It’s a huge price to pay, but I’ll personally pay it to be able to stand a chance of winning in the air & avoiding Lissiles. I’m just a Heli guy at heart
I've not played with it too much, but I'm always excited to run one of these things with Creedance Clearwater Revival's Fortunate Son blaring in the background. I wish they made the mini guns extra lethal to compensate for the lack of front turret.
I’m always reliving that Apocalypse Now scene in my head 😅 Two mini guns is a weak compliment but I do know a lot of people complained about Gunship armaments. AP round Miniguns would have been so tasty, but we wouldn’t want Dice to pull a muscle working up something new!
It’s not a bad game at all, now we’ve reached Season 7. Such a shame they didn’t do one last big push for content (a few more maps and one more new, novel vehicle). Still the best FPS out there, by a mile. Keep smiling!
10:40 This! Most people fly this thing into the ground or killed after around 8 secs... So if you take the responsibility, don't take **** from your team, they won't do it better! Also: As a night bird pilot, will confirm, the flight to the ceiling is basically a free win for the condor, especially when you turn the cockpit away first. I usually shoot out the pilot first and this way, I can't really do a thing about that flying tank. Great vid once again!
I know right?! Everyone’s a critic but nobody wants to grab the stick & fly these things 😂 Good tip about turning the cockpit away, I’ll work that into my game. Anything for an edge over the NB 😎
You’re most welcome, I’m glad people find it useful. BF2042 is actually a good game now, and I’d struggle to think of a better FPS (though Space Marine 2 is a damn good third person shooter. If you’ve not checked it out, suggest you do!).
Glad to see you're continuing 2042 content! I adore the condor. It's in it's own class of vehicle. I do like the uh60 though. Would have been interesting if they put the Stealthhawk or Seahawk into the game or allow for customisation of the uh60 into those variants. The condor however makes it's point across when it comes to conveying that 2042 is a future battleground with future obstacles and maneuvers/ tactics for it's landscape/ arena of large-scale battle. As well as new threats. Both from the Condor itself and against it.
I love the concept of the Condor, and its modernisation from turboprop Osprey to jet engined variant for the game - but its inability to manoeuvre relative to the Hind puts it at such a disadvantage! I try to stay away from comments which might make me look arrogant but… if I’m in any kind of Heli, the Condor is going to get roasted. It’s just too easy to get above it & the flight transition is a death trap should it try to bail. It may be my failings but as nice an idea it is, for gameplay balance it needs to be as snappy as the Mi240 to be fair. I’d love to see some more work done on it just to level the playing field. Until then, I think I’ll be in the UH-60!
@timelessgamer_UK it needs a manned m240 in the cargo bay like it's turboprop counterpart derivative! More defenses during it's transition. Or even a proximity volley of emp grenades to disable surrounding enemy fire only while it is transitioning.
Funny hearing this since the condor is actually my favourite vehicle, but I do agree with most of the points you made. It definitely takes a lot more effort to do things a hind pilot would do easily, but that armor can come in clutch in the right situations. Definitely not for everyone, and definitely not the strongest, but still a very fun and cool vehicle
My problem is the lack of agility - we know how this game works for air to air mechanics, whoever gets above wins the fight. If you’ve got AV rockets, TOWs and a 30mm gunner in an Attack Heli blasting you or a 50mm on a Hind digging in, you’re in massive trouble. A UH-60 whilst only having mini guns can at least hold pace with the Hind and stay above it. It’s just my personal experience so of course it’s subject to bias (I’m relatively good and bad at things), but Condors just get wrecked. They have their moments sure and I’ve had a good few, but I’m a Heli guy
You’re a better Condor pilot than I am then - 9 out of 10 Hind vs Condor fights, whichever vehicle I’m in, end up with the Condor in flames. Perhaps the quicker transition will help me out!
@timelessgamer_UK The Condor buff was insane for me, cuz I feel faster than ever because of the buff. Also... The quicker transition will help you pull the anti-nightbird counter on the hind more consistently. Part of your problem is that when you are trying to cap objectives you don't circle around the points enough. I try to pull a slower version of Nightbird Death Circle when I'm capping. Sometimes add a wiggle to the circle I'm getting enough heat. Getting more experience with the jet will definitely help you with the condor. Hopefully, we can pick each other's brains if you fully come back to 2042. You might see me playing with Cabal and Dan once in while. Hopefully me writing this while tired didn't make it too incoherent. Cheers!
It makes perfect sense - I do struggle with the Condor and shied away from making any content on it for a long time. What’s this anti nightbird counter, what I was saying in this vid about flying up or something else? Got a clip? In terms of the circling my logic is to try and face the direction attacks are most likely coming from, so scanning the full 180 in front of me. I’ll try your way I know all too well from painful experience about the NB death circle 😅 I’m still playing BF, and recently discovered BFV. I tried floating a BF1 vid but it flopped harder than the first time I asked a girl out. Big fan of playing with Dan he’s a great guy. I’ll keep an eye out for you!
I completely agree except for it’s never too late - it’s a long way to 2026 and I’ll take any quality of life improvements I can get. The best time was two years ago and the second best time is now!
Love your channel too, been watching you for a while. Apologies my French is atrocious, only speak English and Mandarin 😅 I can’t figure out BF1, I just get hammered. You’re damn good at it!
@@timelessgamer_UK Oh thanks, I had no idea you watched my videos :D And don't worry, French is really hard to learn, if I was English, I would never learn it because why would I ^^' ?
Great comparision and explanation timeless! I think dice should give us way more weapon and vehciles from Portal. It takes no effort for them to implement them into the Maingame so just go for it!
Yes, would be good to think this strategically about matches, but no one drops off when doing these transport runs. No one seems to think how to win matches, players just concentrate on one or two objectives and stay there. I've been able to turn matches around on my own by simply take one objective behind the front line to create a two front battlefield. But I'm amazed at how many matches in which NO ONE does any of that. If I'm in a match and there's just one or two more squads doing the same, we always win, always.
We’re out there - players who do try and weave in good transport play. Back capping is everything in Conquest, and there’s few better ways to do it than an airlift in. I’ve been fortunate that for the most I’ve played with and against some pretty smart players. However you’re right - I’ve equally seen matches where I have wondered what’s going on…
Excellent video. I have a new appreciation for my pilots and what they are (or aren't) trying to accomplish. Also Condors are great for achieving those Repair tasks (we're there for you) in the Battle Passes.
Glad you enjoyed it - being a Pilot can be rough in this game, especially when you’re trying to actually PTFO. Repairs are always appreciated, it really makes the difference
I you ever get a chance to cover Flag play and Spawn system, that would be great. No sure that everyone understands how it functions. Especially new to the genre players getting taken out easy. I wish you more subs! This is a ton of great insight.
Thanks I really appreciate the support - perhaps one day the algorithm will shine down upon me 😂 Thanks for the suggestion, I’ll see what I can come up with!
You tried other games and where did it lead you? Straight back to me 😂 Great vid, I’m very glad to be out of the Condor too. Having the UH-60 is a welcome addition. Nice tip on the Nightbird evade, never thought of that!
Thanks! End of the day the UH-60 is a nerfed Mi240 but I would take that offer over the Condor. I hope Dice can give a little consideration to adding the 50mm back on or some kind of AP rounds for the Minigun - wouldn’t want some jet pilot sneaking up on me, now would we? 😊
You say you’re done, but you will always return to your dark master - _Battlefield 2042._ 😝 7:24 - that’s the _Top Gun_ move! 😂 Haha, always love the detail and info you put into your vids, Timeless! -Few- No one does it better! 😝😅
Just when I think I’m out, they pull me back in 😅 In my defence - Dice is pushing through a lot of changes for a game which is supposedly now in glide mode to retirement. I didn’t know they were going to do this!! Be yourself unless you can be Maverick. Always be Maverick.
First ;) I’m glad for the acceleration of flight mode transition but it would be nice to have a wee bit quicker of a “get up n go” upon switching to flight mode. Alas, we work with what we have. Looking forward to unlocking the UH-60 , it looks like a squirrelly little thing Silver lining: the UH-60 sounds *amazing*
Idk man, I appreciate the video but I never stop over objectives like that if enemy helo’s or jets are in the air. If they are I take the condor to go after the helo’s if anything. Then if there’s no jet or helo then I’ll stop over a point. Condor is great at killing attack helo’s especially if you have repairs. Even can kill jets if you ping it and chase it making it impossible for your gunners not to notice.
Fair enough and each to their own play style, but I view it as my role as the Transport pilot to get my guys onto the objective & help to hold. Very often that makes the difference on flipping it or not. Going head to head in the air against an Attack Heli? Better hope that pilot is inexperienced as if they’re not / switched on, Anti Vehicle rockets plus gunner will drain your bar in under 3 seconds plus their ability to get above you / out of gun range is excellent. What can I say, I’d only fight a heli if I had the absolute, clear advantage. As to Jets - can’t match their turning circle. A good Jet will on your tail in moments if they decided to afterburner loop behind the Condor. If you go VTOL and they have pods? Game over! I’ll stay a coward and live 😅
Hey man great to hear from you! Hope the UWS gang are all doing well? I’ve really been getting into BFV lately, such a great game. The UH-60 is such fun to fly, the sound effects on it are brilliant
Fair play and each to their own - I’m probably not compatible with the Condor & trying to use it too much like a Heli. If you know someone who you consider to be good who posts their games let me know, I’m always up for learning and more than once on this channel I’ve apologised for slandering a vehicle (looking at you, season 3 Attack Heli)
Hey man great to hear from you -- I like what I'm hearing so far, and as you know I'm not nearly as 'against' BF2042 as some others are. Gibraltar would be legit as a setting, I'm good with near Modern setting, I'm sad 128 is going but that's the will of the people -- I'm up for it. Where are you at? PS -- I view Delta Force as IP theft. They're not even trying to hide it!! Here's a little something for you from today, not listed -- was just screwing around :p th-cam.com/video/IT4EL5Ck4ZM/w-d-xo.html Catch you later!
@@timelessgamer_UK excited to see what they do.. I’m not against 128 unless they do it right with the maps soo im team 64 player count for now… taking a look now at the vid!
I was a super good condor pilot back in the early days, not so much for defense and offense, but for flying and stuff? Hell yeah! I even took out some jets and helis a few times, like once i flipped a hind over by vtol flying up under it while it was shooting me
I also remember, early in season 1, really wanting to get a stealth heli to try it out for the first time, but my dastardly teammates were in the attack slot! So i rammed into him and blew him up
I’m drawn to Objectives like a Moth to the Flame - I can’t help myself, I just need to hover over it shouting “mine” repeatedly! In flight mode I can cruise around but I have to say I don’t think we’ve ever caught a jet in a chase - only when they came after us / we were defending. I have to try an inverted VTOL tonight!
I have a clip, but I don’t have the nerve to show it 😂 Some guy in an Attack Heli was vexing our team and nobody would spawn on my Condor, so I went for the third flight mode - Cruise Missile 😅
Uh60 could use a bit of tuning right now I think. A bit more health and maybe more speed but I think having the health would help balance its lack of speed. I’d also love to see the gunners get a better view. As it stands it seems to not be able to see angles that the super hind gunners can.
Good point about the gunner view, I’ll need to check that out. If I had Dice’s ear, I’d say put AP mini guns on them & have something really novel. And yeah armour on par with the Super Hind would only be fair!
the accuracy of full size M134 actually shreds even in 300m. I'm shocked its not mentioned, its basically a sniper-accurate laser beam but won't help because dangerous stuff still overwhelms you before your blueberry gunner notice what does accuracy means. If you got 2 friends and you think staying still mid-air(which you have to) is cool, the vehicle could work in breakthough mode by turning the flight into a mobile sniping platform(kinda bad for your team tho). And 0 useful in conquest
I don’t think the accuracy of the minigun can compensate for the degree the pilot is going to have to throw the stick around to stay alive, with the exception of chewing up some campers you come across. The biggest issue here is the UH-60 has no play against armoured vehicles and is outgunned severely by the Hind. The attraction of the UH-60 is at least with these miniguns and the agility it has, there is a chance - just maybe - I can stay above a Hind which comes to challenge a high objective. Choice between a slow gunship or a fast helicopter? Give me the Heli every day!
UH-60 should've had 2040's style design, with remote control turrets. I'm fine with no explosive cannons or grenade launchers, but there seriously should be different options for the gunners. Like 12.7mm HMG turrets, thermals, AP guns, etc.
@@timelessgamer_UK True. UH-60 is pretty fun to play with, the miniguns are okay but very accurate (even bots can get kills with them), and the only AP guns we have is someone in the passenger seat using PKP-BP armor piercing ammo.
Yeah no T1 camo is really sad (with all the vault weapons) :( And I would have expected something exciting with the UH60 like grenade launchers for the gunners, but for example only 4 shots (medium reload) and a secondary fire 1 shot smoke grenade to cover dropping teammates and objectives. The sound is amazing, but otherwise it's just underwhelming to what we have and especially since you must choose between it and the flying fortresses. One mistake I see many people make with it (this early on at least), is to let only one side be the door gunner towards targets. You can face enemies front-on and both gunners overlap.
Good tip about the gun alignment, I should’ve caught that. You’re spot on that the UH-60 is pretty unimaginative, but I can’t stress enough how pleased I am to have a transport helicopter instead of the Condor. Hopefully Dice will listen to some of this feedback / review the message boards and make some QoL tweaks to boost its viability. It’s a start though!
Really glad you enjoyed it -- I do indeed have some guides (some more serious than others), please see below. However just note, I'm a firm believer that nobody can be taught via a YT vid how to actually fly, you need to experiment with that for yourself and if you did play in BF3 you've got the fundamentals down for sure! In any case, here's what I've got: Attack Helicopter (Season 7) th-cam.com/video/7Kad7S20Meg/w-d-xo.htmlsi=NFeoRYTXxh2Xa5MM Jet (Season 7) th-cam.com/video/ty-R7uFuVos/w-d-xo.htmlsi=IHcu8LiWGRPzeUon Mi240 Super Hind th-cam.com/video/8i8j1jQckvA/w-d-xo.htmlsi=_6yg8VJcWJO6D0RU Stealth Helicopter th-cam.com/video/7MMuawVKTVw/w-d-xo.htmlsi=bvdJEWgCbKVdIh8X Hope you find them useful, and best of luck! Let me know if you've got any Qs, I'll do my best to answer (or perhaps direct you to someone who has a better answer than I do). Thanks!
@@timelessgamer_UK i also agree with that but the videos can certainly help get a better understanding of the mindset! Thank you SOOO much for these links buddy!
I can use the Condor on 128 and some 64 maps, but I did notice just last night that on Renewal 64 the Condor has vanished for both sides in favour of the UH-60… I think this might be a permanent change. Still testing
I like condor more than hind and you are flying condor wrong way taking all hits in the cockpit instead of belly or back Xpgainedachieved is a yt channel with good condor gameplays
I’ll check the channel out, thanks for the tip. About the direction issue, if you turn your back to protect from sniper pings, you can’t see the Jets or Helis incoming. The Hind can do tight circles to manage this risk but big old chunky Condor can’t do it the same way, my blind spots are too long. I’ve been caught out way too many times. Just my take, but I fully accept I’m not a great Condor player. Really struggle with it.
Unfortunately, no amount of maneuverability can make up for the lack of a cannon/gl.
It’s a huge price to pay, but I’ll personally pay it to be able to stand a chance of winning in the air & avoiding Lissiles. I’m just a Heli guy at heart
I've not played with it too much, but I'm always excited to run one of these things with Creedance Clearwater Revival's Fortunate Son blaring in the background.
I wish they made the mini guns extra lethal to compensate for the lack of front turret.
I’m always reliving that Apocalypse Now scene in my head 😅
Two mini guns is a weak compliment but I do know a lot of people complained about Gunship armaments. AP round Miniguns would have been so tasty, but we wouldn’t want Dice to pull a muscle working up something new!
@@marzipandan767 I wish they did 20 or 25 per shot instead of 16.
@@timelessgamer_UK12.7mm Miniguns (GAU-19) that fire a little slower but deal more damage and can damage light vehicles
lovely video!! the sound of that heli is actually so sick absolutely love that
It’s fun and it’s damn useful - you can get in and out of the hot zones a way a Condor never ever could. A welcome addition to the Game, 100%
@@timelessgamer_UK thanks for the video mate!! appreciate your work
Agree, the sound really is cool!
Your enthusiasm is refreshing! Keep rolling, champ!
It’s not a bad game at all, now we’ve reached Season 7. Such a shame they didn’t do one last big push for content (a few more maps and one more new, novel vehicle). Still the best FPS out there, by a mile. Keep smiling!
10:40 This! Most people fly this thing into the ground or killed after around 8 secs... So if you take the responsibility, don't take **** from your team, they won't do it better!
Also: As a night bird pilot, will confirm, the flight to the ceiling is basically a free win for the condor, especially when you turn the cockpit away first. I usually shoot out the pilot first and this way, I can't really do a thing about that flying tank.
Great vid once again!
I know right?! Everyone’s a critic but nobody wants to grab the stick & fly these things 😂
Good tip about turning the cockpit away, I’ll work that into my game. Anything for an edge over the NB 😎
I've watched everyone of your videos and they've helped me sooo much. Sincerely,thank you!
You’re most welcome, I’m glad people find it useful. BF2042 is actually a good game now, and I’d struggle to think of a better FPS (though Space Marine 2 is a damn good third person shooter. If you’ve not checked it out, suggest you do!).
Glad to see you're continuing 2042 content! I adore the condor. It's in it's own class of vehicle. I do like the uh60 though. Would have been interesting if they put the Stealthhawk or Seahawk into the game or allow for customisation of the uh60 into those variants. The condor however makes it's point across when it comes to conveying that 2042 is a future battleground with future obstacles and maneuvers/ tactics for it's landscape/ arena of large-scale battle. As well as new threats. Both from the Condor itself and against it.
I love the concept of the Condor, and its modernisation from turboprop Osprey to jet engined variant for the game - but its inability to manoeuvre relative to the Hind puts it at such a disadvantage! I try to stay away from comments which might make me look arrogant but… if I’m in any kind of Heli, the Condor is going to get roasted. It’s just too easy to get above it & the flight transition is a death trap should it try to bail. It may be my failings but as nice an idea it is, for gameplay balance it needs to be as snappy as the Mi240 to be fair. I’d love to see some more work done on it just to level the playing field. Until then, I think I’ll be in the UH-60!
@timelessgamer_UK it needs a manned m240 in the cargo bay like it's turboprop counterpart derivative! More defenses during it's transition. Or even a proximity volley of emp grenades to disable surrounding enemy fire only while it is transitioning.
Funny hearing this since the condor is actually my favourite vehicle, but I do agree with most of the points you made. It definitely takes a lot more effort to do things a hind pilot would do easily, but that armor can come in clutch in the right situations. Definitely not for everyone, and definitely not the strongest, but still a very fun and cool vehicle
My problem is the lack of agility - we know how this game works for air to air mechanics, whoever gets above wins the fight. If you’ve got AV rockets, TOWs and a 30mm gunner in an Attack Heli blasting you or a 50mm on a Hind digging in, you’re in massive trouble. A UH-60 whilst only having mini guns can at least hold pace with the Hind and stay above it. It’s just my personal experience so of course it’s subject to bias (I’m relatively good and bad at things), but Condors just get wrecked. They have their moments sure and I’ve had a good few, but I’m a Heli guy
5:14 I beat hinds regularly; ya just gotta switch to flight mode, get some height on them, and keep below you there.
You’re a better Condor pilot than I am then - 9 out of 10 Hind vs Condor fights, whichever vehicle I’m in, end up with the Condor in flames. Perhaps the quicker transition will help me out!
@timelessgamer_UK The Condor buff was insane for me, cuz I feel faster than ever because of the buff.
Also... The quicker transition will help you pull the anti-nightbird counter on the hind more consistently.
Part of your problem is that when you are trying to cap objectives you don't circle around the points enough. I try to pull a slower version of Nightbird Death Circle when I'm capping. Sometimes add a wiggle to the circle I'm getting enough heat.
Getting more experience with the jet will definitely help you with the condor.
Hopefully, we can pick each other's brains if you fully come back to 2042. You might see me playing with Cabal and Dan once in while. Hopefully me writing this while tired didn't make it too incoherent.
Cheers!
It makes perfect sense - I do struggle with the Condor and shied away from making any content on it for a long time. What’s this anti nightbird counter, what I was saying in this vid about flying up or something else? Got a clip? In terms of the circling my logic is to try and face the direction attacks are most likely coming from, so scanning the full 180 in front of me. I’ll try your way I know all too well from painful experience about the NB death circle 😅
I’m still playing BF, and recently discovered BFV. I tried floating a BF1 vid but it flopped harder than the first time I asked a girl out. Big fan of playing with Dan he’s a great guy. I’ll keep an eye out for you!
Banger of a vid, really enjoyed seeing someone share my pain🤪
The Condor is marmite
Two years too late. Why do I feel like Dice has been holding on to this(and more) just to give us bread crumbs till the next game?
I completely agree except for it’s never too late - it’s a long way to 2026 and I’ll take any quality of life improvements I can get. The best time was two years ago and the second best time is now!
@timelessgamer_UK better than the fate of bfv
Always quality content over there :-)
Love your channel too, been watching you for a while. Apologies my French is atrocious, only speak English and Mandarin 😅
I can’t figure out BF1, I just get hammered. You’re damn good at it!
@@timelessgamer_UK Oh thanks, I had no idea you watched my videos :D
And don't worry, French is really hard to learn, if I was English, I would never learn it because why would I ^^' ?
Great comparision and explanation timeless! I think dice should give us way more weapon and vehciles from Portal. It takes no effort for them to implement them into the Maingame so just go for it!
Couldn’t agree more - open up the treasure chest and give us everything. Why not, what’s to lose?! And… wasn’t that the original point of Portal?!
Yes, would be good to think this strategically about matches, but no one drops off when doing these transport runs. No one seems to think how to win matches, players just concentrate on one or two objectives and stay there. I've been able to turn matches around on my own by simply take one objective behind the front line to create a two front battlefield. But I'm amazed at how many matches in which NO ONE does any of that. If I'm in a match and there's just one or two more squads doing the same, we always win, always.
We’re out there - players who do try and weave in good transport play. Back capping is everything in Conquest, and there’s few better ways to do it than an airlift in. I’ve been fortunate that for the most I’ve played with and against some pretty smart players. However you’re right - I’ve equally seen matches where I have wondered what’s going on…
I've seen players flying the Hind like a Nightird lol it is very manouverable! Great video mate, as always. I look forward to some BF V ones ;)
It’s cooking in the pot - if only I knew some pilots to help me get some epic air battle moments 🤓
@@timelessgamer_UK Chocks away 😉🛩
Excellent video. I have a new appreciation for my pilots and what they are (or aren't) trying to accomplish. Also Condors are great for achieving those Repair tasks (we're there for you) in the Battle Passes.
Glad you enjoyed it - being a Pilot can be rough in this game, especially when you’re trying to actually PTFO. Repairs are always appreciated, it really makes the difference
I you ever get a chance to cover Flag play and Spawn system, that would be great. No sure that everyone understands how it functions. Especially new to the genre players getting taken out easy.
I wish you more subs! This is a ton of great insight.
Thanks I really appreciate the support - perhaps one day the algorithm will shine down upon me 😂
Thanks for the suggestion, I’ll see what I can come up with!
You tried other games and where did it lead you? Straight back to me 😂
Great vid, I’m very glad to be out of the Condor too. Having the UH-60 is a welcome addition. Nice tip on the Nightbird evade, never thought of that!
Yeah well it caught my eye so here we are! Nothing wrong with a classic. Good Thanos quote, I deserved that 😅
Great vid as always! 🔥 very detail, thanks for the info, ive been waiting someone to do this analysis.
Thanks! End of the day the UH-60 is a nerfed Mi240 but I would take that offer over the Condor. I hope Dice can give a little consideration to adding the 50mm back on or some kind of AP rounds for the Minigun - wouldn’t want some jet pilot sneaking up on me, now would we? 😊
You say you’re done, but you will always return to your dark master - _Battlefield 2042._ 😝
7:24 - that’s the _Top Gun_ move! 😂
Haha, always love the detail and info you put into your vids, Timeless! -Few- No one does it better! 😝😅
Just when I think I’m out, they pull me back in 😅
In my defence - Dice is pushing through a lot of changes for a game which is supposedly now in glide mode to retirement. I didn’t know they were going to do this!!
Be yourself unless you can be Maverick. Always be Maverick.
First ;)
I’m glad for the acceleration of flight mode transition but it would be nice to have a wee bit quicker of a “get up n go” upon switching to flight mode. Alas, we work with what we have.
Looking forward to unlocking the UH-60 , it looks like a squirrelly little thing
Silver lining: the UH-60 sounds *amazing*
It’s great to have it available to the US side, I really am not a Condor fan!
Idk man, I appreciate the video but I never stop over objectives like that if enemy helo’s or jets are in the air. If they are I take the condor to go after the helo’s if anything. Then if there’s no jet or helo then I’ll stop over a point. Condor is great at killing attack helo’s especially if you have repairs. Even can kill jets if you ping it and chase it making it impossible for your gunners not to notice.
Fair enough and each to their own play style, but I view it as my role as the Transport pilot to get my guys onto the objective & help to hold. Very often that makes the difference on flipping it or not. Going head to head in the air against an Attack Heli? Better hope that pilot is inexperienced as if they’re not / switched on, Anti Vehicle rockets plus gunner will drain your bar in under 3 seconds plus their ability to get above you / out of gun range is excellent. What can I say, I’d only fight a heli if I had the absolute, clear advantage. As to Jets - can’t match their turning circle. A good Jet will on your tail in moments if they decided to afterburner loop behind the Condor. If you go VTOL and they have pods? Game over! I’ll stay a coward and live 😅
16:58 This is why we are flying it!
Finally, someone who thought what I thought! Thank you very much you wonderful person, wherever you are 😅
Always love your videos brother!! 🫡
Hey man great to hear from you! Hope the UWS gang are all doing well? I’ve really been getting into BFV lately, such a great game. The UH-60 is such fun to fly, the sound effects on it are brilliant
fantastic video!, looking forward to fly the new heli
Thanks for stopping by - it’s great fun to play Blackhawk Down 😅
I love the new feel of the condor. You have to use condor differently than hind. I will never use uh60 when I can use the other gunships
Fair play and each to their own - I’m probably not compatible with the Condor & trying to use it too much like a Heli. If you know someone who you consider to be good who posts their games let me know, I’m always up for learning and more than once on this channel I’ve apologised for slandering a vehicle (looking at you, season 3 Attack Heli)
awesome job buddy
Thanks, glad you enjoyed it!
Would you ever make a worst to best ranking series for each of the weapon categories in Battlefield 2042?
Do you mean infantry weapons or vehicle weapons? I’d be more inclined to do a vehicle based one as I’m. Of great at infantry play 😅
I think either would be great! I love your battlefield content
I’ll see if I can think of something intelligent to say! Thanks for the suggestion
Have to agree on the Condor vs UH-60
It’s where I’m at until someone can show me otherwise - always happy to learn!
How’d you feel about the recent news of the next battlefield? They mentioned more aircraft battles as well as ships 👀
Hey man great to hear from you -- I like what I'm hearing so far, and as you know I'm not nearly as 'against' BF2042 as some others are. Gibraltar would be legit as a setting, I'm good with near Modern setting, I'm sad 128 is going but that's the will of the people -- I'm up for it. Where are you at?
PS -- I view Delta Force as IP theft. They're not even trying to hide it!!
Here's a little something for you from today, not listed -- was just screwing around :p
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Catch you later!
@@timelessgamer_UK excited to see what they do.. I’m not against 128 unless they do it right with the maps soo im team 64 player count for now… taking a look now at the vid!
Condor always needed to be an air version of the
MAV, it felt like it needed more armour.
And a Relic Heavy Bolter on each side… yeah I saw your photo in Discord 😅
I was a super good condor pilot back in the early days, not so much for defense and offense, but for flying and stuff? Hell yeah! I even took out some jets and helis a few times, like once i flipped a hind over by vtol flying up under it while it was shooting me
I also remember, early in season 1, really wanting to get a stealth heli to try it out for the first time, but my dastardly teammates were in the attack slot! So i rammed into him and blew him up
I’m drawn to Objectives like a Moth to the Flame - I can’t help myself, I just need to hover over it shouting “mine” repeatedly! In flight mode I can cruise around but I have to say I don’t think we’ve ever caught a jet in a chase - only when they came after us / we were defending. I have to try an inverted VTOL tonight!
I have a clip, but I don’t have the nerve to show it 😂
Some guy in an Attack Heli was vexing our team and nobody would spawn on my Condor, so I went for the third flight mode - Cruise Missile 😅
@@timelessgamer_UK oh yeah i love objective play too, it was usually just dangerous for me, so id fly high up above it
Uh60 could use a bit of tuning right now I think. A bit more health and maybe more speed but I think having the health would help balance its lack of speed. I’d also love to see the gunners get a better view. As it stands it seems to not be able to see angles that the super hind gunners can.
Good point about the gunner view, I’ll need to check that out. If I had Dice’s ear, I’d say put AP mini guns on them & have something really novel. And yeah armour on par with the Super Hind would only be fair!
the accuracy of full size M134 actually shreds even in 300m. I'm shocked its not mentioned, its basically a sniper-accurate laser beam but won't help because dangerous stuff still overwhelms you before your blueberry gunner notice what does accuracy means.
If you got 2 friends and you think staying still mid-air(which you have to) is cool, the vehicle could work in breakthough mode by turning the flight into a mobile sniping platform(kinda bad for your team tho). And 0 useful in conquest
I don’t think the accuracy of the minigun can compensate for the degree the pilot is going to have to throw the stick around to stay alive, with the exception of chewing up some campers you come across. The biggest issue here is the UH-60 has no play against armoured vehicles and is outgunned severely by the Hind. The attraction of the UH-60 is at least with these miniguns and the agility it has, there is a chance - just maybe - I can stay above a Hind which comes to challenge a high objective. Choice between a slow gunship or a fast helicopter? Give me the Heli every day!
UH-60 should've had 2040's style design, with remote control turrets.
I'm fine with no explosive cannons or grenade launchers, but there seriously should be different options for the gunners.
Like 12.7mm HMG turrets, thermals, AP guns, etc.
AP round would’ve been amazing - with any luck, they’ll give us a few more options. I’m just pleased I can finally be a Heli pilot for the US side
@@timelessgamer_UK True. UH-60 is pretty fun to play with, the miniguns are okay but very accurate (even bots can get kills with them), and the only AP guns we have is someone in the passenger seat using PKP-BP armor piercing ammo.
Yeah no T1 camo is really sad (with all the vault weapons) :(
And I would have expected something exciting with the UH60 like grenade launchers for the gunners, but for example only 4 shots (medium reload) and a secondary fire 1 shot smoke grenade to cover dropping teammates and objectives.
The sound is amazing, but otherwise it's just underwhelming to what we have and especially since you must choose between it and the flying fortresses.
One mistake I see many people make with it (this early on at least), is to let only one side be the door gunner towards targets.
You can face enemies front-on and both gunners overlap.
Good tip about the gun alignment, I should’ve caught that. You’re spot on that the UH-60 is pretty unimaginative, but I can’t stress enough how pleased I am to have a transport helicopter instead of the Condor. Hopefully Dice will listen to some of this feedback / review the message boards and make some QoL tweaks to boost its viability. It’s a start though!
awesome video, im trying to learn to fly.. the last BF game i flew in was BF3. Do you have a guide or anything?
Really glad you enjoyed it -- I do indeed have some guides (some more serious than others), please see below. However just note, I'm a firm believer that nobody can be taught via a YT vid how to actually fly, you need to experiment with that for yourself and if you did play in BF3 you've got the fundamentals down for sure! In any case, here's what I've got:
Attack Helicopter (Season 7)
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Jet (Season 7)
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Mi240 Super Hind
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Stealth Helicopter
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Hope you find them useful, and best of luck! Let me know if you've got any Qs, I'll do my best to answer (or perhaps direct you to someone who has a better answer than I do).
Thanks!
@@timelessgamer_UK i also agree with that but the videos can certainly help get a better understanding of the mindset! Thank you SOOO much for these links buddy!
@@ShinTwoPointOh You're most welcome, have a good one
am i doing something wrong? i can only use the uh-60 ever since i've unlocked it, no playlist lets me use the other 2, only the uh-60
I can use the Condor on 128 and some 64 maps, but I did notice just last night that on Renewal 64 the Condor has vanished for both sides in favour of the UH-60… I think this might be a permanent change. Still testing
@@timelessgamer_UK sadge, playing 54 conquest all day, the only I could get it was the rocket one
真棒!
Tier 1 for the condor is my next unlock. Only 1000 to go but it’s taking forever, I’m on PS4 so it’s only available on a few maps and modes.
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Hang in there, the end is in sight! I’m not familiar with the PS4 version, how’s the player base?
I like condor more than hind and you are flying condor wrong way taking all hits in the cockpit instead of belly or back
Xpgainedachieved is a yt channel with good condor gameplays
I’ll check the channel out, thanks for the tip. About the direction issue, if you turn your back to protect from sniper pings, you can’t see the Jets or Helis incoming. The Hind can do tight circles to manage this risk but big old chunky Condor can’t do it the same way, my blind spots are too long. I’ve been caught out way too many times. Just my take, but I fully accept I’m not a great Condor player. Really struggle with it.
@@Eric-qx1kx I watched some of his videos and I kept condor alive most of matches in exposure and kaleidoscope