I didn't know how it worked until I was already making this video and decided to figure it out. It can lead to some weirdness in other spots, too, since there are events that fire when you leave a trigger that expect you to actually be gone.
This method does guarantee a 100% success rate in saving the nightsong. Not only is it funny but it gives you a chance to finish whatever you have to finish pre-freeing the nightsong.
OOH that explains why shadowheart got pissed and left the party as if I stole the nightsong choice when I made her a sheep during her cutscene.. the entire cutscenes play outs pretty much as intended except there is a sheep spazzing out. Highly recommend it for comedy.
Hah, yeah, with regular polymorph, which lasts a few turns, you'd have time to start the Nightsong scene before Shadowheart takes off. I'll have to try that out.
The idea of coping with a state machine as complex as the Nightsong decision gives me hives. Reminds me a lot of the crazy Landsmeet diagram from DA: O.
Keep making videos, you're going to be a huge success. Great "radio" voice, very interesting and unique content. Funny! I love how you decode bg3 for us.
They need to add the wind effects to the scene. That actually maked it look even better. A glitch that happened to me was sending the spear to camp, which prevented me from dropping items with shadowheart for the rest of the game. Ruined my solo honor mode haha. And another annoying random one that may be a mod problem, is doing the silence trick on minthara to go back to act 1 will keep her stuck at the throne in moonrise. But that is probably my fault for playing on patch 7 with older mods.
At first I was mad at Larian that Polymorph in BG3 only turns folks into sheep, but honestly it has lead so some pretty hilarious moments now. That sheep "talking" to Shadowheart is too funny. "Ewe" made me do a spit take.
I haven't tried it (yet), but the regular Polymorph spell lasts a few turns, so you should have a chance to start the scene before Shadowheart gets angry and takes off.
Not sure which, "thing" you mean, in this case. Though anything in the Shadowfell that involves the pixie bell polymorph is mostly moot, since you'd have to prepare in advance by stripping the pixie shield buff off before going inside.
Great video as always. Larian will probably fix this bug with the next big update. I'm wondering if they will continue fixing these kind of bugs even after they released the last big patch. Probably not but one can hope.
@@SlimXGthey fix really obscure ones to break speedrunning sometimes but other times ignore commonly ran into bugs 😂 If you want to be a hero Slim try to find out why we sometimes fall through elevators because it seems Larian can’t
@@ProxyGateTactician Hahah I'm afraid that changing in-game physics is beyond my abilities. And I've actually never had a character fall through an elevator . .
It would be interesting to learn more about how to trigger orphan origin moments - when i have tried to do these it tends fo resort to avatar origin moments instead 🤔
Most of the time, it's a matter of range. It was actually easier to do it in the past, but in Patch 6, they made it more likely that your avatar will be preferred as the leader of the dialogue. But if you split the avatar off and leave them somewhere at enough of a distance, it will usually work to get the OOM version of a dialogue. Or jump them into a chasm . .
Companion Shadowheart will tell you to go get it if you try to enter without it, and attack you if you blow her off. I've heard that you can bypass this by casting Feign Death on her before you go in. But since you can just drop it once you go inside, there's no real reason to bother taking any extra steps.
you can just throw a spear into a chasm, for this they somehow accounted, if you don't have the weapon at all apparently not for dropping to the ground tho 🤷
@@doloresabernathy9809 There is a different dialogue that plays when Shadowheart isn't around. The part I show in the video about how Shadowheart can't use the spear anymore actually comes from that dialogue, since no one else can use the spear.
Now, if only I could find a trick to escape from making videos about the Nightsong
Recorded on Patch 7, version 4.1.1.6072089
The sheep standing behind Shart and Nightsong having this deep conversation is the funniest shit ever
Even though it had nothing to do with the actual bug, I just had to show it
Ewe really outdid yourself!
SlimX - when datamining meets comedy.
"Babe, wake up. SlimX just uploaded."
I'm ashamed of how much I laughed at the ewe joke.
I may or may not have made this video just for that joke.
@SlimXG bloody legend
So that's how the pixie bell trick works. I have seen it used before, but nobody could explain how it worked besides "it just does". Thanks, SlimX!
I didn't know how it worked until I was already making this video and decided to figure it out. It can lead to some weirdness in other spots, too, since there are events that fire when you leave a trigger that expect you to actually be gone.
“Ewe finally showed ewerself” 😂
This method does guarantee a 100% success rate in saving the nightsong. Not only is it funny but it gives you a chance to finish whatever you have to finish pre-freeing the nightsong.
🗿🗿 The Crown of Karsus
The orb.
@@SlimXGMYSTRA.
OOH that explains why shadowheart got pissed and left the party as if I stole the nightsong choice when I made her a sheep during her cutscene.. the entire cutscenes play outs pretty much as intended except there is a sheep spazzing out. Highly recommend it for comedy.
Hah, yeah, with regular polymorph, which lasts a few turns, you'd have time to start the Nightsong scene before Shadowheart takes off. I'll have to try that out.
The Weave.
Karsus.
Really enjoying that footage of Shart running back and forth not really knowing where to go to leave the party. 😅
Telling your boss that you quit, but then you can't find the door out of the office
The idea of coping with a state machine as complex as the Nightsong decision gives me hives. Reminds me a lot of the crazy Landsmeet diagram from DA: O.
nightsong: lay a hand on me not quite sharran
shart: 🧍♂️
wait for Update 8 to ressurect your Avatar for free during this dialogue
It wouldn’t be the first time they do that in the game
I see a SlimX upload, I click immediately and am ready to learn more cheese and nonsense!
Keep making videos, you're going to be a huge success. Great "radio" voice, very interesting and unique content. Funny! I love how you decode bg3 for us.
They need to add the wind effects to the scene. That actually maked it look even better.
A glitch that happened to me was sending the spear to camp, which prevented me from dropping items with shadowheart for the rest of the game. Ruined my solo honor mode haha.
And another annoying random one that may be a mod problem, is doing the silence trick on minthara to go back to act 1 will keep her stuck at the throne in moonrise. But that is probably my fault for playing on patch 7 with older mods.
At first I was mad at Larian that Polymorph in BG3 only turns folks into sheep, but honestly it has lead so some pretty hilarious moments now. That sheep "talking" to Shadowheart is too funny. "Ewe" made me do a spit take.
When that joke popped into my head, it was the moment I knew this video was worth making
What if Shart is the sheep? I think i once saw a video of a sheep stabbing the nightsong. Or maybe I dreamed that?
I haven't tried it (yet), but the regular Polymorph spell lasts a few turns, so you should have a chance to start the scene before Shadowheart gets angry and takes off.
but you could use the pixie glitch to get the avatar away from the shadowfell so shart will do the thing alone
Not sure which, "thing" you mean, in this case. Though anything in the Shadowfell that involves the pixie bell polymorph is mostly moot, since you'd have to prepare in advance by stripping the pixie shield buff off before going inside.
@@SlimXG the "thing" is failing to kill the nightsong due to not having the spear but being alone as a companion in that scene
@@MagicGonads Oh, then yeah, teleporting the avatar out would probably do the trick. So much easier to just jump in a hole, though.
@@SlimXG ig it's feasible for a 'no deaths' run lol
SlimX posted!!! My goat
That's a sheep, not a goat. Easy thing to mix up.
@ Karsus.
@@Mastadonsonthe orb
What tool is used to visualize dialog at 3:39?
That is from the official BG3 toolkit
tips for act 3 when ????
you mentioned silenced, gaseous form, invisible, polymorphed, etc. i'm wondering, does it still apply to wild shape?
Yeah, you get broken out of wild shape when the dialogue starts. Though that's pretty standard for Wild Shape.
Oh goodie, another way to cheese the game
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Great video as always. Larian will probably fix this bug with the next big update. I'm wondering if they will continue fixing these kind of bugs even after they released the last big patch. Probably not but one can hope.
Bugs like this have existed for a long time, so I wouldn't be surprised, either way, at this point.
@@SlimXGthey fix really obscure ones to break speedrunning sometimes but other times ignore commonly ran into bugs 😂
If you want to be a hero Slim try to find out why we sometimes fall through elevators because it seems Larian can’t
@@ProxyGateTactician Hahah I'm afraid that changing in-game physics is beyond my abilities. And I've actually never had a character fall through an elevator . .
It would be interesting to learn more about how to trigger orphan origin moments - when i have tried to do these it tends fo resort to avatar origin moments instead 🤔
Most of the time, it's a matter of range. It was actually easier to do it in the past, but in Patch 6, they made it more likely that your avatar will be preferred as the leader of the dialogue. But if you split the avatar off and leave them somewhere at enough of a distance, it will usually work to get the OOM version of a dialogue. Or jump them into a chasm . .
EWE!!!!
Can you enter the shadowfell without the spear?
Companion Shadowheart will tell you to go get it if you try to enter without it, and attack you if you blow her off. I've heard that you can bypass this by casting Feign Death on her before you go in. But since you can just drop it once you go inside, there's no real reason to bother taking any extra steps.
you can just throw a spear into a chasm, for this they somehow accounted, if you don't have the weapon at all
apparently not for dropping to the ground tho 🤷
And what if you never recruited shadowheart …. Somehow I’ve never seen a clip of that and I never wanted to play through without shart.
@@doloresabernathy9809 There is a different dialogue that plays when Shadowheart isn't around. The part I show in the video about how Shadowheart can't use the spear anymore actually comes from that dialogue, since no one else can use the spear.
I SEE SLIMX. I HIT LIKE BUTTON.
edit: 3:07 lmao
Ewe 🤣🤣
3:13 Soulja Boy moment