I've bought a BMW M240i (G42). Here's why you SHOULDN'T!
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00:00 - Intro
01:02 - Why Haven't I Bought a G87 M2?
02:06 - My M240i Specs / Exterior / Interior / Walkaround
04:35 - First reason why you shouldn't buy an M240i
05:17 - Second reason
08:00 - Third reason
09:30 - Conclusion
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first "why u shouldn't buy" "it does not have the typical bmw looks" literally the only bmw keeping a small kidney grill, literally the only one keeping a bmw look and considered a fan tribute after the series 1/3/4 changes
It just doesn't. It's boxy, the front is very busy, the headlights are just single, not double, the taillights are not the classic BMW shape. It's tall... The current 3 series is the only BMW that gets close to the classic looks
Now look at the 2002
He said it's boxy, dude doesn't know what a older BMW looks like
@@TunedIntoCarsStill, points missed. This has characteristics of LOTS of old BMWs, including the car it's trying to channel, the 2002 Turbo. Maybe look that one up!
I like my car, my car is in Alpine white much better than yours and my car is outstanding so I have something positive to say not like you 😡
The looks have def grown on me especially after seeing it in person
So you bought an AWD, auto trans, modern BMW, and now you're complaining about it's looks, and the fact that it's not a "true" sports car - that seems silly. 👎
These are great daily drivers for folks who want power and luxury with all weather performance.
Honestly, the state of TH-cam at the moment is unbelievably bad. The video is about what YOU SHOULDN'T EXPECT when buying a car like this. I've got a lot of questions about how this car compares to my previous M2, so I've made this video telling people not to expect this to be comparable.
It's not that deep, honestly. You just need to listen to words and understand them.
Nice to see ur reviews back!!! Cant wait for my g87 soon 🎉
I have one in thundernight, I get looks and comments everywhere I go. The drive is great and the gearbox is probably the best I've ever had, it's a great package from BMW.
Your color is the best color for an M240i
@@TunedIntoCars Correction, Portimao Blue is better :D. That purple is not going to age well, IMO.
@@Anthony-bc2cw How is purple not going to age well but blue doesnt. lol
@@bj10jgo I'm just playing around, the purple is a great color I just prefer the blue for me. Purple isn't a color I want to have long term, is what I meant by aging.
I ordered black @ waiting :)
Just bought a used 2023 M240i xdrive with 3,000 miles in Melbourne Red with every option on it including Shadowline, adaptive suspension. Test drove an M2 and beat the hell out of me. Drove this and it is night & day. For me, it’s the perfect daily that gives a great ride and can provide a ton of fun when I want to get on the gas. I love having AWD with the rain we get in the southeast and sometimes the snow in the upper part of the state I live in near the BMW factory here in SC.
This guy doesn't know what he's talking about and your comment ^^ is the general consensus I've heard from the people who drive this car daily. I just don't know what he's talking about...
You picked the worse colour for the car my guy that’s why you never got used to the design.
Such is life. Nobody's perfect
Sorry, i bought it this Jan for my 2023 M240i xdrive and love everything about it. Actually, a few points you mentioned are those i love. I love the look of it since it looks super sporty compared with earlier model. Earlier model 2 looks soft. I love the automatic transmission. I will sometimes drive a very long distance and also might stuck in traffic from time to time, automatic transmission doesn't tire me. I'd agree with the weight and cornering isn't great compared to lighter cars.
Nothing to be sorry about :)
So I own a m240i in RWD while my dad owns a AWD one. All the points you made are valid for the AWD, but with the RWD the understeer is gone, the rear tires are wider, car sits just slightly lower, feels way tighter on corners and most importantly it is what a BMW should feel like. Pure fun. The back end is easy to slide out. You can do burnout for days. I mean the car is an absolute blast. Yes the ZF dulls the fun just a little but I do think that if you live in a place where you don’t need AWD and don’t want to spend the extra 20k on a m2 then the RWD version of the m240 is the car you want.
Are you sure the tires are wider and not just the wheels?
@@TunedIntoCars yes to both actually that’s my fault
Can you get the xdrive 240 to arse out over steer at all, like is that understeer not correctable with throttle or does the 4wd really prevent that, I'm litterely trying to decide in a rear or 4wd atm, I like to play but am in England and the 4wd would be helpful, can the xdrive still play?
@@EZ-D-FIANTxdrive can still play but the suspension will take a wear, I would never do donuts with mine, it will fry your diff, I learned the hard way and now I have a leaking seal, car still launches hard tho, u wanna have fun w xdrive just put on some dead tires 😂 if your the impulsive type and got bread for tires get rwd
@@dopplegamer8175 wear is fine as long as it'll dance I'm happy....
Tare rau masina, chiar ma gandeam de ceva timp la ea, cred ca o sa fie urmatoarea mea masina, merci de clip!🖤🙏
What has been your experience living with the car. I understand looks are objective but what about use? Does it have extensive warm up period? Parking experience, can you easily fit into parallel spots easier, visability?
Understood its not a track focused car. When you do have a few twists and turns on your way home is it fun for a few minutes? Also does it fit a pair of skis through the passthrough?
Your comments about the new M240i's over-reliance on techology/video screens vs hard button controls is a main reason I opted for the 2023 x3 M40i...before it too would morph into a video screen dominated driving environment. The B58 ZF8 speed engine/transmission combo is absolutely excellent. I DO appreciated the M Adaptive Suspension in our x3 M40i and suspect that feature would also benefit the M240i's handling.
I’ve just taken delivery of my new M240. Same spec as yours but no sunroof or adaptive cruise control in thundernight. List was £53k and I got it for just over £47k. BMW were also giving £2500 finance deposit contribution. I think that it’s a great deal of car for the money.
Use it safely. Best wishes Paul
I love mine. I can't imagine being so nitpicky about minor points, it's a great car. Add highly recommend one to anyone thinking about it. It makes the two Mercedes I had look like the hunks of junk they were.
I wouldn't recommend one to everyone. That's the point of the video.
It definitely is a great car, but if someone is looking for a sports car and buys the M240i, they're going to be disappointed. It's as simple as that
Beaty is in the eyes of the beholder,I think it’s a great looking car,and so does a lot of other people.I’m looking to buy one right now.
Hence why I didn't say it's ugly or anything bad about the design. Because it's subjective
The M240i is not an AWD only car as you stated, as I own a 2023 RWD and it is absolutely fantastic. I have had a 2014 BMW M235i RWD for many years and I will say the 2023 is not quite the go-kart handling feel of the 2014 but it has other advantages that make up for it. As far as looks, very subjective. My Brooklyn Gray gets a lot of attention and waves almost every time I have it out. This car looks absolutely amazing coming down the road from the perspective of the oncoming traffic on the other side. A strong and powerful wedge look, like an anvil. I recently got rid of the plain Jane factory exhaust and installed a Quad tip axle back Dinan exhaust. Absolutely incredible sound and look.
you're correct. Looks like in some countries, the RWD M240i is still on sale
My M240I has recieved nothing but love and people who surround is and take selfies with it. My spec is awesome.
Good that you like it. It's the most important thing
Design is a subjective thing - I loved the G-Series M2/M240i from the first moment. I love the boxed design and all the weird things and angles :)
We've been missing you! ❤ Cheers from Italy!
Great Video!! I actually like how the new M240i looks. This is the reason why I'm looking for one in the states since it stands out from all the rest of the bmws here in california. The tech is alright the only thing I hate on the 2023 model is that they removed the physical shift knob. Everything else from this car is amazing.
What a great video , sending you a thank you from Florida! Very cool to see that spec compared to what I can get in the States . Your delivery is measured and easy to understand, also liked the progression you had when describing. Cheers!
I just bought one, a convertible from 2018 with RWD and none OPF 😃
2022 G42 is a better balanced car when it comes to the tech ... still has button controls and a better dashboard design. Not the lazy, slap two iPads together design in the 23' and 24' models. This is a great car for daily driving especially if you live in high traffic areas with an average 28 MPG (mostly highway), great comfort and X-drive for those winter conditions. I've had my M240i for 2 years and love it. I've changed the tires, exhaust and suspension to make it more sportier and to handle better ... and at a fraction of the cost for a new M2.
230 is lighter 300lbs handles better dynamic Struts is the option to get for 230 piggy back tune with dp feels amazing
this video made me want one more
Go for it
You can get the RWD now in the United States
Great to see you back !
Looking forward to more videos
Congrats on the car !
Thank you!
Also not sure about the orange interior - don’t they do a deep dark red / maroon?
I have a ‘22 M240i with high performance fan and brake package with 59k miles. 150 mph on many roads-trust me-it’s a driver’s car. The M2’s automatic is preferred among some enthusiasts, just saying. I love manuals more too, though. Thanks!
150mph on many roads... I truly hope you live in Germany and you're talking about Autobahns...
Tjena, hur mycket köpte du den för och vad ligger försäkringen på? Tack på förhand!
I've mentioned the price of the car in the video. As for the insurance, that depends on the person. So you're better off asking an insurance company
Put some nice wider wheels on it tune the gearbox and the engine, put KW suspension and you will be amazed how good it is . The best car for the money. 500 hp only with software stage 2 for the gearbox and you will be in the low 11s on 1/4 mile. Bine bine 🎉
The money spent on wheels, the tune and the suspension, will take this car close to Cayman S money. And at that price point, I'd take the Porsche without question
@@TunedIntoCars Really ? 2000 -3000 euro is the difference? I doubt cayman is only 3000 more expensive , porsche always extremely overprice their cheap models like cayman and 911 . The profit for VW from every sold 911 is about 42% . That's what I call a good overprice for deep pocket dumbers . And the cayman is 100% useless for a guy with family. Better buy a gocart and trailer if you are going to drive on a track . Cayman feels so slow and so heavy in comparison with the cart .
Wheels and tires are around 3000. Tune is another 1k and the KW is another 2k. Which would bring the total price close to 60k. Which is very close to what a Cayman S costs where I live 🤷♂️
@@TunedIntoCars 3000 for wheels and tyres??? In Romania you can buy a good set for 700€, the remap is 500€ max for both engine and gearbox . 500hp with ease and almost DCT fast gearshift .
Nu te supara, dar ce jante, pe 19", iei tu cu 700 setul?! Ca m-am tot uitat si in Romania, iar la banii aia sunt doar replici (sau marci de calitate indoielnica). Jante mai late ca astea pe care le are masina acum, sunt pe la 400 bucata. Apoi anvelopele sunt undeva pe la 200 bucata... Apoi suspensia ai uitat-o. Apoi franele, mai ales daca duci motorul pe la 500 de cai... Se aduna o suma frumusica, pe care n-o mai vezi inapoi la revanzare. Ti-o spun ca si patit :))
Mie unul mi se pare cel putin stupid sa investesti atatia bani intr-o masina, doar ca sa-i repari 'defectele' cu care vine din fabrica. M240i-ul asta e bine sa fie luat cu suspensia adaptiva din fabrica si rulata ca masina de drum lung. Eu personal n-o consider o masina sportiva. Dar na, asta e doar opinia mea
I went with the 2024 M340i. So fun.
Not a bad choice. Congratulations 🎉
In south Africa we prefer to just buy the 35i or 40i version and just buy an ecu, exhaust and wrap call it a day. Just as fast and louder than an m2 and still not even 30 percent close to the original price of m2
Hmm.. So.. I guess I will keep my F22(July 2019 - last batch) "M" 230i (B48) a bit longer ;)) (just for the fact that I have analogue gauges AND a physical handbrake Oo). For me the biggest drawback on the newer M240i was the huge screen that is for everything - I want needles on round "clocks" and RWD only not this all wheel thing. But it sounds it's not even that fun to drive. The F22 230i is not a true M car and I know that, but man I still have a lot of fun with it as it's RWD and pretty light :) I hoped I the new M240i would be even better ...
PS: The lack of physical buttons for climate control is also a big minus, the radio buttons and hell even the Old school CD player ;)) I still have older CDs with Music that I listen to for nostalgia moments while being stuck on a motorway;)
There is RWD m240i variant available. Maybe in Sweden you don't have them.
Interesting. Thanks for the info. Since were on the Sweden topic, the M240i xDrive is the only 2 series you can buy here. Really weird, because I've heard a lot of good things about the 230i, for example
Yes, I own one. Black on black BTW. 😂
@@TunedIntoCars drove a 30i g30 for 4 years. Its a great engine. Ordered the 240i rwd now, iam excited!
Great to see your video’s again! You have a genuine, factual and relaxing presentation style and don’t add any drama where it’s not needed 👍
literally says "it have a double clutch and is heavy and theres no Manual" like making those points "negative". it offers nothing, these are things everyone knows
the only thing it literally says about the transmission, is that it doesn't have a double clutch
I have a 220i which I guess it is much les powerful than yours; however, I am very happy with it
Thanks for reinforcing my decision to get the rear drive 230i. I will never part with this car.
That seems to be the sweetspot of this new generation of 2 series
The rear look nice just the headlights and square front lets it down.
Not shure for which market but RWD is available in Europe and is 5k Euro cheaper than AWD
Varför köper du en bil du inte gillar (utseende) ... Jag älskar min M440 cabriolet i Brooklyn grey 😊
Because I needed a "sports" car that could carry four people. And I wanted to try it out and see how it drives. Lots of people seem to be interested in this for no reason :)
thank you for your candor, it confirmed what i suspected
I reckon the colour of yours white makes it look better tbh… still really hate that curved dash…
Sounds like you bought the wrong car dude.
However, if you make enough youtube content about it, then it pays for itself.
Im picking mines up next week.
It will be my wife's daily and my toy 😊
I think the car is absolutely stunning to look at. The new M2 is stunning too but felt safer getting my wife an xdrive
I think it’s a beautiful car.
Hi Paul. Would you consider a M440 instead? I am interested in buying one of these two models and i am not enterily decided wich one should i choose. I tried both models but unfortunately the 2 liter diesel. In my deep of my heart i like the M440 coupe more because of its looks and more premium and spacious feel inside. I like the bigger doors and the fact that its not looking like a lego car (the m240 is too high). But now is the real quiestion, the driving feeling. I see everywhere that everyone gives more credit to the M240 regarding the performance of the car and how it feels in corners, but i see that you are not so pleased with it. I dont really know what to pick because i'm kind of guy who likes to push the car and to feel everything in the car.
I didn't consider the M440i simply because it was much more expensive than the m240i, but not very different. I drove the 430i and I really enjoyed it, but again, it's not that different to the 2 series.
However, considering your last sentence, it sounds like you would like an M-car more than the M-performance equivalent
Either get the old 2 series or don't buy a BMW if you want to feel the car and push it. That's now what this gen BMW is about.
You bought M440i?
isn't the M240i all wheel drive? i think it's called M240i xDrive. or is there an option for rear-wheel drive?
In Sweden it's xDrive only. But there are countries where they also sell a rwd variant
Hard to disagree with any of the criticisms. I had the previous gen M240i and it was a peach.
Yeah, but it's sad that mainstream reviews stated the best M240I ever if you don't even need an M2. This car is heavier than 540i for around 10kg.
I mean this is ridiculous.
Nothing but compliments on mine. Everyone loves the look and to say this isn't a drivers car is CRAZY! These TH-cam guys are missing big time because they feel like they have to over criticize the beamers and di** ride Audi. There has to be some back room payments going on.
And to say this isn't a drivers car makes me wonder how much you know about BMW Ms and if you've ever owned one as a daily driver. This is just an off-base, inaccurate review. Big miss on your part man and judging by the comments all the M2 owners here agree with me.
1. I'm not a 'TH-cam guy' whatever that means. I'm just someone who enjoys making videos from time to time. Also, never filmed an Audi on this channel and I'm not a fan of their cars either. So not sure what that comment is all about
2. I think you're missing a lot of context here. Because I've explained at length why I think this isn't a proper driver's car.
3. I've owned two M2's. Not sure why this would matter, but there you go.
Finally, this isn't "an off-base, inaccurate review" or a "big miss". It's just an opinion which some people don't agree with. And that's fine!
The convertible is much nicer in my opinion. But make one about the difference between m240i and an m4 convertible. I'm interested in looks of it more so. Trying to decide between 2021 m240i and a 2020 m4
But there is no m240i convertible. Not in this generation. The cars you are talking about comparing are two very different vehicles
what was the last m240 convertible? Price wise, looking at that in 2021 convertible, and a m4 differences. Maybe we can chat if you are knowledgeable on it. I'd appreciate the help. I'll even pay you a stipen of 100 for honest help. Car shopping sucks. lol....also have an audi a5 in thoughts. something under 45k
@@TunedIntoCars basically, i'm saying not much videos in different convertibles that are under 50k.I'm looking, like others, on reliability and affordability.
I'd have to respectfully disagree. I love my 2023 M240i. I think it's the best looking BMW currently and I get many, many people mentioning it to me. Mine is Brooklyn Grey with black interior. The technology is great on this car and if you want to go back to analog days, that's great but the information presented is far superior and more plentiful than the old speedo - tach days. This car is a rocket (so I could care less about how much it weighs) that handles really well, too. My last one was a stick and I loved it but this 8-speed tranny shifts far faster than I can, and more accurately. To each their own but as soon as I saw this car, and what it could do for the price, I bought one and haven't looked back since.
You can disagree, of course, but it's pretty solid advice.
I have spoken to people who didn't buy this car specifically because of the new infotainment screen and how they integrated most functionalities in it.
Same goes for the handling. It's a great car overall, no doubt about it, but if handling is your priority you will most likely want to buy the M2. The M240i is more of a grand tourer car. A very good one I might add
Really makes me wonder why you even bought it if there is so many things wrong with it
I've never said those things are wrong. I've said that if you're looking for those things, this is not the car for you. For me the car is just fine!
seriously, if i didnt love the car, i wouldnt buy it. weird he thinks its ugly but still bought it. what?
@@jasonk6298are looks that important to you when buying a car? I'd say they're near the bottom of my list. It's a nice bonus at most.
@@jasonk6298- he loves it but this is click bait
Design is bad ass, and sets itself apart. Sorry man, bad ass look
I see what you did here with this video you're very clever and very slick you just got sick of people saying why did you get that car did a nice job at showing it off and what a great buy it is you are very smart great job
Should call it a Stormtrooper
show me something for 50K that has that performance with 4 wheel drive and that luxury .......there is nothing .(i dont mean a milk float either)
This car was 52k, after being discounted another 8. So real money is actually 60k. I'm not knocking the car, I've bought it, but I suspect you've kinda missed the point of the video
you‘re wrong, there is a rear wheel version. also a nogo for me is, the EU things like the blackbox or that it has to beep every time when i‘m a km/h too quick^^
That's not a EU thing. I don't have it in my cat
you can disable that
The G42 m240i too high? It's height is 1390mm, the previous F22 m240i was 1408mm tall.
Look at the wheel gap. It's huge
A got damn iPhone Pro on wheels. I'll give you the B58 is a monster with lots of potential but in 5 years, this car will be complete garbage. A got damn screen that controls everything.
I would agree with most of what you said. You don’t look Swedish though lol
Never said I was swedish :)
This car needs the Msport Pro pack and the adaptive suspension or it doesn't come close to its potential
this one has the pro pack, but you're definitely right about the adaptive suspension. It really needs it
Romanian living in Sweden?
I own one of the last 2021 m240s made and would have gone with the 2024 but it is UGLY BOX. Also the new M2s look like crap too.
In Spain, that configuration costs a little more than 80.000 euros 😢
That's crazy. Is it because of the taxes or?
@@TunedIntoCarsmmm I have no idea, but it seems too much to be just taxes, that big difference between prices have no sense
Don't agree with your review. First and foremost, you said in the beginning that you were looking for a sports car. But BMWs were NEVER sports cars. BMW makes driver-focused premium sedans (and SUVs). BMWs are sporty, but are not sports cars. If you want a pure sports car, get a Porsche or a Ferrari. Or even a Supra. Even the pure M cars are not real, genuine sports cars, and never were. They are compromised in size, weight, and need for some kind of practicality and comfort. BMWs are meant to be luxurious sedans that you can drive sporty and have fun. They are not for ultimate performance and agility. So much of your criticism makes no sense. If you were expecting the M240i to behave like a Porsche Cayman you clearly didn't do your research prior to buying. Another mistake is that the M240i is AWD only, it is not, RWD versions are available in most markets and are mostly more fun. Third, the looks, i think the car looks fantastic and is one of the most good looking cars ever made. Especially in purple, and without the Msport additions, i actually prefer the base version's looks. More elegant. The M division always strives to make cars look too aggressive and tuned. As for the suspension, agreed that the base suspension is terrible for comfort, 19inch wheels + sport suspension in such a heavy car makes it really uncomfortable, adaptive suspension is mandatory in the m240i and m2. Seems to me what you wanted to really buy, was a 230i. The 230i is the sweet sport for the 2 coupe in my opinion. It is much lighter especially on the front, so much more fun to turn and easier to brake. You can get pretty much all the extras the M240i has on the 230i, minus the adaptive suspension. You don't lose much in acceleration or engine sound, but you gain a lot in handling. Plus it is cheaper so...
I think you need to listen more. I've not said the M240i is a 'pure' sports car. I simply said don't buy one, if you're looking for a sports car. Different, no?
Other than that, feel free to disagree with me on anything. As with anyone talking about / reviewing cars, everything is very subjective.
I also disagree with your 230i vs M240i comparisons. The latter is much faster than the 230i (both on paper and in real life), despite the extra weight and I think you do lose quite a lot in engine noise and overall drama. Not to mention, in Sweden they discounted the M240i so much that it was nearly the same price as a 230i.
So for me it was a no-brainer to go for the M240i, especially that in the long run, it will hold its value better
You think it looks good? Sir, you need psych meds because you are delusional.
If when i get one its as good as my last M240i ,but with decent grip then its a winner with me thats for sure.....the B58 tunes nice as well ,with the xdrive will handle the power better than 2018 i had...not hearing many complaints about this car tbh ,,,,your about the ony one ive heard moaning about it....looks are a personal taste also ..power,tech luxury ,sounds good to me,,,,a few mods transorm the looks also ,look at the M2 lego car ,,,,,,GROSS........we at least your title gets people watch the video.....
My title reflects exactly what the video is about.
I've bought the car and a lot of people would ask me how it compares to an M2 and with this video I'm basically telling them that if they're looking for something close to the M2, this ain't it.
It's not that deep, honestly.
lol the m240 xdrive is now the fastest bmw on the planet? Might want to rethink this video
Huh?
See I think blacked out with the peanut butter interior would change his mind
Change who's mind?
I have that spec for the 230i I agree
52000 euro is an absolute bargain! Guess the low Swedish krone is to blame/credit for that
Like I've said in the video, BMW has slashed prices for M240i's, as they weren't selling. But the weak Swedish krona is definitely a factor
Just sell it m8 it must be terrible . LOL .....there is such a shortage it will sell instantly.........i had the last gen and will be getting this G42 ,looking forward to the extra traction thats for sure....
Ok. I'll sell it then
the look of the car shouldn't be a reason to not buy it, that is personal preference. the b58 is BMWs most reliable engine aswell
I feel like this guy is doing nothing but regurgitating talking points from forums and Facebook groups. He bought this car and then made a video complaining that it isn't an M2 essentially.
Nobody's complaining. Sorry about your lack of comprehension. I was simply pointing out what people should expect when they buy this car
What an ordinary review.
This was not a review 🤷♂️
There is a rwd varient of it get your facts right bro😂😂
Not in Sweden
"bro", there is nonein Sweden, "bro"
@@TunedIntoCars well next time be more specific don't just say "there is no rwd variant" just say "there aren't any rwd variants in Sweden" cause your audience are not only from your own country it's world wide you have to be careful with your information cause if I didn't know anything about the car I would believe what you said lol an if I were in an argument with a car friend of mine I would look like an ass so bro you have to be careful with your words
can't get over the new idrive 8 ... I don't like it one bit
At first i thought the same, but I slowly got used to it. However, i do find it annoying that the climate controls are integrated into the screen...
A lot of TH-camrs in the states that have done reviews on the M230 and the M240 picked the M230. They said that the M230 feels more like a drivers car the handling the steering just an overall better road handling car . And they said the car has plenty of horsepower I'm going to drive both cars next year when my lease is done on my car and see if there right
It's a good thing you don't listen to TH-camrs. You should definitely drive both cars back to back and pick the one you like. It's your money, at the end of the day.
Also, those youtubers should know that an M230 doesn't exist in BMW's lineup
@@TunedIntoCars I stand corrected the 230 with the M package
The 6 cylinder engine is absolutely vital to fully enjoying this 2 series. I’ve driven them all. The 4 cylinder cars have no emotion. During 90% of driving the M2 isn’t worth it except for tracking. Looks wise lower it and add a rear spoiler and the thing is transformed in to a performance car. The 0-100kph is out of the world. It is a traffic light super car.
@@neillgowans4350 strongly disagree, the smaller engine also comes wiht less weight which makes driving these cars NIGHT AND DAY better.
Imo BMW's have been ugly beginning with the E46, this is the first newer one I actually like the styling of, so much so Im deciding between an m240i or an m2 now, xdrive is very tempting to me but the dude wont let me push it in test drives to see how well it plays so Im still undecided lol.....
F87 is top 3 BMW design and came much later than the e46.
@@sinenomine4540 Why do you feel the need to tell me E46 is an older design I obviously know and that was my point, bmws have been ugly since then, also saying top 3 design is ridiculous what people like is subjective their is no absolute only opinion.
YOUR COMPLAINTS AND DISLIKES ARE " INVALID ". YOU SHOULD HAVE SPENT THE EXTRA MONEY AND PURCHASED ANOTHER M2. YOU WANT THIS CAR TO BE AN M2 AT 15,000 DOLLARS CHEAPER. I JUST PURCHASED A 2024 M240i X DRIVE AND I ABSOLUTELY LOVE IT!! I TEST DROVE THE M2 AND I FELT LIKE I WAS DRIVING THE SAME EXACT CAR ONLY WITH A MANUAL IN THE M2. NO MATTER HOW FAST THE M2 IS, BOTH CARS WILL TOP OUT AT 155 MILES PER HOUR. SO DO YOU REALLY NEED TO SPEND 15 GRAND MORE TO GET WHERE YOU'RE GOING A LITTLE FASTER. PLUS, WITH THE ALL WHEEL DRIVE SYSTEM IN THE M240i XDRIVE, YOU CERTAINLY WON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT WET ROADS AND A LITTLE SNOW ON THE GROUND.
No, they are not invalid. You just don't agree with them and that's fine
Ai albit de când nu te-am mai văzut 😂
Nu mai văzut de vreo 10 ani, înseamnă 😁
@@TunedIntoCars nu chiar 😃
God the back of it just doesnt get any better. Its a disgrace. Makes it look like an old kia
I don’t think it’s a bad looking car.
You also don’t think it’s a great looking car.
If this is car is too stiff for daily, then don't even do a review on the actual M's lol. It will feel like sitting on a wooden wheel cart to you 😂
I did. Not that different in confort, but absolutely stupid in Sport and Sport+
my m550i will walk that while I get a back massage
The M550i is a proper car and slightly quicker, yes. But I have no clue what that has to do with this video 😁
Um not sure why would someone buy or lease a car that they don't like?! I mean you did the test drive and all before signing the papers, didn't you?
Have you actually watched the video? Because I think you might've missed the point
@@TunedIntoCars I watched it. Could it me that the point you are thinking you are making, is not the point people are actually getting from the video?
set the playback speed to 1.25x. your welcome
Thanks!
Dude spent 53grand just to tell us don’t buy it 😀😀
No, I haven't done that. You should watch the video instead of just reading a title and looking at a thumbnail
You should got a 230... Lighter, more nimble and cheaper.
There's about 50kg between them. That's not going to make much of a difference
@@TunedIntoCars It's actually 352 LBS which is about 159 KG. I test drove both and you an actually feel a big difference on the weight. Plus you save about $15,000 on the price.😀
HATER THE CAR IS AWESOME
Can someone tell me why BMW is ruining the way their cars look? Who is making these decisions and why are they ignoring customer and BMW fans opinions?
You and me might not like these designs, but bmw gained attention with them and ultimately have sold more cars as a result
@@TunedIntoCars I love the way the inside of these cars look. They look absolutely super luxurious clean but the outside just doesn’t look right. There is something missing about it.
You bought it in the wrong colour. It’s a fantastic all rounder. Bang for buck in every sense
Technically white is not a color
This car only looks good in black my guy, white wasnt the way to go
You do you
@@TunedIntoCars just saying, black blends in everything and maybe it'd grow on you more like it did for me. But that's irrelevant at this point
Black tires dont look that great
That's what all tires are, black
Who would ever spec a manual to a BMW? BMW literally stretches out the gear ratios to the point of the manuals are lesser than the auto in every aspect. If you want a manual, don't buy a BMW.
Not me, but lots of people would spec a manual to a BMW. The gear ratios is not a BMW problem. Porsche has that too and the list can go on.
@@TunedIntoCars By emission laws manual must be geared differently vs automatics. However, BMW over the last several years as taken it to an extreme. To compare Porsche to BMW is a joke. Manual BMWs are a joke. And anyone who knows anything about BMWs would never suggest getting a manual other than for the thrill of having a manual. Buy a Porsche if a manual is something that you are suggesting.
You're constantly moving the goal post. I thought we were talking about gear ratios. Of course Porsche manuals are much, much better, but they still have ridiculous ratios. A Cayman GTS4.0 manual can reach 110km/h in 2nd gear. That's pretty extreme
@@TunedIntoCars What goal post moved? You are the one who brought up Porsche vs addressing the issue with BMW gearing ratios in the manual. And now, you continue to bring up Porsche but admit that they are better at gearing. Your rebuttal is pretty self defeating.
Let’s restart, why would anyone buy a BMW for a manual transmission when it is so inferior to the automatic.
No I didn't admit anything. The gearing ratios in BMW and Porsche manuals are both ridiculous and they make the transmissions unusable.
What I did say is that Porsche makes better transmissions. Better shift feel, more engaging, etc.
As far as your question, you have my answer in my first reply: lots of people
these cars don't make sense when you can get tesla model 3 performance for cheaper and it is a better daily in every way and costs almost nothing to run compared to guzzlers.
70k is a model 3 performance in Sweden. And considering how bad that interior is, quality wise, i would never pay that much money for it
If you think the M240i xDrive is a bad deal, the FWD Integra Type S with less hp, worse mpg, and a Civic+ interior is the same MSRP.
I work in electrical utilities in the US, Nj to be exact. Our grid is trash, you have to be a special kind of stupid to get an electric car here. Not to mention Tesla's look like breadboxes on wheels. They are as ugly as it gets.
souless fast milk float ,no thanks rather have the superb B58
@@ninjageezer6802 Best part is all these fools who bought them for a tax write off now want to trade in and are finding out that the Tesla 3s aint worth shit because the market is saturated with them.
Prietene, vorbeste in romana, engleza nu este punctul tau forte.
Cum se face oare că astfel de comentarii vin doar de la români 🤔
@@TunedIntoCars Poate pentru ca ar suna mai bine/natural in limba romana.
These huge screen in the cars look terrible. Mercedes are even worse.
Not one valid reason
Define valid
Clickbait!!!!!!!!
you should learn the definition of clickbait. This video is the exact opposite of that. What you see in the title is what you get
Reason #1: Automatics are lame AF.