My family has been in the automotive business since before me. We didn’t normally buy anything exotic. We did bring clients to specialty auctions and buy some nice cars. I was accompanying a client to a specialty auction in Orlando Florida, someone prevented my father from being there so this was the first time I was representing the business directly without guidance. The client was a complete novice at cars. In typical fashion he was trying to play know it all. It was his money after all. He was drooling over a Porsche 928 S4. I discovered that the car had been repaired. I was only 19 at the time and no one wanted to listen to me except my father. I began working with my father as soon as I could hold a screwdriver. I’ve been painting and buffing cars since I was 10-12 years old. I insisted that the car had been painted at the very least and put on paper that we would represent the buyer but in know way we’re responsible for the condition of the vehicle. Essentially I was smart enough to record that he was purchasing the car against our advice and that we would not be responsible for anything other than representing the buyer. The car was purchased way over book value even if my prediction of bodywork was incorrect. We began inspecting the vehicle and my dad said he had never been so proud of me. ( only time in history that he spoke these words to me) The car was a nightmare. They spent as much time concealing the damage and repair as actually repairing the car. The car wouldn’t accelerate properly due to the monitoring system in the transmission. You theoretically can’t spin the tires on an S4. There’s monitoring software that adjusts the transmission a million times a second or something that’s a launch control system. Well that was messed up along with many other things. I was soo deflated at first because here was my chance to represent the company as an adult and it wasn’t necessarily a good thing on the surface. You know at 19 you only know how to swing for the fence or to focus on hitting a home run. I’m 53 now and look at the situation differently than I did then. I did hit a home run for dad and the company- if I hadn’t written that goofy document that guy would have sued and said I recommended that car to him- he tried to bully me based on my age. Mom didn’t raise a fool.
Someone else’s money for his passion. Remember the pretty yellow Diablo he didn’t want the buyer to drive so he talked his investors to buy it back because it was a pretty colour? He won’t be around in 5 years, his investors want a profit not someone using their money for his hobby.
@@briankearn6991 want to put some money on that? His business is growing and he’s building a name for himself and Currated as the guy with some of the nicest examples in the country…..but because he wanted to keep one car you’ve determined that he isn’t keeping his investors happy and will fail 👌🏼
I agree. I didn't care for him initially. He came across as a less than desirable associate. Now, it seems he has grown and matured. Thereby, making a much better impression.
Agreed. Takes a real man to admit his mistakes, more so in front of millions of people. He's a car guy through and through, maybe not your kinda car guy or cars, but his passion can't be denied
I love how Temerian takes us along the emotional rollercoaster of these complex and unique deals through his story telling style! Thanx once again John and not to be over looked, Ed and his Vinwiki CarStories!!!!!
This is what I love about car collections, the wildest cars can pop up out of nowhere, I was driving by a neighborhood close to mine and saw (could only make out the rear in the almost never opened garage) what appeared to be a 67 gt350 and my jaw dropped. You travel around small towns especially and you can find some of the wildest cars you never knew existed, or you knew they existed but had never seen one before
I genuinely do believe that John is passionate about cars and loves them very much. However, I can't get past the fact that he is a car salesman. I just can't look at his smile and hear his enthusiasm without wondering whether any of it is genuine.
Patience and way to handle rejection is THE thing to be learned from John.. Commending to see how John is describing deal which fell through with such composed demeanor
John was able to find partners with enough liquid to buy stuff like this but he’s never been investigated for money laundering that’s the most impressive part about this lol
Very safe to say the owner of the collection made out much better in the long run. Guarantee he had someone tell him to back out because the potential of values sky rocketing and the owner was all for sitting on the collection as he clearly wasn't hurting for money lol.
Still a dick move after shaking on it. Word spreads that you're not a serious business partner and your reputation could suffer. Dude obviously has a shit ton of money though so probably isn't bothered.
Fr, he also said he waited a few days to send him the final contract…that’s more then enough time for somebody to convince him to back out. Strike while the irons hot
Smart move from the collector: put the car on open market and you get the best price. Give all in to 1 dealer is way too primitive and loosing a lot of money
Who knows if he actually got a better deal or not when you factor in auction fees, also, auctions are usually not the best for getting the most value out of anything. You are just hoping the right people there on the right day in the right mood.
@@silhouette300yeah but like the other person said the auction fees can be costly, more than 5% typically and as a high as 10% so unless the cars gained more than 10% in value the seller likely didn’t make more money plus you’d have to factor in the cost of ownership for another 5 years. That’s a lot of maintenance on 30+ cars and if it was neglected that would drop the price as well and who knows how much insurance coverage was over that period of time. There are a ton of factors at play with such a collection, I’m guessing any money he made over Johns offer was used up on the costs of keeping them another 5 years.
I feel John on the disappointment of this one. Back when I sold Fords I had a very miniature version of something like this where I spent hours and hours with the guy, thought we had a deal, and then he uncerimoniously backed out. That was when I decided I was done selling normie cars.
The Lexus Lfa Nurburg is the one car I would keep if selling that collection. Im 25 and growing up it was, and is my favorite car of all time. The looks, performance, sound, and toyota/lexus heritage is everything I love when it comes to vehicles.
Paying 5% over value on purchase could have eaten into your potential profits making some cars a loss. $25,000 is the price of the lessons learned and all part of becoming a master craftsman.
100% agree, wastes his time over the span of months and tons of money on travel. While he did all the work of valuing them to the point they say they have a deal then backs out in the most chicken shit kind of way.
This sounds alot like the ‘collection’ of stolen cars that Clay Thom from the bankrupt CNC motors ‘sold’ on consignment and didn’t pay any of the owners.
I highly doubt that John is your typical car salesman with all his passion. Selling cars is just a function he has to undertake to indulge his passion.
Man, that just describes the life of sales to a T. Whatever it is you're selling, one minute your King Kong, the next you're a turd. Glad at all workout.
I dont think there is any coincidence that Temerian keeps getting dropped from deals, from the Miura that just had the deposit returned out of the blue, to this and that and the next thing. When you look at his past, and then look at the type of person that is actually in a position to own, and then sell, million dollar cars, it's no shock that they would find out his shady reputation and proceed to shut down and avoid any further dealings with him.
The owner of the vehicles broke Mazal, you never break Mazal. He shook on it, that’s how men did deals in the past, your word and your handshake WAS your bond. Means nothing anymore in todays world 🤦♂️
Hi Ed. @vinwiki Why all your guests are great with great stories, it would be nice to begin bringing new people and storytellers to your shows. It’s getting repetitive with the same people over and over again. Just a constructive criticism Regards Alec Cartio
Dude was playing you like a fiddle, you have been owned, sir. And then made to publicly acknowledge this. Repent the kingdom of the Lord is near Jesus Christ is Lordman cannot serve both God and mammon ($) he will love one and hate the other. A kingdom divided against itself cannot stand. Riches cannot bring eternity
My family has been in the automotive business since before me. We didn’t normally buy anything exotic. We did bring clients to specialty auctions and buy some nice cars. I was accompanying a client to a specialty auction in Orlando Florida, someone prevented my father from being there so this was the first time I was representing the business directly without guidance. The client was a complete novice at cars. In typical fashion he was trying to play know it all. It was his money after all. He was drooling over a Porsche 928 S4. I discovered that the car had been repaired. I was only 19 at the time and no one wanted to listen to me except my father. I began working with my father as soon as I could hold a screwdriver. I’ve been painting and buffing cars since I was 10-12 years old. I insisted that the car had been painted at the very least and put on paper that we would represent the buyer but in know way we’re responsible for the condition of the vehicle. Essentially I was smart enough to record that he was purchasing the car against our advice and that we would not be responsible for anything other than representing the buyer.
The car was purchased way over book value even if my prediction of bodywork was incorrect.
We began inspecting the vehicle and my dad said he had never been so proud of me. ( only time in history that he spoke these words to me)
The car was a nightmare. They spent as much time concealing the damage and repair as actually repairing the car. The car wouldn’t accelerate properly due to the monitoring system in the transmission. You theoretically can’t spin the tires on an S4. There’s monitoring software that adjusts the transmission a million times a second or something that’s a launch control system. Well that was messed up along with many other things.
I was soo deflated at first because here was my chance to represent the company as an adult and it wasn’t necessarily a good thing on the surface. You know at 19 you only know how to swing for the fence or to focus on hitting a home run.
I’m 53 now and look at the situation differently than I did then. I did hit a home run for dad and the company- if I hadn’t written that goofy document that guy would have sued and said I recommended that car to him- he tried to bully me based on my age. Mom didn’t raise a fool.
Cool story! At 19 that must have been nerve wrecking for you 😮
John temerian has grown on me his passion for the cars has pushed me past my first impressions of him.
Someone else’s money for his passion.
Remember the pretty yellow Diablo he didn’t want the buyer to drive so he talked his investors to buy it back because it was a pretty colour?
He won’t be around in 5 years, his investors want a profit not someone using their money for his hobby.
@@briankearn6991 want to put some money on that? His business is growing and he’s building a name for himself and Currated as the guy with some of the nicest examples in the country…..but because he wanted to keep one car you’ve determined that he isn’t keeping his investors happy and will fail 👌🏼
I agree. I didn't care for him initially. He came across as a less than desirable associate. Now, it seems he has grown and matured. Thereby, making a much better impression.
I agree with you 💯
Agreed. Takes a real man to admit his mistakes, more so in front of millions of people. He's a car guy through and through, maybe not your kinda car guy or cars, but his passion can't be denied
I love how Temerian takes us along the emotional rollercoaster of these complex and unique deals through his story telling style! Thanx once again John and not to be over looked, Ed and his Vinwiki CarStories!!!!!
Curated to VINwiki I can’t get enough of the passion
Yes John is very passionate and has a great energy, great storyteller! Real car guy!
This is what I love about car collections, the wildest cars can pop up out of nowhere, I was driving by a neighborhood close to mine and saw (could only make out the rear in the almost never opened garage) what appeared to be a 67 gt350 and my jaw dropped. You travel around small towns especially and you can find some of the wildest cars you never knew existed, or you knew they existed but had never seen one before
I genuinely do believe that John is passionate about cars and loves them very much. However, I can't get past the fact that he is a car salesman. I just can't look at his smile and hear his enthusiasm without wondering whether any of it is genuine.
THANK YOU!
Patience and way to handle rejection is THE thing to be learned from John.. Commending to see how John is describing deal which fell through with such composed demeanor
I saw the redcgt at cars and coffee a few weeks ago here in San Diego. Still has same plate
I drive by a certain address darn near every day just to look at an Aston in a driveway. I get the passion.
I ADORE the stories!!❤❤
Like my favorite ex-boss alway said,”Time kills deals”.
John is a fantastic story teller, and an all round good guy. Thanks for this!
John was able to find partners with enough liquid to buy stuff like this but he’s never been investigated for money laundering that’s the most impressive part about this lol
He probably gets audited every year lol
You trained the seller on how to track the value of each car. He may not have known all that. But after you told him all that he decided to keep them.
Very safe to say the owner of the collection made out much better in the long run. Guarantee he had someone tell him to back out because the potential of values sky rocketing and the owner was all for sitting on the collection as he clearly wasn't hurting for money lol.
Still a dick move after shaking on it. Word spreads that you're not a serious business partner and your reputation could suffer. Dude obviously has a shit ton of money though so probably isn't bothered.
Fr, he also said he waited a few days to send him the final contract…that’s more then enough time for somebody to convince him to back out. Strike while the irons hot
i love watching these but i think it would cool if the thumbnails had like a cut out picture of the story teller so we know who is telling the story
Then you wouldn’t watch some of them and Ed wouldn’t get paid for the click. C’mon, why you trying to be so bad to your friend Ed? 😆
The fun part is trying to guess who it's gonna be by just the title 😅
Damn that Maranello is simply perfect.
Smart move from the collector: put the car on open market and you get the best price. Give all in to 1 dealer is way too primitive and loosing a lot of money
Who knows if he actually got a better deal or not when you factor in auction fees, also, auctions are usually not the best for getting the most value out of anything. You are just hoping the right people there on the right day in the right mood.
@@chadnoneo9769 it’s easy to check the priced he sold the car
@@silhouette300yeah but like the other person said the auction fees can be costly, more than 5% typically and as a high as 10% so unless the cars gained more than 10% in value the seller likely didn’t make more money plus you’d have to factor in the cost of ownership for another 5 years. That’s a lot of maintenance on 30+ cars and if it was neglected that would drop the price as well and who knows how much insurance coverage was over that period of time. There are a ton of factors at play with such a collection, I’m guessing any money he made over Johns offer was used up on the costs of keeping them another 5 years.
4-5 years he probably did better? No fucking shit. He ABSOLUTELY did better, on every single vehicle. COVID made everything explode in value.
I feel John on the disappointment of this one. Back when I sold Fords I had a very miniature version of something like this where I spent hours and hours with the guy, thought we had a deal, and then he uncerimoniously backed out. That was when I decided I was done selling normie cars.
who else think John's stories are the best the passion the drive amazing
Man, that LFA NR... Beautiful. Already heard the story on CuratedTV, John is a legend, fin.
The Lexus Lfa Nurburg is the one car I would keep if selling that collection. Im 25 and growing up it was, and is my favorite car of all time. The looks, performance, sound, and toyota/lexus heritage is everything I love when it comes to vehicles.
This is a 30 Million collection in 2021... Or a 20 Million collection in 2023.
Sometimes a deal passes by without fruition. Name of the game. John tells a great back story!
Curated always brings passion
Paying 5% over value on purchase could have eaten into your potential profits making some cars a loss. $25,000 is the price of the lessons learned and all part of becoming a master craftsman.
Just remember @John Temerian, "What doesn't kill you will only make you stronger.
You had me with black BMW M1!
Cant believe this guy is still wearing Balenciaga much less the same Balenciaga shirt in every video
John is the living embodiment of my passion for cars and that’s why I can probably listen to him all day
Am I the only one that misses the out of context quotes before the intro
No you're not.
Overpaying almost always helps get a deal done. 😂
John always has a great story and knows how to tell it.
Rabbit too :)
I believe that the EB110 in this collection is the one that Doug Demuro reviewed!
i JUST checked this and 100% it is the same collection
God what a collection 😍😍😍
Did that seller get a professional appraisal for free?
I'm going to put $25k into a negotiation and then leave without signed contracts...
It's a cost of doing business. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose.
I get the sense he used you to figure out what he's cars were worth, no?
Wow, this collection is absolutely stunning!😍
Is this the EB110 at Miller Motorcars in CT now?
People that say : I'm a workaholic , generally suck
What a charming person.
The see the older Nissan 300ZX front end and headlights when I glance at the Bugatti
You must be doing all right. Wearing a $650 T-shirt.
Hey Ed &John!!! 🎉🎈
Nice, gotta love new content ❤
I'm also not a Carrera RS expert either. We have that in common.
Great content and presentation. Thanks.😊
Well at least all of that is a business expense.
Cornelius Would Be Proud.🙌🏼
That man had fantastic taste
What’s the point of even liking cars anymore all the cars worth driving are hoarded away and price gouged up the wazoo
that guy is a pos. he had u do free work. thats a grifter.
100% agree, wastes his time over the span of months and tons of money on travel. While he did all the work of valuing them to the point they say they have a deal then backs out in the most chicken shit kind of way.
Yeah guy was a POS for sure.
In Jakarta today on a business trip I seen a clean silver Diablo VT same as I could of got in 2007 for 140k AUD that's the one for me that got away 😢
Looked like doug demuro reviewed the eb110 from that collection
Early from downunder
Here with you brother 🦘
I love this guy
Every super car collection is a super car collection I can't buy.
This sounds alot like the ‘collection’ of stolen cars that Clay Thom from the bankrupt CNC motors ‘sold’ on consignment and didn’t pay any of the owners.
that orange LFA oh my god
I highly doubt that John is your typical car salesman with all his passion. Selling cars is just a function he has to undertake to indulge his passion.
Amazing collection
That is a huge punch to the go sack. Ouch. Live and learn is his motto.
Man, that just describes the life of sales to a T. Whatever it is you're selling, one minute your King Kong, the next you're a turd. Glad at all workout.
Ufff sweet collection
super cool to watch these videos
Did you misspell "opportunity" in the thumbnail deliberately?
i hear hoovies collection might be available relatively cheap
Been there done that
Best of THE BEST
John, you have my respect, but the deal didn't fall through because you overpaid, but the opposite: He simply realized he can get more elsewhere.
Magical video.
I dont think there is any coincidence that Temerian keeps getting dropped from deals, from the Miura that just had the deposit returned out of the blue, to this and that and the next thing. When you look at his past, and then look at the type of person that is actually in a position to own, and then sell, million dollar cars, it's no shock that they would find out his shady reputation and proceed to shut down and avoid any further dealings with him.
Grammar police... c'mon Ed lol
You can get pissed off just by listening to this story let alone be the one who get’s “no i wont sell you my cars “ guy
The owner of the vehicles broke Mazal, you never break Mazal. He shook on it, that’s how men did deals in the past, your word and your handshake WAS your bond. Means nothing anymore in todays world 🤦♂️
Hi Ed. @vinwiki
Why all your guests are great with great stories, it would be nice to begin bringing new people and storytellers to your shows. It’s getting repetitive with the same people over and over again.
Just a constructive criticism
Regards
Alec Cartio
Wow
Next
This channel took a depressing plummet into obscurity
Thanks for sharing
how lol. 2 of their videos in the last week have 500k and 300k views that is absolutely not obscure
@@rasic7041 look at their earlier stuff. One of the videos you’re referencing is a complete outlier
😂
Why are you wearing a satanic t shirt?
I'm glad I am not the only one who noticed this. I've always been a little skeptical of this guy.
@@victorgatta2408 it's just weird... Why would you wear a satanic/pedophilic shirt for the whole world to see?
I made my mrs sell her satanic clothing
TH-cam ADS SUCK !!!
Dude was playing you like a fiddle, you have been owned, sir. And then made to publicly acknowledge this. Repent the kingdom of the Lord is near Jesus Christ is Lordman cannot serve both God and mammon ($) he will love one and hate the other. A kingdom divided against itself cannot stand.
Riches cannot bring eternity
So this guy is wearing a Balenciaga "AKA: Pedo brand....
nosoupforyou