Interesting how you noted the Reflex being less snappy, as many consider the Shield Plus to be one of the softest shooters in its class. Definitely looking at maybe replacing my Hellcat Pro with the Reflex in the future. Great video!
Enjoy your comparison videos and appreciate that your are one of the first out with new firearms! I think many of us are weighing pros and cons of these pistols...possibly as our next carry option. There isn't much information out there with side by side size comparisons when they first come out. With these new pistols so close in size it's really hard to determine in your videos the length and more importantly the size or height for concealed carry. It's usually a quick shot and the camera angle doesn't show it well as your holding them. One suggestion, might be nice to add a quick table top comparison really showing the size differences in the different configurations (mag options) between them. Nice review, appreciate your take on these pistols.
I have the Performance Center S&W Shield Plus with a 4" ported barrel and fiber optic sights. It is a great shooter, BUT... putting a red dot on it & shooting only 3 rounds left a carbon soot deposit on the front of the optic lens. So took off the optic and it shoots really well without the optic. Put the optic on my P365XL with an aftermarket 4.2" threaded True Precision barrel without a peep hole. The back sight of the P365XL is removed for the optic to be installed, moving the red dot further back away from the peep hole which isn't there with the True Precision barrel. Ran 50 rounds through the pistol tonight & no soot buildup on the front side of the Holosum 507K lens. And even with the long gritty pull of the P365XL, it outshoot my beloved Shield Plus with the fiber optic sights. I could hit the steel target at 100 yards more consistently with the bad trigger of the P365XL over the crisp trigger of the Shield Plus. Never thought that would happen. Shows the advantage of the red dot at long distances.
Sounds like Smith and Wesson didn’t think that design through very well. Having a hole in front of the optic or even a tilt up design, like the Caniks, lead to an obscured optic, doesn’t make sense to me.
My friend has a shield, plus I've shot it, and it shoots really well it just doesn't fit my hands well. I can't wait for the reflex to be in stock in my area. If it feels good, I'm probably going to switch to it.
I never understood how or why people keep track of exactly how many rounds they've put through a gun. I can't tell you how many rounds I have on any gun I own.
It's easy and useful. If you get let's say 50 round boxes,, you can easily count how many boxes you went through, go home and type it in a document, same place you keep your passwords and resume. Then if you ever get a failure, you can say after how many rounds it was.
I’m a novice and don’t want to shoot myself accidentally in with respect to the trigger getting caught on my clothing. Which one is potentially more safer to carry?
By the way, lefties can rejoice, the mag release is reversible, just to let you know. Glad you’re liking the Reflex. I’m considering it as my carry gun. This or maybe the IWI Masada Slim, or ….So many choices, so little money 😢
Both are great choices and shoot well, although the Masada Slim has a longer grip so it depends on what you're looking for exactly. Best thing to do would be to go to a gun store that has both and hold and handle them and, if possible, shoot them. Can't go wrong with either choice tho.
I've got the Masada Slim, Sheild Plus, and the Reflex. All are super solid choices. Masada will print just a bit, but not enough to matter. I've had zero issues with all three.
You know what's next right? Can you please please do a comparison with the S&W Equalizer 9 vs. FN Reflex 9? These 2 are the closest related with the internal hammer. There's a huge crowd buying into the S&W EZ/Equalizer designs but hating the grip safety!
As far as recoil, the video shows your shoulders are moving more with every shot of the reflex. When you shoot the shield your shoulders don’t move. Video would make me believe the Shield recoils less but since I have never shot the reflex I’ll take your word for it. Both seem nice. I dig the FDE color.
I bought the FN without an optic capable mount a few days ago. I use it for concealed carry self defense. I can't imagine using it at greater than 20 or 30 feet, and it would likely be a lot closer, so the extra bulk and reduced concealability of the red dot don't make sense for me. I really like the crisp trigger of the hammer fired mechanism. It is less than a 5 lb pull, and without a safety I will not appendix carry. This will be my first handgun, other than a Glock, without an external safety or decocker. I have trained to click off the safety as I draw, so I am not anti-safety. However, with this gun it is surely possible to have to live life half c--ked if a mistake is made. A piece of clothing could set it off. Not to mention taking out a femoral artery. we shall see whether this reduces my likelihood of carrying it. Thanks for the review.
I EDC a full size HK VP9 with a trijicon RMR. and I usually forget i have it on me. The idea that a Micro reflex sight, on a micro carry gun, is gonna make a bit of difference as far as concealability or bulkiness. Is laughable. I mean you do you but it really doesn't matter the extra size, weight, real-estate is nothing that would be noticeable. And the odds of shooting past 7-10 yards is low but not impossible, hell 99.9% if people carrying will never have to use their firearm to defende them selves, we carry just in case, reddots if well trained with them are faster and more accurate out to range, and if the user is competent, they are faster and more accurate at bad breath distances too.
I’m sure it’ll be fine carrying it with one in chamber but I feel you, it’s all comfortability at the end of the day, not sure if I’ll appendix it as well, but guess we’ll see, I decided to get one for concealed carry
🛡+ >G26/everything for EDC all day even with flush Mag it’s just better overall only need Tlr6🚫laser, just wish they’d of Kept the ultra reliable hinge trigger style tho but 10/13/15rd can’t beat it they need to make Oem 20rdrs which should be the standard for new 🔫designs nowadays
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Interesting how you noted the Reflex being less snappy, as many consider the Shield Plus to be one of the softest shooters in its class. Definitely looking at maybe replacing my Hellcat Pro with the Reflex in the future. Great video!
It really is baffling. I also have the hellcat pro that I do like. But the REFLEX is a softer shooter over the the shield plus and the hellcat pro.
Do you consider the shield plus a better gun then the hellcat pro ?
Enjoy your comparison videos and appreciate that your are one of the first out with new firearms! I think many of us are weighing pros and cons of these pistols...possibly as our next carry option. There isn't much information out there with side by side size comparisons when they first come out. With these new pistols so close in size it's really hard to determine in your videos the length and more importantly the size or height for concealed carry. It's usually a quick shot and the camera angle doesn't show it well as your holding them. One suggestion, might be nice to add a quick table top comparison really showing the size differences in the different configurations (mag options) between them. Nice review, appreciate your take on these pistols.
Thank you, appreciate the feedback.
Both great choices. Thanks for the demo.
Agreed, every shooter has a different feel for what they are shooting. Nice to have so many options now days.
I enjoyed seeing this comparison. You should compare the Reflex to both the Equalizer and the CSX.
Ive got both and they are both solid carry guns. Cant go wrong either.
Thanks for the review !
You bet!
I have the Shield + and nothing will take its place. 🤔
The Shield Plus is a solid platform. I don't blame you.
Well done thanks for your input
You bet!
I cannot decide...I will purchase the REFLEX SOON.
Always keep in a quality holdter that covers the trigger. And, please, always remove holster to return pistol. Haste makes waste. Boom!
Nice review bud 💯👍🏼
Thanks, appreciate it!
I have the Performance Center S&W Shield Plus with a 4" ported barrel and fiber optic sights. It is a great shooter, BUT... putting a red dot on it & shooting only 3 rounds left a carbon soot deposit on the front of the optic lens. So took off the optic and it shoots really well without the optic. Put the optic on my P365XL with an aftermarket 4.2" threaded True Precision barrel without a peep hole. The back sight of the P365XL is removed for the optic to be installed, moving the red dot further back away from the peep hole which isn't there with the True Precision barrel. Ran 50 rounds through the pistol tonight & no soot buildup on the front side of the Holosum 507K lens. And even with the long gritty pull of the P365XL, it outshoot my beloved Shield Plus with the fiber optic sights. I could hit the steel target at 100 yards more consistently with the bad trigger of the P365XL over the crisp trigger of the Shield Plus. Never thought that would happen. Shows the advantage of the red dot at long distances.
Sounds like Smith and Wesson didn’t think that design through very well. Having a hole in front of the optic or even a tilt up design, like the Caniks, lead to an obscured optic, doesn’t make sense to me.
Interesting!!!
My friend has a shield, plus I've shot it, and it shoots really well it just doesn't fit my hands well. I can't wait for the reflex to be in stock in my area. If it feels good, I'm probably going to switch to it.
Hell yeah brother!
Good job 👍 😎
Thanks!
The mag release on the Reflex actually is reversible. Great video.
Correct I misspoke on that.
What state you film in?
I sold my shield in November of last year. Now I’m on the fence between the FN reflex, the shield plus, and lastly maybe the p365xl.
Shield plus all day. Has factory mill for red dot. Trigger and grip are fantastic.
I never understood how or why people keep track of exactly how many rounds they've put through a gun. I can't tell you how many rounds I have on any gun I own.
It's easy and useful.
If you get let's say 50 round boxes,, you can easily count how many boxes you went through, go home and type it in a document, same place you keep your passwords and resume.
Then if you ever get a failure, you can say after how many rounds it was.
Logs are extremely useful for wear. Some parts need to be replaced at specific round counts.
Thx
Welcome!
I really want the reflex.
do you guys shoot straight from box? should you clean and lube before shooting? help an old newbie out! lol
I always lube them right out of the box. Generally I don't clean them until at least 500 rounds.
Which is a better overall shooter without the dot? Is the reflex actually softer recoiling?
Both are good but they're REFLEX is the overall better shooter.
Is there a really bad con to the internal hammer vs a striker fire? I have a security 9 which is internal hammer and it's smooth as butter
I don't think so. Hammer fire is so smooth compared to striker fire. Both are good in different ways.
Security 9. Under rated for sure.
I’m a novice and don’t want to shoot myself accidentally in with respect to the trigger getting caught on my clothing. Which one is potentially more safer to carry?
The Shield if you want an external safety as well.
By the way, lefties can rejoice, the mag release is reversible, just to let you know. Glad you’re liking the Reflex. I’m considering it as my carry gun. This or maybe the IWI Masada Slim, or ….So many choices, so little money 😢
Good to know. Yeah there is a lot of choices for sure. Which is great!
Both are great choices and shoot well, although the Masada Slim has a longer grip so it depends on what you're looking for exactly. Best thing to do would be to go to a gun store that has both and hold and handle them and, if possible, shoot them. Can't go wrong with either choice tho.
I've got the Masada Slim, Sheild Plus, and the Reflex. All are super solid choices. Masada will print just a bit, but not enough to matter. I've had zero issues with all three.
The mag release is reversible on which one, the reflect or the shield?
@@Fzee_Dre both
I dont know if you mentioned it, but the shield plus is striker fired, the FN reflex is internal hammer fired.
You know what's next right? Can you please please do a comparison with the S&W Equalizer 9 vs. FN Reflex 9? These 2 are the closest related with the internal hammer. There's a huge crowd buying into the S&W EZ/Equalizer designs but hating the grip safety!
I definitely hate the grip safety. I wish we could deactivate it without losing reliability
Taurus g3x vs smith wesson shield plus/ I have them both/ closer than you think!
Internal hammer with no decocker or external safety? No optic plate? Nope.
thinner or you mean longer?
Streamlight TLR-6, no rail needed.
jesus christ the speed you have with the shield plus on the first shots
My next pickup 🤔
As far as recoil, the video shows your shoulders are moving more with every shot of the reflex. When you shoot the shield your shoulders don’t move. Video would make me believe the Shield recoils less but since I have never shot the reflex I’ll take your word for it. Both seem nice. I dig the FDE color.
FN's website says the mag release is reversible.
You're right. I misspoke on that.
I couldn't tell recoil was an issue from the shooting i just watched!
It's for not me, but for others that don't shoot as much it is. Thanks for watching!
You can switch the mag release I believe
Yes you can switch the mag release. I misspoke on that part.
I bought the FN without an optic capable mount a few days ago. I use it for concealed carry self defense. I can't imagine using it at greater than 20 or 30 feet, and it would likely be a lot closer, so the extra bulk and reduced concealability of the red dot don't make sense for me. I really like the crisp trigger of the hammer fired mechanism. It is less than a 5 lb pull, and without a safety I will not appendix carry. This will be my first handgun, other than a Glock, without an external safety or decocker. I have trained to click off the safety as I draw, so I am not anti-safety. However, with this gun it is surely possible to have to live life half c--ked if a mistake is made. A piece of clothing could set it off. Not to mention taking out a femoral artery. we shall see whether this reduces my likelihood of carrying it. Thanks for the review.
I EDC a full size HK VP9 with a trijicon RMR. and I usually forget i have it on me.
The idea that a Micro reflex sight, on a micro carry gun, is gonna make a bit of difference as far as concealability or bulkiness. Is laughable.
I mean you do you but it really doesn't matter the extra size, weight, real-estate is nothing that would be noticeable.
And the odds of shooting past 7-10 yards is low but not impossible, hell 99.9% if people carrying will never have to use their firearm to defende them selves, we carry just in case, reddots if well trained with them are faster and more accurate out to range, and if the user is competent, they are faster and more accurate at bad breath distances too.
I’m sure it’ll be fine carrying it with one in chamber but I feel you, it’s all comfortability at the end of the day, not sure if I’ll appendix it as well, but guess we’ll see, I decided to get one for concealed carry
Anyone that carries appendix has a potential decocker. Lol
Did the shield plus come out the box like that?
Like what?
@@9MilRidge - as is pictured in video
Yes except for the 15 round mag. I bought that separate.
Not a bad gun at all???THE BEST!!
I’m digging the reflex. I just sold my shield plus.
It's the perfect size.
Seemed like you preferred the shield
Both are solid excellent choices! Both will be in my carry rotation.
the FN is ambidextrous
Almost, the mag release can be switched but the slide release cannot.
🛡+ >G26/everything for EDC all day even with flush Mag it’s just better overall only need Tlr6🚫laser, just wish they’d of Kept the ultra reliable hinge trigger style tho but 10/13/15rd can’t beat it they need to make Oem 20rdrs which should be the standard for new 🔫designs nowadays
My brother has the reflex, it is horribly inaccurate. One out of a million bad apple im sure
The Smith is better i need that ASAP the 15 rounder is 🍌🍌🍌🍌🍌🍌🍌🍌
very odd you say that it has more recoil, the shield is the least recoiling carry gun
It's all about the shooter's perceived recoil impulse, not random opinions.