Paris called it on senior picture day back at Chilton, when she said she reseached the history of valedictorians and found them to not be doing so well in life.
yes!! it was so wonderful. and seeing how she took care of berta and showed such compassion to her children was so beautiful. it was amazing for emily’s growth
You’re telling me Rory, a Yale graduate and valedictorian from her HS prep Chilton, was too stupid to remember her boyfriend’s name and to break up with him for two whole years? And I expected her to hit some speed bumps along the way, but get back on track like she always did and make things happen. I watched once and cannot ever watch again it was so bad.
Pam Darone What I found problematic wasn't that she forgot to break up with Paul but that she regarded him with such disdain. The way she treated the poor man was bordering on sociopathic.
Yeah actually it’s a pretty bad “message” in the end. Work hard, do well in school, chase your dreams… and ultimately end up without a job living at home and knocked up.
It's also just super weird that she spends a good solid portion of the series taking advantage of her privilege but then she like throws it all away just to fail hard post college. She was insanely in love with Logan and clearly still is?? But wouldn't accept his proposal nor his connections to getting a good job. Newsflash, that is how high profile jobs work. She had LITERALLY EVERYTHING handed to her from day one and she still threw it all away and wants sympathy? Seriously?
Honestly I feel like they destroyed Rory’s character, Lorelai and Luke’s relationship was so lackluster, where the heck was Jackson?? I was quite unhappy with the reboot.
If a character is written off in a remake it probably means that the actor died or didn't want to do it. I imagine Suki is only in one scene too because she'd be much more expensive to hire than what she was when they made the show as her career has taken off since then.
Really? I now that i've rewatched everything is very racist. She's not colorful and dynamic she's the actor I hate in the show. Rude, callous, racist, and selfish
@@isabellalockwood5858 Oh she was always portrayed as racist. That was the whole point. But in the revival although she clearly still has problems she is one of the few characters that finally starts to grow. Meanwhile we get the hard reality of what small towns do to many people in the rest the characters. The whole point the revival was too show the other side of the fantasy of small towns and more generally the destruction of the 90s fantasy world.
@@isabellalockwood5858 but she treats her new maid and her family as family. They even move with her to Nantucket. The entire family. Kids and all. She is incredibly patient with them despite not knowing what she's saying or cooking or doing 90% of the time.
@@lindsayspates8907 i totally thought the same thing! id call her ignorant (and condescending in the original GG to all of her maids and anyone she deemed was below her aka who worked for her) more than anything. and instead of pressing for where berta was from she chose to stay in her ignorance but still managed to take care of them at the same time? it was really interesting to watch emily on the reboot
@@chloex2835 my favorite Emily moment was when she cried, "BULLSHIT" at the DAR interview and then quit. It was a beautiful moment. And I loved watching that trophy wife get burned. "And that dress didn't help!"
Let’s be honest that entire Netflix revival was shit. But sometimes things don’t work out and to be quite frank Rory has always been a bit selfish in her thought process especially with da boooyyyyyyzzz
@@shawnvagnier5107 her friendship with Lane pissed me off the most. There were even those filler episodes where Lane is like "you're not paying attention to me" to try and make up for it. I didn't bother finishing the revival; I couldn't handle it.
Not sure if you are aware but the actor who played Richard passed away in 2014 before these episodes were made. I'm glad they didn't try sticking another actor in his role.
Tbh that is the only time i hated lorelai. She knew her turn was coming and couldnt even think one memory about her father. Emily was rightfully pissed at her.
@@poppygloria4835 I hated her when she married Chris also. She just did it just to finally get married! As if it didn't matter who she marries as long ss she marries someone.
Yes yes yes!!! I'm rewatching the show for the 4th time and even tho she is "traumatized" because apparently her parents were so bad, years had past, their relationship improved somehow and she insists on being disrespectful. I hate how she continously treats them as the enemy, not giving them a chance.
I agree. Even in the last episode of season 7, they have a beautiful moment where he told her she must be an amazing human being. They were both in tears.
It struck me within the first five minutes that Rory was 32, the same age as her mother in the first episode in the first season. Her mother, who at age 32, had single handedly raised a 16 year old child accepted to a prestigious private academy, owned her own home, ran an entire business and planning to start her own inn, was in college at night also, was heavily involved and respected in her community, and even had a far more respectable love life complete with commitment and decent men who committed to her too. I found how they wrote adult Rory so disappointing, especially compared to her still striving and acheiving mother...and how well that mother raised her.
they should have made rory the way she was supposed to be.. in the end of the original show she was going on a tour with the president and had just graduated yale.
I never liked the way that Lorelai rode Logan's ass for being fed with a silver spoon, when, in truth, Rory was just as spoiled and entitled -and it shows in the way they portrayed her as an adult. I always felt like Rory just expected things to work out in her favor (even when she disregards someone's feelings) and when they didn't, she just whined the entire time.
How about the fact that Jess was in the revival for all of five minutes and he made EVERYTHING AND EVERYONE better, but got absolutely no credit whatsoever. We didn't get to find out about anything that he's been doing these past years and you know the whole looking longingly through the window at Rory... yeah we needed more of Jess!!
I wasn't a fan of Jess in the original show but the little we did see I liked until he was seen looking at her through the window in what I guess was supposed to be a pining way. By that point, I thought he deserved better than her.
I'm not sure what I think of him fawning over her...she definitely doesn't deserve him, and yet, I immediately began crying when he looked through the window like that. I don't know.
I was so upset because she has always been a little brat but he loves her and she should have grown up and realized it because he certainly did. He talked her into going back to college and got no credit or appreciation for it and he also came up with the idea to write the book and instead of getting credit, he got hate from Lorelai. Jess deserves better than her but if he wants her then he should have her because he brings out the beet in her.
her grandparents are rich, her mom is literally the best, the whole town constantly praises her- she had every opportunity in the world. she was so loved by everybody but she truly only looked out for herself. throughout the whole show, people would make so many sacrifices for HER and what'd she do with it? absolutely nothing
Are you kidding? She got the best GPA at the best high school in the country, she worked her ass off at Yale, she participated in her community throughout her entire life, she took care of her friends and family when they needed her, she helped Obama with his campaign run and presumably had a short career as a freelance journalist and then returned to Stars Hollow and wrote an entire book about her life. How is that nothing? The people who are upset with the revival have the same ridiculously unrealistic standards for her that she grew up with, when she had every right to pursue her own life path.
I didn't understood at all why Luke and Lorelei never talked in 9-10 years about children or marriage again as these were huge topics in general in the whole series. It makes no sense that this was never a topic between them in all this time. I expected a child/children and/or a wedding anniversary maybe and Rorys Marriage for example, with a complete new but handsome guy. I think I need to reed fanfictions :-)
I agree! Luke and Lorelai told each other even before they were together that they both wanted children if they found the right person. Also when Luke and Lorelai were finally together and Luke told her about buying the Twikham house, they talk about kids, He tells her he thought it would be a great house for their kids if thats what she wanted and she told him kids would be great. They really slacked in some aspects of the writing of this revival.
Marriage? 😂 These two are baby mamas and can't live with men. Seriously, though, any man who would marry either one of them is a simp. Luke is King Simp who Lorelai treats like a passing interest.
True, altough I always thought that the main reason he said that was because she spent most time of her internship kissing his behind, which was really cringeworthy to watch.
When Logan "cheated" on Rory with the bridesmaids she was inconsolable and wouldn't even speak to him, but when she slept with Dean when he was married that was okay. And sleeping with Logan while he is engaged to someone else is ok. I think our perfect princess Rory has always been on the selfish side. We were just blinded by the town's devotion to her. BTW I love the show. I think Rory got tossed into the real world where everything she did wasn't automatically perfect.
Nail on the head Plus people put their favorite characters on a pedestal and think they can do no wrong and no one wants to watch a show where the main character is selfish and has a terrible personality so they block it out.
@@whutdafeq1715 because Logan is not the reason she is the way she is lmao. She was a cheater b4 she got with him, was selfish, couldn’t take criticism , and didn’t want to admit that she had it easy. Logan is not at fault. He was a good boyfriend
I actually thought Lorelai’s reaction to Rory wanting to write a memoir about them was in character. She’s always been touchy about her upbringing and I can’t imagine her wanting that in black and white. Rory had the nerve to throw a tantrum when she didn’t even bother to consider Lorelai’s feelings. There were a few times in the original show where Rory ignored her Mother’s wishes when it came to her parents. This isn’t surprising because Rory has always been a bit spoiled and her Mother rarely says no or objects to what she wants. The book was advice she took from Jess who has a history of being careless with people’s feelings, including Rory’s. She’s been having a hard time finding work and she found no issue using her Mother’s story to make a buck. She can’t write a memoir without including Lorelai because there would be no story. Rory’s life is not really memorable; she hasn’t had a life yet.
Although I disagree that we should be oppressed from telling a story about our own lives just because it includes other people. She should've focused on her own side of it as Lorelai said but then again I actually thought Lorelai would be flattered and so happy that her daughter praises her so much that she'd want to write her story of triumph! I found it shockingly arrogant that she was offended and like... Way narcissistic in the fear of exposure. She needs to stop hiding and being worried what her parents think and just live.
That's exactly it, Rory felt entitled to tell Lorelai's story as her own. Plus with so many other people that'd be referenced Lorelai was completely right to be upset and not want that in an actual book form. Even the way she's structured the story to start with Lorelai leaving her parents says it all. Throughout the show, the writers have hinted at Rory kinda wanting to be Lorelai or even thinking she is Lorelai. So Lorelai's experiences are hers. Rory isn't a complete person on her own, and she's regressed completely. It may not be a happy ending but I like that the writer didn't shy away from showing that actually Rory is a bit weak, book smart but not the smartest, and very indecisive.
I think the problem with the revival was that it wasn't really a revival. It was the final season Amy Palladino originally wanted. Why else would these characters still be stuck where they were? Rory turned down Logan's proposal yet 10 years later she's helping him cheat on his fiance? It was nice to see the characters again but the whole thing was very badly done.
How about the general lack of happinesss... The original show is cheerful and puts you in a good mood. The revival is bleak. Also, teenage Rory would be disgusted by adult Rory. Not even the same person.
I didn't mind Emily's transformation as much because it looked as though she were able to find some peace outside of just being Richards wife. She found her own path and I feel like we got a little closure to her story. Rory was extremely pathetic all four episodes. She was less mature than she was when the series ended.
Tammy I feel like that was done on purpose though... Rory was always praised on how grown up and mature she was as a teenager, it serves that she would have taken that to heart a lot and stayed at that "mature" mindset, making it easy for her peers to outgrow her in return. It also adds in a little bit of the "child prodigy" phenomenon, where extremely smart children and teenagers tend to grow up to become mediocre adults. It fits that the adult Rory is lost and mixed up and didn't live up to her full potential; she was so smart as a teenager that she never really picked a direction and stuck to it. She was told she could do anything and kind of cracked under the pressure of that. Now she's scrambling to fix her life and decide what she really wants to do, one mistake after another.
it really is full circle. that jess rory logan storyline is exactly as lorelai chris and luke. in the series finale i thought rory broke it by following her dreams but the revival ruined it.
@@msmarsi009 the revival ruined her chance to be Rory but it also ruined her chance to be lorelai too. i mean she's 32 and has done nothing with her life unlike lorelai. i think her character could only be saved if she decides that she's not going to be a single mother.
The only way it would be “full circle” is if Rory was still really young. But 32 isn’t exactly “OMG what am I going to do? I’m gonna be a mother! My life is over” age.
It doesn't matter that Rory is pregnant. Almost poignant. But what we don't LIKE is HOW and that it quickly ended after the final four words were spoken.
This is the best comment in the thread. Because it couldn't be more true. When the life and death brigade came to "save" Rory, I thought it was a dream for like 15 minutes, I was waiting for her to wake up. Very odd.
my friend proposed the theory that the main show, gilmore girls is rory's book in tv show format and that she glorifies some of the events of her life and that the revival is their real life, which is why the characters in the revival are kind of different
that explains why lane got like 3minutes for her in the show. in s2 lane joines the school Cheerleaders bc Rory spent all her time with dean and she was feeling alone
I honestly think the whole show is just how Lorelai and Rory see the world... Do whatever they want, leave a trail of fire behind them, take no one else’s feelings into consideration and always find a way to justify down bad behavior. This revival solidified that...
Thats true. I love Luke and Lorelei together and always wanted them be a couple, but I also saw that Luke's wishes were never important. Always Lorelei got what she wanted... the house, the bed, his company at the town meetings/events (she never joined a camping trip), the marriage date..
I totally would love if they made a show about Emily. I'd LOVE to watch about her younger years, such as college-life, leading up to having Lorelai. She stole Richard away from his then-fiancée, Pennilyn Lott, and Richard's mother HATES her with a passion. Emily is such a perfectionist, and always gets her way. My favorite thing about watching Emily is when she starts opening up and showing vulnerability, but she realizes it, and snaps back into boss-bitch-mode. She's manipulative, demanding, controlling, and doesn't let anyone phase her. I'd say she's the best part of the revival who TRULY received a perfect closed chapter.
Omg this is so true. It really just dragged on and on and on!! I kept thinking "wtf is going on....why are we still watching this???" And it went absolutely nowhere. There was no point to it at all.
Rory dumped Dean for Jess who was awful (at that time anyway), had an affair with Dean, was friends w Benefits with Logan, ran to Jess and kissed him while she was with Logan... why are we surprised the girl is a mess? Not to mention her entitlement and whining while she was a teenager. People change, but not much. She was always going to be this way.
Right?? I didn’t understand why so many people thought so highly of her character (earlier in the show).. She was so annoying and selfish. Every decision she made was based on her own selfish instincts.
Seville Jabeen Yeah, that’s when I started to really dislike Rory. I was so confused though, so many people loved the idea of her and Jess and didn’t really mind that she CHEATED on Dean. I was soooo upset when her and Jess were starting to become a thing.
my main issue was the change in pace and cinematography, clearly the characters were also missing their original charm but the fact that they didn't attempt to follow in the footsteps of the original is such a shame
I also thought it was so weird that in the series logan would literally drop everything for Rory and pretty much wouldn’t even let them break up because he loved her so much but then he wouldn’t break up with his fiancé to be with her? it made no sense
Literally the worst ending I could have EVER imagined. Even the last damned scene was of the girls being shocked, not smiling. We don't even get to see an actual wedding or who Rory ends up with. So beyond disappointing.
ie, Rory changed so much and actually became worse.. I hate her character's development. I loved the Rory x Jess couple but seriously he deserves someone better.
Actually, laura, she had the affair with the married man BEFORE she met Logan and her attitude started then. It was when she left for college -- a full year before she met Logan.
No, I think she became a spoiled brat after Jess got into the picture. Not saying that she is a total brat when Jess and her dated, but she did cheat on Dean, and I still think Dean never figured out about that. I mean she skipped her mother's graduation!! Rory! And worst part, I don't think Lorelei ever punished her for anything she did. She never took punishment. I also hate the fact that Rory never owned up to any of her mistakes! None of them. I just felt like her character went backwards instead of forwards
laura marrero fabian that makes sense! All these amazing boys were falling for her and it was so easy for her to pull on strings for them to bow to her! I've never understood why! Dean was the perfect first boyfriend. He was loyal. Jess was a great bad boy and shared interests with her! Logan is the perfect rich guy I think we all once had crushes about. He was a good guy and Rory brought out the best in him, but was the bad guy, because he challenged her
I distinctly remember when Rory was feeling badly about the fallout with Lucy and was telling Richard about it. Richard encouraged Rory telling her something to the effect of that she was a person of "great character and heart." Seeing Rory in the revival made me think how disappointed he would have been with how she turned out with neither characteristic.
In less than ten years Paris went through four years of medical school, four years of OB-GYN residency, plus three more to become a reproductive subspecialist, then began practicing as a gynecologist, became a leading fertility doctor and also founded, owns and runs a surrogacy business that immediately grew into an international empire. How is this possible or am I the one who understood the wrong way?
my thoughts exactly. then I just decided to go with the ole suspension of belief/maybe I'm stupid, and just was happy one of them was doing something good for themselves even a little
I felt this was pretty on-brand for Paris, though. She was always a mover and shaker, going overboard to achieve her goals no matter what it took. She could've been exceptional and it took less time for her to get to where she was. She could've started on her breakthroughs/plans while studying and/or somehow the residency/subspecialist time was shortened cos she was just that good. idk but yeah I don't expect shows to stick to realistic timelines to the T especially for a side character. Plus didn't she say she also had an LLB and other stuff? I imagine she did a million things at the same time to achieve as much as possible. Very Paris.
Unlike Rory, Paris works her butt off and goes above and beyond to overachieve at everything she does. Not at all surprised by her success, or her divorce!
@@21crepes37 I agreed with Paris with this, but she also had two children while, I just thought it was all too much for Paris too, but I wrote this because I think the whole Revival was really undead on details.
Britney Blaird that’s true, I remembered her character so differently but have been watching the series with my daughter and at least once every episode I feel the need to point out that she is not a good person, she could be, she wants to be (I think?) but her selfishness always pops up in the end. It’s super evident with how she handles the Tristen thing and especially when it comes to Jess..that’s as far as we are at the moment.
I tought pretty much everyone agreed that that whole musical storyline was terrible. Sutton Foster and Christian Borle are ALWAYS a welcome addition to anything, but the writers should have given them something better to work with (and less screen time tbh, we wanted to spend as much time as possible wit our beloved characters)
Alissa Gail it was so long my friend invited me over to watch with her and it became awkward cause we just sat their wondering if we should laugh or skip it
I had a die hard family member fan tell me the fan theory that the memoir Rory wrote was the regular season run of the show. And the Year in the Life was her real life. It explains why everything goes so well for her in the regular run, but nothing does in the revival. Now I’ll rewatch the show with that in mind for a while new take on it.
@@jennrocchi6385 the rhythm was off. I always said GG was very musical in a way. The dialog always seemed chaotic but there was a beat and rhythm to it. A Year in the life seemed like a bunch of people doing impressions of characters.
i think the writers knew they were a hit too much and gave up. It didn't match the other seasons not one ep even. It was relying on the props too much and was too iconic border line felt like production was mocking it but the lines weren't great either so felt like writers too not taking it serious it shouldn't have been done. Perhaps just a catch up on Emily's life.
also the camera was different and done differently the movements were what you see in reality tv confused the viewer on what they were watching a reality tv show or gilmore girls because all the characters are the same it just feels different.
Even if there isn’t more episodes, we know what will happen with Rory. Jess will help and be their for her like Luke was and Logan will keep getting in the way like Chris
That is really interesting coz another parallel would be Logan shoving it in rory's face how she rejected his marriage proposal and an excuse for being a crappy dad like Christopher does
That's an interesting theory that I hadn't thought about. It does seem like we build up to a loop similar to Lorelai's trajectory. There are some slight differences, i.e. Logan actually knows how to be successful and actually does have money, and Jess--well, we don't know much about Jess at this point, but he is more inline with Rory compared to Luke and Lorelai's relationship...and Rory will have the priviledge of a mom who she has a good relationship with compared to Emily and Lorelai's relationship...but I supposed it is possible for history to repeat, regardless.
I agree , a few other / or the same things I HATED about it : - why did Luke & Lorelei go backwards in their relationship? - sookie would have never left the INN - Rory is a terrible person with no morals, she really had a terrible glow down as a character - Why didn’t we get to see the wedding ?!? - WHERE YOU LEAD … or song was taken away from us ! - I could go in for days but I have to learn for my finals ( lol ) But in general , the revival feels crazy and is so trashy like the whole color theme and I get that it’s 2016 but people simply don’t change like this esp. Babette or Ms Patty who were older It feels like the writers didn’t even watch the original Gilmore girls series and just continued with something else
acuyuta I thought the same thing but it felt similar as when they opened the Stars Hollow History Museum on the original Show and the Audiovisual show started, I felt like it made reference to that.
why did they even add that scene tristan didn't graduate from chilton there's no reason for him to be there. esp when chad michael murray isn't playing him.
I actually loved Rory's struggles with a job. Everybody several times in a life has a breakdown, where one acts completely opposite as one has in a character and is unprofessional. She was a prodigy her whole young life in a safe and controlled environment which is school. This is her major breakdown. If the series continues, I'm curious how she handles it.
it's so weird, like, Rory was such a role model in the earlier episodes, yeah she had her flaws but as a whole she was great. but in the revival i couldn't stand most of the scenes she was in. it's almost like Alexis changed too much to play the same character. also the character turned into such a hypocritical, whiny and immature person, she didn't take responsibility when she screwed up, and all she did in the revival was screw up. also, too many unanswered questions
Emily became the most magnificent BAMF, it was a pleasure to watch. And there were some really great Lorali / Emily moments too (short lived, but nice!)
Rory bombing her interviews really bothered me. She's a college educated woman and couldn't come up with any answer better than, "because I want it," when asked why she should be hired for the job. Wtf, Rory. Hardworking rory who wouldn't take no for an answer when she wanted her newspaper job back while she was at yale, couldn't get hired by people who actually wanted her.
Because Rory is entitled. She has a degree from Yale and she wrote a few pieces that got exposure; and she let it get to her head because everyone has told her in her life that she is "special". Not surprised about how she turned out
Honestly, she didn't want those jobs. Remember, Jess reminding Rory about passion and trying to find it and she mocks, but is actually serious when she says, "What is that foreign concept you speak of, passion, is that really a thing?" She didn't realize it yet, but she had lost her love for reporting. She isn't someone who can lie easily on spot, so of course. And also she was probably subconsciously forgetting to be prepared if she's truly lost her love for reporting...that's just her, if she's not passionate about her work it is hard for her to jump back up.
I think she had her best times while being at Chilton and Yale. She had all the support of glorious and super witty Lorelei, she had everything she wanted. No one is going to appreciate her more than Lorelei and her character is unable to develop a really deep relationship with anyone other than her mom. I am not surprised she wants to write a book about those times. At this point I think having such strong connection with Lorelei actually blocked her social skills with other people.
in the end, the revival proved that Logan's father WAS right. she doesnt have what it takes to be a good reporter... [the scene where she interviews the people in line, cmon. I am younger than her, am also a journalist, and would never, ever, ever, do shitty questions like that..]
Lulu had like a 3 minute scene and she looked the exact same! she's the same age as Alexis Bledel, Lulu is supposed to be a bit older than Rory and in the revival she's supposed to be like 36 and she looked 28, Rory is supposed to be 32 she looked like 40.
I feel like Emily not being able to communicate with her staff has been a norm. And if you look at Emily’s background, it makes sense. I don’t think it was making fun of broken English so much as showing Emily as she’s always been, but also leads in to her character development. She ends up growing so much in the four episodes of the revival.
Same, I also hated how she was just letting a nanny raise her kids, when she clearly resented her parents in the original series for doing that to her.
Yeah! That was like the awful theme that ASP seemed to want for the revival for some reason-that everything is full circa and every girl ends up like her mum: Rory gets pregnant at a bad time in her life, lane is still living in SH working for Kim's Antiques and Paris lets her nanny raise her children while she puts her children through hell over her messy divorce. Why was she so hell bent on having such a depressing ending for the show!
You know I never really thought about it but that is even more frustrating. She isn't promoting learning from your parents mistakes but instead turning out just like your mother. There are a lot of kids who don't end up just like their parents.
The whole musical scene from start to finish was actually 18 minutes long, I timed it because I was shocked at how long it went on for. I included the whole amount of time they spent in miss Patti's talking about it as well as watching it. 18 minutes devoted to something that really has no bearing on the show seems like such a waste.
I'm a massive fan of musicals and I love Christian Borle and Sutton Foster... but man was that whole musical shtick a drag (it genuinely felt like it would never end)
Honestly. I loved this season. It was so realistic. I don't know why people keep saying that it's not like Rory to not have a career or to turn down the headmaster at Chilton. It DEFINITELY is. She's always been so head on with her decisions and kind of selfish. In the later season she turned away internships and jobs for the one internship she swore she was going to get. She was bound to fail in life because she never knew how to except the second best. Ever. It was not unlike her character to have a one night stand either. Girls like Rory who are stuck in relationships their whole life tend to lose themselves romantically. I feel like her character is SO realistic and people can't accept it because it's not story book written. She's a shitty character in a story book but in real life she's just like the rest of us.
They say the best revenge is living a good life, and I'm glad Dean got to tell Rori about his good life. Nice work Dean. She broke your heart twice but you still came out the winner. 👏🏼
Sarah Jean he broke up with her because she was being a horrible person. first he said he loved her and she didn’t say it back so obviously he would be upset and not want to be with her. the second time she didn’t like him anymore and was just stringing him along. she flirted with jess every time she saw him and it was obvious that she had a crush on him and was done with dean. so yes, dean broke up with her, but for very good reasons.
he broke up with her both times bc she was treating him like shit and stringing him along, and she was too weak and unbothered to do the right thing and end the relationship.
If you think about it, Rory was never even that great in the original series either. Couldnt handle five classes at Yale even though she never really needed a job, dropped out of Yale after one piece of criticism (something journalists get a lot of)... She was always pretty thin skinned for someone who wanted to a journalist.
she was a really awful person all along and wasn't that special and the fact that everyone praised her for doing the bare minimum was so annoying to me. and what happened in the revival is really what she had coming after all those years of having everything handed to her and being a mediocre and average person who just happened to have wealthy relatives.
The whole revival shouldn't have happened. I remember when I first watched it, finished rewatching the series, then Netflix automatically continued with the revival. It was a deep dive into depression that ruined the whole thing for me.... -.-"
The biggest thing I did not like about the revival was Logan's story. He was completely in love with Rory and in Season 7 you really saw him grow up from an entitled boy to a more responsible man. He broke away from his father and the business and set out on his own. He never would have been engaged to someone he didn't love and have Rory on the side. He would not have worked for his father's company. ASP just made him into an asshole to make Jess look better, and that's not fair. I know she didn't write Season 7, but she should have paid more attention to what happened.
ASP, didn't write season 7..She had no part in it. So, his development in that season never was where she wanted that character to go. That isn't what she invisioned. Ergo it's almost like season 7 doesn't count.
I totally agree! It made me angry that she never watched season seven because there was character développement and storylines totally ignored ! And I am always team Logan! So it was hard to watch :(
Kadian Gordon but we need to remember that Rory refuse to marry Logan... he tried the best he could to build a life for both of them outside his family, but she rejected his proposal so it makes sense for him to align with his family as the years passed by. She had her chance to make a life with him, but as with anything else, she chose to go the unhappy way
I don't know, but when i watch the "old" series, i feel good and powerful, when i watched the first episodes of this revival, i just felt old and depressed...sorry, the thought was good, but some things just need to come to an end, period...
3 kids another on the way yes he and a wife did better then anyone on the show for the 3 Mins he was on. I am happy about what they did it was short but sweet at the same time and anyway Jared had too get back too his other job he has been doing for 12 seasons now so there is that.
tbh every time I read Dean I just picture Jensen Ackles, but then I have to remember the Video is about Gilmore Girls and not Supernatural and that Jared is Dean instead of Sam.
I still wish Rory chose Dean because he did everything right for her, he is more "husband material" than Logan or Jess. Although, Jess is the character that has evolved & changed the most. He is more mature & wiser now. I love that he respects Luke more & he cares more about what Rory wants. In the earlier seasons, he was bratty, disrespectful, impulsive & only cared about his own needs. He wanted Rory to drop out of Yale & run away with him, not caring that she would be leaving behind her own dreams & her mom. I was so happy that Rory stood her ground with him.I always knew Dean would be married regardless of whether he ended up with Rory or not. He really was a good guy (minus the Lindsay infidelity debacle.)
Nikka Rose I was thinking they was perfect together too but the way it ending kind of sucks. So how they did it with Dean moving on with his life was great he has a family that he wanted and poor Rory her life is going to be messed up and I think Logan is the father of her baby but I do not think he is going too marry her because he was with another woman so Rory is going to be a single parent and that is sad.
I agree with you, but I didn't want Dean and Rory to be togheter... as you said Dean did everything for her, just like in Rory's whole life she got everything without doing a thing for them - I guess that's why she became what she is now. She was spoiled!
One of the things I liked *most* about the revival was how consistent Rory's character was with the original and the natural progression of consequences that followed. I don't get why this video insists that her character changed somehow. She's always been entitled. She's always cheated on her boyfriends. She's always been able to adjust her moral compass to whatever suits her. She's a brat.
Or the way she reacted on what logan's father told her. The old rory would prove him wrong, and work even harder but she just become so offended, because she thought that everybody in her life will praise her or be nice to her because she is 'gilmore' and everybody should love her like they did so far, don't get me wrong i do not hate her but she did become entitled
I think what people dislike about it the most is that she's so talented and bright and privileged- and yet she ends up adrift. It doesn't fit the narrative we are taught in childhood and it scares people that they could be Rory. Plus cheating doesn't sit well with most people, even if it is part of her character
To be perfectly honest I loved and enjoyed the revival. It was far from perfect but there were so many great things about it! The one thing I did not like was the relationship of Lorelai and Luke. They were supposedly in a relationship for 10 years + and they STILL don't communicate well, they didn't develop as a couple, they didn't get married and they didn't even discussed the possibility of having children. They clearly wanted to have children during the OG run of the show.
Agree but Its in line with their rocky relationship in the later seasons, especially the final season without asp and they had Lorelei go back to Christopher for no good reason but have them go fisticuffs throughout stars hollow when we already saw that with dean and jess.
@@ZaddyZavid i feel like the writers thought their relationship didn’t have too many problems and were worried it was going to be boring or something idk? Lorelei and Luke literally were perfect for each other. Everyone knew and supported them why couldn’t they write them to be an actual heather couple that is SUCH A MISSED OPPORTUNITY. They had a lot of issues that could be fixed with communication which they could’ve learned together throughout these years and be able to voice their wants and needs which was LITERALLY THE MAIN REASON WHY IT TOOK THE TWO SO LONG TO BE WITH ONE ANOTHER.
I can understand why Lane is following her mom's footsteps because her whole journey of life changed when she got pregnant. Her character realized what she did value as important and that's perfectly OK that she chose this path over her original journey. Rory's path honestly makes sense to me as I am now almost 30 and I felt pretty lost throughout my 20s..
The general vibe of a year in the life was so disappointing. Gilmore girls always felt happy and almost warm, if that makes sense, but The new series felt cold and distant. They should've given more 90's/00's nostalgia because realistically that's what a year in the life was made for. Poeple wanted to see them again and go back, but it wasn't the same.
The four episode hour and a half format was a large part of it. Game of Thrones had the same problem when episode numbers got reduced. It brought out the weaknesses that were always there in both series. They just became more noticeable in the different way the writing works. Its why movies aren't as good as TV. Think about the fact that both shows had movie length episodes in comparison to their earlier shows and seasons.
Cold and distant, perfectly said, ( kind of like running into someone you haven't seen in a while but wanted to avoid.) the vibe was sooooo bad, soooo cold, in a show that has always been warm and cozy and a safe place. 🐻
I got that vibe too. I feel like a lot of it had to do with the color tones in the show and also the camera movements/angles. The cinematography just wasn't the same, it was modernized in a way. I wish they wouldn't have done that
I HATED what they did to EMILY....She might have mellowed a bit but NEVER EVER to that extent.... The producers just copied her character in the series BUN HEADS....!!!
I hate that the writers treated like FOOLS, Rory's "brokenness" didn't make sense. Christopher is insanely rich (to the point where he's mentioned he doesn't know what to do with it many times). Plus, if Richard left Luke some money imagine what he left Rory. I hate that they didn't acknowledge any of this. Rory probably has access to millions and the fact she considered herself homeless enough to move back to SH instead of getting her own place? Even the way they referenced her apartment in Brooklyn. There was also the scene in S7 where Richard & Emily were considering getting an apartment on the Upper East Side.. Rory may not have been successful by any means but I'd still count her as filthy rich.
Even though the revival was terrible.. I loved the fact that the song that was playing when Lorelai and Luke were getting married was the same song that was playing when they danced for the first time at Liz’s wedding. It was a beautiful song
My main problem with the revival was since it was written for the original series 10 years ago most of the plot didn't make sense for what it probably should have been. For example Logan and Rory still sleeping together? I feel that they wouldn't still be seeing each other 10 years after their breakup. The revival just seemed off and I think the characters would have developed differently in 10 years.
darcy phillips Yes! I thought the same thing! this would have kind of made sense back then. It's like the writer finally got to do the episode she originally intended but it's lost us
darcy phillips my taughts exactly.. they really mislead us.. we should think of this like a year later.. not ten! at least rory's (without the Paul thing), logan's, Dean's, jess's, lorelai and Luke's storyline would make sense.. not so for lane's, paris's, sookie's, April's.. Emily's I loved.. Michel's was so so.. the musical I keep forwarding every time I have seen the revival.. it's just a mess!
I never realized this storyline was written to follow directly after the original show 10 years ago... that makes SO much more sense. That makes Rory's pregnancy SO much more meaningful, too. There's a huge difference between 30 year old Rory making a mess and getting pregnant... and Rory getting pregnant in college. That would change the entire context of the situation, given Lorelei got pregnant in highschool and Rory would've been practically a kid still like she was when she had her... 30s Rory getting pregnant was not that impactful?!
The revival felt very gloomy. I think it was trying to be nostalgic but it really just made me sad apart from a few scenes. OG Gilmore Girls was almost always happy and promoted better messages too
Even tho I *hated* season 7 and had a hard time watching it I do love the final, I thought it was soooo sweet to throw Rory a goodbye party, having every single person who cares about her (minus her had bc that douche only cares about her when it's convenient) wish her luck and tell her how happy and proud they are of her (also Luke being the sweetest guy ever). Sadly I was really disappointed with the revival, I thought it was going to be about Rory being pregnant and having to deal with all of that but with the help of her mom (in contrast with Lorelai's situation) idk, kinda bummed out tbh
Jess was the only person who told Rory when she needed to get herself together and didn't sugar coat. I think he would have been the best for her. Everyone else just let's her not have accountability for her choices/lack of smart choices. She remained so stagnant. How disgusting that she dragged Paul along, had a one night stand and was sleeping with Logan.
Linda Orwoll me too.. now she's pregnant and essentially it could be one of 3 guys I didn't think she was that girl.. I really wanted get to get back together with Jason.. I'm guessing Jason is supposed to be like Luke and Logan is supposed to be like Christopher..
All seasons lead to us thinking Rory was going to be a success, but it seems to me script writers got lazy and just scrambled together four episodes because of the demand of the fans. I know Stars Hollow is fantasy, but still you’d think the writers would have had more consideration for the fans. Very disappointing!!!
She's meant to have growth. If she's prefect then they're can be no development. But she might be pregnant with another couples baby, using Paris' company. It might even be Luke and Lorali's, there might be a surprise they chose not to show the audience.
Hayley Boo Yes She has to grow and be her own woman but with every episode up until this last season showing us That Rory’s life was going to be different from her moms, they could have had different difficult story lines to show her growing into a young woman and not ending up yet another single mother ( or ending up in a marriage she maybe didn’t want!) but everyone seemed to have completely different personalities & opinions this time around I suppose anything was possible, all I can say is I was VERY DISAPPOINTED, Kelly Bishop was the only one I enjoyed watching this time around!
I agree with this but I think the worst one was we’re Lorelai couldn’t say anything nice about her father. I mean he paid for Rorys school and he brought her the doll house that her mom was gonna give away. She loved her dad and had a good connection with him. I just think that was truly dumb
The ONLY bright spots in this series- the reconciliation between Lorelai and Emily at long last, Emily's development in the wake of Richard's death, and honestly EVERYTHING about Emily's arc was so good. I REALLY wish the rest had even half as much quality to it.
Amy Sherman-Palladino seems to have rushed through the script just to fulfill her contractual obligations . This commentary is spot on and raises all the issues that we saw in the revival . Lackluster script, conflicting stories, etc.
Why wasn't Emily at Lorelai's wedding? That's really out of character, especially after we find out how much it means to her like when she finds out about the wedding to Max and eloping with Chris.
They were having a full wedding ceremony the next morning, which Emily was going to attend. It's fitting for Emily to not be present at the impromptu, intimate wedding, as she wasn't always supportive of the relationship. What I really find terrible is that Sookie wasn't present.
My thoughts exactly!!! This pissed me off so much. Somehow it was okay to wake up Lane and Michel (sp??) in the middle of the night but Emily wasn't??? Sure, she probably would've initially been put off by doing it that way, but she would've realized that Lorelai never does things "how she's supposed to." I'm sure she'd have felt so happy to finally see her only child get married!!!! Emily's arc was incredible and she changed in a positive way... and basically deserved so much better.
Emily was on Nantucket Island (was it Nantucket or Martha's Vineyard?). She wouldn't have been able to make it to Stars Hollow in an instant. Lane and Michel were the only ones in Stars Hollow at that time.
sunshaped That's what gets me. even if she wasn't there for the impromptu wedding, it didn't look like she have any plans of travelling - like attending the wedding the next day.
I do have to say, I think Richard's death took a huge toll on Rory. She was successful, writing for the New Yorker and traveling overseas for work before he died, then after his death she just wasn't the same. I think his death impacted her and she's flailing without her guidepost. As much as her mom means to her, her grandfather was always the beacon she followed. He always supported her. Rory is lost without him. Emily grew and was able to learn to live without him, but never forgetting him. That's why Rory chooses to write in her grandfathers study. she needs him. I think they will get Rory back on track with the book she's writing and the baby. Which I believe will be a boy named Richard.
I saw that too, everyone lost their way after Richard's death. But maternity and a new career as a writter as the new grown up Rory. And Jess as Rory's Luke.
yeah.. it will be exciting id rory has a baby boy.. after all the gilmore girls... emily lorlei and rory.. it would nice to shift the focus on a boy raised by these women...
A lot of comments and people are missing the point: Rory ISN'T perfect. She was always told how great and amazing and smart she was , she was spoiled, reality would hit her sooner or later. Her not succeeding in life is 1000 times more satisfying that her being little miss perfect and it is VERY real. A lot of people are still lost and struggling at 32. She is the opposite of her mother, who at that age had so much for her. Lorelai was a friiend first and mother second to Rory, which was a fatal flaw.
There were other things I didn't like about the revival: Can we talk about Jess? He was not a nice character at first in the original but he had such an evolution through the seasons. He did everything he wanted to do but everyone doubted, and then, at the end, he looks to Rory like he's not over her and would come back if she asked to. Jess deserves so much more. And also, where are Lis and TJ? Them and their baby were such a big part of Luke's life by the end of the show and they weren't even mentioned! And still talking about Luke's family: What the heck happened to April? She was such a nice, smart girl... Completely out of character and I get they wanted to show her struggling through something, but they didn't explore it. And also the fact that Rory was super uncomfortable talking with her. It was just too weird.
4:07 shes speaking spanish and Rory should know it. She was speaking to one of the maids in Spanish while she lived with her grandparents and started helping the maid a little as they spoke right before her grandmother walked in and asked Rory if the maid asked her to help.
It seems like an oddly harder to understand form of Spanish for some reason? But you're right, the scene where Rory speaks Spanish with the maid in the original series is one of my favorites. It seems like they sort of lost that cool, unpretentious vibe in the revival.
Native Spanish speaker here. That's a Spanish-like language, but not proper Spanish. It has a lot of Mexican slang elements though. But it's not an actual language and that's the whole joke.
@@ElCharolin It may not have been the writers' intent (I doubt that it was) but in the revival it just feels like Rory is being slightly snobbish. Which I feel that the Rory of the original series would never do. However, Emily seemed to be more accepting and less judgmental in the revival which was kind of a nice change. I think what felt weird about it for me, was the way it was executed the second time around. It felt ambiguous as to whether Rory / the Girlmore Girls were "looking down" on the housekeeper for her way of speaking. For me it was better when Rory jumped in and spoke her best Spanish in the original and demonstrated that Emily's snobbery and xenophobic attitude was not cool.
It was nice in the original because she treated the help as real people. Also the actress is Latina of Argentinian descent. Emily was much better, I believe she was in Richard's shadow.
Is it just me or did anyone else hate Rory for most of the revival episodes and some of the time in Gilmore Girls? Around the time she when to college she acted like everything should fall in place for her and she would talk behind the backs of anyone who was prettier. Rory acted like she was just a nice innocent girl when she would write horrible pieces about other people, she also cheated multiple times either with someone she was with or she would be the other girl. Anyone else miss the Chilton Rory?
I've never really thought about why but my favourite seasons are when Rory is still in high school and maybe a little bit of her first year or two of college. Maybe it just got to dramatic and contrived. I think it was at the point when Rory dropped out of Yale and was living with her Grandparents that I hated it the most but then again I think we were supposed to.
I assume Revival Rory was supposed to represent all the self-involved, narcissistic and entitled millennial brats we read of repeatedly. Otherwise, I don't see the point of her character.
I just can’t believe that Lane is still in that tiny apartment. That was only bit where I was really like NO. Not believable. Not acceptable. No major problems with the rest. 🤷♀️
Also - Luke's entire personality being replaced with being clueless and kinda dumb and being dragged along by the other characters. Not knowing how surrogacy works, not saying anything to Emily about not wanting to franchise the dinner, knowing things weren't right with Lorelai but ignoring it, the whole "that's the kid" scene?
I didn't like the musical either, but I think it is typical Stars Hollow. Taylor Dosse was always trying to have new events in the town to bring in tourists and tourism dollars, like the Twickenham Museum, changi6the street names, the Festival of Art(?), the maze, etc.
I think I wanted it to be so much more than it was. During the classic episodes I was so disappointed they wrote Rory being so selfish and it just got worse. This revival was going to fix it, except it didn't. She made the same choices. In the end I was seeing this through nostalgic glasses. That was the charm for me.
I didn't think Rory's entitlement was out of character. Starting from her 2nd year of college (basically when she started dating Logan), she started getting very entitled. This was totally a natural progression actually. Still disappointing to see her that way though.
Christina Gmiterko totally agree. I saw her start to change as early as the third season. She just started to become a spoiled brat but started to get so much worse once she went to Yale.
I love Logan but I totally agree as soon as they started dating she started changing and being rude to her mother!! they were so close and she was so mean to her it didn't make any sense to me
I hated seeing her being Logan's mistress and having his baby- did she learn NOTHING from her mother???? Lorelei would have never wanted Rory to have to be a single mother- it's just how life ended up for her....even though they made it alright. But Rory is not her mother and is definitely the more co-dependant type which is fine if she would admit it. I don't like Logan and her together personally but I do think if this is where she was going to end up it would have been way better for everyone if she had just married him.
I hate that Rory did not accept Logans proposal of marriage. They could have had a long engagement and she could have still done all those life experiences. She ends up carrying his baby anyway...
Paris called it on senior picture day back at Chilton, when she said she reseached the history of valedictorians and found them to not be doing so well in life.
Yes. I always thought that was a telling sign.
@@anachitimus1292 Mitchum Huntzberger called it when he told her she didn't "have it." No one wanted that to be true but apparently, it was.
shit your abs right
Omg I was thinking the same thing. Perhaps they portrayed Rory like this to show the reality of what happens to most valedictorians.
@@mementomolly2944 but that doesn’t happen to most valedictorian yale attendees. This revival just didn’t make sense
can we just talk abt the fact emily kept a maid for the WHOLE year...
yes!! it was so wonderful. and seeing how she took care of berta and showed such compassion to her children was so beautiful. it was amazing for emily’s growth
yeah that was kinda the point... to show her change
It’s amazing... I can’t even with that.
YAYYY
Insane, it has never happened before!
You’re telling me Rory, a Yale graduate and valedictorian from her HS prep Chilton, was too stupid to remember her boyfriend’s name and to break up with him for two whole years? And I expected her to hit some speed bumps along the way, but get back on track like she always did and make things happen. I watched once and cannot ever watch again it was so bad.
Pam Darone What I found problematic wasn't that she forgot to break up with Paul but that she regarded him with such disdain. The way she treated the poor man was bordering on sociopathic.
Yeah actually it’s a pretty bad “message” in the end. Work hard, do well in school, chase your dreams… and ultimately end up without a job living at home and knocked up.
It really did suck
100%
It's also just super weird that she spends a good solid portion of the series taking advantage of her privilege but then she like throws it all away just to fail hard post college. She was insanely in love with Logan and clearly still is?? But wouldn't accept his proposal nor his connections to getting a good job. Newsflash, that is how high profile jobs work. She had LITERALLY EVERYTHING handed to her from day one and she still threw it all away and wants sympathy? Seriously?
Honestly I feel like they destroyed Rory’s character, Lorelai and Luke’s relationship was so lackluster, where the heck was Jackson?? I was quite unhappy with the reboot.
Then you weren't paying attention... He was there
If a character is written off in a remake it probably means that the actor died or didn't want to do it. I imagine Suki is only in one scene too because she'd be much more expensive to hire than what she was when they made the show as her career has taken off since then.
Jackson was in an episode, probably the summer one and Lorelai asked him where Sookie was.
@@Ritsukaberry Yes, but still, he and Sookie weren't "really" there.
Ehhhh, I felt like it was pretty reflective of Rory’s character all along. She was always pretty self absorbed and entitled.
the only thing I loved was Emily. she has really blossomed and become more colorful and very dynamic
Really? I now that i've rewatched everything is very racist. She's not colorful and dynamic she's the actor I hate in the show. Rude, callous, racist, and selfish
@@isabellalockwood5858 Oh she was always portrayed as racist. That was the whole point. But in the revival although she clearly still has problems she is one of the few characters that finally starts to grow. Meanwhile we get the hard reality of what small towns do to many people in the rest the characters. The whole point the revival was too show the other side of the fantasy of small towns and more generally the destruction of the 90s fantasy world.
@@isabellalockwood5858 but she treats her new maid and her family as family. They even move with her to Nantucket. The entire family. Kids and all. She is incredibly patient with them despite not knowing what she's saying or cooking or doing 90% of the time.
@@lindsayspates8907 i totally thought the same thing! id call her ignorant (and condescending in the original GG to all of her maids and anyone she deemed was below her aka who worked for her) more than anything. and instead of pressing for where berta was from she chose to stay in her ignorance but still managed to take care of them at the same time? it was really interesting to watch emily on the reboot
@@chloex2835 my favorite Emily moment was when she cried, "BULLSHIT" at the DAR interview and then quit. It was a beautiful moment. And I loved watching that trophy wife get burned. "And that dress didn't help!"
Rory- "I'm so desperate. I can't find a job."
Dean at Chilton offers her a job
Rory- "Thanks. But no thanks."
Monte Amelia a career that requires a masters degree...
Let’s be honest that entire Netflix revival was shit. But sometimes things don’t work out and to be quite frank Rory has always been a bit selfish in her thought process especially with da boooyyyyyyzzz
@@shawnvagnier5107 her friendship with Lane pissed me off the most. There were even those filler episodes where Lane is like "you're not paying attention to me" to try and make up for it. I didn't bother finishing the revival; I couldn't handle it.
Well let’s just say the four words Amy wanted for the shows last line happened, and it was unfortunate
She needed to go back to school for her masters to teach @ Childon
Can we talk about how Richard never get to walk Lorelai down the aisle 💔
Not sure if you are aware but the actor who played Richard passed away in 2014 before these episodes were made. I'm glad they didn't try sticking another actor in his role.
😭😭😭😭
@@phishlady79 They could have had them marry off screen. It makes no sense that they hadn't been married yet.
I think that Lorelai's OBNOXIOUSNESS at Richard's funeral totally deserved a mention. Like, WHAT WAS SHE THINKING?????
Tbh that is the only time i hated lorelai. She knew her turn was coming and couldnt even think one memory about her father. Emily was rightfully pissed at her.
@@poppygloria4835 I hated her when she married Chris also. She just did it just to finally get married! As if it didn't matter who she marries as long ss she marries someone.
Yes yes yes!!! I'm rewatching the show for the 4th time and even tho she is "traumatized" because apparently her parents were so bad, years had past, their relationship improved somehow and she insists on being disrespectful. I hate how she continously treats them as the enemy, not giving them a chance.
I agree. Even in the last episode of season 7, they have a beautiful moment where he told her she must be an amazing human being. They were both in tears.
@@1masivac did you see what her parents told chris season 5 and ruined luke and her relationship? lorelai can rightfully act that way.
It struck me within the first five minutes that Rory was 32, the same age as her mother in the first episode in the first season. Her mother, who at age 32, had single handedly raised a 16 year old child accepted to a prestigious private academy, owned her own home, ran an entire business and planning to start her own inn, was in college at night also, was heavily involved and respected in her community, and even had a far more respectable love life complete with commitment and decent men who committed to her too. I found how they wrote adult Rory so disappointing, especially compared to her still striving and acheiving mother...and how well that mother raised her.
Her mother had to achieve what she did, there isn't the same kind of pressure on Rory
Exactly.
they should have made rory the way she was supposed to be.. in the end of the original show she was going on a tour with the president and had just graduated yale.
And the fact Rory kept forgetting about that boyfriend of hers....it was just sad.
I never liked the way that Lorelai rode Logan's ass for being fed with a silver spoon, when, in truth, Rory was just as spoiled and entitled -and it shows in the way they portrayed her as an adult. I always felt like Rory just expected things to work out in her favor (even when she disregards someone's feelings) and when they didn't, she just whined the entire time.
How about the fact that Jess was in the revival for all of five minutes and he made EVERYTHING AND EVERYONE better, but got absolutely no credit whatsoever. We didn't get to find out about anything that he's been doing these past years and you know the whole looking longingly through the window at Rory... yeah we needed more of Jess!!
Melody A. THIS!!!
Amen sister
I wasn't a fan of Jess in the original show but the little we did see I liked until he was seen looking at her through the window in what I guess was supposed to be a pining way. By that point, I thought he deserved better than her.
I'm not sure what I think of him fawning over her...she definitely doesn't deserve him, and yet, I immediately began crying when he looked through the window like that. I don't know.
I was so upset because she has always been a little brat but he loves her and she should have grown up and realized it because he certainly did. He talked her into going back to college and got no credit or appreciation for it and he also came up with the idea to write the book and instead of getting credit, he got hate from Lorelai. Jess deserves better than her but if he wants her then he should have her because he brings out the beet in her.
her grandparents are rich, her mom is literally the best, the whole town constantly praises her- she had every opportunity in the world. she was so loved by everybody but she truly only looked out for herself. throughout the whole show, people would make so many sacrifices for HER and what'd she do with it? absolutely nothing
I can't tell if that's profound or just really really depressing
I doubt the cast was thrilled with the script. It was such a letdown.
Are you kidding? She got the best GPA at the best high school in the country, she worked her ass off at Yale, she participated in her community throughout her entire life, she took care of her friends and family when they needed her, she helped Obama with his campaign run and presumably had a short career as a freelance journalist and then returned to Stars Hollow and wrote an entire book about her life. How is that nothing? The people who are upset with the revival have the same ridiculously unrealistic standards for her that she grew up with, when she had every right to pursue her own life path.
I didn't understood at all why Luke and Lorelei never talked in 9-10 years about children or marriage again as these were huge topics in general in the whole series. It makes no sense that this was never a topic between them in all this time. I expected a child/children and/or a wedding anniversary maybe and Rorys Marriage for example, with a complete new but handsome guy. I think I need to reed fanfictions :-)
I agree! Luke and Lorelai told each other even before they were together that they both wanted children if they found the right person. Also when Luke and Lorelai were finally together and Luke told her about buying the Twikham house, they talk about kids, He tells her he thought it would be a great house for their kids if thats what she wanted and she told him kids would be great. They really slacked in some aspects of the writing of this revival.
Marriage? 😂
These two are baby mamas and can't live with men. Seriously, though, any man who would marry either one of them is a simp. Luke is King Simp who Lorelai treats like a passing interest.
Can we talk about the fact that Mitchum Huntzberger was right about Rory!
oh shit youre right
True, altough I always thought that the main reason he said that was because she spent most time of her internship kissing his behind, which was really cringeworthy to watch.
I thought about that as well. When her Grandfather was defending her like she made a boo boo
Omg. Your right
Yes, I thought the same
When Logan "cheated" on Rory with the bridesmaids she was inconsolable and wouldn't even speak to him, but when she slept with Dean when he was married that was okay. And sleeping with Logan while he is engaged to someone else is ok. I think our perfect princess Rory has always been on the selfish side. We were just blinded by the town's devotion to her. BTW I love the show. I think Rory got tossed into the real world where everything she did wasn't automatically perfect.
Nail on the head
Plus people put their favorite characters on a pedestal and think they can do no wrong and no one wants to watch a show where the main character is selfish and has a terrible personality so they block it out.
IVE SAID IT BEFORE AND ILL SAY IT AGAIN. JESS AND RORY DESERVED BETTER. did u see the way he looked at Rory out of the window???? HE STILL LOVES HER.
WHY IS EVERYONE HATING ON RORY SO MUCH AND NOT LOGAN FFS??
@@whutdafeq1715 because Logan is not the reason she is the way she is lmao. She was a cheater b4 she got with him, was selfish, couldn’t take criticism , and didn’t want to admit that she had it easy. Logan is not at fault. He was a good boyfriend
@@whutdafeq1715 Exactly that's why their comments are idiotic and I don't even pay attention to them
I actually thought Lorelai’s reaction to Rory wanting to write a memoir about them was in character. She’s always been touchy about her upbringing and I can’t imagine her wanting that in black and white. Rory had the nerve to throw a tantrum when she didn’t even bother to consider Lorelai’s feelings. There were a few times in the original show where Rory ignored her Mother’s wishes when it came to her parents. This isn’t surprising because Rory has always been a bit spoiled and her Mother rarely says no or objects to what she wants. The book was advice she took from Jess who has a history of being careless with people’s feelings, including Rory’s. She’s been having a hard time finding work and she found no issue using her Mother’s story to make a buck. She can’t write a memoir without including Lorelai because there would be no story. Rory’s life is not really memorable; she hasn’t had a life yet.
Same
Although I disagree that we should be oppressed from telling a story about our own lives just because it includes other people. She should've focused on her own side of it as Lorelai said but then again I actually thought Lorelai would be flattered and so happy that her daughter praises her so much that she'd want to write her story of triumph! I found it shockingly arrogant that she was offended and like... Way narcissistic in the fear of exposure. She needs to stop hiding and being worried what her parents think and just live.
@@DivinityinLove or she just values privacy
I agree with this take.
That's exactly it, Rory felt entitled to tell Lorelai's story as her own. Plus with so many other people that'd be referenced Lorelai was completely right to be upset and not want that in an actual book form. Even the way she's structured the story to start with Lorelai leaving her parents says it all.
Throughout the show, the writers have hinted at Rory kinda wanting to be Lorelai or even thinking she is Lorelai. So Lorelai's experiences are hers. Rory isn't a complete person on her own, and she's regressed completely. It may not be a happy ending but I like that the writer didn't shy away from showing that actually Rory is a bit weak, book smart but not the smartest, and very indecisive.
I think the problem with the revival was that it wasn't really a revival. It was the final season Amy Palladino originally wanted. Why else would these characters still be stuck where they were? Rory turned down Logan's proposal yet 10 years later she's helping him cheat on his fiance? It was nice to see the characters again but the whole thing was very badly done.
Did anyone noticed that Everyone aged except Christopher?
Olivia Dodge Taylor looks the same too
I don’t like his character but the man sure looks good!
There were more people that didn't age.. How about Logan's dad?! looks exactly the same!
exactly the comment I was looking for!
uh, aaaand michele!!!!
How about the general lack of happinesss... The original show is cheerful and puts you in a good mood. The revival is bleak. Also, teenage Rory would be disgusted by adult Rory. Not even the same person.
I didn't mind Emily's transformation as much because it looked as though she were able to find some peace outside of just being Richards wife. She found her own path and I feel like we got a little closure to her story. Rory was extremely pathetic all four episodes. She was less mature than she was when the series ended.
Jessie Sings people change
Jessie Jackson Ummmmm, it's called growing up.
totally agree
Tammy I feel like that was done on purpose though... Rory was always praised on how grown up and mature she was as a teenager, it serves that she would have taken that to heart a lot and stayed at that "mature" mindset, making it easy for her peers to outgrow her in return. It also adds in a little bit of the "child prodigy" phenomenon, where extremely smart children and teenagers tend to grow up to become mediocre adults.
It fits that the adult Rory is lost and mixed up and didn't live up to her full potential; she was so smart as a teenager that she never really picked a direction and stuck to it. She was told she could do anything and kind of cracked under the pressure of that. Now she's scrambling to fix her life and decide what she really wants to do, one mistake after another.
some people say the last four words were a “full circle” but i think its just lazy writing
Right? And why should people live the same stories again and again?
it really is full circle. that jess rory logan storyline is exactly as lorelai chris and luke. in the series finale i thought rory broke it by following her dreams but the revival ruined it.
@@esrblgn exactly my thought. In the original series Lorelai wants Rory to become more. She should of become her own person.
@@msmarsi009 the revival ruined her chance to be Rory but it also ruined her chance to be lorelai too. i mean she's 32 and has done nothing with her life unlike lorelai. i think her character could only be saved if she decides that she's not going to be a single mother.
The only way it would be “full circle” is if Rory was still really young. But 32 isn’t exactly “OMG what am I going to do? I’m gonna be a mother! My life is over” age.
Rory's pregnancy in the end is a homage to what Gilmore girls was. It means that history will repeat itself
It doesn't matter that Rory is pregnant. Almost poignant. But what we don't LIKE is HOW and that it quickly ended after the final four words were spoken.
Not likely. Rory is pro choice. She will abort
The whole thing felt like an acid trip in an alternative Gilmore universe.
This is the best comment in the thread. Because it couldn't be more true. When the life and death brigade came to "save" Rory, I thought it was a dream for like 15 minutes, I was waiting for her to wake up. Very odd.
Exactly
Well I've never done acid so I wouldn't know about that
Neither have I, but I’ve seen Alice in Wonderland.
exactly lmaoo
my friend proposed the theory that the main show, gilmore girls is rory's book in tv show format and that she glorifies some of the events of her life and that the revival is their real life, which is why the characters in the revival are kind of different
So interesting i love this
Coll theory but definitely not what the show ACTUALLY is. Ha ha! You're better at writing then THEY are.
that explains why lane got like 3minutes for her in the show. in s2 lane joines the school Cheerleaders bc Rory spent all her time with dean and she was feeling alone
Makes sense since Rory is such a Mary Sue and if she wrote a book about her life I'd see her petty herself just too much sometimes
that is really depperessing. i think they should have left the show as it was and not made a year in life. it just ruined things.
I honestly think the whole show is just how Lorelai and Rory see the world... Do whatever they want, leave a trail of fire behind them, take no one else’s feelings into consideration and always find a way to justify down bad behavior. This revival solidified that...
Thats true. I love Luke and Lorelei together and always wanted them be a couple, but I also saw that Luke's wishes were never important. Always Lorelei got what she wanted... the house, the bed, his company at the town meetings/events (she never joined a camping trip), the marriage date..
I totally would love if they made a show about Emily. I'd LOVE to watch about her younger years, such as college-life, leading up to having Lorelai. She stole Richard away from his then-fiancée, Pennilyn Lott, and Richard's mother HATES her with a passion. Emily is such a perfectionist, and always gets her way. My favorite thing about watching Emily is when she starts opening up and showing vulnerability, but she realizes it, and snaps back into boss-bitch-mode. She's manipulative, demanding, controlling, and doesn't let anyone phase her. I'd say she's the best part of the revival who TRULY received a perfect closed chapter.
The musical was only ten minutes, it felt like thirty
Omg this is so true. It really just dragged on and on and on!! I kept thinking "wtf is going on....why are we still watching this???" And it went absolutely nowhere. There was no point to it at all.
Raven Golston it was so painful, Christ.
I don't mind the musical but I think they should've just showed the first act and thats it.
I just skipped everything after the first 30 seconds... and it seems i did very good, since everybody is complaining about it!! LOL
I hit fast forward less than a minute in and it seemed like it was on fast forward for 10 minutes. The scene had to have lasted at least 30 minutes.
Rory dumped Dean for Jess who was awful (at that time anyway), had an affair with Dean, was friends w Benefits with Logan, ran to Jess and kissed him while she was with Logan... why are we surprised the girl is a mess? Not to mention her entitlement and whining while she was a teenager. People change, but not much. She was always going to be this way.
true that.
Right?? I didn’t understand why so many people thought so highly of her character (earlier in the show).. She was so annoying and selfish. Every decision she made was based on her own selfish instincts.
Yes you are right but I still love the show
@@teti9087 season 1 Rory, shy and nice was good. Her character went to hell the minute she cheated on Dean with Jess
Seville Jabeen Yeah, that’s when I started to really dislike Rory. I was so confused though, so many people loved the idea of her and Jess and didn’t really mind that she CHEATED on Dean. I was soooo upset when her and Jess were starting to become a thing.
my main issue was the change in pace and cinematography, clearly the characters were also missing their original charm but the fact that they didn't attempt to follow in the footsteps of the original is such a shame
I also thought it was so weird that in the series logan would literally drop everything for Rory and pretty much wouldn’t even let them break up because he loved her so much but then he wouldn’t break up with his fiancé to be with her? it made no sense
I agree but then again why would he? He proposed and she rejected him, why would he trust her again?
@@ddb777 I know what you mean but i think if he really loved her he would. Idk i just think it just doesn't really fit w logans character
@@ava2442 maybe he was waiting for her, he never rlly pushed Rory to make a choice until the proposal
Literally the worst ending I could have EVER imagined. Even the last damned scene was of the girls being shocked, not smiling. We don't even get to see an actual wedding or who Rory ends up with. So beyond disappointing.
I think she would end up with Jess eventually because Jess is her Luke and Logan is her Chris
Agreed!
Maybe she end single. She is not able to have a healthy relation.
@@ddb777 which is soooo annoying and dumb! 😭
They didn’t even give us any clues that she was pregnant, we found out like it was out of the blue, and it was so random like an afterthought.
Watching the revival just made me realize how much I couldn't stand Rory after she went off to college.
ie, Rory changed so much and actually became worse.. I hate her character's development. I loved the Rory x Jess couple but seriously he deserves someone better.
true she became a total brat once she left for college
Actually, laura, she had the affair with the married man BEFORE she met Logan and her attitude started then. It was when she left for college -- a full year before she met Logan.
No, I think she became a spoiled brat after Jess got into the picture. Not saying that she is a total brat when Jess and her dated, but she did cheat on Dean, and I still think Dean never figured out about that. I mean she skipped her mother's graduation!! Rory! And worst part, I don't think Lorelei ever punished her for anything she did. She never took punishment. I also hate the fact that Rory never owned up to any of her mistakes! None of them. I just felt like her character went backwards instead of forwards
laura marrero fabian that makes sense! All these amazing boys were falling for her and it was so easy for her to pull on strings for them to bow to her! I've never understood why! Dean was the perfect first boyfriend. He was loyal. Jess was a great bad boy and shared interests with her! Logan is the perfect rich guy I think we all once had crushes about. He was a good guy and Rory brought out the best in him, but was the bad guy, because he challenged her
I distinctly remember when Rory was feeling badly about the fallout with Lucy and was telling Richard about it. Richard encouraged Rory telling her something to the effect of that she was a person of "great character and heart." Seeing Rory in the revival made me think how disappointed he would have been with how she turned out with neither characteristic.
Facts !
In less than ten years Paris went through four years of medical school, four years of OB-GYN residency, plus three more to become a reproductive subspecialist, then began practicing as a gynecologist, became a leading fertility doctor and also founded, owns and runs a surrogacy business that immediately grew into an international empire. How is this possible or am I the one who understood the wrong way?
my thoughts exactly. then I just decided to go with the ole suspension of belief/maybe I'm stupid, and just was happy one of them was doing something good for themselves even a little
I felt this was pretty on-brand for Paris, though. She was always a mover and shaker, going overboard to achieve her goals no matter what it took. She could've been exceptional and it took less time for her to get to where she was. She could've started on her breakthroughs/plans while studying and/or somehow the residency/subspecialist time was shortened cos she was just that good. idk but yeah I don't expect shows to stick to realistic timelines to the T especially for a side character. Plus didn't she say she also had an LLB and other stuff? I imagine she did a million things at the same time to achieve as much as possible. Very Paris.
Because it's Paris Geller!!!
Unlike Rory, Paris works her butt off and goes above and beyond to overachieve at everything she does. Not at all surprised by her success, or her divorce!
@@21crepes37 I agreed with Paris with this, but she also had two children while, I just thought it was all too much for Paris too, but I wrote this because I think the whole Revival was really undead on details.
I don’t think Rory is acting out of character. She was always a bit entitled and spoiled and pretty much did what she wanted. She hasn’t changed.
She didn't start acting like an entitled bitch til season 5
Britney Blaird that’s true, I remembered her character so differently but have been watching the series with my daughter and at least once every episode I feel the need to point out that she is not a good person, she could be, she wants to be (I think?) but her selfishness always pops up in the end. It’s super evident with how she handles the Tristen thing and especially when it comes to Jess..that’s as far as we are at the moment.
I agree
That’s because Ms.Mojo is up Rory’s butt. In another list she made a guy one of the worst guys just because he rejected Rory. 🤦🏼♀️
Yeah, I was always annoyed that the show acted like they didn't see it in the original series.
Finally someone who agrees that the musical was awful! !!!
I know right. The musical was extremely awful. I wanted more of the Revival. That's what sucks.
I tought pretty much everyone agreed that that whole musical storyline was terrible. Sutton Foster and Christian Borle are ALWAYS a welcome addition to anything, but the writers should have given them something better to work with (and less screen time tbh, we wanted to spend as much time as possible wit our beloved characters)
Alissa Gail it was so long my friend invited me over to watch with her and it became awkward cause we just sat their wondering if we should laugh or skip it
i invited my friend over after like 2 min we skipped it
Alissa Gail thank god, I wasn't the only one who hated and skipped it
I hope that if there is sequel, it starts with Lorelai or Rory waking up to find the whole "year in a life" series was just a terrible dream.
😂
I had a die hard family member fan tell me the fan theory that the memoir Rory wrote was the regular season run of the show.
And the Year in the Life was her real life.
It explains why everything goes so well for her in the regular run, but nothing does in the revival.
Now I’ll rewatch the show with that in mind for a while new take on it.
That actually makes sense 😮
what? i don’t understand, can you elaborate please
that makes more sense - thank you
can we talk ab the fact that it’s 2020 and we still don’t have answers to these questions
:(
We will soon!
Who is the father
We need closure!
@@jordanblop1069 its definitely Logan
The acting was just forced, it wasn’t as naturally witty as even the 7th season, let alone the other 6.
something about Lauren Graham's acting felt really off, forced is a good word. whatever made Lorelai...Lorelai....was missing.
@@jennrocchi6385 the rhythm was off. I always said GG was very musical in a way. The dialog always seemed chaotic but there was a beat and rhythm to it. A Year in the life seemed like a bunch of people doing impressions of characters.
i think the writers knew they were a hit too much and gave up. It didn't match the other seasons not one ep even. It was relying on the props too much and was too iconic border line felt like production was mocking it but the lines weren't great either so felt like writers too not taking it serious it shouldn't have been done. Perhaps just a catch up on Emily's life.
also the camera was different and done differently the movements were what you see in reality tv confused the viewer on what they were watching a reality tv show or gilmore girls because all the characters are the same it just feels different.
@@jennrocchi6385 i agree :(
Even if there isn’t more episodes, we know what will happen with Rory. Jess will help and be their for her like Luke was and Logan will keep getting in the way like Chris
That is really interesting coz another parallel would be Logan shoving it in rory's face how she rejected his marriage proposal and an excuse for being a crappy dad like Christopher does
That's an interesting theory that I hadn't thought about. It does seem like we build up to a loop similar to Lorelai's trajectory. There are some slight differences, i.e. Logan actually knows how to be successful and actually does have money, and Jess--well, we don't know much about Jess at this point, but he is more inline with Rory compared to Luke and Lorelai's relationship...and Rory will have the priviledge of a mom who she has a good relationship with compared to Emily and Lorelai's relationship...but I supposed it is possible for history to repeat, regardless.
Yes, so foreseeable. I already hate it :D
I agree , a few other / or the same things I HATED about it :
- why did Luke & Lorelei go backwards in their relationship?
- sookie would have never left the INN
- Rory is a terrible person with no morals, she really had a terrible glow down as a character
- Why didn’t we get to see the wedding ?!?
- WHERE YOU LEAD … or song was taken away from us !
- I could go in for days but I have to learn for my finals ( lol )
But in general , the revival feels crazy and is so trashy like the whole color theme and I get that it’s 2016 but people simply don’t change like this esp. Babette or Ms Patty who were older
It feels like the writers didn’t even watch the original Gilmore girls series and just continued with something else
The Song "where you lead..." does not fit anymore, because Rory aint following her mum as an adult
I'll never understand why they spent so much time in that musical 🤦 it was awful
I ended up skipping through it after like 3 minutes. It was like they ran out of material and needed to fill the space.
Probably just an excuse to have sutton Foster on the show.
I feel like Amy felt like she owed something to the cast of bun heads
Same. Musical was really boring
acuyuta I thought the same thing but it felt similar as when they opened the Stars Hollow History Museum on the original Show and the Audiovisual show started, I felt like it made reference to that.
I wanted tristan to have a real scene where they say “Hello” or at least something!
Possibly, because it was not the same actor.
They could have called Chad Michael Murray! He’s not expensive, plus he’s hawwwtt! I wish PROPER he had a scene
He probably made farther in life than she did. That would’ve been interesting to see.
NO ONE CAN REPLACE CHAD MICHAEL MURRAY THAT’S WHY
why did they even add that scene tristan didn't graduate from chilton there's no reason for him to be there. esp when chad michael murray isn't playing him.
I actually loved Rory's struggles with a job. Everybody several times in a life has a breakdown, where one acts completely opposite as one has in a character and is unprofessional. She was a prodigy her whole young life in a safe and controlled environment which is school. This is her major breakdown. If the series continues, I'm curious how she handles it.
it's so weird, like, Rory was such a role model in the earlier episodes, yeah she had her flaws but as a whole she was great. but in the revival i couldn't stand most of the scenes she was in. it's almost like Alexis changed too much to play the same character.
also the character turned into such a hypocritical, whiny and immature person, she didn't take responsibility when she screwed up, and all she did in the revival was screw up.
also, too many unanswered questions
nah. Alexis did a great job. its the writers fault for making the character unbearable..
the only thing that i liked about the revival was emily's storyline
Abena Adu-Offeh Agreed! She was like the only character that actually had any development.
Abena Adu-Offeh yes I really liked her a lot more!
That was the most satisfying aspect, and the main reason I kept watching.
Abena Adu-Offeh AGREED!!!! Although Paris getting divorced made sense, I wish they'd flush that out.
Emily became the most magnificent BAMF, it was a pleasure to watch. And there were some really great Lorali / Emily moments too (short lived, but nice!)
Rory bombing her interviews really bothered me. She's a college educated woman and couldn't come up with any answer better than, "because I want it," when asked why she should be hired for the job. Wtf, Rory. Hardworking rory who wouldn't take no for an answer when she wanted her newspaper job back while she was at yale, couldn't get hired by people who actually wanted her.
it doesn't make sense to me either.
Because Rory is entitled. She has a degree from Yale and she wrote a few pieces that got exposure; and she let it get to her head because everyone has told her in her life that she is "special". Not surprised about how she turned out
Honestly, she didn't want those jobs. Remember, Jess reminding Rory about passion and trying to find it and she mocks, but is actually serious when she says, "What is that foreign concept you speak of, passion, is that really a thing?" She didn't realize it yet, but she had lost her love for reporting. She isn't someone who can lie easily on spot, so of course. And also she was probably subconsciously forgetting to be prepared if she's truly lost her love for reporting...that's just her, if she's not passionate about her work it is hard for her to jump back up.
I think she had her best times while being at Chilton and Yale. She had all the support of glorious and super witty Lorelei, she had everything she wanted. No one is going to appreciate her more than Lorelei and her character is unable to develop a really deep relationship with anyone other than her mom. I am not surprised she wants to write a book about those times. At this point I think having such strong connection with Lorelei actually blocked her social skills with other people.
in the end, the revival proved that Logan's father WAS right. she doesnt have what it takes to be a good reporter... [the scene where she interviews the people in line, cmon. I am younger than her, am also a journalist, and would never, ever, ever, do shitty questions like that..]
Gets inheritance from Grandma at 21. Broke bye 30.
To be honest, I had to fast forward the musical. Unwatchable.
Ugh, the Stars Hallow musical was a huge waste of precious screen minutes...
I KNOW IT WAS SO LONG
I watched A Year in the Life after premier and because of that shitty scene I didn´t finish watching till last week. ... agree huge waste of time
omg! yes. i literally fast forwarded. wtf?
I just skipped it 1 it was so long and 2 I got so much second hand embarrassment
I fast forwarded
Am I the only one who pretends these episodes don’t exist, and leave the show as it ended in season 7?
IDK, but personally I didn't like season 7. Specifically, Lane's story line.
Season 7 doesnt even exist in my world, thank you very much
nope! it doesn't exist! what revival?
I stop partway through s. 6.
Nope. Sometimes I also pretend that this is a nightmare Rory is having.
Lulu had like a 3 minute scene and she looked the exact same! she's the same age as Alexis Bledel, Lulu is supposed to be a bit older than Rory and in the revival she's supposed to be like 36 and she looked 28, Rory is supposed to be 32 she looked like 40.
Ikr??? And Chris also stayed the same
I feel like Emily not being able to communicate with her staff has been a norm. And if you look at Emily’s background, it makes sense. I don’t think it was making fun of broken English so much as showing Emily as she’s always been, but also leads in to her character development. She ends up growing so much in the four episodes of the revival.
Agreed
I also hated how Paris and Doyle were divorcing
Same, I also hated how she was just letting a nanny raise her kids, when she clearly resented her parents in the original series for doing that to her.
history repeats!
hope lafrance true
Yeah! That was like the awful theme that ASP seemed to want for the revival for some reason-that everything is full circa and every girl ends up like her mum: Rory gets pregnant at a bad time in her life, lane is still living in SH working for Kim's Antiques and Paris lets her nanny raise her children while she puts her children through hell over her messy divorce. Why was she so hell bent on having such a depressing ending for the show!
You know I never really thought about it but that is even more frustrating. She isn't promoting learning from your parents mistakes but instead turning out just like your mother. There are a lot of kids who don't end up just like their parents.
The whole musical scene from start to finish was actually 18 minutes long, I timed it because I was shocked at how long it went on for. I included the whole amount of time they spent in miss Patti's talking about it as well as watching it. 18 minutes devoted to something that really has no bearing on the show seems like such a waste.
I thought the same thing!
I'm a massive fan of musicals and I love Christian Borle and Sutton Foster... but man was that whole musical shtick a drag (it genuinely felt like it would never end)
I KNOW I couldn't believe it. Would of been good to see her and Luke actually have a wedding,not the terrible musical.
I skipped that part tbh
Yes. I totally agree. I ended up fast forwarding it. So many other things could have happened and it just never did.
Honestly. I loved this season. It was so realistic. I don't know why people keep saying that it's not like Rory to not have a career or to turn down the headmaster at Chilton. It DEFINITELY is. She's always been so head on with her decisions and kind of selfish. In the later season she turned away internships and jobs for the one internship she swore she was going to get. She was bound to fail in life because she never knew how to except the second best. Ever. It was not unlike her character to have a one night stand either. Girls like Rory who are stuck in relationships their whole life tend to lose themselves romantically. I feel like her character is SO realistic and people can't accept it because it's not story book written. She's a shitty character in a story book but in real life she's just like the rest of us.
rory was just too different, sure she was always a little spoiled, but the way she was acting in the revival just sucked.
They say the best revenge is living a good life, and I'm glad Dean got to tell Rori about his good life. Nice work Dean. She broke your heart twice but you still came out the winner. 👏🏼
Dean broke up with her both times
Sarah Jean he broke up with her because she was being a horrible person. first he said he loved her and she didn’t say it back so obviously he would be upset and not want to be with her. the second time she didn’t like him anymore and was just stringing him along. she flirted with jess every time she saw him and it was obvious that she had a crush on him and was done with dean. so yes, dean broke up with her, but for very good reasons.
He was not a good person either, he was good in the first season but then he became toxic af and cheated on his wife and treat her life shit
Chiara Sanetti yeah i’m not denying that he wasn’t a good person but he was too good for rory in my opinion.
he broke up with her both times bc she was treating him like shit and stringing him along, and she was too weak and unbothered to do the right thing and end the relationship.
If you think about it, Rory was never even that great in the original series either. Couldnt handle five classes at Yale even though she never really needed a job, dropped out of Yale after one piece of criticism (something journalists get a lot of)... She was always pretty thin skinned for someone who wanted to a journalist.
Bri Yee-Sandoval exactly
everything you just said makes me angry on so many levels,
They played Logan's dad as the bad guy even though he was 100% in the right.
she was a really awful person all along and wasn't that special and the fact that everyone praised her for doing the bare minimum was so annoying to me. and what happened in the revival is really what she had coming after all those years of having everything handed to her and being a mediocre and average person who just happened to have wealthy relatives.
Yeah Rory was kind of annoying in the original series too. So IDK why everyone is suprised shes annoying here
is it normal that I just finished all 7 seasons of OG gilmore girls 2 days ago and now i want to rewatch the entire thing NOW???
Same here :))
I AM rewatching the entire thing now after finishing all 7 seasons like a week ago, so there you have it
@@beatrizmartinez8727 haha yes its j too good
SAME
The whole revival shouldn't have happened. I remember when I first watched it, finished rewatching the series, then Netflix automatically continued with the revival. It was a deep dive into depression that ruined the whole thing for me.... -.-"
In their defense, the characters were mad flawed in the show. But, it just sucks they didn't grow up :(
The biggest thing I did not like about the revival was Logan's story. He was completely in love with Rory and in Season 7 you really saw him grow up from an entitled boy to a more responsible man. He broke away from his father and the business and set out on his own. He never would have been engaged to someone he didn't love and have Rory on the side. He would not have worked for his father's company. ASP just made him into an asshole to make Jess look better, and that's not fair. I know she didn't write Season 7, but she should have paid more attention to what happened.
Kadian Gordon Yes it made me so angry! He did a lot of growing up in the last season and it doesn't make sense he would back slide so much
Kadian Gordon totall y agree
ASP, didn't write season 7..She had no part in it. So, his development in that season never was where she wanted that character to go. That isn't what she invisioned. Ergo it's almost like season 7 doesn't count.
I totally agree! It made me angry that she never watched season seven because there was character développement and storylines totally ignored ! And I am always team Logan! So it was hard to watch :(
Kadian Gordon but we need to remember that Rory refuse to marry Logan... he tried the best he could to build a life for both of them outside his family, but she rejected his proposal so it makes sense for him to align with his family as the years passed by. She had her chance to make a life with him, but as with anything else, she chose to go the unhappy way
I don't know, but when i watch the "old" series, i feel good and powerful, when i watched the first episodes of this revival, i just felt old and depressed...sorry, the thought was good, but some things just need to come to an end, period...
Oh my goodness, that's how I was feeling! I couldn't describe it at the time, but this is it.
Yes you've put what I felt into words!!!!!
There is no warmth, no nice music in the backgroung, no upbeat moments. It's just sad
Same
Very well put. That´s EXACTLY how I felt
the only good thing! of the revival is that emily finally learned! that sharing and having morals and be warm to other people is good!
We go to Stars Hollow for comfort. I just wanted to move away.
EXACTLY
At least Dean finally had a happy ending
3 kids another on the way yes he and a wife did better then anyone on the show for the 3 Mins he was on. I am happy about what they did it was short but sweet at the same time and anyway Jared had too get back too his other job he has been doing for 12 seasons now so there is that.
tbh every time I read Dean I just picture Jensen Ackles, but then I have to remember the Video is about Gilmore Girls and not Supernatural and that Jared is Dean instead of Sam.
I still wish Rory chose Dean because he did everything right for her, he is more "husband material" than Logan or Jess. Although, Jess is the character that has evolved & changed the most. He is more mature & wiser now. I love that he respects Luke more & he cares more about what Rory wants. In the earlier seasons, he was bratty, disrespectful, impulsive & only cared about his own needs. He wanted Rory to drop out of Yale & run away with him, not caring that she would be leaving behind her own dreams & her mom. I was so happy that Rory stood her ground with him.I always knew Dean would be married regardless of whether he ended up with Rory or not. He really was a good guy (minus the Lindsay infidelity debacle.)
Nikka Rose I was thinking they was perfect together too but the way it ending kind of sucks. So how they did it with Dean moving on with his life was great he has a family that he wanted and poor Rory her life is going to be messed up and I think Logan is the father of her baby but I do not think he is going too marry her because he was with another woman so Rory is going to be a single parent and that is sad.
I agree with you, but I didn't want Dean and Rory to be togheter... as you said Dean did everything for her, just like in Rory's whole life she got everything without doing a thing for them - I guess that's why she became what she is now. She was spoiled!
One of the things I liked *most* about the revival was how consistent Rory's character was with the original and the natural progression of consequences that followed. I don't get why this video insists that her character changed somehow. She's always been entitled. She's always cheated on her boyfriends. She's always been able to adjust her moral compass to whatever suits her. She's a brat.
examples? explain? show your work? im honestly just curious
She kissed Tristan and jess while being in a relationship whith Dean, she cheated with Dean on his wife, she cheated on Logan with Jess
Or the way she reacted on what logan's father told her. The old rory would prove him wrong, and work even harder but she just become so offended, because she thought that everybody in her life will praise her or be nice to her because she is 'gilmore' and everybody should love her like they did so far, don't get me wrong i do not hate her but she did become entitled
I think what people dislike about it the most is that she's so talented and bright and privileged- and yet she ends up adrift. It doesn't fit the narrative we are taught in childhood and it scares people that they could be Rory. Plus cheating doesn't sit well with most people, even if it is part of her character
@@MsJubjubbird I wouldn't say writing a book and being a well respected journalist is adrift.
To be perfectly honest I loved and enjoyed the revival. It was far from perfect but there were so many great things about it! The one thing I did not like was the relationship of Lorelai and Luke. They were supposedly in a relationship for 10 years + and they STILL don't communicate well, they didn't develop as a couple, they didn't get married and they didn't even discussed the possibility of having children. They clearly wanted to have children during the OG run of the show.
Agree but Its in line with their rocky relationship in the later seasons, especially the final season without asp and they had Lorelei go back to Christopher for no good reason but have them go fisticuffs throughout stars hollow when we already saw that with dean and jess.
@@ZaddyZavid i feel like the writers thought their relationship didn’t have too many problems and were worried it was going to be boring or something idk?
Lorelei and Luke literally were perfect for each other. Everyone knew and supported them why couldn’t they write them to be an actual heather couple that is SUCH A MISSED OPPORTUNITY. They had a lot of issues that could be fixed with communication which they could’ve learned together throughout these years and be able to voice their wants and needs which was LITERALLY THE MAIN REASON WHY IT TOOK THE TWO SO LONG TO BE WITH ONE ANOTHER.
I can understand why Lane is following her mom's footsteps because her whole journey of life changed when she got pregnant. Her character realized what she did value as important and that's perfectly OK that she chose this path over her original journey. Rory's path honestly makes sense to me as I am now almost 30 and I felt pretty lost throughout my 20s..
The general vibe of a year in the life was so disappointing. Gilmore girls always felt happy and almost warm, if that makes sense, but The new series felt cold and distant. They should've given more 90's/00's nostalgia because realistically that's what a year in the life was made for. Poeple wanted to see them again and go back, but it wasn't the same.
Jasmine Quin-Conroy you do realize Gilmore Girls wasn't in the 90's right
The four episode hour and a half format was a large part of it. Game of Thrones had the same problem when episode numbers got reduced. It brought out the weaknesses that were always there in both series. They just became more noticeable in the different way the writing works. Its why movies aren't as good as TV. Think about the fact that both shows had movie length episodes in comparison to their earlier shows and seasons.
Cold and distant, perfectly said, ( kind of like running into someone you haven't seen in a while but wanted to avoid.) the vibe was sooooo bad, soooo cold, in a show that has always been warm and cozy and a safe place. 🐻
I got that vibe too. I feel like a lot of it had to do with the color tones in the show and also the camera movements/angles. The cinematography just wasn't the same, it was modernized in a way. I wish they wouldn't have done that
@@o.dey_ And the big thing is that Sookie's voice changed, Lorelai became sad, and not very/so comedish, everything changed.
It all just felt like random crap with no purpose. A disservice to the original. Emily’s ending was the only decent one.
I HATED what they did to EMILY....She might have mellowed a bit but NEVER EVER to that extent.... The producers just copied her character in the series BUN HEADS....!!!
I hate that the writers treated like FOOLS, Rory's "brokenness" didn't make sense. Christopher is insanely rich (to the point where he's mentioned he doesn't know what to do with it many times). Plus, if Richard left Luke some money imagine what he left Rory. I hate that they didn't acknowledge any of this. Rory probably has access to millions and the fact she considered herself homeless enough to move back to SH instead of getting her own place? Even the way they referenced her apartment in Brooklyn. There was also the scene in S7 where Richard & Emily were considering getting an apartment on the Upper East Side.. Rory may not have been successful by any means but I'd still count her as filthy rich.
Exactly! she could buy an apartment or start a business
Even though the revival was terrible.. I loved the fact that the song that was playing when Lorelai and Luke were getting married was the same song that was playing when they danced for the first time at Liz’s wedding. It was a beautiful song
❤
Why is there no mention of Jess?? Jess needed more screen time!
nabz 18 Jess moved on and had triplets:P
nabz 18 not only jess
Dean lane paris rorys yale friends city members and many more were in need of a longer screentime
yeah, yes!!!
Agree. At least they could have put him in the wedding ceremony scene...
yes completely agree!!
My main problem with the revival was since it was written for the original series 10 years ago most of the plot didn't make sense for what it probably should have been. For example Logan and Rory still sleeping together? I feel that they wouldn't still be seeing each other 10 years after their breakup. The revival just seemed off and I think the characters would have developed differently in 10 years.
darcy phillips Yes! I thought the same thing! this would have kind of made sense back then. It's like the writer finally got to do the episode she originally intended but it's lost us
darcy phillips my taughts exactly.. they really mislead us.. we should think of this like a year later.. not ten! at least rory's (without the Paul thing), logan's, Dean's, jess's, lorelai and Luke's storyline would make sense.. not so for lane's, paris's, sookie's, April's.. Emily's I loved.. Michel's was so so.. the musical I keep forwarding every time I have seen the revival.. it's just a mess!
I never realized this storyline was written to follow directly after the original show 10 years ago... that makes SO much more sense. That makes Rory's pregnancy SO much more meaningful, too. There's a huge difference between 30 year old Rory making a mess and getting pregnant... and Rory getting pregnant in college. That would change the entire context of the situation, given Lorelei got pregnant in highschool and Rory would've been practically a kid still like she was when she had her... 30s Rory getting pregnant was not that impactful?!
it’s nearly 2021 and we still don’t have any answers
The revival felt very gloomy. I think it was trying to be nostalgic but it really just made me sad apart from a few scenes. OG Gilmore Girls was almost always happy and promoted better messages too
I wanted to see Madeline and Louise, why weren't they at the reunion??? Their characters deserved it more than fake Tristan
princesseaem and I want to see Babette she's funny but Taylor if he wasn't a jackass I would love to see him
And Sookie why wasn't there at Lorelai's wedding?
They eloped one day before.. their wedding is on the next day but Lorelai wants to elope the night before thats why Rory was on her pajamas..
they didn't have that much money to pay another scene of melissa mccarthy
@@alondra5288 Actually it was because of her agenda... She had only one day to shoot all her scenes. We must be glad that she at least was there! :)
ikr?? Sookie would have been there no matter what.
plus she was doing a lot of movies.
Even tho I *hated* season 7 and had a hard time watching it I do love the final, I thought it was soooo sweet to throw Rory a goodbye party, having every single person who cares about her (minus her had bc that douche only cares about her when it's convenient) wish her luck and tell her how happy and proud they are of her (also Luke being the sweetest guy ever). Sadly I was really disappointed with the revival, I thought it was going to be about Rory being pregnant and having to deal with all of that but with the help of her mom (in contrast with Lorelai's situation) idk, kinda bummed out tbh
Jess was the only person who told Rory when she needed to get herself together and didn't sugar coat. I think he would have been the best for her. Everyone else just let's her not have accountability for her choices/lack of smart choices. She remained so stagnant. How disgusting that she dragged Paul along, had a one night stand and was sleeping with Logan.
Loved Emily's character development but was disgusted with Rory.
Linda Orwoll me too.. now she's pregnant and essentially it could be one of 3 guys I didn't think she was that girl.. I really wanted get to get back together with Jason.. I'm guessing Jason is supposed to be like Luke and Logan is supposed to be like Christopher..
All seasons lead to us thinking Rory was going to be a success, but it seems to me script writers got lazy and just scrambled together four episodes because of the demand of the fans. I know Stars Hollow is fantasy, but still you’d think the writers would have had more consideration for the fans. Very disappointing!!!
She's meant to have growth. If she's prefect then they're can be no development. But she might be pregnant with another couples baby, using Paris' company. It might even be Luke and Lorali's, there might be a surprise they chose not to show the audience.
Hayley Boo Yes She has to grow and be her own woman but with every episode up until this last season showing us That Rory’s life was going to be different from her moms, they could have had different difficult story lines to show her growing into a young woman and not ending up yet another single mother ( or ending up in a marriage she maybe didn’t want!) but everyone seemed to have completely different personalities & opinions this time around I suppose anything was possible, all I can say is I was VERY DISAPPOINTED, Kelly Bishop was the only one I enjoyed watching this time around!
I think you mean Jess lol...Rory never dated anyone named Jason. That was Lorelai and I didn't care for their whole fling.
I agree with this but I think the worst one was we’re Lorelai couldn’t say anything nice about her father. I mean he paid for Rorys school and he brought her the doll house that her mom was gonna give away. She loved her dad and had a good connection with him. I just think that was truly dumb
Exactly. It wasn't her dad she had the major issues with. In fact, many times through the years, we watched him be in cahoots with her on things.
And robbed us of remembering him well too
The ONLY bright spots in this series- the reconciliation between Lorelai and Emily at long last, Emily's development in the wake of Richard's death, and honestly EVERYTHING about Emily's arc was so good. I REALLY wish the rest had even half as much quality to it.
Amy Sherman-Palladino seems to have rushed through the script just to fulfill her contractual obligations . This commentary is spot on and raises all the issues that we saw in the revival . Lackluster script, conflicting stories, etc.
Why wasn't Emily at Lorelai's wedding? That's really out of character, especially after we find out how much it means to her like when she finds out about the wedding to Max and eloping with Chris.
sowmyas4 yesssssss agree so much!!!! i NEEDED to see Emily there!!!!!!!
They were having a full wedding ceremony the next morning, which Emily was going to attend. It's fitting for Emily to not be present at the impromptu, intimate wedding, as she wasn't always supportive of the relationship. What I really find terrible is that Sookie wasn't present.
My thoughts exactly!!! This pissed me off so much. Somehow it was okay to wake up Lane and Michel (sp??) in the middle of the night but Emily wasn't??? Sure, she probably would've initially been put off by doing it that way, but she would've realized that Lorelai never does things "how she's supposed to." I'm sure she'd have felt so happy to finally see her only child get married!!!! Emily's arc was incredible and she changed in a positive way... and basically deserved so much better.
Emily was on Nantucket Island (was it Nantucket or Martha's Vineyard?). She wouldn't have been able to make it to Stars Hollow in an instant. Lane and Michel were the only ones in Stars Hollow at that time.
sunshaped That's what gets me. even if she wasn't there for the impromptu wedding, it didn't look like she have any plans of travelling - like attending the wedding the next day.
I do have to say, I think Richard's death took a huge toll on Rory. She was successful, writing for the New Yorker and traveling overseas for work before he died, then after his death she just wasn't the same. I think his death impacted her and she's flailing without her guidepost. As much as her mom means to her, her grandfather was always the beacon she followed. He always supported her. Rory is lost without him. Emily grew and was able to learn to live without him, but never forgetting him. That's why Rory chooses to write in her grandfathers study. she needs him. I think they will get Rory back on track with the book she's writing and the baby. Which I believe will be a boy named Richard.
I saw that too, everyone lost their way after Richard's death. But maternity and a new career as a writter as the new grown up Rory. And Jess as Rory's Luke.
yeah.. it will be exciting id rory has a baby boy.. after all the gilmore girls... emily lorlei and rory.. it would nice to shift the focus on a boy raised by these women...
Chills, darling, CHILLS!! I LOVE this concept
@@AnjaliKumari-np7sv Ooof, what could have been! I love this!
I LOVED Richard. I wish I had a grandfather like Richard.
A lot of comments and people are missing the point: Rory ISN'T perfect. She was always told how great and amazing and smart she was , she was spoiled, reality would hit her sooner or later.
Her not succeeding in life is 1000 times more satisfying that her being little miss perfect and it is VERY real. A lot of people are still lost and struggling at 32. She is the opposite of her mother, who at that age had so much for her.
Lorelai was a friiend first and mother second to Rory, which was a fatal flaw.
There were other things I didn't like about the revival:
Can we talk about Jess? He was not a nice character at first in the original but he had such an evolution through the seasons. He did everything he wanted to do but everyone doubted, and then, at the end, he looks to Rory like he's not over her and would come back if she asked to. Jess deserves so much more.
And also, where are Lis and TJ? Them and their baby were such a big part of Luke's life by the end of the show and they weren't even mentioned!
And still talking about Luke's family: What the heck happened to April? She was such a nice, smart girl... Completely out of character and I get they wanted to show her struggling through something, but they didn't explore it. And also the fact that Rory was super uncomfortable talking with her. It was just too weird.
4:07 shes speaking spanish and Rory should know it. She was speaking to one of the maids in Spanish while she lived with her grandparents and started helping the maid a little as they spoke right before her grandmother walked in and asked Rory if the maid asked her to help.
It seems like an oddly harder to understand form of Spanish for some reason? But you're right, the scene where Rory speaks Spanish with the maid in the original series is one of my favorites. It seems like they sort of lost that cool, unpretentious vibe in the revival.
Native Spanish speaker here. That's a Spanish-like language, but not proper Spanish. It has a lot of Mexican slang elements though. But it's not an actual language and that's the whole joke.
@@ElCharolin It may not have been the writers' intent (I doubt that it was) but in the revival it just feels like Rory is being slightly snobbish. Which I feel that the Rory of the original series would never do. However, Emily seemed to be more accepting and less judgmental in the revival which was kind of a nice change. I think what felt weird about it for me, was the way it was executed the second time around. It felt ambiguous as to whether Rory / the Girlmore Girls were "looking down" on the housekeeper for her way of speaking. For me it was better when Rory jumped in and spoke her best Spanish in the original and demonstrated that Emily's snobbery and xenophobic attitude was not cool.
@@HeartSunYoga It's like this coworker of mine when he speaks French. I know French and half the time I have no idea what he's saying lol
It was nice in the original because she treated the help as real people. Also the actress is Latina of Argentinian descent. Emily was much better, I believe she was in Richard's shadow.
Is it just me or did anyone else hate Rory for most of the revival episodes and some of the time in Gilmore Girls? Around the time she when to college she acted like everything should fall in place for her and she would talk behind the backs of anyone who was prettier. Rory acted like she was just a nice innocent girl when she would write horrible pieces about other people, she also cheated multiple times either with someone she was with or she would be the other girl. Anyone else miss the Chilton Rory?
I miss the Chilton Rory!
Amrit Sandhu I like to picture how her ending would've turned out had she not become such a jerk after going to college.
I've never really thought about why but my favourite seasons are when Rory is still in high school and maybe a little bit of her first year or two of college. Maybe it just got to dramatic and contrived. I think it was at the point when Rory dropped out of Yale and was living with her Grandparents that I hated it the most but then again I think we were supposed to.
I hated revival rory.
I assume Revival Rory was supposed to represent all the self-involved, narcissistic and entitled millennial brats we read of repeatedly. Otherwise, I don't see the point of her character.
I just can’t believe that Lane is still in that tiny apartment. That was only bit where I was really like NO. Not believable. Not acceptable.
No major problems with the rest. 🤷♀️
Not acceptable? lmfao... hate to think what you did when you heard about Santa. These is fiction you know...
@@huntsman145 What about Santa?
Also - Luke's entire personality being replaced with being clueless and kinda dumb and being dragged along by the other characters. Not knowing how surrogacy works, not saying anything to Emily about not wanting to franchise the dinner, knowing things weren't right with Lorelai but ignoring it, the whole "that's the kid" scene?
Thank you! This Luke was unbelievable. Sad.
And I would have thought that Lorelei & Luke had already got married. And had a baby already w/i the last 10 yrs.
Yes, yes and yes. I was disgusted with Rory. The Wild storyline was dumb, and I hated the musical! It didn’t belong.
I didn't like the musical either, but I think it is typical Stars Hollow. Taylor Dosse was always trying to have new events in the town to bring in tourists and tourism dollars, like the Twickenham Museum, changi6the street names, the Festival of Art(?), the maze, etc.
I mean, Lorelai did say ‘after all, you are me’. she’s not wrong, history has repeated itself
I think I wanted it to be so much more than it was. During the classic episodes I was so disappointed they wrote Rory being so selfish and it just got worse. This revival was going to fix it, except it didn't. She made the same choices. In the end I was seeing this through nostalgic glasses. That was the charm for me.
I didn't think Rory's entitlement was out of character. Starting from her 2nd year of college (basically when she started dating Logan), she started getting very entitled. This was totally a natural progression actually. Still disappointing to see her that way though.
Christina Gmiterko totally agree. I saw her start to change as early as the third season. She just started to become a spoiled brat but started to get so much worse once she went to Yale.
I love Logan but I totally agree as soon as they started dating she started changing and being rude to her mother!! they were so close and she was so mean to her it didn't make any sense to me
I don't even think it's her fault totally because everybody keeps praising her. All that praise has gone to her head.
I agree but I also am disappointed that they didn’t keep it as a phase or show some moment of realization of how entitled she had actually become.
I hated seeing her being Logan's mistress and having his baby- did she learn NOTHING from her mother???? Lorelei would have never wanted Rory to have to be a single mother- it's just how life ended up for her....even though they made it alright. But Rory is not her mother and is definitely the more co-dependant type which is fine if she would admit it. I don't like Logan and her together personally but I do think if this is where she was going to end up it would have been way better for everyone if she had just married him.
I think the father is Paul, Rory just forgot about it...
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Lane wasn’t trying to escape her mother, she wanted her mother to allow her to make her own choices and respect them
I hate that Rory did not accept Logans proposal of marriage. They could have had a long engagement and she could have still done all those life experiences. She ends up carrying his baby anyway...