I went back and forth for a long time on all the micro 9s. I bought my daughter a hellcat pro and just told the guy at the gun store to get me a p365. I had buyers regret. But after owning this little guy for a few months now. I love it. I have big hands, no lady hands. I did change my grip a little so i didn’t shoot my finger off. But I got to say quality firearm. No remorse. I can carry all day everyday. Not a sig fan boy. I think a lot of the micro 9s are awesome. My daughter has a hellcat and a hellcat pro. Nice quality firearms. But I got to say I am pleased with this purchase. Live on a 210 acre farm. I can wear this in gym shorts or underwear when checking on animals, chickens or dogs barking. I just say you can’t go wrong with any of these micro 9s. Better to have one you can wear with anything than have to go to house or truck. Godbless
Just the comparison I was looking for! Thank you. I watched some of your other videos after watching this one and love your channel. Subscribed! Ps the scenery is amazing too
Really nice to see how you consistently shoot them back to back in order to get the best comparison possible, rather than how some guys would just put a single mag through both then talk for the rest of the day. Its interesting how you mentioned that the 365 was more snappy but it almost looked like the FN had more muzzle flip in your hands, but you did say you have been shooting it more lately. Thanks for the comparison since ive been looking at both of these! I think the 365 is just a great safe option but i reaaally want the FN.
I want the FN too. Very high quality and an American factory. Would like to see 6 pounds trigger pull but target shooters will probably be happier with the lighter pull. How far we've come. Shooters used to assume a safety on hammer fired - this is always cocked. Strikers have made us accept hammer fired/,no thumb safety as the new normal. Anyway strikers have made me a big fan of snap on snap off trigger trigger guard covers.
I have a P365 X Macro and a FN Reflex. Each has a Streamlight TL8-8 Sub light. Both great weapons. I use a Werkz M6 holster for both and its a great fit.
I love everything about the P365 except the trigger and grip angle. With these micro's the grip angle is pretty set by the ammo, but the trigger on a hammer fired sure sounds nice. I might have to find a place to check out the Reflex, they look sold out everywhere near me.
The P365 is amazing because with the FCU being the serialized actual firearm, you can easily change the grip to one you like better. And changing out the trigger is pretty easy as well.
I keep the 12 round flush mag in my 365 x and carry the 15 round extended mag in the sidecar. It’s so easy to conceal it’s crazy and ultra comfortable, easy to shoot and accurate as you can be. I love the p365
Ive realized holding any model of the FN-5 series always feels better than its compared competitors models. Haven’t held the reflex but it looks like a tank
Sig P395 might be sized for lady hands (and fine for men with accessory backstrap). Both are great. Thanks for addressing recoil and ease of slide racking. Is this Glock hand grip angle or 1911/XD?
So I’m in the throes of deciding which of these two fine pistols to purchase in the very near future- if you could only have one, which one would you buy - P365 or Reflex?
I've had 3 Reflexes (Long story) and all of them had problems. I bought it to replace my G43. I love the FN grip, I love the sights, and the trigger is pretty good from the factory. All of them had failure to feed problems. One would have a soft strike about every 3rd round. We tried 5 different types of ammo and 9 different magazines. We put about 200 rounds through each gun. All of them would shoot low left no matter who was shooting it. I put Holosun 507k red dots on 2 of them and I had the elevation up maxed out and it still wouldn't bring the POI up to POA. I put a laser bore sight cartridge in them and it would not line up with the iron sights. It showed low left on all of them. The same laser bore sight lined up perfectly in all of my other handguns. I sold 2 of them and the 3rd one has been at FN since September for repair, in hopes that I can at least have one good one. That was 3 months ago and it's still not fixed.
Not comparable in price at all, the fn with slide already cut for reddot has been going for 488. I haven’t seen a regular 365(no slide cut) for that cheap
Just got my P365 back from Sig last week for FTE. They replaced the barrel, ejector, & slide. 2 weeks ago I got my P365XL back from Sig for another dead trigger. 2nd time for dead trigger issue. Seems you can only get a few thousand rounds through these Sigs before they fail. But Sig's customer service is great & fixes them fast. Thanks Sig! I've also shot to death a Ruger LC9S Pro where Ruger replaced it with a pistol of my choice, a Ruger SR9C. Nice pistol! Then I had firing pin breakages on my 1st Gen CZ P10C where CZ sent me back a new 2nd Gen P10C which is a fantastic pistol as well. Thanks CZ! I'd like to find a small micro 9 pistol that can go 10,000 rds. before it fails. Anyone know of one that exists? Please let me know.
The Hellcat was put thru a 50,000 round torture test, and came out a champ…then they followed it up with a 10,000 round +P torture test…and again chewed’em all! I beleive it was “Handgun magazinell but you can google it for the test.
@@triggerman1092 Watched the story on gun magazines torture test of a hellcat….50,000 rounds no issues, then they ran another 10,000+P thru it! Lots of excellent choices out there.
@@triggerman1092 Thanks for the info. I did buy a PC Shield Plus with a 4" ported barrel and love even with its flaws (seems every pistol has them). And I've only had to send it back only once for repair, which was soon after I bought it, so something I assume was wrong from the start. And S&W will never tell you what they did to the pistol to fix it, unlike Ruger & Sig. We'll see how long the Shield Plus will go before I have to send it back. Was wondering about the Glock 48 & its longevity. Glocks are really expensive though after you change all the unlikable parts out. My Glock 20 is now past $1,000.00 for aftermarket trigger, barrel, Talon grips, & sights.
Was hoping to see accuracy comparisons. Two other tests had the Reflex shooting way low and left. Been interesting to see if this happens to yours as well.
I have and love my p365. I really want that fn reflex but I’d like it with a optics cut and a manual safety. I know, I know… I’m a 😿 for wanting the safety but having that on all my weapons just makes me feel better, is all.
It's not really about being a pussy, it's about adding an unnecessary variable when you're life is on the line. No safety = zero chance of accidentally leaving the safety on in an extremely high stress and time constrained situation.
Just held the reflex and grip feel is far superior to the SIG. I don't know what it is but the SIG just feels off in some way. Not terrible but there's just something not right. The Reflex just locks in and points so naturally.
I actually had the opposite experience today. I went in to the gun shop to buy the Reflex but wanted to check out the 365 before I did and the 365 felt better in my hand. Now I’m torn between the two but I think I know my answer. I don’t like the sleeve on the Reflex and the controls felt a little better on the 365. I do like the look of the Reflex better and I have been wanting an FN for years but for its purpose I got to think about the function.
I appreciate these types of reviews but ultimately, it is the fit in the hand that trumps everything else. In critical situations a few ounces of trigger pull either way makes absolutely no difference. It is also important to note, that FN Reflex has entirely different system from the majority of micro pistols. It is a hammer fired pistol therefore it is crucial to make sure that the side fully cycles to cock the hammer. Consequently, the use of heavier ammunition would be critical. With this said, I would wait awhile for more tests with FN Reflex
Trigger travel makes a big difference to me, not weight. I never realized how much of a difference it made until I got an SR9c which has a way shorter trigger than Glocks, XDs, and P365s. It just makes it so much easier to put accurate rounds on target quickly than the the normal, 3 day long striker fired trigger pull. So if the reflex has a trigger like that in a micro size, that's pretty damn appealing.
Lol no, reliability is what trumps everything else. Not how good it feels in your hand while you're sitting on your couch with the gun in one hand and playing with yourself with the other.
@@mecenas107 he did talk about reliability in the video, maybe your ears are full of wax. And anyone who is most concerned about how perfectly a grip fills their soft little hand is likely someone who spends too much time with something else filling their hand.
I have both and they are both very nice pistols, but maybe since I've been shooting the P365 longer, I prefer to carry it more often than the FM. As with everything firearms: carry and shoot what you like the best, what you shoot the best and be happy.
@@9MilRidge in all fairness, it will probably be perfectly reliable. I prefer not to buy a 1st generation gun. I wait for the second generation after minor unknown defects are corrected.
@@danielaramburo7648I prefer to buy a gun from a manufacturer that took the time to perfect their version of said class being a micro compact. Sig has a history of beta testing their new to market products on the general public, FN not so much.
Same, although nothing necessarily needs correction- at least it gives FN an opportunity to hear feedback from consumers. That is the only thing keeping me from buying now
I went back and forth for a long time on all the micro 9s. I bought my daughter a hellcat pro and just told the guy at the gun store to get me a p365. I had buyers regret. But after owning this little guy for a few months now. I love it. I have big hands, no lady hands. I did change my grip a little so i didn’t shoot my finger off. But I got to say quality firearm. No remorse. I can carry all day everyday. Not a sig fan boy. I think a lot of the micro 9s are awesome. My daughter has a hellcat and a hellcat pro. Nice quality firearms. But I got to say I am pleased with this purchase. Live on a 210 acre farm. I can wear this in gym shorts or underwear when checking on animals, chickens or dogs barking. I just say you can’t go wrong with any of these micro 9s. Better to have one you can wear with anything than have to go to house or truck. Godbless
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Just the comparison I was looking for! Thank you. I watched some of your other videos after watching this one and love your channel. Subscribed! Ps the scenery is amazing too
Great comparison thank you!
Really nice to see how you consistently shoot them back to back in order to get the best comparison possible, rather than how some guys would just put a single mag through both then talk for the rest of the day. Its interesting how you mentioned that the 365 was more snappy but it almost looked like the FN had more muzzle flip in your hands, but you did say you have been shooting it more lately. Thanks for the comparison since ive been looking at both of these! I think the 365 is just a great safe option but i reaaally want the FN.
I want the FN too. Very high quality and an American factory. Would like to see 6 pounds trigger pull but target shooters will probably be happier with the lighter pull. How far we've come. Shooters used to assume a safety on hammer fired - this is always cocked. Strikers have made us accept hammer fired/,no thumb safety as the new normal. Anyway strikers have made me a big fan of snap on snap off trigger trigger guard covers.
I appreciate that Sig allows you to install an external safety if desired.
Thanks for the vid. Helpful!
Awesome, glad I could help thanks for watching, stay safe keep on shooting!
I have a P365 X Macro and a FN Reflex. Each has a Streamlight TL8-8 Sub light. Both great weapons. I use a Werkz M6 holster for both and its a great fit.
Please compare the shield w the Flex. I’m curious which you prefer to shoot. Shield is bigger no doubt so shooting ability will be the decision maker
Great review and comparison for those that have shot or have the P365. I was curious about the FN being as snappy.
Chose the FN Reflex over the P365 because I already owned a Sig P320 XCompact. I love this gun and will be my EDC for a while now.
Nice. The P365 racking is a little hard like the P290RS. I like them both. But the Reflex is smooth.
I have a shield plus, little gun is a monster, thinking about getting the reflex mrd too though🤔
I love everything about the P365 except the trigger and grip angle. With these micro's the grip angle is pretty set by the ammo, but the trigger on a hammer fired sure sounds nice. I might have to find a place to check out the Reflex, they look sold out everywhere near me.
Exactly my experience. Traded my Sig for the FN with zero regrets.
The P365 is amazing because with the FCU being the serialized actual firearm, you can easily change the grip to one you like better. And changing out the trigger is pretty easy as well.
I keep the 12 round flush mag in my 365 x and carry the 15 round extended mag in the sidecar. It’s so easy to conceal it’s crazy and ultra comfortable, easy to shoot and accurate as you can be. I love the p365
The 365 is an excellent choice.
I agree . Love my 365x
I went shooting with two of my buddies who had brand new sig 365's and both of them had light primer strike issues within the first 50 rounds.
Were they original 365s?
Ive realized holding any model of the FN-5 series always feels better than its compared competitors models. Haven’t held the reflex but it looks like a tank
Sig P395 might be sized for lady hands (and fine for men with accessory backstrap). Both are great. Thanks for addressing recoil and ease of slide racking. Is this Glock hand grip angle or 1911/XD?
More 1911ish
Good video get the Hellcat pro comes with two 15 round flush fit magazines.
Hellcats are snappy
Hellcat pro, very good gun
So I’m in the throes of deciding which of these two fine pistols to purchase in the very near future- if you could only have one, which one would you buy - P365 or Reflex?
P365.
I've had 3 Reflexes (Long story) and all of them had problems. I bought it to replace my G43. I love the FN grip, I love the sights, and the trigger is pretty good from the factory. All of them had failure to feed problems. One would have a soft strike about every 3rd round. We tried 5 different types of ammo and 9 different magazines. We put about 200 rounds through each gun. All of them would shoot low left no matter who was shooting it. I put Holosun 507k red dots on 2 of them and I had the elevation up maxed out and it still wouldn't bring the POI up to POA. I put a laser bore sight cartridge in them and it would not line up with the iron sights. It showed low left on all of them. The same laser bore sight lined up perfectly in all of my other handguns. I sold 2 of them and the 3rd one has been at FN since September for repair, in hopes that I can at least have one good one. That was 3 months ago and it's still not fixed.
I have two of them and have not had issues at all.have both the non red dot comparable and the red dot comparable and they both run smoothly.
Now we need a comparison video with these two and the shield plus and hellcat
And the Canik Mc9
43x
Why
No we dont but these are far better
2 base models. I PAID 499 at asspro, reflex 599. Hmmm. I love my sig.
I’ve purchased quite a few guns from asspro too!! 😂
The reflex are down to 500 know and the 0365 are 459
Not comparable in price at all, the fn with slide already cut for reddot has been going for 488. I haven’t seen a regular 365(no slide cut) for that cheap
Reflex / better trigger , just get them both
How would you compare the fn reflex to a sig 365 spectre comp?
The Spectre comp still wins.
Thanks bub
Just got my P365 back from Sig last week for FTE. They replaced the barrel, ejector, & slide. 2 weeks ago I got my P365XL back from Sig for another dead trigger. 2nd time for dead trigger issue. Seems you can only get a few thousand rounds through these Sigs before they fail. But Sig's customer service is great & fixes them fast. Thanks Sig! I've also shot to death a Ruger LC9S Pro where Ruger replaced it with a pistol of my choice, a Ruger SR9C. Nice pistol! Then I had firing pin breakages on my 1st Gen CZ P10C where CZ sent me back a new 2nd Gen P10C which is a fantastic pistol as well. Thanks CZ! I'd like to find a small micro 9 pistol that can go 10,000 rds. before it fails. Anyone know of one that exists? Please let me know.
The Hellcat was put thru a 50,000 round torture test, and came out a champ…then they followed it up with a 10,000 round +P torture test…and again chewed’em all! I beleive it was “Handgun magazinell but you can google it for the test.
Shield plus is a badass! James yeager (rip) had one goimg strong at 15k
@@triggerman1092 Watched the story on gun magazines torture test of a hellcat….50,000 rounds no issues, then they ran another 10,000+P thru it! Lots of excellent choices out there.
@@triggerman1092 Thanks for the info. I did buy a PC Shield Plus with a 4" ported barrel and love even with its flaws (seems every pistol has them). And I've only had to send it back only once for repair, which was soon after I bought it, so something I assume was wrong from the start. And S&W will never tell you what they did to the pistol to fix it, unlike Ruger & Sig. We'll see how long the Shield Plus will go before I have to send it back. Was wondering about the Glock 48 & its longevity. Glocks are really expensive though after you change all the unlikable parts out. My Glock 20 is now past $1,000.00 for aftermarket trigger, barrel, Talon grips, & sights.
@@cowboyx9380 Thanks for that info. If you have a Hellcat, what has been your experience with it?
What holster are you using for the reflex
A Springfield hellcat holster. Fits it perfect.
Was hoping to see accuracy comparisons. Two other tests had the Reflex shooting way low and left. Been interesting to see if this happens to yours as well.
This has been a common question in his comments. I'm wondering if he's in it for his audience or his corporate donors
I have and love my p365. I really want that fn reflex but I’d like it with a optics cut and a manual safety. I know, I know… I’m a 😿 for wanting the safety but having that on all my weapons just makes me feel better, is all.
It's not really about being a pussy, it's about adding an unnecessary variable when you're life is on the line. No safety = zero chance of accidentally leaving the safety on in an extremely high stress and time constrained situation.
Safety on a spring loaded single action firing pin sitting behind a live round next to your junk isn't a bad idea.
I agree with you. With a hammer fired pistol, manual safety takes on even more important role.
You’re not a pussy for that brother. That just means you grew up with em like myself! Hunter safety course sticks with me after decades lol
Holy hell if I hear “…x plus one MAGAZINE…” one more time…
😂😂 Agreed! Got in a bad habit of saying that. Working on it!
Sig 365 is very easy to carry and conceal due to how thin it is.
It disappears, I have a ec9s which is pretty much only taller and it conceals way easier
Which one would you say has more recoil?
The SIG P365 has a tad more recoil.
Just held the reflex and grip feel is far superior to the SIG. I don't know what it is but the SIG just feels off in some way. Not terrible but there's just something not right. The Reflex just locks in and points so naturally.
If all you don't like in P365 is the grip size, you may want to buy a Wilson Combat grip module. It adds to the grip thickness considerably.
I actually had the opposite experience today. I went in to the gun shop to buy the Reflex but wanted to check out the 365 before I did and the 365 felt better in my hand. Now I’m torn between the two but I think I know my answer. I don’t like the sleeve on the Reflex and the controls felt a little better on the 365. I do like the look of the Reflex better and I have been wanting an FN for years but for its purpose I got to think about the function.
Does the reflex accept the same mags as the FN509 series?
No
@@9MilRidge Thanks.
Your welcome
I appreciate these types of reviews but ultimately, it is the fit in the hand that trumps everything else. In critical situations a few ounces of trigger pull either way makes absolutely no difference. It is also important to note, that FN Reflex has entirely different system from the majority of micro pistols. It is a hammer fired pistol therefore it is crucial to make sure that the side fully cycles to cock the hammer. Consequently, the use of heavier ammunition would be critical. With this said, I would wait awhile for more tests with FN Reflex
Good points!
Trigger travel makes a big difference to me, not weight. I never realized how much of a difference it made until I got an SR9c which has a way shorter trigger than Glocks, XDs, and P365s. It just makes it so much easier to put accurate rounds on target quickly than the the normal, 3 day long striker fired trigger pull. So if the reflex has a trigger like that in a micro size, that's pretty damn appealing.
Lol no, reliability is what trumps everything else. Not how good it feels in your hand while you're sitting on your couch with the gun in one hand and playing with yourself with the other.
Except the video did not discuss either reliability or playing with oneself. Perhaps you, can shed some light on one vs the other.
@@mecenas107 he did talk about reliability in the video, maybe your ears are full of wax. And anyone who is most concerned about how perfectly a grip fills their soft little hand is likely someone who spends too much time with something else filling their hand.
Good guns, second and third to the Canik mete mc9
Looking at both of these. I don't trust my new Jamcat.
Fn looks better but the sig is more accurate.
True
is the grip of reflex thicker than the p365?
Just a hair thicker.
@@9MilRidge thanks 🙏👍
Curious if the reflex has a tendency to shoot low left??
I have both and they are both very nice pistols, but maybe since I've been shooting the P365 longer, I prefer to carry it more often than the FM.
As with everything firearms: carry and shoot what you like the best, what you shoot the best and be happy.
I'll take both over a Glock 43 all day.
Neither have an ambi slide release on them so neither. Canik, CZ, Beretta, even the Kimber Mako all seem to be better options.
Left handed people's opinions don't matter
That’s actually something I like about them.
The Fn barrel is not an inch longer than the Sig. The two barrels are the same length.
They are close. The SIG is 3.1 in. And the reflex is 3.3.
@@9MilRidgeyou said a whole damn inch lmao
@@9MilRidge.2" is a far cry from the 1.0" you said in the video 🤡
The 365. The bugs have been worked out, the new FN has not.
I've had zero issues with over 500 rounds. Just cleaned it today and no abnormal wear. So far so good.
@@9MilRidge in all fairness, it will probably be perfectly reliable. I prefer not to buy a 1st generation gun. I wait for the second generation after minor unknown defects are corrected.
@@danielaramburo7648I prefer to buy a gun from a manufacturer that took the time to perfect their version of said class being a micro compact. Sig has a history of beta testing their new to market products on the general public, FN not so much.
What bugs does the FN have?
Same, although nothing necessarily needs correction- at least it gives FN an opportunity to hear feedback from consumers. That is the only thing keeping me from buying now
My 3" Model 60 Smith is a far superior weapon to either of these just in terms of shoot-ablilty not to mention stopping power.
Lol 5 rounds of slow to reload, neutered 357 is better than 12 rounds of fast to reload 9mm? Not sure what world you live in
Ill take the hi-point over these 2 any day
You rocking the yeet cannon?