99% of golfers won’t spend the time learning how to putt with precision. Yes a fitting will help. But, if you don’t spend the time actually learning how to putt then nothing will help. Just my opinion. I tried dozens of putters. Loved and hated a few. My putting got better when I stuck with one and spent hours on the putting green creating a repeatable putting stroke. Once you have a repeatable putting stroke THEN a fitting will be truly worth the expense. Again, just my humble opinion. Oops. I wrote this before watching the entire video. They summed it up quite well at the end. Good job Gents!
True words (even if you wrote before watching). Like I said in some other video's comments I'm gaming a 15 or 20€ Mitsushiba that I bought about ten years ago to try if a mallet type would help (was having a shaky kind of feeling with a blade). It helped and even after trying some "better" mallets during years I didn't see any gain from them (excpet counter balance, but I modded my own putter with a super stroke type of grip and added some weight there...). With putter it's mostly about the feel after technique is stable, so changing putter has a big chance of messing your game. Unless you're ready to put in the work to get familiar with it.
Biggest change for me was going to a significantly thicker grip. My Scotty Golo 5 had a traditional pistol grip on it and just wasnt getting on with it very well. Swapped in a Super Stroke and the results were immediate
Jack Nicklaus said the difference between a good putter and a bad putter, is the good putter keeps his head still. Tiger Woods said having the ball directly underneath your left eye, for a right handed golfer, is the optimal position. Brad Faxon said the key is to have a flowing stroke, same distance/speed back through, using length of stroke to control distance. Ben Crenshaw said he holds the putter so lightly it almost falls from his hands. Steve Stricker does all of the above. Green reading ability, along with proper technique, is what makes you a good putter, because then you start believing you will hole putts.
I putt with a $100 Wilson Infinite L putter and am by far the best putter in my group. They all game Scotty's. To me, it's more about grooving your putter stroke. Good putters can putt with just about any style putter IMO. Played with a guy for the 1st time last week who just bought a new PIng. He wouldn't stop bragging about it. Laughed at my Wilson on the 1st green saying it looked ancient... By the end of the round, he wanted to try a few putts with it.
Have the the L putter myself. Bought it for €60 from a 2nd hand site. In great condition. Am finding it great to use, especially for the shorter putts.
Just picked up a Rife 2 bar mallet putter. Easily the most comfortable putter to make a stroke with that I've ever played. Helps that the first putt ever made during a round with it was a birdie.
I use a Bettinardi SS28 slot back. I love the FIT face milling and the way it frames the ball. This is the only putter that I've had supreme confidence with. Don't see changing any time soon.
I use a Rife Switchback Two model putter which works well. It has sets of removable heel and toe weights to adjust for green speeds. That way I don't have to make major adjustments if I am playing a course with very fast or very slow greens. I just change the weights on the practice green to see which ones work the best and then make only very minor adjustments to my stroke. I put a stiff graphite shaft in it so it is 37 inches. I can stand up straighter which is more comfortable and makes my stroke more consistent.
Im gaming a heavily modified taylormade tp juno. I replaced the insert with a beautiful piece of wenge wood. The feel is exceptional but also offers feedback. 2.5 gram weight in the heel and 10 gram weight in the toe. Golf pride pro only red star pistol grip. I also shave the bevel on top of the heel down to make it lose a little heel weight and look better in my opinon. Putting is art but a big help for me was getting my putter shaft in perfect line with my fore arms at address. Since then im making more putts and nearly never missing short ones.
I may be using the wrong putter but I have been putting with it for 11 years. What wins out? Familiarity or fit? For me practice makes perfect, use what you like and learn to use it well.
I have gone through blades, double wides, half mallet, mallet. None of have aided in improving my putting BUT I then got told by a pro in my clubhouse who saw me putting on the practice green outside the clubhouse to try his putter which was a centre shafted 40g weighted head. Took some practice strokes because of how heavy it felt then made some putts and I've managed to consistently putt the ball if not in then within tap in range so I think I'll be looking for a centre shafted putter
I went with a mid-mallet after using a blade and a mallet. Milled face, soft feel. Probably not the most sought after putters, but has easily been the best for me. Mid toe hang putter.
OK ... question for Chris. How about centre shaft putters? I think I would prefer a centre shafted putter because I think that would give me more consistency with finding the centre of the club. However, I simply can't find a centre shafted putter even though I do see some, not many, pro golfers using them. Do you have any opinion about whether centre shafts give any more consistency of strike?
I agree I bought a used Odyssey dual force 554 blade with the black insert off a buddy for $50. That was about 20 years ago and it’s still in the bag today. On my 3rd grip and 3rd headcover for it but I just love the look and I’m very confident with it. By far my favourite club in the bag! ⛳️
I tried allot of putters and then I bought the Axis1 Rose Black putter, cut it down to 33.5 inches and added 10 grams of weight to the head. I have never putted better, not just lining it up but speed control. It is in the bag to stay.
Started with a Hippo HD6 mallet, my putting sucked. Now got a Maxfli TSi blade and putting has improved tremendously. Gone from shooting 64+ on my local 9 holes down to 48.
I tried to use a mallet putter, but I just couldn't do it. I ended up getting rid of my odyssey o works #7 putter and bought a Tommy Armour Impact 1. It's a cheaper putter, but performed the best for me which is all that matters.
I got the Costco putter when it was on sale for $99, then bought the weights separate, and it out performs my old one by a mile. I have not added the shaft weight yet as I've seen some reviews where it's hard to get back out but would like to see if the handle is weighted would that make a difference on longer putts.
You need to test them on a real outside green and not on a mat in the shop - and try over a few sessions if you can (buy from your club pro?...... ). Really important to test a range of distances and breaks - I have a Newport that I love the concept of, but over 3 footers I can get a bit wavy with it. Was convinced that a toe hang spider would be great for me but over 2 testing sessions I just could not get line or pace. Ended up with a cleveland elevado which is almost automatic inside 3 ft but still have to work on pace from distance.
How about a comparison with low or no torque putters (LAB, Axis1, etc.). I was fitted into an Axis1 and chose the Tour-B, which suits my eye (more blade like - at least as much as it can be) and cuts down on glare. Perhaps I just needed a change of putters (I have always chosen/ felt more comfortable with more Anser style putters and thus, with toe-hang), but I am putting much better this summer, so I would just urge that golfers keep an open mind to all types ;-)
The biggest problem I have is alignment when I am standing over the ball. It doesn't look like it is pointed in the same direction as I lined the ball up. I feel like this affects my swing.
Work out your dominant eye. And then be aware of keeping it inline when putting. Mines the right so I twist my head and look down the line and things look straight.
@@djones1304 I will try that. I'm left handed and left eye dominant. So I know that affects things. I've considered putting right handed to see if that helps but I have just tried to trust my line and putt along that.
I have the same issue due to astigmatism of the eyes. So… triple track decal on my spider putter and matching triple line on the ball . Set it and trust it.
One of the biggest things is how does it feel for you? If your not comfy with it then you won’t have confidence in it. The only putter I ever tried with an insert just felt dead, and immediately I was thinking not for me so I putt with a metal faced blade style. Ultimately technique will determine your success, just like buying new clubs they will not correct a faulty swing. I find the closer I get to the hole on approach shots less putts required, who would have thought it?
Hi Chris, wondered what you would recommend for a out to in slice putting stroke? So confusing some vids I seen and everyone has said random things comparing putter neck types
Great vid again James - enjoy your work. You should have a review/look at Sacks Parente putters. They amazing and are a game changer in the putter market. Love your work mate
I bought the Scotty Cameron model used by Tiger and tried to go with a mallet several years latere, but gave it to a friend and went back to the SC. Refuse to switch any misses is just me, not the club!
Never again a blade putter. A little mishit, literally turns my blade. On top of that the "aim line" is way too short. Half mallet is best. Still some feel, but it solves the problems mentioned.
The thing most people get wrong when it comes to the putter is the length of the shaft. The wrong length changes your set up over the ball. That is more important than anything else, and most people have it wrong because they buy putters off the rack in whatever length the manufacturer sells. When you drop the ball to check your set up, you should drop it from between your eyes and the ball should fall right on top of the ball on the ground. If it does not touch the ball on the ground it means your eyes are not over the ball which is where they should be. Research the Todd Sones putter fitting system and you might be surprised to learn the length of putter you should be using.
In your video you failed to mention center shafted putters. I use a center shafted putter because I a left eye dominate and have proven to myself that allows me to line up my putts .
So I went in to the local shop to look at putters. I'm not bland loyal and was surprised on what I liked. I'm not sure if you ever reviewed the SIK putters but they feel amazing. Keep up the great content!
Learn to putt. Do drills to make sure that your ball starts on the intended line, learn to read the green, practice speed control so the ball finishes near the hole OR just buy another putter.
L.A.B putters are undeniably the BEST. Remote custom fit for a DF 2.1 63° lie angle, 32 inches. These are lie angle balanced totally different concept there is no manipulation needed to square the head at impact
Disappointing that you haven’t mentioned the hosel in this video. Plumbers neck/heel shafted/double bend are suited to different strokes. Or at least that’s what PXG’s website tells me
@@williequek6020 not talking about face balance, they were talking as if face balance is dependent upon putter models, not the spec of the hosel. As if they’re talking about a topic they’re not too fully clued up on, feel like it could have been a better discusssion taking this into account
People whine about paying £300 for a putter theyll use 28+ times a round, but happily pay £500 for a driver they might hit 10 times a round. If you dont buy what suits your game best, whether thats a £10 Donnay or a £300 quid Scotty you dont deserve to improve.
Logically, the only person who would improve his putting by buying another putter, is someone who has never holed a put. If you have holed a putts before and are now struggling, it's technique that is the issue, so get a lesson
Ah yes, the old "putter must have arc" presupposition... WRONG Last time I looked the putter did what my hands do... my hands do NOT prescribe an arc when I putt. My hands go straight back and straight through...
99% of golfers won’t spend the time learning how to putt with precision. Yes a fitting will help. But, if you don’t spend the time actually learning how to putt then nothing will help. Just my opinion. I tried dozens of putters. Loved and hated a few. My putting got better when I stuck with one and spent hours on the putting green creating a repeatable putting stroke. Once you have a repeatable putting stroke THEN a fitting will be truly worth the expense. Again, just my humble opinion.
Oops. I wrote this before watching the entire video. They summed it up quite well at the end. Good job Gents!
True words (even if you wrote before watching). Like I said in some other video's comments I'm gaming a 15 or 20€ Mitsushiba that I bought about ten years ago to try if a mallet type would help (was having a shaky kind of feeling with a blade). It helped and even after trying some "better" mallets during years I didn't see any gain from them (excpet counter balance, but I modded my own putter with a super stroke type of grip and added some weight there...). With putter it's mostly about the feel after technique is stable, so changing putter has a big chance of messing your game. Unless you're ready to put in the work to get familiar with it.
Biggest change for me was going to a significantly thicker grip. My Scotty Golo 5 had a traditional pistol grip on it and just wasnt getting on with it very well. Swapped in a Super Stroke and the results were immediate
I have been using an original odyssey 2 ball putter for 16 or 17 years, . For myself the best putter.
Jack Nicklaus said the difference between a good putter and a bad putter, is the good putter keeps his head still.
Tiger Woods said having the ball directly underneath your left eye, for a right handed golfer, is the optimal position.
Brad Faxon said the key is to have a flowing stroke, same distance/speed back through, using length of stroke to control distance.
Ben Crenshaw said he holds the putter so lightly it almost falls from his hands.
Steve Stricker does all of the above.
Green reading ability, along with proper technique, is what makes you a good putter, because then you start believing you will hole putts.
I putt with a $100 Wilson Infinite L putter and am by far the best putter in my group. They all game Scotty's. To me, it's more about grooving your putter stroke. Good putters can putt with just about any style putter IMO. Played with a guy for the 1st time last week who just bought a new PIng. He wouldn't stop bragging about it. Laughed at my Wilson on the 1st green saying it looked ancient... By the end of the round, he wanted to try a few putts with it.
Have the the L putter myself. Bought it for €60 from a 2nd hand site. In great condition. Am finding it great to use, especially for the shorter putts.
I love it. And agree 100%. I think the most important thing with a putter is that you enjoy putting with it. Well, then the rest follows...
Just picked up a Rife 2 bar mallet putter. Easily the most comfortable putter to make a stroke with that I've ever played. Helps that the first putt ever made during a round with it was a birdie.
I use a Bettinardi SS28 slot back. I love the FIT face milling and the way it frames the ball. This is the only putter that I've had supreme confidence with. Don't see changing any time soon.
I use a Rife Switchback Two model putter which works well. It has sets of removable heel and toe weights to adjust for green speeds. That way I don't have to make major adjustments if I am playing a course with very fast or very slow greens. I just change the weights on the practice green to see which ones work the best and then make only very minor adjustments to my stroke. I put a stiff graphite shaft in it so it is 37 inches. I can stand up straighter which is more comfortable and makes my stroke more consistent.
Im gaming a heavily modified taylormade tp juno. I replaced the insert with a beautiful piece of wenge wood. The feel is exceptional but also offers feedback. 2.5 gram weight in the heel and 10 gram weight in the toe. Golf pride pro only red star pistol grip. I also shave the bevel on top of the heel down to make it lose a little heel weight and look better in my opinon.
Putting is art but a big help for me was getting my putter shaft in perfect line with my fore arms at address. Since then im making more putts and nearly never missing short ones.
This guy putts.
I'm very precise with my putting. I can hit the left and right lip of the cup.
I may be using the wrong putter but I have been putting with it for 11 years. What wins out? Familiarity or fit?
For me practice makes perfect, use what you like and learn to use it well.
If you putt with very little arc (straight back & straight through) try putting with a center-shafted putter.
I have gone through blades, double wides, half mallet, mallet. None of have aided in improving my putting BUT I then got told by a pro in my clubhouse who saw me putting on the practice green outside the clubhouse to try his putter which was a centre shafted 40g weighted head. Took some practice strokes because of how heavy it felt then made some putts and I've managed to consistently putt the ball if not in then within tap in range so I think I'll be looking for a centre shafted putter
I went with a mid-mallet after using a blade and a mallet. Milled face, soft feel. Probably not the most sought after putters, but has easily been the best for me. Mid toe hang putter.
I'm looking for the same thing. Which one did you go with.
OK ... question for Chris. How about centre shaft putters? I think I would prefer a centre shafted putter because I think that would give me more consistency with finding the centre of the club. However, I simply can't find a centre shafted putter even though I do see some, not many, pro golfers using them. Do you have any opinion about whether centre shafts give any more consistency of strike?
I've had the same putter for many years it's the Odyssey black series 2 ball blade and I would never change it.
I agree I bought a used Odyssey dual force 554 blade with the black insert off a buddy for $50. That was about 20 years ago and it’s still in the bag today. On my 3rd grip and 3rd headcover for it but I just love the look and I’m very confident with it. By far my favourite club in the bag! ⛳️
I tried allot of putters and then I bought the Axis1 Rose Black putter, cut it down to 33.5 inches and added 10 grams of weight to the head. I have never putted better, not just lining it up but speed control. It is in the bag to stay.
I don't understand guys who only think of scotty or ping putters. There are so many out there. Better tech and better value
I like putter that is best of both designs - Callaway 2-Ball Blade. Added decal and became Triple Track 2-Ball Blade!
Started with a Hippo HD6 mallet, my putting sucked. Now got a Maxfli TSi blade and putting has improved tremendously. Gone from shooting 64+ on my local 9 holes down to 48.
I tried to use a mallet putter, but I just couldn't do it. I ended up getting rid of my odyssey o works #7 putter and bought a Tommy Armour Impact 1. It's a cheaper putter, but performed the best for me which is all that matters.
Did you ditch it because you lost "feel"? or aim?
Awesome explanation on putters guy’s
I got the Costco putter when it was on sale for $99, then bought the weights separate, and it out performs my old one by a mile. I have not added the shaft weight yet as I've seen some reviews where it's hard to get back out but would like to see if the handle is weighted would that make a difference on longer putts.
You need to test them on a real outside green and not on a mat in the shop - and try over a few sessions if you can (buy from your club pro?...... ). Really important to test a range of distances and breaks - I have a Newport that I love the concept of, but over 3 footers I can get a bit wavy with it. Was convinced that a toe hang spider would be great for me but over 2 testing sessions I just could not get line or pace. Ended up with a cleveland elevado which is almost automatic inside 3 ft but still have to work on pace from distance.
I just bought a old 35 in Zebra putter and I have made more putts with it than any other putter I have owned.
How about a comparison with low or no torque putters (LAB, Axis1, etc.). I was fitted into an Axis1 and chose the Tour-B, which suits my eye (more blade like - at least as much as it can be) and cuts down on glare. Perhaps I just needed a change of putters (I have always chosen/ felt more comfortable with more Anser style putters and thus, with toe-hang), but I am putting much better this summer, so I would just urge that golfers keep an open mind to all types ;-)
The biggest problem I have is alignment when I am standing over the ball. It doesn't look like it is pointed in the same direction as I lined the ball up. I feel like this affects my swing.
I would consider a cleveland 2135 putter could really go a long way to helping with that.
Work out your dominant eye. And then be aware of keeping it inline when putting. Mines the right so I twist my head and look down the line and things look straight.
@@djones1304 I will try that. I'm left handed and left eye dominant. So I know that affects things. I've considered putting right handed to see if that helps but I have just tried to trust my line and putt along that.
I have the same issue due to astigmatism of the eyes. So… triple track decal on my spider putter and matching triple line on the ball . Set it and trust it.
One of the biggest things is how does it feel for you? If your not comfy with it then you won’t have confidence in it. The only putter I ever tried with an insert just felt dead, and immediately I was thinking not for me so I putt with a metal faced blade style.
Ultimately technique will determine your success, just like buying new clubs they will not correct a faulty swing.
I find the closer I get to the hole on approach shots less putts required, who would have thought it?
Hi Chris, wondered what you would recommend for a out to in slice putting stroke? So confusing some vids I seen and everyone has said random things comparing putter neck types
Great vid again James - enjoy your work. You should have a review/look at Sacks Parente putters. They amazing and are a game changer in the putter market. Love your work mate
I bought the Scotty Cameron model used by Tiger and tried to go with a mallet several years latere, but gave it to a friend and went back to the SC. Refuse to switch any misses is just me, not the club!
Never again a blade putter. A little mishit, literally turns my blade. On top of that the "aim line" is way too short. Half mallet is best. Still some feel, but it solves the problems mentioned.
The thing most people get wrong when it comes to the putter is the length of the shaft. The wrong length changes your set up over the ball. That is more important than anything else, and most people have it wrong because they buy putters off the rack in whatever length the manufacturer sells. When you drop the ball to check your set up, you should drop it from between your eyes and the ball should fall right on top of the ball on the ground. If it does not touch the ball on the ground it means your eyes are not over the ball which is where they should be. Research the Todd Sones putter fitting system and you might be surprised to learn the length of putter you should be using.
Lot of things I never knew there .
Thanks very usefull 👍
Great information.
In your video you failed to mention center shafted putters. I use a center shafted putter because I a left eye dominate and have proven to myself that allows me to line up my putts .
Any idea where a leftie can get a decent range of putters to try? Most places have an odd one or none at all.
I’m convinced that the best putter I could use is the Takomo 101 irons… any chance you’ll do another giveaway of those?
Great info nicely done guys
it depends on which racket you get and how you practice with it. 2 weeks with the same bat to catch Putin
My SC is supposed to be a 3.5 degrees!
Iv still got the Wilson tpa putter old school lol
How do I get a club fitting if I putt one-handed and where can I go here in the U.S.?
Phantom X 8.5
Lessons all the way lads
So I went in to the local shop to look at putters. I'm not bland loyal and was surprised on what I liked. I'm not sure if you ever reviewed the SIK putters but they feel amazing. Keep up the great content!
Does the size of grib matter? After a few beers the other night I brought a jumbo size thinking it might help. Did I have one to many????🍺🏌
A bigger grip will help to quiet the hands In the stroke and help to eliminate the wrists turning in the stroke
I still use the putter I stole from the local mini golf and I'm the best putter I know.
Learn to putt. Do drills to make sure that your ball starts on the intended line, learn to read the green, practice speed control so the ball finishes near the hole OR just buy another putter.
Interesting video. I’m trying a LAB GOLF. UGLY AS SIN BUT…
I went to a odyssey white hot og number 1 putter this year so I’m hoping to have some success with it with practice and the right drills to work on
Hey James
if you're missing putts to the left...🤔then aim to the right!
L.A.B putters are undeniably the BEST. Remote custom fit for a DF 2.1 63° lie angle, 32 inches. These are lie angle balanced totally different concept there is no manipulation needed to square the head at impact
Bettinardi...
Link to on line lessons? Skillet?
Disappointing that you haven’t mentioned the hosel in this video. Plumbers neck/heel shafted/double bend are suited to different strokes. Or at least that’s what PXG’s website tells me
The hosel is what affects the toe hang/face balance
@@williequek6020 not talking about face balance, they were talking as if face balance is dependent upon putter models, not the spec of the hosel. As if they’re talking about a topic they’re not too fully clued up on, feel like it could have been a better discusssion taking this into account
Have you got a Scotty?
Does it make you feel special?
Job done
#t22 #Newport #Newport2
Ha ha
People whine about paying £300 for a putter theyll use 28+ times a round, but happily pay £500 for a driver they might hit 10 times a round.
If you dont buy what suits your game best, whether thats a £10 Donnay or a £300 quid Scotty you dont deserve to improve.
Missing left? Make sure you're not looking up to see the putt as you hit it.
Says the armchair pro ;-)
You’ll never guess what I use? Ok, yes, you probably have guessed, Ping Zing (Anser style)
Logically, the only person who would improve his putting by buying another putter, is someone who has never holed a put. If you have holed a putts before and are now struggling, it's technique that is the issue, so get a lesson
Did you married Laura yet
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Ah yes, the old "putter must have arc" presupposition... WRONG
Last time I looked the putter did what my hands do... my hands do NOT prescribe an arc when I putt. My hands go straight back and straight through...
ive had a tommy armour silver scot for over 30 years.. if you square the clubface to the line it goes in.. stop being wankers