I've never understood why in the heck would someone buy a house in a neighborhood with large established trees if they are going to be bothered by having them encroach on the property line. This is just so bizarre to me.
The demographic of certain areas like the west coast are changing. Many of the newer residents are not used to living with large trees next to their house. Then you have trees that were favorable in a time when planting large shade trees close to property boundaries was the normal. The combination and outcome is not good.
@hipiebits I have a neighbor like what you described, my oak tree is 7’ from the lot line, the tree has been there that I know of for 65 yrs, he just bought the house 5 yrs ago and bitches about having to clean 35’ of gutter ea yr.. but doesn’t say much when I remind him that the house would broil in the sun all day if not for my oak tree.And there is 4 other maple trees in neighboring houses that drop seedlings and leaves yearly into his gutter. Some folks just hate trees
I'm sure you've run across this situation: Uphill neighbor paying to "view prune" the downhill neighbors tree. The uphill neighbor is standing on the balcony telling you to cut more. The neighbor who actually owns the trees is standing under them telling you to not cut so much! Maddening! But it was an everyday thing working in Marin county.
This makes me remember how blest I am. Virtually everyone I work for is a small town resident. Even the upscale ones. Being thanked and complimented is practically routine. In my early pruning years the city customers were not as warm and friendly, but the tips were much better. That said I have always done my best. And kept communication lines open. And when my wife became my "apprentice", she was well known and loved around town. So they were glad to see her on the job too. As far as cross-cultural things go, I have had no serious trouble there. So again, I am blest.
So true. I talk about this at work a lot with my boss and watched an August Hunicke video where he talked about a certain amount of blood lust that had to be satisfied for the owners of large trees.
Encountered someone exactly like that. They bought into a green leafy suburb, older homes from the 70s with beautiful trees and cottage gardens. Proceeded to cut every tree, pave over the dirt and said the perfect garden should be concrete... just plain disappointing.
Thanks Blair, I'm spending the day dealing with trees that have 2 neighbours complaining. Trying to do right by the tree and the client can be a difficult balance. Abatement pruning is always challenging, nice to see that someone else puts the trees first. Greetings from New Zealand
My friends ask my why my tree guy/contractors charge me less then they get charged. I say because I don’t get charged and extra 20% for haggling and being a pain in the azz. Cooler full of cold drinks and a couple pizzas at lunch time goes a looooooooooong way.
Blair- I was doing a prune job at a client's house and the neighbor came across the street and said "Hey Buddy, while you're here, I'll let you give me a price on my yard too". He'll "let me".... anyway I looked over to his property and I saw an array of trees and shrubs that looked like lolipops, mushrooms, and the such. I said " No thank you, it looks like you need an abstract sculptor, not an arborist"
Ah yes the "No soup for you client!" We've all had a few. I like seeing you climbing with a friction hitch Blair. I still do occasionally just to stay proficient as I never know when I'll need a blakes hitch.
If the oak tree was already there when the neighbor bought their home, they have no expectation for its owners to accommodate their fears, much less to take matters into their own hands and butcher the tree. That's a lawsuit right there. Before you make an offer on a property, make sure there's no potential problems with your neighbor's trees. They have no obligation to make your happy, and you have no right to make demands on them. Perhaps she should move to Arizona so she won't have to endure the evils of big oak trees.
Let me throw a wrench into the scenerio. I have 1 neighbour with 2 silver maples planted next to my fence. I hate those trees. Let me explain that I have lived in my house since it was built. The original neighbour's children came and tried to beautify her yard 2 decades ago by planting ash trees and silver maples next to my fence. I mean 1 ft away from my fence. They told me not to worry about it as they would prune the tree. They ended up selling the house about 8 years ago. The ash trees have died and were removed but the silver maples remain and are lifting and pushing my fence over. The new neighbour who likes the silver maples had the gall to ask me to go 50% in on a new fence with him. I told him no. since he has no plan to remove the tree, the tree will just lift any new fence that gets put in. Another thing that annoys me about this tree is that he will not let me make proper cuts on it by getting into the tree and cutting at the branch collar. That means if I cut a branch it will leave stub cuts. I sincerely hope these trees die. And I love trees but they had no business being planted where they are. If they wanted big shade trees, they should plant them at least more than 1 foot from a fence line. These trees easily get 3ft in diameter.
Bout 30 years ago I was working in Piedmont, California (Oakland Hills) and there's always a conflict between neighbor's over : "I moved here for the trees " !, ..." Well, I moved here for the view" !...
Bingo! times ten. Former city or urban dwellers that have moved to suburbia. in the USA. Heaven forbid your trees or plants drop leaves on their side. You come and clean this up.
Why do you assume they are former urban dwellers because they are Chinese and don't want a big tree beside their house? Most Chinese people are from rural areas. 😂
The vast majority seem to refuse any information these days that doesn't support whatever position they have already decided to take. I question if we can really move forward as a society with so many embracing this mindset. I find it very discouraging.
Thank you for your videos! I was wondering what you thought of buckin billy rays "spiral thinning" of trees? Also you didnt really give your conclusion on the "wind thinning" of the trees. Although, your tone told me that you didnt think much of it. I have learned alot from your channel and value your opinions. Thank you from Memphis, TN.
I'm going to guess that the different trees and climate in ?BC? would impact any recommendations. There were a MILLION reasons to replace that tree in the front. Tree removal isn't a bad option UNLESS you don't replace the trees with something native with the same natural benefits.
I had an experience where a Chinese family cut down the most magnificent Redwood for just that reason. Lived there a few years and moved. So, wipe out an ancient tree for a superstition?? Yes they did. And then they moved. No respect!
My great grandmother had me plant "hate trees" on her property line. Simply because the neighbor would drive on her property to get behind his barn. But they're on our property, and I would be dammed if the neighbor trims them. To be fair they're not trees. They're large, tall bushes.
@@hippiebits2071No. There was a trend of planting trees on property lines back in the day in order to preserve as much yard space as possible while still being able to have a large tree.
This video touched a nerve with me. Like you I really am disheartened by some neighbors attitudes towards trees (and work). Perhaps it’s where I come from but there’s almost a morality on display in attitudes towards trees. On a different note: having lived most of my life on the East Coast I rarely if ever saw the amount of tree pruning as in the Bay Area. I’ve read, perhaps it’s similar, that? 70 or 90% (I forget) of all termite tenting is done in California. Well California is not the only place with termites just as it’s not the only place with trees. Ironically the commonality of hacking off tree limbs here has made me pay attention to trees more than ever in my life.
Your positive attitude about your neighbors is a rare thing in the city. Don’t ever lose it Gino. Up here in the mountains, we have a much better neighbor value system than I hardly ever see down there.
Which wood chips are good for mulch and which ones just attract termites? I had to cut down a 50' live oak in 2020 after I purchased my home in Jax. FL in 2018; it was simply too close to the house and was going to damage the foundation. Hoping to excavate the stump eventually. For now; I just heavy treat the hose and stump area with Taurus SC and granules...
Termites need to tunnel in wood to make their nest. Termites don’t inhabit chips because they are not suitable for a habitat. Chips are mostly good with a few issues. Eucalyptus has oils in it that inhibit growth. Some woods are acidic and can make growing some plants difficult.
Every home I've lived in for the last 40 yrs I've had "ALL" the trees removed from my property if they were within 1/4 mile of the home. When it rains sideways for 12 hours @ 150 mph you'll know why.
You can always rest in the fact that you still did what you could without causing greater problems and leaving the tree in hopeful better health, as always... I turned a job down once because a neighbor wanted half of a cherry (the half over his yard) completely taken off at a double co-dominant split. One, our cherries don't do so well here already; two, it potentially degraded the health of the non-problematic tree (the crotch from the main trunk was at about 65' and went another 35-40' +/- yet beyond), which brings me to reason three, (big cut, big rot, no more climby climb and big lift is big money) I had to make it about future expensive costs and said as a finality to appease that I wouldn't even make a cut unless the whole tree came out... He didn't want to pay for a full removal (🙃) and didn't want the excess future costs, so the tree stayed (😉)... Sometimes it's difficult to both understand the tree and the customer simultaneously, especially when the customer doesn't exactly understand the tree...🤔
My special pricing formula to quote work that doesn't need done or work that is wanted in excess without regard to the trees health is "('IS'+'HC'x'FU'²='MP')" ('IS'=industry standard; 'HC'=hazardous conditions; 'FU'²=the financial deterrent; 'MP'=my price quoted)... Don't feel empty sir, it's always a good day when the tree can win, even if it's a small win... 🙃
"... Hence if man goes on selecting, and thus augmenting (or diminishing), any peculiarity, he will almost certainly modify unintentionally other parts of the structure, owing to the mysterious laws of correlation. ... But probably the most important element is that the animal or plant should be so highly valued by man, that the closest attention is paid to even the slightest deviations in it's qualities or structure. '... there must be a limit...this will be determined by the friction to be overcome, the weight of the body to be carried, and the power of contraction in the muscular fibers.' ... Something, but how much we do not know, may be attributed to the definite action of the conditions of life. Some, perhaps a great, effect may be attributed to the increased use or disuse of parts. The final result is thus rendered infinitely complex. ..." -Charles Darwin (The Origin of Species); differences of "natural selection", whether of a conscious or an unconscious nature, or of a deliberate direct or non-deliberate indirect nature... 🤔
@@arboristBlairGlenn I get that. It's difficult to not feel that disappointment though, because you're not just working for the trees, you like to see a smile from the client, otherwise you'd just be spending time in your treehouse Zipline (🙂) I would presume... And, ya, Darwin, he's a plethora of life in many ways... "Love even your enemies." -Tsun Tzu Hope you can find your smile and the sunshine beyond the rain... 🙂
Glenn, Yup, Border Trees or large trees encroaching neighbors is a royal pain. Is it true that when you prune out parts of the top canopy that similar amounts of roots die bac and are more or less pruned as well? THX
Thanks for the reply... That is why I am asking... Orchards tend to claim that pruning above also prunes below. Is it possible a root structure can outgrow the canopy? Not so much as the tree is older but taking small propper pruning from a young age . @@arboristBlairGlenn
@@arboristBlairGlennHello! Never formally studied trees. Grew up helping cut every yr.for firewood to get through a Michigan winter, family worked at a local saw mill all their lives. I'd been told, " a tree's roots are a basic mirror of the branches we see and when you cut a branch: that root that supplied it's nutrients dies also ". Just grew up believing that. .. But a lot of what my family tought was wrong so it wouldn't surprise me if this is too. But it's always made me aware of doing any harm to a tree: trying to shape into want I might think it should look like. Have watched videos on bonsai formations, they prune roots as well as branches. Just thought it had something to do with these beliefs. Anyway! 🍃🕊🍃
Here is what I found on one site and this makes sense, it pauses but not die back. I'll keep digging. "How Does Crown Pruning Affect Tree Roots? Crown pruning causes a tree to stop growing roots and quickly replace the lost leaves. Without enough leaves, the tree has less energy and hormones it needs to repair its wounds or grow roots. The tree pauses root growth and focuses its energy on growing new shoots and leaves as quickly as possible. The tree can resume root growth when enough new leaves have replaced the lost leaves and energy production ramps up." @@arboristBlairGlenn
I think developers should just stop planting/leaving trees that are so close to property lines. Keeping them ten to fifteen feet back at minimum would prevent so many disputes, and this would mean the try doesn’t get pruned to oblivion and so it will be far healthier.
How can a neighbor pay, to have their neighbors tree trimmed? I don't understand that. It's not their property. I would never let some Karen do that to my property.
In s. Carolina, your neighbors tree is their own but if it falls on your property, doing damage, its Your problem... " no fault " state? I think that's how they say it. Don't seem right to me but then that goes for a lot of things in my opinion.
@@alotl1kevegas860 It is in most states. Property lines go vertical, so to speak. I've worked in many that were this way and finally retired to michigan where it is also the the law. Here it can even be harmful to the tree and the limbs still can be removed. Civil laws are wonky and all over the place.
I love my huge silver maples and over the years we've had them pruned multiple times, so they look great. I do not like my neighbors locust tree that hangs over my driveway and is very unkempt. Easy solution was to ask if we could pay to have it trimmed back. That's what we did and it looks so much better now. We recently helped the neighbor by cutting suckers, useless branches and bundling them for pick up. That's how neighbors should be.
Silver maple has no business being planted in a small lot. If you are on less than 1/2 acre or its planted next to a property line, it is very inconsiderate. It's a terrible tree that break branches easily and sends out millions of spinner seeds every year.
@@oh_k8 Might be but we've removed a couple of huge (HUGE) branches that hung over our house. These trees are planted in every single backyard, up and down the street. All in 1955.
@@Remember_when The fact that you've removed huge branches only makes my statement more true. We all know that species of tree isn't recommended to be planted in residential neighborhoods or boulevards anymore, and there's a good reason for that. I'm glad you enjoy it tho.
@johnr5252....Better hope that CNN or the "woke" crowd doesn't read that statement....they will banish you to the deepest levels of Hell...lol..!! And then they themselves will do the same thing and call it okay.
Your comment is ignorant. In asia, they don't plant huge shade trees in their yard. They seem to have figured out that this is not a good idea. You only see huge trees in parks and public spaces, but never standing next to one's home. For a small yard like that, tell me that doesn't make sense?
It requires communication. Have you ever considered trying to learn to speak their language so you can communicate better with them. Because yeah you come across sounding racist and if you're trying to teach then maybe you need to come to them (learn how to speak at least basic things in THEIR language) and not the other way around
I didn’t come across as racist in any way. I stayed that there are man different cultures and some cultures behave differently. With Asians, I find they are difficult to deal with because they have different ideas about what they want to do to the trees. Regardless of being good for the tree or not. Learning Chinese at this point in my life could only happen if I lived in their world.
The client wanted to keep the tree albeit wanted it cut down very hard. That would kill a big oak like this. Some cultures are not used to dealing with large trees near their home and think anything can be pollarded down to a container sized specimen. That would have killed the tree. He was hired to prune the tree, not to remove it.
Ah, the good old "Make my tree look like a poorly disguised cell tower" jobs.
I've never understood why in the heck would someone buy a house in a neighborhood with large established trees if they are going to be bothered by having them encroach on the property line. This is just so bizarre to me.
Asking people to think ahead?
Well, after 35+ years in a spot, a nutty neighbor can grow stuff on a south boundary that makes no sense to have to live under.
The demographic of certain areas like the west coast are changing. Many of the newer residents are not used to living with large trees next to their house. Then you have trees that were favorable in a time when planting large shade trees close to property boundaries was the normal. The combination and outcome is not good.
@@oh_k8 the trees were planted for shade in the summer back when every house had ac.
@hipiebits
I have a neighbor like what you described, my oak tree is 7’ from the lot line, the tree has been there that I know of for 65 yrs, he just bought the house 5 yrs ago and bitches about having to clean 35’ of gutter ea yr.. but doesn’t say much when I remind him that the house would broil in the sun all day if not for my oak tree.And there is 4 other maple trees in neighboring houses that drop seedlings and leaves yearly into his gutter. Some folks just hate trees
I'm sure you've run across this situation: Uphill neighbor paying to "view prune" the downhill neighbors tree. The uphill neighbor is standing on the balcony telling you to cut more. The neighbor who actually owns the trees is standing under them telling you to not cut so much! Maddening! But it was an everyday thing working in Marin county.
All the time. I hate view jobs
Frustrating for sure, but hilarious in it's relatability.
I’m lucky that my property isn’t lined up like that because I would go absolutely apeshit if somebody was cutting on my trees just for their view
This makes me remember how blest I am. Virtually everyone I work for is a small town resident. Even the upscale ones. Being thanked and complimented is practically routine. In my early pruning years the city customers were not as warm and friendly, but the tips were much better.
That said I have always done my best. And kept communication lines open. And when my wife became my "apprentice", she was well known and loved around town. So they were glad to see her on the job too.
As far as cross-cultural things go, I have had no serious trouble there. So again, I am blest.
What small town do you live in?
I've come to the conclusion that some people don't like having to look up to trees, so they get them cut just to show them who is boss.
So true. I talk about this at work a lot with my boss and watched an August Hunicke video where he talked about a certain amount of blood lust that had to be satisfied for the owners of large trees.
@@steelonius They can't have big wood standing proud while theirs is all limp!
Encountered someone exactly like that. They bought into a green leafy suburb, older homes from the 70s with beautiful trees and cottage gardens. Proceeded to cut every tree, pave over the dirt and said the perfect garden should be concrete... just plain disappointing.
See those yards every day
Thanks Blair, I'm spending the day dealing with trees that have 2 neighbours complaining. Trying to do right by the tree and the client can be a difficult balance.
Abatement pruning is always challenging, nice to see that someone else puts the trees first.
Greetings from New Zealand
I hate view jobs
That Mexican guy is a weapon of a climbing arborist
Jorje has been with me 28 years. We trade off climbing but he never gets any video of me! So I make him the star of the show😊
My friends ask my why my tree guy/contractors charge me less then they get charged. I say because I don’t get charged and extra 20% for haggling and being a pain in the azz. Cooler full of cold drinks and a couple pizzas at lunch time goes a looooooooooong way.
...and don't bring the food out in the middle of the job like I did with my roofers, oops. ;)
Blair- I was doing a prune job at a client's house and the neighbor came across the street and said "Hey Buddy, while you're here, I'll let you give me a price on my yard too". He'll "let me".... anyway I looked over to his property and I saw an array of trees and shrubs that looked like lolipops, mushrooms, and the such. I said " No thank you, it looks like you need an abstract sculptor, not an arborist"
I understand
Some people just want to see big cuts and take trees for granted. Thanks for the video
A lot of companies just make a few big and quick chainsaw cuts and say it’s done. Big cuts equate to future decay pockets.
Love your videos!!
Live in your area and know your pain. Trees being cut for no reason, so sad.
Glad that you posted this kind of video. Still much to learn from you. Thanks!
Got a lot of info to get out of my system before I am done.
Ah yes the "No soup for you client!" We've all had a few. I like seeing you climbing with a friction hitch Blair. I still do occasionally just to stay proficient as I never know when I'll need a blakes hitch.
I like the taught line for rapid descent. Quick tug on the tail, holds fine. But I’m so old school
@@arboristBlairGlenn Monkey Fist is all I ever use along with "Cat's Paw" for my flipline.
If the oak tree was already there when the neighbor bought their home, they have no expectation for its owners to accommodate their fears, much less to take matters into their own hands and butcher the tree. That's a lawsuit right there. Before you make an offer on a property, make sure there's no potential problems with your neighbor's trees. They have no obligation to make your happy, and you have no right to make demands on them. Perhaps she should move to Arizona so she won't have to endure the evils of big oak trees.
Yup
Let me throw a wrench into the scenerio. I have 1 neighbour with 2 silver maples planted next to my fence. I hate those trees. Let me explain that I have lived in my house since it was built. The original neighbour's children came and tried to beautify her yard 2 decades ago by planting ash trees and silver maples next to my fence. I mean 1 ft away from my fence. They told me not to worry about it as they would prune the tree. They ended up selling the house about 8 years ago. The ash trees have died and were removed but the silver maples remain and are lifting and pushing my fence over. The new neighbour who likes the silver maples had the gall to ask me to go 50% in on a new fence with him. I told him no. since he has no plan to remove the tree, the tree will just lift any new fence that gets put in. Another thing that annoys me about this tree is that he will not let me make proper cuts on it by getting into the tree and cutting at the branch collar. That means if I cut a branch it will leave stub cuts. I sincerely hope these trees die. And I love trees but they had no business being planted where they are. If they wanted big shade trees, they should plant them at least more than 1 foot from a fence line. These trees easily get 3ft in diameter.
Bout 30 years ago I was working in Piedmont, California (Oakland Hills) and there's always a conflict between neighbor's over : "I moved here for the trees " !, ..." Well, I moved here for the view" !...
I feel your pain. People are often difficult! Sorry man.
Bingo! times ten. Former city or urban dwellers that have moved to suburbia. in the USA.
Heaven forbid your trees or plants drop leaves on their side. You come and clean this up.
Why do you assume they are former urban dwellers because they are Chinese and don't want a big tree beside their house? Most Chinese people are from rural areas. 😂
Great vid. We appreciate your work and spreading of knowledge. Love the outro. Cheers
Didn’t plan it, just came out😊
Some people refuse to be educated, they prefer being willingly ignorant.
The vast majority seem to refuse any information these days that doesn't support whatever position they have already decided to take. I question if we can really move forward as a society with so many embracing this mindset.
I find it very discouraging.
Thank you for your videos! I was wondering what you thought of buckin billy rays "spiral thinning" of trees? Also you didnt really give your conclusion on the "wind thinning" of the trees. Although, your tone told me that you didnt think much of it. I have learned alot from your channel and value your opinions. Thank you from Memphis, TN.
I have gone to tree conferences where the speaker showed the flawed over thinning idea. Need to find the research before I do a video on that topic.
I'm going to guess that the different trees and climate in ?BC? would impact any recommendations. There were a MILLION reasons to replace that tree in the front. Tree removal isn't a bad option UNLESS you don't replace the trees with something native with the same natural benefits.
Chinese sometimes may relate to Feng Shui and American young couples in 30's they like bright rooms, so they cut down old trees.
I had an experience where a Chinese family cut down the most magnificent Redwood for just that reason. Lived there a few years and moved. So, wipe out an ancient tree for a superstition?? Yes they did. And then they moved. No respect!
On the other hand, planting trees next to the property line that eventually grow huge and way into neighbor's yard seems inconsiderate.
Many times those huge trees were standing long before the neighborhood existed.
My great grandmother had me plant "hate trees" on her property line. Simply because the neighbor would drive on her property to get behind his barn. But they're on our property, and I would be dammed if the neighbor trims them. To be fair they're not trees. They're large, tall bushes.
@@hippiebits2071No. There was a trend of planting trees on property lines back in the day in order to preserve as much yard space as possible while still being able to have a large tree.
This video touched a nerve with me. Like you I really am disheartened by some neighbors attitudes towards trees (and work). Perhaps it’s where I come from but there’s almost a morality on display in attitudes towards trees.
On a different note: having lived most of my life on the East Coast I rarely if ever saw the amount of tree pruning as in the Bay Area. I’ve read, perhaps it’s similar, that? 70 or 90% (I forget) of all termite tenting is done in California. Well California is not the only place with termites just as it’s not the only place with trees. Ironically the commonality of hacking off tree limbs here has made me pay attention to trees more than ever in my life.
Your positive attitude about your neighbors is a rare thing in the city. Don’t ever lose it Gino. Up here in the mountains, we have a much better neighbor value system than I hardly ever see down there.
@@arboristBlairGlenn I will keep the faith Blair !
Which wood chips are good for mulch and which ones just attract termites? I had to cut down a 50' live oak in 2020 after I purchased my home in Jax. FL in 2018; it was simply too close to the house and was going to damage the foundation. Hoping to excavate the stump eventually. For now; I just heavy treat the hose and stump area with Taurus SC and granules...
Termites need to tunnel in wood to make their nest. Termites don’t inhabit chips because they are not suitable for a habitat. Chips are mostly good with a few issues. Eucalyptus has oils in it that inhibit growth. Some woods are acidic and can make growing some plants difficult.
Nothing worse than no thank you. I'll even over look an errant cup of tea if they are appreciative clients.
My job is so much more than my pay. I like to transform a persons yard environment. I’m more of an exterior designer😊
Very difficult to work for a client who is unappreciative of your work. If I find a client to be that way I will not work for them again.
Wish there was a lousy client list service where contractors could “black list” people who are not worth working for. Reverse of Yelp or Next Door.
Why don’t these destructive people move to condominiums where they won’t be persecuted by having to properly maintain the trees?
Now there’s a question
Every home I've lived in for the last 40 yrs I've had "ALL" the trees removed from my property if they were within 1/4 mile of the home.
When it rains sideways for 12 hours @ 150 mph you'll know why.
Looking forward to a day when you can't do that any more, you enlightened being you.
You can always rest in the fact that you still did what you could without causing greater problems and leaving the tree in hopeful better health, as always...
I turned a job down once because a neighbor wanted half of a cherry (the half over his yard) completely taken off at a double co-dominant split. One, our cherries don't do so well here already; two, it potentially degraded the health of the non-problematic tree (the crotch from the main trunk was at about 65' and went another 35-40' +/- yet beyond), which brings me to reason three, (big cut, big rot, no more climby climb and big lift is big money) I had to make it about future expensive costs and said as a finality to appease that I wouldn't even make a cut unless the whole tree came out... He didn't want to pay for a full removal (🙃) and didn't want the excess future costs, so the tree stayed (😉)... Sometimes it's difficult to both understand the tree and the customer simultaneously, especially when the customer doesn't exactly understand the tree...🤔
My special pricing formula to quote work that doesn't need done or work that is wanted in excess without regard to the trees health is "('IS'+'HC'x'FU'²='MP')" ('IS'=industry standard; 'HC'=hazardous conditions; 'FU'²=the financial deterrent; 'MP'=my price quoted)...
Don't feel empty sir, it's always a good day when the tree can win, even if it's a small win...
🙃
"... Hence if man goes on selecting, and thus augmenting (or diminishing), any peculiarity, he will almost certainly modify unintentionally other parts of the structure, owing to the mysterious laws of correlation. ... But probably the most important element is that the animal or plant should be so highly valued by man, that the closest attention is paid to even the slightest deviations in it's qualities or structure. '... there must be a limit...this will be determined by the friction to be overcome, the weight of the body to be carried, and the power of contraction in the muscular fibers.' ... Something, but how much we do not know, may be attributed to the definite action of the conditions of life. Some, perhaps a great, effect may be attributed to the increased use or disuse of parts. The final result is thus rendered infinitely complex. ..."
-Charles Darwin (The Origin of
Species); differences of "natural
selection", whether of a conscious
or an unconscious nature, or of a
deliberate direct or non-deliberate
indirect nature...
🤔
Thanks for your comments. Quoting Darwin? I work for the trees but the client pays the bill. I’m tired of working for crap clients.
@@arboristBlairGlenn I get that. It's difficult to not feel that disappointment though, because you're not just working for the trees, you like to see a smile from the client, otherwise you'd just be spending time in your treehouse Zipline (🙂) I would presume... And, ya, Darwin, he's a plethora of life in many ways...
"Love even your enemies."
-Tsun Tzu
Hope you can find your smile and the sunshine beyond the rain... 🙂
I'm probably projecting myself a bit here too, but it's in ourselves, it seems to me, that we find our greater mode of sympathy and empathy...🙃
Glenn,
Yup, Border Trees or large trees encroaching neighbors is a royal pain.
Is it true that when you prune out parts of the top canopy that similar amounts of roots die bac and are more or less pruned as well?
THX
Why would roots die? Never heard that pruning could cause root dieback. If you know more, please let me know.
Thanks for the reply...
That is why I am asking...
Orchards tend to claim that pruning above also prunes below.
Is it possible a root structure can outgrow the canopy?
Not so much as the tree is older but taking small propper pruning from a young age .
@@arboristBlairGlenn
@@arboristBlairGlennHello!
Never formally studied trees. Grew up helping cut every yr.for firewood to get through a Michigan winter, family worked at a local saw mill all their lives. I'd been told, " a tree's roots are a basic mirror of the branches we see and when you cut a branch: that root that supplied it's nutrients dies also ".
Just grew up believing that. .. But a lot of what my family tought was wrong so it wouldn't surprise me if this is too.
But it's always made me aware of doing any harm to a tree: trying to shape into want I might think it should look like.
Have watched videos on bonsai formations, they prune roots as well as branches. Just thought it had something to do with these beliefs.
Anyway!
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Here is what I found on one site and this makes sense, it pauses but not die back. I'll keep digging.
"How Does Crown Pruning Affect Tree Roots?
Crown pruning causes a tree to stop growing roots and quickly replace the lost leaves. Without enough leaves, the tree has less energy and hormones it needs to repair its wounds or grow roots.
The tree pauses root growth and focuses its energy on growing new shoots and leaves as quickly as possible.
The tree can resume root growth when enough new leaves have replaced the lost leaves and energy production ramps up."
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I agree with you Blair
You have to understand a lot of people could care less about trees or how to care for them. They just want them cut down
I do realize that. And that is part of why I have a limited viewership. Most people can’t see the forest for the trees.
I think developers should just stop planting/leaving trees that are so close to property lines. Keeping them ten to fifteen feet back at minimum would prevent so many disputes, and this would mean the try doesn’t get pruned to oblivion and so it will be far healthier.
Assuming the homeowners don’t plant too close?
On TO THE NEXT ONE.
Yep, keep on keeping on- - -
Delicate subject.
Needs more attention. What can a neighbor do? What can’t they do? What mistakes are going to result in a possible lawsuit?
Ahhh I see you met my back neighbor…
Some people
Has this live oak been lions tailed
what are cross overs?
Inside branches that rub
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With regards your last comment: I hope you got paid.
Yes but not a thank you, good job or anything positive despite the good job.
Please keep ur sense of humor ( No soup for you) sometimes ppl are the worst don’t let them drag you off your square !
I was wondering how many people would get it
How can a neighbor pay, to have their neighbors tree trimmed? I don't understand that. It's not their property. I would never let some Karen do that to my property.
Legally, one is entitled to prune a tree overhanging your property. But, it needs to be done properly. That’s where the problems occur.
@@arboristBlairGlenn Is that a California state thing? I've never heard of that here in Upstate New York.
In s. Carolina, your neighbors tree is their own but if it falls on your property, doing damage, its Your problem... " no fault " state? I think that's how they say it. Don't seem right to me but then that goes for a lot of things in my opinion.
@@alotl1kevegas860 It is in most states. Property lines go vertical, so to speak. I've worked in many that were this way and finally retired to michigan where it is also the the law. Here it can even be harmful to the tree and the limbs still can be removed. Civil laws are wonky and all over the place.
@@Yellow.Dog. So glad I live in the country. Nobody is touching my trees lol.
"Asian", was she from Turkey, or maybe Iraq? You did a great job. Here in S. FL many people butcher or hat rack their trees for fear of hurricanes.
I love my huge silver maples and over the years we've had them pruned multiple times, so they look great. I do not like my neighbors locust tree that hangs over my driveway and is very unkempt. Easy solution was to ask if we could pay to have it trimmed back. That's what we did and it looks so much better now. We recently helped the neighbor by cutting suckers, useless branches and bundling them for pick up. That's how neighbors should be.
Silver maple has no business being planted in a small lot. If you are on less than 1/2 acre or its planted next to a property line, it is very inconsiderate. It's a terrible tree that break branches easily and sends out millions of spinner seeds every year.
@@oh_k8 Since these trees were planted in 1955, I had nothing to do with it.
@@Remember_whenThose trees are a ticking time bomb, just saying.
@@oh_k8 Might be but we've removed a couple of huge (HUGE) branches that hung over our house. These trees are planted in every single backyard, up and down the street. All in 1955.
@@Remember_when The fact that you've removed huge branches only makes my statement more true. We all know that species of tree isn't recommended to be planted in residential neighborhoods or boulevards anymore, and there's a good reason for that. I'm glad you enjoy it tho.
Asians.
Explains a lot.
@johnr5252....Better hope that CNN or the "woke" crowd doesn't read that statement....they will banish you to the deepest levels of Hell...lol..!! And then they themselves will do the same thing and call it okay.
Culturally difficult to deal with. Always want to talk me down. Don’t hear my advice.
They don't respect your or any skilled trade.
Your comment is ignorant. In asia, they don't plant huge shade trees in their yard. They seem to have figured out that this is not a good idea. You only see huge trees in parks and public spaces, but never standing next to one's home. For a small yard like that, tell me that doesn't make sense?
It requires communication. Have you ever considered trying to learn to speak their language so you can communicate better with them. Because yeah you come across sounding racist and if you're trying to teach then maybe you need to come to them (learn how to speak at least basic things in THEIR language) and not the other way around
I didn’t come across as racist in any way. I stayed that there are man different cultures and some cultures behave differently. With Asians, I find they are difficult to deal with because they have different ideas about what they want to do to the trees. Regardless of being good for the tree or not. Learning Chinese at this point in my life could only happen if I lived in their world.
I dont understand why you wont do what the customer wants. if they want it cut so crao dont fall on the cars paint and the roof, cut it......
Might as well cut you up too.
The client wanted to keep the tree albeit wanted it cut down very hard. That would kill a big oak like this. Some cultures are not used to dealing with large trees near their home and think anything can be pollarded down to a container sized specimen. That would have killed the tree. He was hired to prune the tree, not to remove it.