Karajan could never keep up with Kleiber's depth of genius and Awakening, and the former....all he could say about the latter was snide. The Berlin would have been blessedto have Kleiber. There is only one Kleiber. I know he was the greatest conductor who ever lived. And one of the rarest musicians on the planet, if not the only one who knew with the innermost world of music, the spiritual world, the aestheitc source, was--he had residence there. No one else did to Kleiber's extent. End of story.
Jesus Christ the bickering about long dead conductors is fucking ASININE. No conductor was perfect and there is no such thing as THE greatest of all times, especially since there were so many great ones. What you said here is nothing more than a pile of pseudo-philosophical/profound nonsense. It has no way of being measured, the thing you talk about.
In fact, Karajan always appreciated Kleiber. He called him ''a gifted... a genius''. He was even willing to please Kleiber with every kind of eccentric request the latter could even impose before a concert or a festival (once, Kleiber asked for a luxurious car!!!). Besides, after Karajan's death and due to that controversial Celibidache's interview about his fellows, Carlos Kleiber pranked on Celi writing (on behalf of Toscanini's spirit) that all conductors in heaven (Walter, Toscanini, Kna, Böhn, Furt,...)... all of them were jealous of Karajan. What you said is terribly wrong. Karajan never hesitated about praising Kleiber's genius in conducting.
Kleiber was Enlightened. or close to it. Or else had access to Flow, a transcendent function of creativity, of life, the source of which is not mind, emotions, or body, but of CONSCIOUSNESS. If you find this outlandish, read Tolle. Read the research on Flow. We should start to do justice to Kleiber. All commentaries, analyses, fall far short of the mark. Musicians, and music lovers typically fall into this error, but they are too arrogant or specialized to know it. Tiresome lot.
So ein Wunder wird's in der Musikwelt nie wieder geben . Rest in peace, Carlos
Karajan could never keep up with Kleiber's depth of genius and Awakening, and the former....all he could say about the latter was snide. The Berlin would have been blessedto have Kleiber. There is only one Kleiber. I know he was the greatest conductor who ever lived. And one of the rarest musicians on the planet, if not the only one who knew with the innermost world of music, the spiritual world, the aestheitc source, was--he had residence there. No one else did to Kleiber's extent. End of story.
Jesus Christ the bickering about long dead conductors is fucking ASININE. No conductor was perfect and there is no such thing as THE greatest of all times, especially since there were so many great ones. What you said here is nothing more than a pile of pseudo-philosophical/profound nonsense. It has no way of being measured, the thing you talk about.
In fact, Karajan always appreciated Kleiber. He called him ''a gifted... a genius''. He was even willing to please Kleiber with every kind of eccentric request the latter could even impose before a concert or a festival (once, Kleiber asked for a luxurious car!!!). Besides, after Karajan's death and due to that controversial Celibidache's interview about his fellows, Carlos Kleiber pranked on Celi writing (on behalf of Toscanini's spirit) that all conductors in heaven (Walter, Toscanini, Kna, Böhn, Furt,...)... all of them were jealous of Karajan.
What you said is terribly wrong. Karajan never hesitated about praising Kleiber's genius in conducting.
Kleiber was Enlightened. or close to it. Or else had access to Flow, a transcendent function of creativity, of life, the source of which is not mind, emotions, or body, but of CONSCIOUSNESS. If you find this outlandish, read Tolle. Read the research on Flow. We should start to do justice to Kleiber. All commentaries, analyses, fall far short of the mark. Musicians, and music lovers typically fall into this error, but they are too arrogant or specialized to know it. Tiresome lot.