Watched the review and heard the comments but when I tried the 450 in the store a lot of his issues were non issues for me, that pinky leave it off for the end of the knife, first three fingers on the contours, it actually feels kind of weird to try and fit all four fingers. Ended up buying it and could not be happier, it's a great knife
Wow, nitpicking! This knife is a minimum 8/10 in my books and even compares to my small Sebenza, actually outdoing it with its action! Given that it is a small EDC knife, you could just move your pinky backward by a small margin - mine sits on the ramp. Not sized for tactical or heavy use, but still exceptional! Thanks your thorough reviews, love them, but I disagree with your sentiment in this case. I own the 0452 and 0562CF, and think that they would be better suited for your unique requirements. I carried mine today to the office, perfect!
I just picked one up at Gander Outdoors at 50% off. So, $90 for an American made titanium knife with s35vn steel all I can say is FUCK CHINA and any other commie country. 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
one of the first times I don't agree with you. I love the 0450 so much I have 3 different runs of it. Fits in my hand great and I'm 6'11" Probably the best flipping action of any ZTs I own. And damn its a looker. But to each his own I guess. Love your channel BTW.
There is nothing wrong with the 0450. It just does not fit the reviewer. He needs a knife with a larger handle like Spyderco Manix lightweight or a Paramilitary. My hands are about his size, but 3 1/2 finger grips on smaller knives are something I am used to. My 0450 has had no issues at all.
Thanks for your honest review. I recently bought an 0450 and love it. The action is phenomenal. I agree with your comments on the back of the handle, but it doesn't bother me that much. The high ride pocket clip is my only complaint. I would not hesitate to take this knife into the backcountry. It's sturdy and would do wonders at gutting trout, cutting cord, etc. I tend to shy away from fighting grizzlies and falling trees while backpacking. ;-). So far my blade is staying centered.
Having bought the oversized GL 0452CF over a year ago, yesterday I received my 0450CF yesterday. I love it, a perfect EDC companion to my Chris Reeve Impinda. I have BIG hands and I honestly don’t know what problem reviewers have with their pinkies!! Cut them off with your 0450CF, problem gone 😉
I picked up a ZT 0450 CF a couple of weeks ago. Really love the look and feel of the carbon fiber version. Nice and light. Hardly notice it in my pocket.
Thanks for the review, I was just up in Door County, Wisconsin this past weekend and found a great knife display at one of the shops (Hide Side Corner Store, Fish Creek, WI) while my wife was shopping. I tried many a blade from many manufacturers and found this one ( ZT 0450) the best fit for me the instant I gripped and flipped it open. The nib fits right between my last two fingers, has a great feel. Got it for a little over the price you stated. I enjoy your reviews, they are very thorough. I do recommend to try before you buy, it worked for me. This is not my first flipper, but it is my best EDC flipper.
It's a small knife but if that's all you had I'm sure it'll do the job for self defense... especially with that SHARP blade!!!! Think about this before you disagree, inn a prison somewhere out there somebody lost there life to a sharpened toothbrush lol so can't tell me this knife can't be used for defense... just my opinion I'm far from Rambro.. lol
I have the 0450CF, and I have to agree fantastic EDC, but that's where it ends, it will suprise you with how stout it is and how strong the lockup is, the ergonomics are perfect for my medium sized hands. A lot of folders like Paramilitary 2 by Spyderco are too large, it's actually nice ZT built a knife with egos for us under 6' crowd
Ive owned this one for almost 3 years and its served me very well. One thing to mention is that the handle is not a good fit for large hands, price is high of course but worth it!
It's a great looking knife made from excellent materials. I'm trying to decide which knife to buy next the 0450 or a Hogue Deka. Both great knives made in the US.
I own the 0450cf, which I bought here in Europe for €260 (about $272). No problems with centering. Cuts fantastic. I have no problems with the hotspot you mentioned. So I am very happy with it.
Bought this knife yesterday, best knife I have owned so far and I have owned quite a few. I’d go as far to say that it reminds me sort of a Small Sebenza (if sebenza was a flipper )at less than half the price. Love all about it but the clip. Ordered a deep carry clip from ZT, thank you for your suggestion on 0561
Just bought this knife. I can't even tell you how smooth this thing is, so much so it almost feels the glide makes it feel almost delicate or light. Fits my hands great but im 5'7 and have probably small-medium sized hands but ive always felt its more about finger thickness than hand size. Knife is great only complaint is the jimping on the blade isn't special, wish it were a little more aggresive. Otherwise its exactly as you'd imagine.
Completely disagree. First off, on the ergonomics, move ur pinky back on to the downward ramp. Done! Second, loctite ur pivot man. come on. 80% of production knives out there require loctite and this is certainly one of them. Yes it is kind of a annoying but it is easily remedied. The problem arises because they do not have a D shaped pivot and thus it is allowed to spin and loosen. Again, it is easily fixed with loctite.
Mark W I have to completely disagree with that, it's high quality materials, beautiful design, and perfectly put together. That's my opinion at least. Perfect for EDC
Jeremy Whitney It's been one heck of a knife for me. My only complaints are deployment is not 100% unless you get the right angle on the flipper. With practice it is not an issue though. Also the clip is not deep carry so for someone in the city like me that's a concern. Nothing else is an issue. The knife is hair-shaving sharp on a weather resistant blade steel. The frame is balanced and the grip is nice. The size is perfect. The construction is amazing.
sadly i own every zt from this year and last except this one and the les george. these are the worst 2 by far i would only recommend it to girls and ppl i hate .... you should go get one
You're videos are the best on TH-cam. Yours are the only ones my wife will be in the same room for. She says "he's the only one that doesn't sound like a moron." lol
had mine since it came out my favorite edc used a couple of years now great knife and yes loctite fixes the centering as there free spinning pivots and yes there right in the comments just move your hand back a bit your initialed to your opinion but I think you should revisit this knife
Don’t irresponsibly opine on self defense with a knife in passing like you did. That’s very irresponsible. First off, carrying a knife for self defense opens up A LOT of criminal liability in most states when you carry a folder over 3 inches (like 450) for that purpose. Second 99% of people (including me) are not even close to qualified to defend themselves with a knife. Self-defense, for the vast amounts of people, is not a consideration for an edc folder. Wilderness folder??? Who claimed this is a wilderness folder? It’s not designed or marketed as a wilderness folder. Why don’t you just say a Jeep Cherokee isn’t a NASCAR vehicle? Duh! This is an edc folder… On the knife itself, I completely disagree with you, but I can’t argue. I think you’re totally wrong, if it doesn’t work for you then you shouldn’t carry it and it makes no sense to keep in your collection. That is fair.
I own that knife too! My finger also lands on that last hump! But if you like the look of the 0450, have you considered the 0452? It's another Dmitry Sinkevich collaboration. The 0452 is longer and more pricey but even more appealing (IMO) as the 0450! Never experienced centering issues with either. Good, honest review!
The blade centering issue is caused by you changing the pocket clip. my dad had the same problem after swapping out the pocket clip, change it back to the original one and now the blade is centered again.
I encourage everyone to buy this awesome knife. Put a new edge on it and fall in love. Just swap out the clip for a deep carry from etsy or ebay and yer good
One hot mess? A little harsh don't you think?! I think you're wrong about the ergos. Or, more accurately, the ergos are just bad for you. I have bigger hands than you, size XL gloves, so the 0450 is almost a 3 finger knife for me. That "cutout" towards the back actually falls in between my ring and little fingers. It's perfect for me. It would be interesting to see what others with smaller sized hands say. This ZT and my 3" XM are as small as it goes for me. Factor in the weight of the ZT and the extra blade length... It's in my pocket more than the XM. As far as F&F go, blade centering is perfect on my all Ti version and CF one. My 940-1, which is really one of the few knives that competes with the 0450, had pretty crummy centering.
The blade is not centered because the pivot screw is not LOCTITED and no matter what folder u have over time the mere force of flipping it causes some micro vibrations that cause the pivot screw to loosen due to the lockbar pressure.
Great review. You might of swayed me away from the 0450 due to handle ergos. Love your supermodel analogy and honesty. Love your channel. It’s my go to. Thanks!!
I had the same centering issue at first, you have to use a copious amount of blue locktite in the pivot due to the fact that it has a free spinning pivot. If the pivot had a D-shape on one side then this issue would be alleviated, but until then, blue locktite has kept my blade centered permanently.
This is a elegant knife, and a great video. This makes me wanna do a review on my newest folder, I just acquired the Spyderco Endura and absolutely love it, the blaze orange is cool too.
Got this knife today and was less than impressed. I'm exchanging (+$80) it for the one I really wanted, the zt 452cf. The 450 is just way too similar to my crkt ripple. Yes, better steel, titanium framelock, but it's coming at $100 more! Just not worth it to me to have two knives that are so similar. The ripple is actually smoother in action than the 450. I started collecting about a year ago and my goal is for every knife I buy to be unique unto itself. I was kind of shocked when I took the 450 out of the box at its size. $160 for such a small knife. For anyone who is budget minded, I'd suggest taking a good look at the $60 ripple before pulling the trigger on the zt 450.
Well you can't knock the man for being honest, that's for sure. This does seem to be a very controversial knife, I just got one myself because of how goddamn gorgeous it was and I'll admit that it's certainly not the most comfortable. I'm gonna replace the clip with an MXG for sure, and it's much more comfortable in a pinch grip. But I'd argue that comfort is not really what it is designed for. You don't wear an Armani suit on a day hike and I hadn't bought this knife with the goal of using it very hard, I have other knives for that. It's a knife to carry around town and do basic stuff with. and I have to say that it is probably the single best made knife I've ever felt to date, the finishing is just immaculate.
Awsome, digging the pocket clip (deeeep carry) . I think it could be used for tactical because the thinness of the blade and the deep finger choile makes it good for stabbing
alot of ppl have had fails with Zero Tolerance blades...folding and fixed. Many vids here of fails but my fixed blade is awesome and dont have any regretes except over-priced. Thxs for upload!
I loved this knife when I first saw it.. only time I’ve said that about a ZT. I bought one thinking that it really could be my endgame edc but it just had too many little things that made it not for me. First, the grind, this is a matter of opinion but it just made me miss the thin hollow grind on the knife I’d been carrying. Just gets too thick, too fast. Next.. lack of cutout on the show scale making it awkward and uncomfortable to unlock. Next.. the clip. Yea I know I can change it but meh. Next.. it’s just a little too large for my tastes. Not by much, but still is. Next.. I feel like it’s just a little too aggressive looking to be my “take and pull out anywhere” knife More.. the screw ends on the “back” side don’t look great. I don’t like the three scoops out of the standoffs. I’d have preferred they just be round. I’m sure I’m forgetting something else but these are things that don’t matter but I still notice em. Do I hate the knife? Far from it! It’s just not the edc knife for me. It ultimately just solidified my thoughts that a plain, small, crk was what I really wanted. It’s a gorgeous knife and tons of fun to flick around. My centering is perfect, I love the finish on the scales and it’s just very pleasing aesthetically.
This lefty doesn't like frame locks. I'm glad that you're always paying attention to value, because many of us don't have a lot of money to spend on knives.
I bought the 0450 and had the same issue with the point hitting my pinky finger . My solution was to round of the points at the butt and finger choil with a Dremel tool . In hindsight i should just have sold it . The handle needed to be 1/2 inch longer .
Sorry but I don't like the look of it. I mean it looks ok. But I don't think that the 0450 is a user knife. As mentioned in the video this is not a knife you'll take with u in the woods.
In your hand keyword that knife is not for u it don’t fit u it fit me perfectly is the best knife I ever had for the price it’s perfect for me and I love it my pinky fits in there it’s perfect for my hand
it would feel better in your hand without that deep carry clip, the original is better for grip.. having both, to me the kershaw skyline feels flimsy compared the the 0450... the skyline liner is thin and the blade is also thin... I would dare say if sebenza made a flipper, it would be hard to beat this.... oh and it would be about $385 for a TI framelock this size
TheDallasdeadeye oh yeah no doubt, griptilian is one of the best folders ever, full size or mini, griptilians are the wickedest blades for everyday needs!
The 0452cf, in my opinion, is the best looking knife has made to date. It's in a class all its own. High class tactical. It's like James Bond kicking someone's ass in a tuxedo.
I have a 450cf and I love it. It weighs in at 2.1 oz and with a 3.25 inch blade , it's tough to beat. I've owned it for about a month now and haven't noticed the blade shifting from center at all. I understand how you might feel the handle is too short giving it a sort of cramped feel, but I guess I don't consider this a "hard use" folder, so the ergo's aren't super important to me. If I have one complaint, it's that the dlc (or whatever the coating is on the cf model) seems to wear of easily when the knife rubs against the other crap I have in my pocket. Anyway, that's my 2 cents. Thanks for the vid!
If you have large hands get a large knife that's why it's important not to just blindly buy something off the internet got to have it in the hand you're going to have something you're going to carry every day make sure it fits you that's why they sell the zto 452 It's a larger knife
Different strokes for different folks I guess. Ironically enough, I prefer those big beefy blades from ZT. I am a huge fan of the now discontinued 0300 series.
Hey Aaron, love your videos. Such thorough reviews! I've got a Steel Will Gekko 1500 on the way because of you. Anyway, I think you should check out the Buck Marksman 830 for EDC. I recently picked one up to try the strap lock, and let me tell you, you won't be disappointed. Difficult to close one handed but that's the only setback.
those intro panning shots. holy shit that was endearing. I've got the same knife. Left that fucker on an actual grill so long that the standoffs are no longer red.
Been thinkn' bout something for a while... this is not calling any particular knife company out, but you would think that any new blade today that hits the market today would have no issues with the ergonomics. Somewhere along the lines someone should be able to pick up the flaw before it's released. I mean, it's their business ! .....PAPA DUKES (playing armchair knife designer)
I have this knife ,It was getting stiffer opening so I took it appart ,wow was i surprised to find the corosion arround the bearing, I took another ZT appart and the bearings were to rusty!
If you leave the original pocket clip on you won't have the problem of pushing down on the frame lock. The original pocket clip is longer and is used to rest your thumb on instead of resting it on the frame lock.
gotta agree--a great knife for smaller paws. i have some garishly long fingers and take extra large gloves. still, i like some small knives, knowing that they are just too small--i'll make allowances for carry and looks. gonna try the 452 cf since it's legal in my state. gotta say, i always want your take, cause i've never gone wrong following your thoughts...
Does anyone else find that Aaron has become increasingly more arrogant since his channel started? I can't help but laugh when he is "defending" himself from a tree in some of his fixed blade vids. First of all there are very people purchasing knives with the intention of using them in "tactical situations, and for those who are they are not watching these reviews to help with there decision.
Haha, I know it is silly fighting a tree, I have tried to start using foam dummies, and foam roles now. I have never claimed to be a knife fighter, and say so regularly. I try to keep a level head and just give my honest opinion. As time goes on and I review more products, I know what I like and what I don't and I know what should be expected at a certain price range in quality and fit and finish. I hope it doesn't come off as arrogant. At the end of the day I am just a goof who likes the outdoors and knives, and likes to share my thoughts with the audience.
Is your blade centering issue due to the pivot loosening up? I know that pivot is known to have that issue ans requires a small bit of blue locktite applied with proper time allowed for it to set up before use
Robert I bought the 0452CF GL 18 months ago but last week I also bought the 0450CF after getting that look in restaurants when I pulled my 0452 to cut my steak.
I kind of wish you were not so emphatic about people skipping a knife based on how it fits YOUR hand. Betting my hands are as big or bigger than yours. The 0450 fits me fine. Time to upgrade your hands buddy. But seriously, this is a "dress knife". Office environment, formal uniform, whatever, but you want to take along a blade the 0450 works. And that is where this knife fits into my system. Personally, I edc the 0095bw. Oregon had a judge rule that a 4" folder was a pocket knife because "it folds up and fits in your pocket". The blade thickness and width are so identical to the Esee Izula that it makes an awesome slicer. I've used it to cut fresh baked bread, cheese and ham to make a sandwich, open packages, do some camp tasks... but it isn't "office friendly". The 0450 is.
The pivot is the reason I went with the 0808. And if anyone is asking KAI will not send you a clip even if you offer to cover the full cost. They told me the model with this style of deep carry clip was discontinued and the clips are no longer manufactured which tbh sounds like a load of bs. What about warranty? Some clip snaps, what will they tell you? "Oh sorry we discontinued this model, go fuck yourself" .
I try to stab at least two to three phone books on a daily basis, so thanks for that Sir! It's a nice looking knife with those red spacers, but for my 1st ZT I'm looking at getting the 0770CF (so I'm saving up now). P.S. - I love the Hot Mess Analogy in the wrap up!
Watched the review and heard the comments but when I tried the 450 in the store a lot of his issues were non issues for me, that pinky leave it off for the end of the knife, first three fingers on the contours, it actually feels kind of weird to try and fit all four fingers. Ended up buying it and could not be happier, it's a great knife
Terry Uy yes - I have that knife and really like it
Wow, nitpicking! This knife is a minimum 8/10 in my books and even compares to my small Sebenza, actually outdoing it with its action! Given that it is a small EDC knife, you could just move your pinky backward by a small margin - mine sits on the ramp. Not sized for tactical or heavy use, but still exceptional! Thanks your thorough reviews, love them, but I disagree with your sentiment in this case. I own the 0452 and 0562CF, and think that they would be better suited for your unique requirements. I carried mine today to the office, perfect!
+ZAWatchman At that price I have to be. lol
Kvt bearings, full titanium frame, S35VN steel, ambi pocket clip, what knife offers all this at 160.00?
@Gus Lulu well said!
God Bless America!
@@CASTRO45ACP 180 where i live...
I just picked one up at Gander Outdoors at 50% off. So, $90 for an American made titanium knife with s35vn steel all I can say is FUCK CHINA and any other commie country. 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
one of the first times I don't agree with you. I love the 0450 so much I have 3 different runs of it. Fits in my hand great and I'm 6'11" Probably the best flipping action of any ZTs I own. And damn its a looker. But to each his own I guess. Love your channel BTW.
There is nothing wrong with the 0450. It just does not fit the reviewer. He needs a knife with a larger handle like Spyderco Manix lightweight or a Paramilitary. My hands are about his size, but 3 1/2 finger grips on smaller knives are something I am used to. My 0450 has had no issues at all.
Below Average Joe. Well he has said at least 100 times that the Manix 2 LW is his favorite knife
Hot mess? It’s a superb small folder. The hot mess is the review.
Why do I disagree with this guy on almost everything
Literally same. He complains about everything and its cheesy ghe way he reviews.
Agreed same here
Because he is giving his OPINION of the knife.
I own this knife and it is Awsome! The blade material S35vn holds a edge well.......👍
The ZT 0450 is by far my favorite folder in my collection. I have yet to find a better action.
There's no wrong tool, only the right tool for the wrong job.
If this knife doesn't stay centered, why call it Zero Tolerance? Call it minimal 0.5mm tolerance.
This guys hand literally gets hurt every knife. Jesus. "iT dIgS iN" "nOt ErGoNoMiC"
Took him 17 minutes to say he doesn't like it and dont buy it smh.
I got my 0450cf just last week . It rocks ! Weighs almost nothing And it just a thing of beauty!!
Thanks for your honest review. I recently bought an 0450 and love it. The action is phenomenal. I agree with your comments on the back of the handle, but it doesn't bother me that much. The high ride pocket clip is my only complaint. I would not hesitate to take this knife into the backcountry. It's sturdy and would do wonders at gutting trout, cutting cord, etc. I tend to shy away from fighting grizzlies and falling trees while backpacking. ;-). So far my blade is staying centered.
IDK why yours does that blade float thing. Got mine yesterday and probably opened it a hundred times more already, still vrey sturdy and not floating.
I'm thinking it's because he swapped out the clip.
Having bought the oversized GL 0452CF over a year ago, yesterday I received my 0450CF yesterday. I love it, a perfect EDC companion to my Chris Reeve Impinda. I have BIG hands and I honestly don’t know what problem reviewers have with their pinkies!! Cut them off with your 0450CF, problem gone 😉
This knife has perfect ergos for my hands. My pinky falls right behind that hump in the back, it feels great
Love the 0450! Have bigger hands too but put MXG deep carry clip on it and it makes it way more comfortable to use.
pretty sure youre the only person who doesnt like this knife haha all ive seen is glowing reviews
I picked up a ZT 0450 CF a couple of weeks ago. Really love the look and feel of the carbon fiber version. Nice and light. Hardly notice it in my pocket.
Thanks for the review, I was just up in Door County, Wisconsin this past weekend and found a great knife display at one of the shops (Hide Side Corner Store, Fish Creek, WI) while my wife was shopping. I tried many a blade from many manufacturers and found this one ( ZT 0450) the best fit for me the instant I gripped and flipped it open. The nib fits right between my last two fingers, has a great feel. Got it for a little over the price you stated. I enjoy your reviews, they are very thorough. I do recommend to try before you buy, it worked for me. This is not my first flipper, but it is my best EDC flipper.
I noticed you stabbed a phonebook with an icepick grip during your EDC tasks segment, what EDC task is that supposed to represent?
It's a small knife but if that's all you had I'm sure it'll do the job for self defense... especially with that SHARP blade!!!! Think about this before you disagree, inn a prison somewhere out there somebody lost there life to a sharpened toothbrush lol so can't tell me this knife can't be used for defense... just my opinion I'm far from Rambro.. lol
I have the 0450CF, and I have to agree fantastic EDC, but that's where it ends, it will suprise you with how stout it is and how strong the lockup is, the ergonomics are perfect for my medium sized hands. A lot of folders like Paramilitary 2 by Spyderco are too large, it's actually nice ZT built a knife with egos for us under 6' crowd
Ive owned this one for almost 3 years and its served me very well. One thing to mention is that the handle is not a good fit for large hands, price is high of course but worth it!
the 0450 is actually my favorite folder ever.
As with many other people I'm sure lol
It's a great looking knife made from excellent materials. I'm trying to decide which knife to buy next the 0450 or a Hogue Deka. Both great knives made in the US.
I own the 0450cf, which I bought here in Europe for €260 (about $272). No problems with centering. Cuts fantastic. I have no problems with the hotspot you mentioned. So I am very happy with it.
Bought this knife yesterday, best knife I have owned so far and I have owned quite a few. I’d go as far to say that it reminds me sort of a Small Sebenza (if sebenza was a flipper )at less than half the price. Love all about it but the clip. Ordered a deep carry clip from ZT, thank you for your suggestion on 0561
Just bought this knife. I can't even tell you how smooth this thing is, so much so it almost feels the glide makes it feel almost delicate or light.
Fits my hands great but im 5'7 and have probably small-medium sized hands but ive always felt its more about finger thickness than hand size.
Knife is great only complaint is the jimping on the blade isn't special, wish it were a little more aggresive. Otherwise its exactly as you'd imagine.
Completely disagree. First off, on the ergonomics, move ur pinky back on to the downward ramp. Done! Second, loctite ur pivot man. come on. 80% of production knives out there require loctite and this is certainly one of them. Yes it is kind of a annoying but it is easily remedied. The problem arises because they do not have a D shaped pivot and thus it is allowed to spin and loosen. Again, it is easily fixed with loctite.
no this was the shit model for this year utter crap and you know it
I just bought one...
Mark W I have to completely disagree with that, it's high quality materials, beautiful design, and perfectly put together. That's my opinion at least. Perfect for EDC
Jeremy Whitney It's been one heck of a knife for me. My only complaints are deployment is not 100% unless you get the right angle on the flipper. With practice it is not an issue though. Also the clip is not deep carry so for someone in the city like me that's a concern. Nothing else is an issue. The knife is hair-shaving sharp on a weather resistant blade steel. The frame is balanced and the grip is nice. The size is perfect. The construction is amazing.
sadly i own every zt from this year and last except this one and the les george. these are the worst 2 by far i would only recommend it to girls and ppl i hate .... you should go get one
Do you have any experience with the ZT 0452cf? It might fit your hand a bit better.
You're videos are the best on TH-cam. Yours are the only ones my wife will be in the same room for. She says "he's the only one that doesn't sound like a moron." lol
So they need a special edition just for you called
"Large Sized Gloves" ;)
had mine since it came out my favorite edc used a couple of years now great knife and yes loctite fixes the centering as there free spinning pivots and yes there right in the comments just move your hand back a bit your initialed to your opinion but I think you should revisit this knife
Don’t irresponsibly opine on self defense with a knife in passing like you did. That’s very irresponsible.
First off, carrying a knife for self defense opens up A LOT of criminal liability in most states when you carry a folder over 3 inches (like 450) for that purpose. Second 99% of people (including me) are not even close to qualified to defend themselves with a knife. Self-defense, for the vast amounts of people, is not a consideration for an edc folder.
Wilderness folder??? Who claimed this is a wilderness folder? It’s not designed or marketed as a wilderness folder. Why don’t you just say a Jeep Cherokee isn’t a NASCAR vehicle? Duh! This is an edc folder…
On the knife itself, I completely disagree with you, but I can’t argue. I think you’re totally wrong, if it doesn’t work for you then you shouldn’t carry it and it makes no sense to keep in your collection. That is fair.
I own that knife too! My finger also lands on that last hump! But if you like the look of the 0450, have you considered the 0452? It's another Dmitry Sinkevich collaboration. The 0452 is longer and more pricey but even more appealing (IMO) as the 0450! Never experienced centering issues with either. Good, honest review!
Wilderness folder 🤣 I can’t take you serious anymore.
The blade centering issue is caused by you changing the pocket clip. my dad had the same problem after swapping out the pocket clip, change it back to the original one and now the blade is centered again.
oof.. this knife is so not a "hot mess" in my opinion. So not a hot mess!
I encourage everyone to buy this awesome knife. Put a new edge on it and fall in love. Just swap out the clip for a deep carry from etsy or ebay and yer good
Dude's review is the hot mess.
One hot mess? A little harsh don't you think?! I think you're wrong about the ergos. Or, more accurately, the ergos are just bad for you. I have bigger hands than you, size XL gloves, so the 0450 is almost a 3 finger knife for me. That "cutout" towards the back actually falls in between my ring and little fingers. It's perfect for me. It would be interesting to see what others with smaller sized hands say. This ZT and my 3" XM are as small as it goes for me. Factor in the weight of the ZT and the extra blade length... It's in my pocket more than the XM.
As far as F&F go, blade centering is perfect on my all Ti version and CF one. My 940-1, which is really one of the few knives that competes with the 0450, had pretty crummy centering.
I'm feeling plenty of Sebenza vibes coming from this knife
I have xl hands, and the zt 0450 fits great in my hands.
Good to know. I'm probably about to pick one up
The blade is not centered because the pivot screw is not LOCTITED and no matter what folder u have over time the mere force of flipping it causes some micro vibrations that cause the pivot screw to loosen due to the lockbar pressure.
John
Great review. You might of swayed me away from the 0450 due to handle ergos. Love your supermodel analogy and honesty. Love your channel. It’s my go to. Thanks!!
Thanks so much Roger!
This knife could be used for self defense no problem it’s a solid little knife you want a good defensive weapon carry a gun or a fixed blade
at first look I thought was a Chris Reeves Sebenza
I had the same centering issue at first, you have to use a copious amount of blue locktite in the pivot due to the fact that it has a free spinning pivot. If the pivot had a D-shape on one side then this issue would be alleviated, but until then, blue locktite has kept my blade centered permanently.
love this brand.. especially my 456
This is a elegant knife, and a great video. This makes me wanna do a review on my newest folder, I just acquired the Spyderco Endura and absolutely love it, the blaze orange is cool too.
Got this knife today and was less than impressed. I'm exchanging (+$80) it for the one I really wanted, the zt 452cf. The 450 is just way too similar to my crkt ripple. Yes, better steel, titanium framelock, but it's coming at $100 more! Just not worth it to me to have two knives that are so similar. The ripple is actually smoother in action than the 450. I started collecting about a year ago and my goal is for every knife I buy to be unique unto itself. I was kind of shocked when I took the 450 out of the box at its size. $160 for such a small knife. For anyone who is budget minded, I'd suggest taking a good look at the $60 ripple before pulling the trigger on the zt 450.
I just bought this. Thought I got a good deal at 180 bucks. I found out it was 160 when it first came out. Correct?
Well you can't knock the man for being honest, that's for sure. This does seem to be a very controversial knife, I just got one myself because of how goddamn gorgeous it was and I'll admit that it's certainly not the most comfortable. I'm gonna replace the clip with an MXG for sure, and it's much more comfortable in a pinch grip. But I'd argue that comfort is not really what it is designed for. You don't wear an Armani suit on a day hike and I hadn't bought this knife with the goal of using it very hard, I have other knives for that. It's a knife to carry around town and do basic stuff with. and I have to say that it is probably the single best made knife I've ever felt to date, the finishing is just immaculate.
Awsome, digging the pocket clip (deeeep carry) . I think it could be used for tactical because the thinness of the blade and the deep finger choile makes it good for stabbing
alot of ppl have had fails with Zero Tolerance blades...folding and fixed. Many vids here of fails but my fixed blade is awesome and dont have any regretes except over-priced. Thxs for upload!
I agree with most everyone, this is a well made beauty!
I loved this knife when I first saw it.. only time I’ve said that about a ZT. I bought one thinking that it really could be my endgame edc but it just had too many little things that made it not for me.
First, the grind, this is a matter of opinion but it just made me miss the thin hollow grind on the knife I’d been carrying. Just gets too thick, too fast.
Next.. lack of cutout on the show scale making it awkward and uncomfortable to unlock.
Next.. the clip. Yea I know I can change it but meh.
Next.. it’s just a little too large for my tastes. Not by much, but still is.
Next.. I feel like it’s just a little too aggressive looking to be my “take and pull out anywhere” knife
More.. the screw ends on the “back” side don’t look great. I don’t like the three scoops out of the standoffs. I’d have preferred they just be round. I’m sure I’m forgetting something else but these are things that don’t matter but I still notice em.
Do I hate the knife? Far from it! It’s just not the edc knife for me. It ultimately just solidified my thoughts that a plain, small, crk was what I really wanted. It’s a gorgeous knife and tons of fun to flick around. My centering is perfect, I love the finish on the scales and it’s just very pleasing aesthetically.
The only issue I have with mine is the factory pocket clip. Other than that, it's a great gentleman's carry knife.
“Eye candy appeal” lol
This lefty doesn't like frame locks. I'm glad that you're always paying attention to value, because many of us don't have a lot of money to spend on knives.
I bought the 0450 and had the same issue with the point hitting my pinky finger . My solution was to round of the points at the butt and finger choil with a Dremel tool . In hindsight i should just have sold it . The handle needed to be 1/2 inch longer .
Sorry but I don't like the look of it. I mean it looks ok. But I don't think that the 0450 is a user knife. As mentioned in the video this is not a knife you'll take with u in the woods.
In your hand keyword that knife is not for u it don’t fit u it fit me perfectly is the best knife I ever had for the price it’s perfect for me and I love it my pinky fits in there it’s perfect for my hand
it would feel better in your hand without that deep carry clip, the original is better for grip.. having both, to me the kershaw skyline feels flimsy compared the the 0450... the skyline liner is thin and the blade is also thin... I would dare say if sebenza made a flipper, it would be hard to beat this.... oh and it would be about $385 for a TI framelock this size
How did you get that deep carry clip?
i dont choose by form and looks, i choose by how well it functions, that why i edc benchmade 551
TheDallasdeadeye oh yeah no doubt, griptilian is one of the best folders ever, full size or mini, griptilians are the wickedest blades for everyday needs!
The 0452cf, in my opinion, is the best looking knife has made to date. It's in a class all its own. High class tactical. It's like James Bond kicking someone's ass in a tuxedo.
Put blue loc tite on the pivot screw it will stop it from loosening it's a common thing.
+semperfipt good tip
I have a 450cf and I love it. It weighs in at 2.1 oz and with a 3.25 inch blade , it's tough to beat. I've owned it for about a month now and haven't noticed the blade shifting from center at all. I understand how you might feel the handle is too short giving it a sort of cramped feel, but I guess I don't consider this a "hard use" folder, so the ergo's aren't super important to me. If I have one complaint, it's that the dlc (or whatever the coating is on the cf model) seems to wear of easily when the knife rubs against the other crap I have in my pocket. Anyway, that's my 2 cents. Thanks for the vid!
My friend has this knife Aaron and he made a Netting Needle fast with his. I'm not a folder guy, But I do use some in the bush.
If you have large hands get a large knife that's why it's important not to just blindly buy something off the internet got to have it in the hand you're going to have something you're going to carry every day make sure it fits you that's why they sell the zto 452 It's a larger knife
I need a ZT Tree in my yard
Different strokes for different folks I guess. Ironically enough, I prefer those big beefy blades from ZT. I am a huge fan of the now discontinued 0300 series.
Hey Aaron, love your videos. Such thorough reviews! I've got a Steel Will Gekko 1500 on the way because of you. Anyway, I think you should check out the Buck Marksman 830 for EDC. I recently picked one up to try the strap lock, and let me tell you, you won't be disappointed. Difficult to close one handed but that's the only setback.
+ThePaintedCar Glad that the videos help you! I have had it on the radar for awhile, I may do it this year. Thanks for the support!
those intro panning shots. holy shit that was endearing.
I've got the same knife. Left that fucker on an actual grill so long that the standoffs are no longer red.
I just got this knife and other than the not so deep ride pocket clip it's a great knive.
Been thinkn' bout something for a while... this is not calling any particular knife company out, but you would think that any new blade today that hits the market today would have no issues with the ergonomics. Somewhere along the lines someone should be able to pick up the flaw before it's released. I mean, it's their business ! .....PAPA DUKES (playing armchair knife designer)
I have this knife ,It was getting stiffer opening so I took it appart ,wow was i surprised to find the corosion arround the bearing, I took another ZT appart and the bearings were to rusty!
Great review, haven't had the blade float issue, but will keep an eye out for that
That's one nice looking folder for sure. I'm really liking that pocket clip.
It helps for sure
gideonstactical did u order that clip from ZT or just take it off another ZT?
Which would you choose between the 0452 and Benchmade 940-2? They are about the same price.
You keep saying “we” who else is with you?
If you leave the original pocket clip on you won't have the problem of pushing down on the frame lock. The original pocket clip is longer and is used to rest your thumb on instead of resting it on the frame lock.
I used to think the 0301 is the sexiest blade that ZT came out with, but this one beats it! Thanks for the video.
gotta agree--a great knife for smaller paws. i have some garishly long fingers and take extra large gloves. still, i like some small knives, knowing that they are just too small--i'll make allowances for carry and looks. gonna try the 452 cf since it's legal in my state. gotta say, i always want your take, cause i've never gone wrong following your thoughts...
cool knife just purchased so many
Assuming it is the same as the the 0808 the screw on the lock bar is for the steel lock interface not the detent,
I had problems opening mine because the pocket clip wiggled its way onto the lock bar and was adding tension.
I've been pretty happy with my 0808 which I chose over the 0450. It's heavy but great feels in the hand.
+R.D. Endeavor lmao
Same here! I had to decide between a 0450 or a 0808: ergo in the latter is amazing, plus is one of the most elegant design I've ever seen.
I stab phone books everyday.
Does anyone else find that Aaron has become increasingly more arrogant since his channel started? I can't help but laugh when he is "defending" himself from a tree in some of his fixed blade vids. First of all there are very people purchasing knives with the intention of using them in "tactical situations, and for those who are they are not watching these reviews to help with there decision.
Haha, I know it is silly fighting a tree, I have tried to start using foam dummies, and foam roles now. I have never claimed to be a knife fighter, and say so regularly. I try to keep a level head and just give my honest opinion. As time goes on and I review more products, I know what I like and what I don't and I know what should be expected at a certain price range in quality and fit and finish. I hope it doesn't come off as arrogant. At the end of the day I am just a goof who likes the outdoors and knives, and likes to share my thoughts with the audience.
gideonstactical
You do fine. Like your videos & your candid insight about gear.
No
its so beautiful
Is your blade centering issue due to the pivot loosening up? I know that pivot is known to have that issue ans requires a small bit of blue locktite applied with proper time allowed for it to set up before use
Since when is killing phone books an edc task?
Thanks for stopping my purchase based on aesthetics, appreciate it.
To be fair it's tiny in my hand too
Robert I bought the 0452CF GL 18 months ago but last week I also bought the 0450CF after getting that look in restaurants when I pulled my 0452 to cut my steak.
That can totally be a self defense knife, what are you talking about
Stabbing a book is an edc task? I must not be a true edcer
will be watching to see if they adjust the design based off of feedback.
I’ll take your 450 if you don’t want it js.
I kind of wish you were not so emphatic about people skipping a knife based on how it fits YOUR hand. Betting my hands are as big or bigger than yours. The 0450 fits me fine. Time to upgrade your hands buddy.
But seriously, this is a "dress knife". Office environment, formal uniform, whatever, but you want to take along a blade the 0450 works. And that is where this knife fits into my system.
Personally, I edc the 0095bw. Oregon had a judge rule that a 4" folder was a pocket knife because "it folds up and fits in your pocket". The blade thickness and width are so identical to the Esee Izula that it makes an awesome slicer. I've used it to cut fresh baked bread, cheese and ham to make a sandwich, open packages, do some camp tasks... but it isn't "office friendly". The 0450 is.
The pivot is the reason I went with the 0808. And if anyone is asking KAI will not send you a clip even if you offer to cover the full cost. They told me the model with this style of deep carry clip was discontinued and the clips are no longer manufactured which tbh sounds like a load of bs. What about warranty? Some clip snaps, what will they tell you? "Oh sorry we discontinued this model, go fuck yourself" .
Really? I've seen guys on youtube who have ordered deep carry clips for their 450's, I just went aftermarket with a titanium deep carry clip.
Dobrin Sabew They just sent me a deep carry clip. No questions asked.
I try to stab at least two to three phone books on a daily basis, so thanks for that Sir! It's a nice looking knife with those red spacers, but for my 1st ZT I'm looking at getting the 0770CF (so I'm saving up now).
P.S. - I love the Hot Mess Analogy in the wrap up!