Heyo! I think if you place the timestamps inside the description it actually implements them into the video runtime, cant remember if it requires studio stuff or not but thought it might help :)
@@jamesfulton215 That's actually a very good idea and probably pretty close to whatever it was Halsey was doing. As for the Paris I think I hit on pretty much everything I'd have to say, although my breakdowns have gotten a little more detailed since that one. Maybe eventually I'll come back around to these.
It didn't get demonetized! I've thought about doing video compilations before, but I wasn't sure if anyone would like them. Thanks for the suggestion, I plan on doing the same for the Destroyers, Cruisers, Carriers, and Corvettes.
If they want to create a Halo-based space RTS, they they should talk to the devs for the Homeworld and include the devs for the Sins of the prophets mod! Between them and 343 ,they could make something truly beautiful!
Give me a more in-depth version of E.A.W's Subsystem and Hardpoint style combat, with Fighterbays/Hangars ect, but on the scale of S.O.A.S.A. or Homeworld, with customised loadouts for ships.
@@jaegergames7042 That feels like a great setup for a single-ship space RPG type game, with the protag being a single, upgradable ship and it's crew. You could choose from a Paris, Charon or Halberd with the Halberd focused on space combat, the Charon on Ground support and the Paris balanced between. As an extra balance, you could have the upgrades cost more for the Halberd, as it is physically larger. A phoenix class could serve as the Story and upgrade "hub" with a Halcyon making appearances for the opening and final battles. Crew and complements would function as being a percentage based system (start with 1k marines and could upgrade to 900 w. 100 ODST and so forth), with the "second-tier" units requiring more "points" to purchase. Ship upgrades would be a straight upgrade. The Hero Ship story would begin during the battle of Reach, with them having just been ordered to pull out. A Marathon "takes a bullet" as it were for them, buying them to escape. The Halcyon fights a retreat alongside them and they have a "Good luck, Captain" "You, too" moment. After they jump out, there's a brief battle between them and a Covvie corvette that managed to track them, which serves as a brutal tutorial. After the battle, they notice a distress call from a nearby ship, jump to it and it turns out to a be a damaged Phoenix. The Phoenix Captain is senior to yours and assumes a sort-of command role. The situation is that, so far as they're both concerned, the fleet is considered lost. They decide to fight a guerilla campaign against the Covvies using data pulled from the Corvette's computers. There's a campaign of raiding poorly-defended Covvie sites and scavenge from trashed UNSC and Innie locations marked as Glassed. They find pockets of survivors which join the crew. Eventually a small Covvie fleet tracks them down and a desperate Last Stand is made by the Hero Ship and Phoenix and the Halcyon arrives just in time to even the odds and they have a brutal victory. The Phoenix goes down swinging, ramming a Covvie cruiser and taking it out. The battle is close to lost. The Halcyon is disabled and the Hero Ship has been mortally wounded. Then *another* covvie fleet jumps in and all seems doomed... until the new fleet attacks the previous one. The stunned survivors are greeted by the Elite Commander of the new fleet and informed of the changed situation (schism) and he offers to lead them both back to a nearby UNSC system. The Hero Ship begrudgingly accepts and is abandoned, the crew transferring to the Halcyon. There's a slow camera pan across the Phoenix's wreckage and the Hero Ship's battered corpse and the New Meat Lt. asks the Capt if it was all worth it. The Capt sighs and says "I sure hope so Lt." The ships jump out. *Roll credits along a sad version of the theme song*
A competent dev team could've made several entire games from scratch in the time it take Sins of the Prophets devs to put out one small update (which would just be yet another graphical update and little else). They aren't nearly as good or competent as their fanboys claim, and from personal experience, the lead devs are dickheads. The fact their mods and their partners' mods have essentially gone dead for years is telling enough, aside from token comments to string people alone once every few months. Let's not delve into the fact the engine they mod is old, clunky, and janky. And the game itself is practically on hospice care in regards to player numbers and they have zero plans to move it to the new Sins game, lol.
I think the Mulsanne class and it’s laser is designed to specifically combat Covenant ships in a support role. The main reason the Covenant were winning the space front in the Human-Covenant war was partly because of their energy shields while human ships had no shields. However, as shown in halo wars Covenant shields have been shown to be susceptible to super heated plasma. Lasers are in a way concentrated super heated plasma. As shown in halo infinity when the Mulsanne fired the super carriers shields flickered, indicating it was out making the ship vulnerable to macs and nukes. In other words the Mulsanne class is a support ship designed to make covenant ships vulnerable to other UNSC ships.
i think its wings are radiators for its weapons, engines and shields mostly. with spaced armor being a secondary effect, which works with plasma as vacuum distance is the best protection from heat. it may help with shield or splipspace geometry too.
I think it's just a general upgrade package to replace the outdated MACs. Kinetic weapons deal a lot of damage if they hit, but dumbfire projectiles don't typically do so well in the vacuum of space unless you're in brawling range, which in this case is anywhere below 50,000 kilometers, and this is exclusively due to their velocity. A MAC can only canonically engage at just over 16,000km, which is fairly realistic for such a weapon. That worked against the Covenant because they didn't know how to use their ships properly, but it would be woefully inadequate against ships that knew how to target with laser weapons out to 80-100,000km (which is pretty reasonable for such a weapon system), or had missiles with on board guidance systems (which the UNSC does), which are only limited in range by their delta-v (how much they can change velocity in a vacuum). So long as they're not shot down or jammed missiles can reliably hit targets even further away than laser weapons.
NGL it would have been cooler for the Invention to have been a heavily upgraded Charon class, since Freelancer of all projects would defo have the resources for it.
@@cookiecraze1310 FR the director had the funds. You could see that with him literally owning The Mother of Invention. Maybe RT just didnt wanna deal haha
15:21 the obly armmed spacecraft in history was a soviet space station equipt with the same 23mm autocannon armment seen on soviet bombers as defensive armment
30:11 not to mention the first confirmed instance of a UNSC and Covenant docking preformed with not only non-hostile, but directly beneficial intentions.
I honestly feel like the Charon class is undermanned in terms of it's ground force complement. Modern day LHD's (which is basically what the Charon is in terms of role) like the Wasp-class can carry almost up to 2000 troops. And those ships are about half the size of a Charon. You know what? Come to think of it, Halo does have a size/scale issue especially when it comes to ships
If I remember correctly, Installation00 calculated if you want the ships to be scaled correctly to fit Pelicans/Longswords, they have to all be scaled up roughly 3-3.5 times... So a 535m Paris suddenly becomes 1600-1800m... The ~1500m Autumns become... Well you get the idea...
@@dukewild5071 The Pillar of Autumn is the BIGGEST source of size issues and discrepancies, and I'm not even talking about the warthog run (although that is a massive factor). Halo Warfleet did a horrible case of a cross section where the 8 hangar bays on both the starboard and portside are instead filled with cargo instead of... you know... bloody aircraft! I'm not even kidding, they retconned the hangar bays as cargo bays instead... Like who the hell is in charge of the lore details at 343?
I think he *meant* to say 0.93 *million* metric tons. Probably just reading off a script and didn't catch himself, as that's what the wiki lists its weight as. Always found it interesting that Halo even bothers to consider how much a space ship could weigh, even if weights are only given for a few ships.
Not even joking i got goosebumps when you said In Amber Clad! God i love the name of the UNSC ships! They're so impactful without being cumbersome to say.
15:21 Howdy, E-3 in the US Navy here. As far as I know (and I may be horribly wrong so someone please verify what I’m saying), all weapons systems are controlled within the ships of the USN, with the exception of crew served weapons such as the M2 Browning and other such machine guns.
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Good job, I'm subscribing because it's the first channel I've seen that fully talks about the fleet of humanity in Halo; I hope that the games continue to release more content from this, so that you can tell us more about what is missing.
@@rexxmen oh my fuck, it’s named after the native people I pronounce it that way because of the color and rock that’s spilled similarly, turquoise. Iroquois Never mind I pronounce Iroquois the American way
Side with the British way? 😂 You're speaking our language, our way is the correct way. Are you going to tell the Spanish they aren't pronouncing their language correctly? 😂 Americans
Can't wait for the episode on that Mech suit, piloted by a demolitions member UNTRAINED and with NO PRIOR KNOWLEDGE he absolutely ripped through those Covies like they were tissue paper. Can you imagine if those became production units rather than a one off prototype?
I'm waiting for the day that HALO gets a space based naval RTS. Both sides have such cool ships that are wasted as window dressing for Chief dancing on grunt bodies. The closest thing to it is a Sins of a Sollar Empire mod.
The ships of the line for the UNSC. No matter what they are, the frigates of the UNSC Navy will always be an integral part of any UNSC naval operation. They're small, but pack a punch. No small feat for such vessels, they really are some of the greatest ships the UNSC has. And the legecy of each of the classes, especially the three from during the war, will forever be remembered and honored. Glad I got this video in my recommendations, I'm going to enjoy these videos if they're going to be this good. Keep it up, this is really great!
With how compressed the UNSC frigates are having exposed bridge's make sense. If anything it would increase its survivability, as these ships tend to get cut in half along the hull more often than having their bridge's caved in.
Hey man just wanted to say keep up the good work! Your breakdown videos are truly unique and very entertaining. Can’t wait to see more from this channel in the future! Also, Would love to see you breakdown the UNSC Infinity or the Infinity class in general at some point!
I just wanted to say, I love your comedy when it comes to the famous halo characters commanding ships, you’ve got yourself a new subscriber!~ Ps: 30:28 perfect edit
To make a point for exposed bridges with windows (because they are cool) I’m working on a Sci-fy setting rn where the two factions of humanity are at war, and one of them (The RHW) has very VERY advanced Electronic warfare, advanced enough that the other factions (the MCFP) does not even try to fight them on the EW front, and sense the RHW can just mess with their sensors to an extrodenary degree MCFP ships have bridges with windows to dive by sight in combat to render the RHW’s electronic attacks useless They also use them for good old light signals in case of complete coms cut off between ships via RHW electronic attacks they resort to good ol flashing spotlights at each other
1:02:15 The Strident’s shields did flare in the cutscene with the Infinity, when Purple fighters rained missiles and around that time it made a reaction to the frigate’s shields.
Okay, outside the awesomeness named "Forward Unto Dawn", "Promise of Dawn" and "Ready-Or-Not" are pretty sick names for ships. Saying "Put some propulsion on a gun" makes me think of the A10 Warthog. It's basically a big gun with two engines, two wings, and a cockpit.
I'll try not to gush too much, so I'll just say.....This was really thorough. Superb visuals, musical score and really good Narration. Professional Grade video indeed. 😎👍🏾
I had two hits of nostalgia I was not expecting to get in this video. One was some of the photoaged used is from the game sins of a solar empire. I recognized the halo mod as I had just played that a few days ago. The second was music from mass effect around 47:00.
Regarding spaced armour, the main use in space would be to prevent damage from weapons such as plasma torpedoes by causing them to detonate on the external armour. Any kind of continuous directed beam weapon, like i believe the covenant plasma lances are, would just punch through the spaced armour and continue through the vessel.
11:14 Gonna stop that there. Homefleet had around 84 ships at the battle for Earth. The largest UNSC fleet to face the covenant was battlegroup India with 162 ships briefly bolstered with 55 ini ships in the battle of the Psi Serpentis system.
There aren't any numbers on the size of home fleet. The best we get is "hundreds of ships" Hundreds plural, so at least 200. The Halo 2 Anniversary cutscene that said 84 was only referring to the fleets that immediately engaged Regret. Home fleet was composed of multiple fleets.
0.04% the speed of light is 26million840thousand 26,840,000 MPH in a mass of 3000 tons. That is Mach 35,084. The Chelyabinsk Meteor was traveling at/about Mach 55 and weighed 13,227 us tons. The force of that mass impacting Air at that speed was sufficient to create a 500 kiloton explosion over the city of Chelyabinsk.
40:50 i don't think that the 'wings" are meant to be spaced armor, they could simply be large heat sinks that the heat generated by the ship's engines, machinery and occupants are fed into and radiated out of the ship, while also providing some level of extra protection against incoming fire it's very easy to heat something up, it's very difficult to cool things down especially in space where there's no medium like air to transfer energy into
40:10 spaced armor was mainly used for either small projectiles. Or explosive munitions. Mainly HEAT. Which physicaly cant "penetrate" spaced armor. And with normal HE you keep the ship from taking damage by having it explode a signifigant diatance away from the actual armor. IE a torpedo bulge.
Playing the excellent Sins Of The Prophets mod its a good thing you get so many production boosts as the UNSC as you need a huge mass of frigates as the cov ships toss them aside like nothing at the start as cov ships are so insanely powerful. The Strident can only be deployed by the Infinity, and if you are that far into the game to have built it then you proboly have 4-5 CAS to worry about. That said, if you have flood mode swiched on at least you have a lot of chaff to throw at them. Each infected ship lost to the Cov is a bigger loss as they cost so much more and take so much longer to build. Its such an amazing mod.
While not missiles i believe i read that most navy ships still carrying deck guns have the ability to fire said guns from inside the turrets if the fire control center is taken out. They wont be as effective as they would be if they had the fire control center but they can still fire.
Not nukes, no. But many CWIS type guns on naval ships had a manual override for control. Not sure if it was actually external to the ship hull/superstructure.
Great video man, you just gained a subscriber. Halo has always been my favorite sci-fi and I've loved it since the first game and the first book. It's to bad what it has turned into.
Thanks! To be fair I uploaded that video before I was monetized and used like, 30 seconds of a movie. It was cut up, and I think it was fair use, but I should have seen it coming. Glad to have you aboard.
The Infinity being out of the way...we aren't 100%sure what her status is. But let's not forget that she has a sister ship still under construction, the Eternity. The older frigates were purposed for a bygone era of policing human space against other humans. And naval tactics reflected their assumption that they were the big boy on the block. But when the Covenant navy showed up, UNSC vessels were like children throwing rocks at irl main battle tanks. Preston Cole was one of the first to realize this and fathered the later war tactics of gruella style naval engagements, scoring key early victories with frigates being the backbone of his fleets. After his disappearance, all the UNSC could do were delaying actions until the end of the war. Id love to have a Halo universe game along the lines of the newly released Star Trek: Resurgence. Cinematic, storytelling gameplay that could show us a lot of what these newer frigates and their crew could do versus any manner of enemy.
The 25mm autocannons on the wing mounts of a USN Burk can be fired from the local station and do have a remote control. Missiles cannot be fired remotely
I feel like captain jacob keys is like the halo version of chuck norris. Ya know like keys was boarded by the covenant once and after a brutal melee the covenant ship was destroyed
Halo has such awesome ship names, I swear. UNSC Say My Name UNSC Long is the Night UNSC Edge of Eternity Transcendent Passage Breath of Annihilation Enduring Conviction So cool.
From their appearance, the exposed bridges looks like a modularity thing. They look like they'd be easier to swap in and out at a shipyard. Could easily be wrong, not basing it off anything but aesthetics. But it makes sense to me. Maybe it's a futureproofing decision, or a cost/production thing. The use of windows could also be a sort of ultra redundancy thing, where the structural weakness you get from it on a frigate scale ship isn't enough to offset the extremely niche use in an emergency. Or maybe that's just what some admiral thought, and nobody could tell them no before the designs were in production.
As Anlace is my favorite. Here s my 2 cents. The fact has wjngs and enclosed hull, The UNSC was going for atmospheric. After Covenant made shocking in Atmosphere slipjumps which catastrophically damaged new mombass. UNSC drafted plans for in atmosphere ships to combat enemy forces in Atmosphere or space. On top that the design incorporated total armament of Energy weapons probably avoid "MAC rounds in atmosphere?" When war ended me thinks the Mulsanne withnits very conservative hull design was based on prior frigates to avoid shipyard changes. It also still has guns and missiles. When the war ended in armstice UNSC fear of reignited conflict decided rush production. Anlace was step up in design lessons. - engines center mounted - better energy shields - electronic warfare suites presumably tied to disrupt or counter covenant tech - atmospheric maneuvering to fight ships in atmosphere and repel landing parties
Take a shot everytime the "Keyes" name is said Edit: spaced armor on a ship like Mulsanne would be highly valuable. Plasma hitting the spaced armor would be either completely stopped or wpuld disintegrate/dissipate entirely before hitting the ship itself Much like how spaced armor and slat armor stops shaped charges to a certain extent
5:17 or literally cut off from the rest of the ship. Also, UNSC ships have to have some kind of backup bridge/CIC that’s buried deep inside the hull and isn’t exposed like the main bridge.
In defense of the navigation bridge: Cameras can help, but they have limitations. Now, most of the time, you won't need to see directly. Space is big. That said, docking maneuvers are very delicate. Having visual reference when lining up with spacedocks or docking collars would be very useful. As a result, what I think makes sense is what modern ships tend to do: the bridge is the normal navigation section for normal deployment. The CIC deep in the hull is the Battle command. In numerous modern navies the main bridge is to be evacuated during a fight, and staffed mostly by lookouts. That said, for cultural reasons this isn't always done. I've heard of some cqptains choosing to remain on the bridge during combat for various reasons.
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2:11 Stalwart-Class Light Frigate
12:42 Charon-Class Light Frigate
21:32 Paris-Class Heavy Frigate
39:18 Mulsanne-Class Light Frigate
50:07 Anlace-Class Light Frigate
54:50 Strident-Class Heavy Frigate
Thanks
Heyo! I think if you place the timestamps inside the description it actually implements them into the video runtime, cant remember if it requires studio stuff or not but thought it might help :)
This is just my theory; that Dr. Catherine Halsey's Abstract fractal may have been her attempt at creating the human equivalent of the Domain.
also can you do a much deeper dive in the Paris class frigate
@@jamesfulton215 That's actually a very good idea and probably pretty close to whatever it was Halsey was doing.
As for the Paris I think I hit on pretty much everything I'd have to say, although my breakdowns have gotten a little more detailed since that one. Maybe eventually I'll come back around to these.
Glad my suggestion was helpful! The UNSC Frigates are my favorite ships in all of Sci-Fi. I hope your video doesn't get de-monetized this time.
It didn't get demonetized! I've thought about doing video compilations before, but I wasn't sure if anyone would like them. Thanks for the suggestion, I plan on doing the same for the Destroyers, Cruisers, Carriers, and Corvettes.
Because no one has done this, "Get this, Captain Jacob Keyes."
get this, Captain Jacob Keys
I have parked a Prowler in this comment section courtesy of, get this, Captain Jacob Keyes
If they want to create a Halo-based space RTS, they they should talk to the devs for the Homeworld and include the devs for the Sins of the prophets mod! Between them and 343 ,they could make something truly beautiful!
Get the modd team from empire at war at have them make it
Itd have to be set in the 343 era (bleugh) or be incredibly uncannon else itd be insanly unbalanced.
Give me a more in-depth version of E.A.W's Subsystem and Hardpoint style combat, with Fighterbays/Hangars ect, but on the scale of S.O.A.S.A. or Homeworld, with customised loadouts for ships.
@@jaegergames7042 That feels like a great setup for a single-ship space RPG type game, with the protag being a single, upgradable ship and it's crew. You could choose from a Paris, Charon or Halberd with the Halberd focused on space combat, the Charon on Ground support and the Paris balanced between. As an extra balance, you could have the upgrades cost more for the Halberd, as it is physically larger. A phoenix class could serve as the Story and upgrade "hub" with a Halcyon making appearances for the opening and final battles.
Crew and complements would function as being a percentage based system (start with 1k marines and could upgrade to 900 w. 100 ODST and so forth), with the "second-tier" units requiring more "points" to purchase. Ship upgrades would be a straight upgrade.
The Hero Ship story would begin during the battle of Reach, with them having just been ordered to pull out. A Marathon "takes a bullet" as it were for them, buying them to escape. The Halcyon fights a retreat alongside them and they have a "Good luck, Captain" "You, too" moment. After they jump out, there's a brief battle between them and a Covvie corvette that managed to track them, which serves as a brutal tutorial. After the battle, they notice a distress call from a nearby ship, jump to it and it turns out to a be a damaged Phoenix. The Phoenix Captain is senior to yours and assumes a sort-of command role. The situation is that, so far as they're both concerned, the fleet is considered lost. They decide to fight a guerilla campaign against the Covvies using data pulled from the Corvette's computers. There's a campaign of raiding poorly-defended Covvie sites and scavenge from trashed UNSC and Innie locations marked as Glassed. They find pockets of survivors which join the crew. Eventually a small Covvie fleet tracks them down and a desperate Last Stand is made by the Hero Ship and Phoenix and the Halcyon arrives just in time to even the odds and they have a brutal victory. The Phoenix goes down swinging, ramming a Covvie cruiser and taking it out. The battle is close to lost. The Halcyon is disabled and the Hero Ship has been mortally wounded. Then *another* covvie fleet jumps in and all seems doomed... until the new fleet attacks the previous one. The stunned survivors are greeted by the Elite Commander of the new fleet and informed of the changed situation (schism) and he offers to lead them both back to a nearby UNSC system. The Hero Ship begrudgingly accepts and is abandoned, the crew transferring to the Halcyon. There's a slow camera pan across the Phoenix's wreckage and the Hero Ship's battered corpse and the New Meat Lt. asks the Capt if it was all worth it. The Capt sighs and says "I sure hope so Lt." The ships jump out.
*Roll credits along a sad version of the theme song*
A competent dev team could've made several entire games from scratch in the time it take Sins of the Prophets devs to put out one small update (which would just be yet another graphical update and little else). They aren't nearly as good or competent as their fanboys claim, and from personal experience, the lead devs are dickheads. The fact their mods and their partners' mods have essentially gone dead for years is telling enough, aside from token comments to string people alone once every few months. Let's not delve into the fact the engine they mod is old, clunky, and janky. And the game itself is practically on hospice care in regards to player numbers and they have zero plans to move it to the new Sins game, lol.
“Get this, Captain Jacob keyes” lol 😂 I love it
I think the Mulsanne class and it’s laser is designed to specifically combat Covenant ships in a support role. The main reason the Covenant were winning the space front in the Human-Covenant war was partly because of their energy shields while human ships had no shields. However, as shown in halo wars Covenant shields have been shown to be susceptible to super heated plasma. Lasers are in a way concentrated super heated plasma. As shown in halo infinity when the Mulsanne fired the super carriers shields flickered, indicating it was out making the ship vulnerable to macs and nukes. In other words the Mulsanne class is a support ship designed to make covenant ships vulnerable to other UNSC ships.
i think its wings are radiators for its weapons, engines and shields mostly. with spaced armor being a secondary effect, which works with plasma as vacuum distance is the best protection from heat. it may help with shield or splipspace geometry too.
The Mulsanne takes out the shields so that the 600+ Archer missiles fired from the other side of the system hit the Covvie ship directly.
I think it's just a general upgrade package to replace the outdated MACs. Kinetic weapons deal a lot of damage if they hit, but dumbfire projectiles don't typically do so well in the vacuum of space unless you're in brawling range, which in this case is anywhere below 50,000 kilometers, and this is exclusively due to their velocity.
A MAC can only canonically engage at just over 16,000km, which is fairly realistic for such a weapon. That worked against the Covenant because they didn't know how to use their ships properly, but it would be woefully inadequate against ships that knew how to target with laser weapons out to 80-100,000km (which is pretty reasonable for such a weapon system), or had missiles with on board guidance systems (which the UNSC does), which are only limited in range by their delta-v (how much they can change velocity in a vacuum). So long as they're not shot down or jammed missiles can reliably hit targets even further away than laser weapons.
this guy does not know how lasers work
they’re focused beams of light, not plasma
@@specs.weedle Yeah I was about to say the same lol. Laser literally means Light Amplification by Stimulated Emission of Radiation
Everyone knows the UNSC Charon is actually a halberd-class destroyer😉
Another RvB fan I see
NGL it would have been cooler for the Invention to have been a heavily upgraded Charon class, since Freelancer of all projects would defo have the resources for it.
@@cookiecraze1310 FR the director had the funds. You could see that with him literally owning The Mother of Invention. Maybe RT just didnt wanna deal haha
No you're thinking of the "Staff of Charon" totally different ship.
its gotta be a puma
Same as the original two frigate videos guys, I don't want to get anybody's hopes up too high.
Being a big fan of these ships, you'll get no complaints out of this dude.
do you also have a full video of both the destroyers & cruisers or would you consider doing it?
@@stangundam01 Those I'm going to have to do piecemeal, but once those are done I'm going to compile them all like this.
2:46 complement-STA
3:48 armament-STA
14:04 complement-CHA
14:34 armament-CHA
22:47 armament-PAR
23:06 complement-PAR
43:05 armament (no comp)-MUL
53:17 armament-ANL
56:25. Complement-STR
58:30 armament-STR
@Jayden Andrews nice
This is my first video of yours, and it did not disappoint! It actually kept my chaotic ADHD brain's attention - fabulous stuff 🤘
15:21 the obly armmed spacecraft in history was a soviet space station equipt with the same 23mm autocannon armment seen on soviet bombers as defensive armment
30:11 not to mention the first confirmed instance of a UNSC and Covenant docking preformed with not only non-hostile, but directly beneficial intentions.
I honestly feel like the Charon class is undermanned in terms of it's ground force complement. Modern day LHD's (which is basically what the Charon is in terms of role) like the Wasp-class can carry almost up to 2000 troops. And those ships are about half the size of a Charon.
You know what? Come to think of it, Halo does have a size/scale issue especially when it comes to ships
Installation 00's channel has a video on this very issue actually.
Especially when it comes to THE PILLAR OF AUTUMN (capitalized for iconicity)
If I remember correctly, Installation00 calculated if you want the ships to be scaled correctly to fit Pelicans/Longswords, they have to all be scaled up roughly 3-3.5 times... So a 535m Paris suddenly becomes 1600-1800m... The ~1500m Autumns become... Well you get the idea...
@@navb0tactual Yeah I saw that video. He makes a very good point too considering the very clear discrepancies
@@dukewild5071 The Pillar of Autumn is the BIGGEST source of size issues and discrepancies, and I'm not even talking about the warthog run (although that is a massive factor). Halo Warfleet did a horrible case of a cross section where the 8 hangar bays on both the starboard and portside are instead filled with cargo instead of... you know... bloody aircraft!
I'm not even kidding, they retconned the hangar bays as cargo bays instead...
Like who the hell is in charge of the lore details at 343?
To describe something as positioned closer to a central axis, you can use the word proximal. I also doubt the stalwarts were 0.9 metric tons.
Yeah I’m very confused about this weight lmao
I think he *meant* to say 0.93 *million* metric tons. Probably just reading off a script and didn't catch himself, as that's what the wiki lists its weight as.
Always found it interesting that Halo even bothers to consider how much a space ship could weigh, even if weights are only given for a few ships.
Not even joking i got goosebumps when you said In Amber Clad! God i love the name of the UNSC ships! They're so impactful without being cumbersome to say.
15:21
Howdy, E-3 in the US Navy here. As far as I know (and I may be horribly wrong so someone please verify what I’m saying), all weapons systems are controlled within the ships of the USN, with the exception of crew served weapons such as the M2 Browning and other such machine guns.
Good job, I'm subscribing because it's the first channel I've seen that fully talks about the fleet of humanity in Halo; I hope that the games continue to release more content from this, so that you can tell us more about what is missing.
I wanna see more naval combat in Halo
Big facts
I think this is the only time I will ever side with the British pronunciation of something
Then I will kindly ask you to stop speaking ENGLISH.
I'm from New York and we've always said Iroquois the British way
@@rexxmen I’m from Arizona and I say it the British way
@@rexxmen oh my fuck, it’s named after the native people I pronounce it that way because of the color and rock that’s spilled similarly, turquoise. Iroquois
Never mind I pronounce Iroquois the American way
Side with the British way? 😂 You're speaking our language, our way is the correct way. Are you going to tell the Spanish they aren't pronouncing their language correctly? 😂 Americans
10:05 THANK YOU! I’ve always wondered how you pronounced that, now I know and don’t have to use “Huey” every time I think of that model of helicopter.
For some reason, the most incredible part about all of this is that ive found someone as nerdy about halo ships as me
I hate how halo 4 and 5 smoothed out some ships. It's a bad move. The ridged look of halos Frigates look better.
@@ProtogenLaboratories truuuuuuuu
Instilation 00?
Get this…. Captain Jacob Keys
Because at least one person has done this, "Get this, Captain Jacob Keyes."
"Get this, Captain Jacob Keyes"
Can't wait for the episode on that Mech suit, piloted by a demolitions member UNTRAINED and with NO PRIOR KNOWLEDGE he absolutely ripped through those Covies like they were tissue paper. Can you imagine if those became production units rather than a one off prototype?
I'm waiting for the day that HALO gets a space based naval RTS. Both sides have such cool ships that are wasted as window dressing for Chief dancing on grunt bodies. The closest thing to it is a Sins of a Sollar Empire mod.
Like Halo Wars but Stellaris? Fuck yeah that sounds awesome!
@@SamanthaLaurier Not exactly, something more like Homeworld would be better
@@starliner2498Or battle fleet Gothic
Awesome video. Love the Halo content. Keep it coming
The captain keyes jumpscares are golden
The ships of the line for the UNSC. No matter what they are, the frigates of the UNSC Navy will always be an integral part of any UNSC naval operation. They're small, but pack a punch. No small feat for such vessels, they really are some of the greatest ships the UNSC has. And the legecy of each of the classes, especially the three from during the war, will forever be remembered and honored.
Glad I got this video in my recommendations, I'm going to enjoy these videos if they're going to be this good. Keep it up, this is really great!
41:39 aka, getting “Bismarck’d” (space edition)
With how compressed the UNSC frigates are having exposed bridge's make sense. If anything it would increase its survivability, as these ships tend to get cut in half along the hull more often than having their bridge's caved in.
The Strident is such a wonderful class! Love it.
Hey man just wanted to say keep up the good work! Your breakdown videos are truly unique and very entertaining. Can’t wait to see more from this channel in the future!
Also, Would love to see you breakdown the UNSC Infinity or the Infinity class in general at some point!
One day... but not today. It will be a humongous video.
pretty good video, i watched the whole thing. halo has a really cool universe and lore. and the ship design i always thought was really cool.
he do have a big head.
I just wanted to say, I love your comedy when it comes to the famous halo characters commanding ships, you’ve got yourself a new subscriber!~
Ps: 30:28 perfect edit
The Frigates especially remind me of the A-10 Warthog/Thunderbolt doctrine. Create a massive gun, now make it fly.
This is awsome man keep up the good work
To make a point for exposed bridges with windows (because they are cool)
I’m working on a Sci-fy setting rn where the two factions of humanity are at war, and one of them (The RHW) has very VERY advanced Electronic warfare, advanced enough that the other factions (the MCFP) does not even try to fight them on the EW front, and sense the RHW can just mess with their sensors to an extrodenary degree MCFP ships have bridges with windows to dive by sight in combat to render the RHW’s electronic attacks useless
They also use them for good old light signals in case of complete coms cut off between ships via RHW electronic attacks they resort to good ol flashing spotlights at each other
1:02:15 The Strident’s shields did flare in the cutscene with the Infinity, when Purple fighters rained missiles and around that time it made a reaction to the frigate’s shields.
Okay, outside the awesomeness named "Forward Unto Dawn", "Promise of Dawn" and "Ready-Or-Not" are pretty sick names for ships.
Saying "Put some propulsion on a gun" makes me think of the A10 Warthog. It's basically a big gun with two engines, two wings, and a cockpit.
a10 cool in concept but pretty mid, all due respect
@@michaelcastellano588you’re wrong buddy
@@inclement_weathr5564 nuh uh
@@inclement_weathr5564hes not lol
The a10 is trash
All of the UNSC Naval Forces are secretly under the command of Captain Jacob Keyes
I'll try not to gush too much, so I'll just say.....This was really thorough. Superb visuals, musical score and really good Narration. Professional Grade video indeed. 😎👍🏾
I had two hits of nostalgia I was not expecting to get in this video. One was some of the photoaged used is from the game sins of a solar empire. I recognized the halo mod as I had just played that a few days ago. The second was music from mass effect around 47:00.
Regarding spaced armour, the main use in space would be to prevent damage from weapons such as plasma torpedoes by causing them to detonate on the external armour. Any kind of continuous directed beam weapon, like i believe the covenant plasma lances are, would just punch through the spaced armour and continue through the vessel.
Most covenant ships dont even have plasma lances do they?
@Robert Harris I don't remember for certain but I'm pretty sure only Cas class carriers and up, with some minor exceptions, had them.
11:14 Gonna stop that there. Homefleet had around 84 ships at the battle for Earth. The largest UNSC fleet to face the covenant was battlegroup India with 162 ships briefly bolstered with 55 ini ships in the battle of the Psi Serpentis system.
There aren't any numbers on the size of home fleet. The best we get is "hundreds of ships"
Hundreds plural, so at least 200. The Halo 2 Anniversary cutscene that said 84 was only referring to the fleets that immediately engaged Regret.
Home fleet was composed of multiple fleets.
Not to mention the 300 orbital defense platforms
@@gammacompanymark Ah that detail slipped by on my part. Thanks for the correction.
0.04% the speed of light is 26million840thousand 26,840,000 MPH in a mass of 3000 tons.
That is Mach 35,084. The Chelyabinsk Meteor was traveling at/about Mach 55 and weighed 13,227 us tons. The force of that mass impacting Air at that speed was sufficient to create a 500 kiloton explosion over the city of Chelyabinsk.
I always knew how poeerful macs can be. Esp super macs. But this really puts it into perspective.
What a mess of measurements, use metric and not mph
@@robertharris6092 MACs be like :Omae wa mu shinderu
Finding someone who is just a mega nerd (and I use that term endearingly) about Halo Lore, warms my heart.
the footage taken from SoaSE with the Halo mod brings a smile to my face.
Only 6 Minutes in and It Feel’s like I’m Pondering a Good Long Movie
And I’m in It
Great Work
Thank You
40:50 i don't think that the 'wings" are meant to be spaced armor, they could simply be large heat sinks that the heat generated by the ship's engines, machinery and occupants are fed into and radiated out of the ship, while also providing some level of extra protection against incoming fire
it's very easy to heat something up, it's very difficult to cool things down especially in space where there's no medium like air to transfer energy into
11:10 that expression! 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Loved that you used Sins gameplay over the top... ive sunk many hours into that game/mod
I just put this in my songs playlist so when I’m jamming out to music I just randomly get a breakdown of all the UNSC ships lol
Very good video. Get this capt-
Get this, Captain Jacob Keyes!
Great breakdown of the fleet. Great video!
20:24 we know for a fact some of the crew of Forward onto Dawn made it out alive. As Sgt. Stacker who was on board the Forward onto Dawn is in Halo 4.
Keys is everywhere
14:02 babe wake up, new Christmas song just dropped.
Get this, Captain Jacob Keys.
40:10 spaced armor was mainly used for either small projectiles. Or explosive munitions. Mainly HEAT. Which physicaly cant "penetrate" spaced armor. And with normal HE you keep the ship from taking damage by having it explode a signifigant diatance away from the actual armor. IE a torpedo bulge.
The scream… 28:25
Is chilling…
Playing the excellent Sins Of The Prophets mod its a good thing you get so many production boosts as the UNSC as you need a huge mass of frigates as the cov ships toss them aside like nothing at the start as cov ships are so insanely powerful. The Strident can only be deployed by the Infinity, and if you are that far into the game to have built it then you proboly have 4-5 CAS to worry about.
That said, if you have flood mode swiched on at least you have a lot of chaff to throw at them. Each infected ship lost to the Cov is a bigger loss as they cost so much more and take so much longer to build.
Its such an amazing mod.
I like your funny words, magic man
While not missiles i believe i read that most navy ships still carrying deck guns have the ability to fire said guns from inside the turrets if the fire control center is taken out. They wont be as effective as they would be if they had the fire control center but they can still fire.
The algorithm has blessed me with a fantastic Halo lore channel! Huzzah! Huzzah!
The Pillar of Autumn, Spirit of Fire.
Memorable UNSC ships :)
Really enjoyed this. Hope to see similar videos for unsc destroyer, cruiser or carrier.
The keyes the most fearless captains on the unsc
Did... did you just say "Gambeson for spaceships"? I camed in my pantaloons
the UNSC Frigates have a great look and vibe.
This is a awesome video good information im subscribing
MAN, that guy really has a massive head
It's freakish, really
Not nukes, no. But many CWIS type guns on naval ships had a manual override for control. Not sure if it was actually external to the ship hull/superstructure.
Get this, Captain Jacob Keyes.
Great video man, you just gained a subscriber. Halo has always been my favorite sci-fi and I've loved it since the first game and the first book. It's to bad what it has turned into.
Sorry to hear TH-cam was just being TH-cam about your content... your stuff is so fresh and cool, hope the best for you :>
Thanks! To be fair I uploaded that video before I was monetized and used like, 30 seconds of a movie. It was cut up, and I think it was fair use, but I should have seen it coming. Glad to have you aboard.
Now this is juicy Halo content
The named ships I can recall offhand are the Spirit of Fire, In Amber Clad, Infinity, Pillar of Autumn, The Silent Shadow, and The Vengeance
The Infinity being out of the way...we aren't 100%sure what her status is. But let's not forget that she has a sister ship still under construction, the Eternity.
The older frigates were purposed for a bygone era of policing human space against other humans. And naval tactics reflected their assumption that they were the big boy on the block. But when the Covenant navy showed up, UNSC vessels were like children throwing rocks at irl main battle tanks. Preston Cole was one of the first to realize this and fathered the later war tactics of gruella style naval engagements, scoring key early victories with frigates being the backbone of his fleets. After his disappearance, all the UNSC could do were delaying actions until the end of the war.
Id love to have a Halo universe game along the lines of the newly released Star Trek: Resurgence. Cinematic, storytelling gameplay that could show us a lot of what these newer frigates and their crew could do versus any manner of enemy.
Another amazing video. I look forward to the Vindication video
It's goin up some time this week, all done just gotta touch it up a bit.
The 25mm autocannons on the wing mounts of a USN Burk can be fired from the local station and do have a remote control. Missiles cannot be fired remotely
Most modern warships have a 'Battle Bridge' where the command crew (or their replacements) can retreat to to command
I feel like captain jacob keys is like the halo version of chuck norris. Ya know like keys was boarded by the covenant once and after a brutal melee the covenant ship was destroyed
I'm subscribing just because you know what a Whipple Shield is
One of my favorite UNSC ship is a former colony turned warship The Spirit of Fire
Halo has such awesome ship names, I swear.
UNSC Say My Name
UNSC Long is the Night
UNSC Edge of Eternity
Transcendent Passage
Breath of Annihilation
Enduring Conviction
So cool.
From their appearance, the exposed bridges looks like a modularity thing. They look like they'd be easier to swap in and out at a shipyard. Could easily be wrong, not basing it off anything but aesthetics. But it makes sense to me. Maybe it's a futureproofing decision, or a cost/production thing. The use of windows could also be a sort of ultra redundancy thing, where the structural weakness you get from it on a frigate scale ship isn't enough to offset the extremely niche use in an emergency. Or maybe that's just what some admiral thought, and nobody could tell them no before the designs were in production.
OOH RAW
As Anlace is my favorite. Here s my 2 cents. The fact has wjngs and enclosed hull, The UNSC was going for atmospheric. After Covenant made shocking in Atmosphere slipjumps which catastrophically damaged new mombass. UNSC drafted plans for in atmosphere ships to combat enemy forces in Atmosphere or space.
On top that the design incorporated total armament of Energy weapons probably avoid "MAC rounds in atmosphere?"
When war ended me thinks the Mulsanne withnits very conservative hull design was based on prior frigates to avoid shipyard changes. It also still has guns and missiles.
When the war ended in armstice UNSC fear of reignited conflict decided rush production. Anlace was step up in design lessons.
- engines center mounted
- better energy shields
- electronic warfare suites presumably tied to disrupt or counter covenant tech
- atmospheric maneuvering to fight ships in atmosphere and repel landing parties
Extremitous is now in my lexicon, thank you.
Get this: Captain Jacob Keyes
Take a shot everytime the "Keyes" name is said
Edit: spaced armor on a ship like Mulsanne would be highly valuable. Plasma hitting the spaced armor would be either completely stopped or wpuld disintegrate/dissipate entirely before hitting the ship itself
Much like how spaced armor and slat armor stops shaped charges to a certain extent
what if I told you captain Keyes had that dawg in him?
Gettysburgs ascendant justice really did get the Gettysburg some ascendant justice ⚖️
5:17 or literally cut off from the rest of the ship.
Also, UNSC ships have to have some kind of backup bridge/CIC that’s buried deep inside the hull and isn’t exposed like the main bridge.
In defense of the navigation bridge:
Cameras can help, but they have limitations. Now, most of the time, you won't need to see directly. Space is big. That said, docking maneuvers are very delicate. Having visual reference when lining up with spacedocks or docking collars would be very useful. As a result, what I think makes sense is what modern ships tend to do: the bridge is the normal navigation section for normal deployment. The CIC deep in the hull is the Battle command.
In numerous modern navies the main bridge is to be evacuated during a fight, and staffed mostly by lookouts. That said, for cultural reasons this isn't always done. I've heard of some cqptains choosing to remain on the bridge during combat for various reasons.
Probably my favourite halo video