bronze age and this is the joker everyone points to as the definitive joker the Clown Prince of Crime, what Jared does which kills the character is he takes elements from all the jokers and makes a joker soup and that's what we get here, a Mob Boss, playing at being a clown who kills people but he just can't stick the clown aspect.
The weird thing is that the studio cut out all of the "funny" bits of his Joker. Like him pretending to be a judge's wife laying in bed, the scene where him and Harley manipulate the gangster at the strip club to shoot himself in the head only to comment "smart guy... lotta brains", him killing a security guard with a hammer on his face because he was angry that a bomb didn't kill him, him saying that when Enchantress makes him king of Gotham he will make Batman his vice-president cause they have a story. Maybe my favorite would be when he shows up at the final battle with Waller's trigger in his hand and the Squad is like "nah it can't be, he's not real he died" so Joker is like "ok ok so if I'm not real this isn't gonna blow your heads up" and Deadshot says "no no no no he's real he's real" basically shitting his pants. You make a good Joker by balancing him being scary and him being funny (in his own dark way). If you only try to make him scary you get just an edgy idiot who overacts his craziness (Leto's Joker in this "movie") and if you only try to make him funny you get Cesar Romero's Joker.
@@ferdinandofallica5869 We need a "snyder cut" for this, I've never heard of specific scenes they cut before all I knew was he was a significant part of the movie and he claims he recorded enough content to make a whole stand alone movie. I want to see the movie we were supposed to get, I know it has to exist somewhere even if it is in bits
Robbie was meant to be Quinn. She's perfect. The only other character I enjoy that seems to fit the role is the Flash. Though in the next Suicide Squad, a lot of people really fit the roles too. Quinn has always been my fav when it comes to DC. I'm glad they briefly gave her that jester outfit in prison, calling back to her days in the Batman animated series where she would wear it with her giant sledge hammer.
i agree
Wait, have you already seen BvS: Ultimate Cut??? Either way, We’re getting this much closer to Zack Snyder’s Justice League and I am SOOOOOOOO HYPED!!!!
Excited to see your upcoming DC reactions! I know you will love the new suicide squad and Zach Snyder’s Justice League. Think you would really enjoy Birds of Prey too.
Edit: After seeing how much you love Harley in this I know you will have a great time with her next appearances. She only gets better in each film. If you have never seen the adult animated Harley Quinn show, you should consider checking it out in your own time or on the channel if that interests you. It’s really good.
Harley was actually created for Batman the Animated Series. The character was so great she was added into the comics even getting her own solo titles.
"I thought this was CONTAINED!!"
-Some Random Dude
Harley actually only gets better as the movies go along. I can't wait for you to get to Zack Snyder's Justice League!!
Justice League just barely beat Spider-Man for my favorite movie of 2021
I have always contended that the whole point of this movie was only to introduce Harley Quinn into the DC movie universe. Nothing else in the movie but her matters in this. It's all about establishing her. And it's the right thing to do.
Jared Leto is an incredible actor, films like Dallas Buyers Club (for which he won a Best Supporting Actor Oscar) , Mr Nobody, Chapter 27 and Requiem for a Dream proved that he is one of the best actors out there! It wasn't all his fault, I blame the makeup designers and the script.
Never heard anyone describe Leto's joker as the "GQ Joker." Hilarious, but spot on.
Suicide Squad was supposed to be a "smaller" budget and fun DCU film, but after Batman v Superman was not well received and did not performed as expected at the box office , the powers that be decided to raise its profile, raise its expectations and make it more .... colourful. After the success of Guardians of the Galaxy with the soundtrack they also pimped the film with cool tracks but it was edited like a music video or a trailer. It's soooo cringe.
The one guys that does not get a double introduction and a soundtrack obviously is not important and dies straight away.
There are so many bad things about it, it's a train wreck, but a train wreck that I enjoy many parts of.
I think the Jared Leto-Joker negative-hype-train was very exaggerated.
He doesn't even have the screen time like the other Jokers.
The film is not in the least on his shoulders as an antagonist.
His gangster approach is more modern than, for example, Nicholsons.
There is nothing brilliant about his figure or acting indeed. It's not even possible to work out something like that, as such a minor character.
But let's be real, it's not a catastrophe either.
You're right, either they had to commit to the idea or not. Better off not having Joker than a half baked insert though. Really stupid plot and screenplay to run with.
15:31, they tried that with Harley Quinn And The Birds Of Prey, but it didn't work.
yep
Jared Leto straight-up sent the rest of the cast stuff like razor blades and used condoms in the mail to "get into character". How, in the process, he never thought "maybe I shouldn't" astonishes me.
this movie was so all over the place. it should’ve matched the same energy as its comic con trailer.
16:08, her original outfit.
Awesome review as always, can't wait for other DCEU Movies reactions👍
Can't wait to see the reaction for the newer Suicide Squad, because it handled its plot and characters so much better than this one.
This movie won an Oscar for best hair and makeup. That and Margot's Harley make this movie watchable.
Yeah, the story of this film's development makes Justice League's fiasco look tame. 8 weeks to write the script and finish pre-production, because WB locked in a release date, forcing Ayer to start working on a rushed project. Test audiences not really jumping at its considerably darker initial tone than what we got, nor Joker as the main villain, which meant reshoots. Then, in February 2016, Deadpool releases, massive box office, large fan reception, so WB wants SS 2016 to be more comedic, but also doesn't want it to be R-Rated, which means MORE reshoots that don't change much because there's only so much one can do with a dark comedy that isn't allowed to go full dark, and therefore full comedy. And then the studio made EVEN MORE edits and reshoots in April, less than a month from release, when the second round of test audiences didn't go for the new comedic aspects. Until eventually, you get this film.
I very much hate this movie as I have issues with how it’s obvious that two movies meld into one. Comedic tones don’t mix well with the serious tones. I think Joker felt like a big weirdo in a bad way and I think would’ve been better if given the time to flush things out. I loved the second movie which was very intent on flushing out the characters, establishing a comedic tone and sticking to it and also establishing worth while relationships. Ik some people say the movie is overrated, or not good but it’s my true suicide squad movie.
The 'Birds of Prey' movie chronologically fits in between the two Suicide Squad Movies.
The canonical version of Harley Quinn is from the Batman Animated Series where she was first introduced. I'm not well versed enough in the series to recommend any good Harley episodes, but I'm sure there are lists online.
Maybe I missed it in your review, but did you spot Karen Fukuhara in this film? (who plays Kimiko in the Boys)
James Gunn's the suicide squad is 10 times better I think you'll definitely like it and Margot Robbie continues to be awesome as Harley Quinn in Birds of prey which I really liked and the suicide squad which was my favourite movie of 2021
You make everything exciting to watch. That's a gift, man!
*The* Suicide Squad is absolutely amazing, Its so much fun with some great twists and turns
Truly amazing how much difference one word can make.
Brandon your Man of Steel reaction was what turned me onto your channel so it's amazing to hear you're going to be reacting to two of my other favourite cb movies in BvS:UE and ZSJL. 2022 already off to a great start!
"GQ Joker" 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
13:40 Yea the songs were not planned from the beginning they changed who was editing it and made it lighter in mind.
9:45, I saw the Extended Cut, and it's a lot better than I thought.
This movie was shot during a time where WB was deciding to bow to the criticism it was getting over the tone of it's DCEU and so this was the biggest sign of the studio stepping in to change up what the Director was doing. A lot of it can be seen in the editing and music choices. But then you have the Oscar winning makeup of Killer Croc and some of the really decent dialogue sections. They even had way more joker shot which could have helped put his performance in a better light. It would be nice to see The Ayer Cut, but I doubt WB is willing to let that happen at this point.
Until those execs are gone, they won’t let anyone see it.
most of the recent songs in this movie, ie Sucker for Pain x Heathens were made specifically for this movie. I agree, they could have had them in different places, but shit still fye. ly though
Personally I'm not a huge diehard DC fan, I can appreciate this movie enough to keep me entertained and that's it. Mostly I watch it for Harley quin, and bc I loved Leto as joker😭
AND frankly I would even go as far to say that I prefer this film compared to the 2021 suicide squad--which I know for sure is an unpopular opinion 😅
I can't wait for you to watch the 2021 version. Its so good, especially as a contrast to this one.
The biggest problem with this movie is it really just feels like action set pieces with almost nothing connecting the thing as a whole. I think someone involved in the high up decision making sphere had only really done trailers before.
Another of its biggest problems is the poorly written and acted characters. Which is a pretty huge problem.
But also, no, they tried to re-edit the film to feel like a big music video because that's how the trailers were cut and people loved the trailers.
Snyders Justice League is a masterpiece
There was no way they could’ve made this movie good by condensing an entire suicide squad story into a 2 hour movie… character introductions included. They should’ve made an episodic show that slowly introduced characters.
Diablo was played by Jay Hernandez.
AKA new Magnum P.I.
Ayer has made great movies (End of Watch, Fury... wrote Training Day), he has also made medicore movies (Street Kings, Harsh Times) and one truly horrible movie (The Tax Collector). This falls into the harsh studio interference because they balked at the "too dark" comments about BvS.
As you said, the first 40 minutes (and that staircase flashback) were so heavily edited to try and condense what was two and a half hour long movie into 90 minutes. According to Ayer, there is enough footage to have made two full length movies and one of them being a film centered around Joker. The music video style was so poorly thought out. And you said it best... it feels like they switched directors half way with the tone and style. It sucks because the potential was there.
Joker and Harley's relationship was more abusive. He was giving her to Monster T (Common) because he was sick and tired of her. Then felt disrespected by him, and basically forced Monster T to commit suicide. He also beats Harley in the street when she chases him down. Throws her from the helicopter because he forgot how annoying she could be (which is why she tosses away her PUDDIN choker). And then in the showdown, he returns and demands she joins him.
There was also a lot more of a darker tone with his henchmen, a longer and more brutal Arkham takeover. The scene where he delivers the exploding bouquet, originally had the guard alive with half his face blown off, then getting curbstomped.
Slipknot actually had an arc as a misogynist who savagely beat women. There was supposed to be a more gruesome version of Incubus (the big bad dude), Diablo was to have survive. There was a scene where Flag and his team are sent to find June who is hiding and being controlled by Enchatress more and more, she is terrified and in a bathtub with flora growing around it. Flag orders his men to leave and he gets in the bathtub and comforts June. Kitana would have gotten more screen time. There was a standoff between the squad as Enchantress pits them against each other... and so much more. Some of this survived in the novelization, while the rest is only known to those who filmed it.
There was also a lot of inspiration for the characters from the New 52 and Earth One comic runs. Leto's Joker was a combination of The Dark Knight Returns (Metrosexul Marilyn Manson meets glam cown) and New 52.
There were so many ideas that were just ripped away from a studio that balked.
The Animated Film, Batman: Assault on Arkham, came out a few years before this movie, it is in large a Suicide Squad movie, and while I think DC's live action tends to be fairly poor, their animated stuff is top notch, I highly recommend it. The Suicide Squad, that being the new one which I'm sure you have plans to do is really good, really the first DC movie that really came out decent IMO, and to get that they had to get a ton of Marvel people to do it for them, ha.
I think you nailed the commentary on this movie, especially about the use of music and 'trailer lines/scenes' it feels super rushed and messy.
But i still think you would enjoy the other one 👍🏻
Watching this again with you I think the joker wasn't really Jared Letos fault like you said.
I think it was the editing and writing of him in some points that let the character down.
My son is a huge dredd fan and I have been looking for something cool to get him. Would actually like to know where you got that hat it looks well made.
rewatching this i now realize i have PTSD
You have to watch King Richard when it comes back to HBO Max if you’re craving recent Will Smith. Big chance he’ll get an Oscar nom for it.
David Ayer's got some great films under his belt, it's a shame this film ended up getting chopped up and covered with jukebox tracks. He's known for writing Training Day and directing End of Watch and Fury. All worth watching. The "sequel" cannot be compared to this film as it was made by a completely new creative team led by James Gunn. A few characters return, because they honored the canon, but it is in fact a soft reboot. Harley's story continues in Birds of Prey, between these films, but there's no story given as to how she ends up back in prison for The Suicide Squad. Lastly, Deadshot was supposed to return for The Suicide Squad but Will Smith wasn't available, so you'll find Bloodsport, played by Idris Elba, has many parallels to him but is a new character.
The sequel was amazing. Great sound track and contrast in color in a lot of the scenes.
Great channel! Your Sunny playlist really cracked me up. Can't wait for your reaction to the new Suicide Squad movie (Night and Day difference in my opinion)