Interesting idea! I'll use your option at 11.29 with a Zoom H4 Essential and not with the "Tentacle". Then I have the opportunity to use my existing ones for less money; to use external microphones or the H4 directly.Of course, in this constellation I have no timecode and have to synchronize according to the Wavaform.
Great to hear this video gave you some inspiration to find your own way of doing this. That’s what I’m making these kind of videos for 🙂 Thanks for watching!
Thanks. Really useful. I need an alternative sound recording method for a Lumix S5iiX as it creates strange noises and beeps on the audio tracks. But I need convenient synchronisation. These setups are a great starting point.
Thanks for sharing your experiences on that. I am also considering the track e for my setup. Have you ever played with the idea to pi close up the audio out of a soundboard with the track e? That would make such nice portable setup for venues.
I have. In fact, I recorded a live performance of a 4 man band 2 days ago. I got an (unbalanced) line-out from the mixer into the Track E. works great and syncs with the video in post 🙂
Thanks for sharing, I found it very interesting. For my 2 camera setup, I use the Deity TC-1 to get timecode. I purchased a 3 pack of the TC-1s. I use the Deity TC-1 plugged into Deity 4 Mini 3.5mm input port and then the Deity 4 mini 3.5mm output port to the 3.5mm mic in on my GH5. This gets me a mono scratch audio track on one channel and the timecode audio on the other track. I have 2 GH5s that I use this setup for and then I plug the last Deity TC-1 into the timecode port on my Tascam DR-701D which can record up to 6 audio tracks. I can monitor the audio off of the Tascam. The only thing that I am missing is 32-bit float, so I have been looking at replacing the Tascam with a Zoom F6 which would give me the 32-bit float and everything else would stay the same.
Seems like a great setup! And yes, 32bit float is great to have as a solo shooter. I’m curious: you have a TC-1 plugged into the D4 Mini. Do you get any bleeding from the timecode signal onto the other channel (your mono scratch track)?
@@RedFrameTech I have not noticed any bleed from the timecode signal. In Davinci I make both my channels to be the scratch audio and I don’t hear any timecode signal.
Lots to think about with this video. Am I right in thinking the track E will record a left and right channel, I was thinking about splitting the input for a 2 mic set up
Yeah, there’s a lot of info in this one 😅 And you’re correct: the track e records a stereo (or double mono) track. So what you want to do would work fine. Just remember that your wireless receiver probably puts out a 24bit signal
Brilliant. I have a GH6 as well, and im all sorted for the rig except for audio. The Float E looks really cool. What format are you recording video in just curious. ProRes?
Thanks! Hope this helps you sort your audio setup out. I don’t shoot ProRes very often. At least, not with the GH6 (internal/ssd) because that’s limited to C4K/5.7K (which is 17:9) and 5.8K. I usually need regular 4K UHD. So I mainly shoot 4K All-I MOV and/or record ProRes to my Ninja V
Hi, Thank you for recommending the MKE 600 for the G9. I recently received one this week. Could you please share your preferred method for connecting the MKE 600 directly to the G9, such as the specific cable or wireless interface you recommend? I'm considering a 1.5m cable for a talking head setup and would appreciate any insights or suggestions you might have. Thank you!
It was the mic I used to record this video 🙂 My MKE600 came with a xlr to 3.5mm cable. If yours did too, you could just extend it with a regular xlr cable. If you want to go wireless, you could do it with any wireless system that has a 3.5mm mic input using the above mentioned cable. Hope that helps!
Is it possible to facilitate installation on the GH6 by recording to the internal memory card and freeing up the ports? I don’t quite understand why you need devices for time code when you shoot with one camera? How long does the battery last on the synchronizer?
Of course you can. You’re right: you don’t need timecode when using one camera. But for syncing the audio from the track e to the video, timecode makes it much easier. Especially in situations where you might start and stop recording a lot. The battery of the track e far outlasts the GH6’s battery. So that’s not really a limitation
I was expecting at least one comment about the røde wireless pro 😄 (for good reasons) Problem with that system is that it’s not much more than a 2.4Ghz wireless system with 32bit float internal recording. It can’t put out a timecode signal, it doesn’t sync timecode to other devices, but more importantly: the timecode functionality has some serious issues afaik. The internal timecode doesn’t match up to the receiver. Which defeats the point of timecode
Interesting tutorial for small one-man-band setups. However I can't help feel that you're about to outgrow the prosumer camera form-factor and step up to a big-boy cinema camera for your business.😀
You might be right 😄 and I do use them from time to time. I just don’t own one. But on the other hand: I still have no image quality complaints with the cameras I have., I like that I can strip everything down to a compact size and there’s some great lenses for the system. Also, the money I’m not spending on more expensive camera bodies, I can invest in lighting and audio equipment. But I can’t deny that I’m interested in cinema cameras.
Interesting idea! I'll use your option at 11.29 with
a Zoom H4 Essential and not with the "Tentacle". Then I have the opportunity to use my existing ones for less money;
to use external microphones or the H4 directly.Of course, in this constellation I have no timecode and have to synchronize according to the Wavaform.
Great to hear this video gave you some inspiration to find your own way of doing this. That’s what I’m making these kind of videos for 🙂
Thanks for watching!
The Best Voice on TH-cam and equally great reviews :)
Thank you Keith!
This was the right video at the perfect time. I'll show you the results when finished. Great rig.
Awesome! Curious to see
Thanks. Really useful. I need an alternative sound recording method for a Lumix S5iiX as it creates strange noises and beeps on the audio tracks. But I need convenient synchronisation. These setups are a great starting point.
You’re welcome 🙂 Glad to hear it gives you a starting point. Thanks for watching!
Thanks for sharing your experiences on that. I am also considering the track e for my setup. Have you ever played with the idea to pi close up the audio out of a soundboard with the track e? That would make such nice portable setup for venues.
I have. In fact, I recorded a live performance of a 4 man band 2 days ago. I got an (unbalanced) line-out from the mixer into the Track E. works great and syncs with the video in post 🙂
Great information , thank you. Now I have to do some serious thinking.
Thanks! Yeah, there’s a lot of options in this video 😅
Thanks for sharing, I found it very interesting. For my 2 camera setup, I use the Deity TC-1 to get timecode. I purchased a 3 pack of the TC-1s. I use the Deity TC-1 plugged into Deity 4 Mini 3.5mm input port and then the Deity 4 mini 3.5mm output port to the 3.5mm mic in on my GH5. This gets me a mono scratch audio track on one channel and the timecode audio on the other track. I have 2 GH5s that I use this setup for and then I plug the last Deity TC-1 into the timecode port on my Tascam DR-701D which can record up to 6 audio tracks. I can monitor the audio off of the Tascam. The only thing that I am missing is 32-bit float, so I have been looking at replacing the Tascam with a Zoom F6 which would give me the 32-bit float and everything else would stay the same.
Seems like a great setup! And yes, 32bit float is great to have as a solo shooter. I’m curious: you have a TC-1 plugged into the D4 Mini. Do you get any bleeding from the timecode signal onto the other channel (your mono scratch track)?
@@RedFrameTech I have not noticed any bleed from the timecode signal. In Davinci I make both my channels to be the scratch audio and I don’t hear any timecode signal.
Thank you for taking time to make this video, its very helpful.
You’re most welcome! Thanks for watching 🙏
Lots to think about with this video.
Am I right in thinking the track E will record a left and right channel, I was thinking about splitting the input for a 2 mic set up
Yeah, there’s a lot of info in this one 😅
And you’re correct: the track e records a stereo (or double mono) track. So what you want to do would work fine.
Just remember that your wireless receiver probably puts out a 24bit signal
Brilliant. I have a GH6 as well, and im all sorted for the rig except for audio. The Float E looks really cool. What format are you recording video in just curious. ProRes?
Thanks! Hope this helps you sort your audio setup out.
I don’t shoot ProRes very often. At least, not with the GH6 (internal/ssd) because that’s limited to C4K/5.7K (which is 17:9) and 5.8K. I usually need regular 4K UHD. So I mainly shoot 4K All-I MOV and/or record ProRes to my Ninja V
Hi,
Thank you for recommending the MKE 600 for the G9. I recently received one this week.
Could you please share your preferred method for connecting the MKE 600 directly to the G9, such as the specific cable or wireless interface you recommend?
I'm considering a 1.5m cable for a talking head setup and would appreciate any insights or suggestions you might have.
Thank you!
It was the mic I used to record this video 🙂
My MKE600 came with a xlr to 3.5mm cable. If yours did too, you could just extend it with a regular xlr cable.
If you want to go wireless, you could do it with any wireless system that has a 3.5mm mic input using the above mentioned cable.
Hope that helps!
Is it possible to facilitate installation on the GH6 by recording to the internal memory card and freeing up the ports? I don’t quite understand why you need devices for time code when you shoot with one camera? How long does the battery last on the synchronizer?
Of course you can. You’re right: you don’t need timecode when using one camera. But for syncing the audio from the track e to the video, timecode makes it much easier. Especially in situations where you might start and stop recording a lot.
The battery of the track e far outlasts the GH6’s battery. So that’s not really a limitation
interesting, but after half of the video, I felt like 😵💫
great work😄
Yeah, lots of info in this one 😅 thanks for watching Uwe!
Well, RØDE Wireless PRO = sync and wireless in on small package.
I was expecting at least one comment about the røde wireless pro 😄 (for good reasons)
Problem with that system is that it’s not much more than a 2.4Ghz wireless system with 32bit float internal recording. It can’t put out a timecode signal, it doesn’t sync timecode to other devices, but more importantly: the timecode functionality has some serious issues afaik. The internal timecode doesn’t match up to the receiver. Which defeats the point of timecode
Interesting tutorial for small one-man-band setups. However I can't help feel that you're about to outgrow the prosumer camera form-factor and step up to a big-boy cinema camera for your business.😀
You might be right 😄 and I do use them from time to time. I just don’t own one.
But on the other hand: I still have no image quality complaints with the cameras I have., I like that I can strip everything down to a compact size and there’s some great lenses for the system.
Also, the money I’m not spending on more expensive camera bodies, I can invest in lighting and audio equipment.
But I can’t deny that I’m interested in cinema cameras.
No timecode port?
Just clap, lol.
Doesn’t work if one of the audio source is far away.
And if one or more camera is not recording continuously, syncing become a challenge