(95)The Franz Joseph Designs
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- In today's episode of Truth OR Myth, we're taking a look at the Franz Joseph Starfleet Technical Manual Designs, in a now updated video from early in my channels career! I hope you enjoy!
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"I'm not sure what the extra 5 crewmembers did on the Saladin, but I'm sure it was important."
Ah yes you see they were the ones who stuffed the rocks into the consoles for when they went boom. Very, very important job.
The Saladin had five guys who's sole job was placing rocks in consoles and the other ships had a rotaring staff that handled it. 😁 That's why you always had to check the duty roster when serving aboard the smaller ships. 😃
Were they wearing a red shirt?
Every crew needs an expandable inventory of red shirts!
Seriously, I'd bet they were weapons control officers. With no torpedoes, and only one phaser bank, the remainder would be unneeded.
A lot of red shirts served in the 23rd century.
Great idea for a video. Until recently, Franz Joseph's work has been way overlooked. During the 70s Trek great drought, however, Joseph's "Blueprints" and "Technical Manual" were manna from heaven.
Absolutely 100% true... Most people dont realize just how important this man's work was to children like me :)
I received this book as a Christmas present as a kid back in 75, as well as a book put out by nasa showing all the spaceship designs they had at the time, no matter how crazy they were, the nuclear propelled rocket for example, and these two book shaped my love for Sci Fi to this very day decades later.
You and me both :)
@@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics Glad I have the softcover F.Joseph Technical Manual but I don't have the first book you mentioned.
This is what I've always loved about 23rd century Starfleet: modularity. Just rearrange the parts, and you'll have a new class of ship ready for whatever mission profile you've got in mind. Even the Dominion War era "Frankenstein Fleet" kitbashes seemed sloppy and half-hearted by comparison. In the words of Jadzia Dax: "I love classic 23rd century design." 🖖😎👍
I love TOS era designs, they have smooth and cleen lines. So elegant and pleasing
I do too... There is something so magical about these older designs that has never really been captured since... Although of course there are much more realistic and beautiful designs, these ones will always have a special place in my heart :)
the beauty of simplicity. so streamlined and elegant.
"[The Constitution class] has the names and registrations on the back, and let me tell you there are a lot."
Yep, 143 to be exact. I had that same book and an open afternoon, so I sat down and counted out each one. Took me like an hour with all the checks and the re-checks I was doing to make sure I wasn't missing any.
Then you know my pain in researching all these videos ;)
Wonder when the other 131 were constructed because when they went back in time, by accident, to 1965 I believe, Kirk said to the AF Captain that there were only 12 like her in the fleet. Didn't care too much for later classes of star ship, my two favorites were
1. Constitution class
2. Constitution refit.
Though I loved the captains chair in the original series.
I'll try and find and buy those two books again, I had the first when it first came out.
@@55Quirll Perhaps that both completed construction and survived their voyages? The Enterprise did become famous by being one of the few to actually coming back.
We know of 16 certain ships, none of which are the class ship herself, the USS Constitution.
Thank God for Franz Joseph! This book and his attention to detail is uncanny and has expanded the Star Trek universe by leaps and bounds! These ship designs are BEAUTIFUL and "fascinating" and Many Thanks to you for making this remarkable video looking at these ships tells us as fans about the wonderful adventures that are to come! "Live long and prosper" RIP Franz Joseph🙏❤🖖
He was quite a talented man :)
The Federation Class is my favorite. When I found out about this class I also found out about saucer speration
The Franz Joseph designs are wonderful.
My personal headcanon on the early Saladan clas destroyer was that most lacked antimatter reactors, using the extra space for extra deuterium fuel tanks and a larger/more fuson reactors for the impulse engines, allowing it to use fusion reactor powered warp drive like the Romulan bird of prey in Balance of terror, resulting in a shorter ranged ship that was far easier to mass produce and use to bulk up defences of important star systems and stations, or fly patrol routes within its fuel range.
They would have to refuel far more often, but the cost and material savings allowed them to be built in far larger numbers, saving dilithium for use in longer ranged ships.
The ones with antimatter reactors were used for longer ranged missions such as patroling between the more outlying colonies.
As they mention in the start of ST:TMP when discussing the refit Enterprise, the refit used power from the warp core to power the phasers, catching Kirk off guard, implying TOS era designs used the warp core to power far less systems, making the lack of a warp core mater far less.
Really enjoyed the update! Would you be up for creating a video on Franz Joseph's design for Starfleet HQ? I always thought that was such a cool design! And, maybe adding on to that a bit about the container for personnel that the Ptolemy carried?
I, too, was fascinated with the transport ships and their pods when I got the book in the 90s. I'm glad I wasn't the only one.
You certainly werent :)
I really like some of his designs, I hope we get these ships in Strange New Worlds.
You and me both :)
@@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics Thanks, for what it's worth, he was a real genius.
It's worth a LOT and he certainly was :)
This is one of the most enjoyable episodes. The Starfleet Technical Manual and the Star Trek Concordance were among my most joyful childhood purchases. Thank you for shining light upon my favorite class, Ptolemy. In my mind’s universe, a refitted Miranda class variant would continue the “unexciting” important role for supply/transports in the “safe” areas of the Alpha Quadrant.
I've got an odd, out-there request for you. When _Star Trek III: The Search for Spock_ came out, the introduced a new ship design in the U.S.S. Excelsior. They also came out with blueprints for the Intrepid class (which the Excelsior supposedly was; at least according to the blueprints). These blueprints are radically different from what was show on screen (a lot more angular); but I really prefer this design over the movie design. I would *love* to see a 3-D representation of this version of the U.S.S. Intrepid. I know that's a big ask (basically asking for a whole new ship), but I figure it never hurts to ask. 😁
The summer of 1975 I was between fifth and sixth grades. In a Starlog Magazine ad I saw the Technical Manual the Enterprise Blueprints for sale and I BEGGED my mom and dad to get them. I still have them and they're in good shape. I can't tell you how many times I read the manual and pored over those blueprints. Such a wonderful memory.
Lovely ships
Reminded me about me and my empire manual
Another masterpiece. Can't wait for your next video. Hopefully some more FASA ships soon.
No worries, things are in the works :)
I got the Franz Joseph book years ago and I still have it. I loved the new designs and also loved to see the updated versions fans created based on the Constitution-lcass upgrade. Another excellent video! Thank you for sharing these beauties with 3D models!
A Dreadnought class Enterprise, commanded by Captain Will Ryker was shown in a Star Trek TNG episode. It used a hugh phaser cannon to destroy a Klingon warship.
Thank you so very much for bringing these ships to reality the way you did. It literally brought tears to my eyes watching the video. Now we have something more to look at than just the Tech Manual to experience the ships in their natural habitat.
I really love this video; brings back my childhood days. (I also always wanted a copy of this book too...) Thanks!
Glad you enjoyed it! You're very welcome :)
This takes me back to my childhood as well!
Beautiful work!
Thank you Hank :)
@@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics no, THANK YOU!!!
I know these videos are a lot of work! Keep it up!
And I can't tell you how APPRECIATIVE I am for this! You definitely made a time machine! I felt my childhood again and the sense of wonderment and possibilities that Star Trek gave me back then!
I still feel that with the new, but not quite like the original! You captured that!
Thank you!!!
Well, you're very welcome :)
I loved every minute of it! You take such great time to research everything and give it justice and respect. Thank you so much for spending your time on everything you do. Love long and prosper! ✨🖖✨
Glad you enjoyed it! And it's my pleasure :) Thank you for the continued support Jamie :)
I am happy to own the red cover in the black plastic hard outer cover. Yardsales are fantastic.
I've sat looking and imagining being inside the giant Starbase, or the passenger shipping container.. its such a good book. Awesome video.
Many a day I've done the same thing :)
I loved the first video, the remake is even better. Mr. Joseph would be pleased
Thank you so much :)
Franz Joseph was the unsung genius for Star Trek. He helped make Matt Jeffries' designs feel so plausible, and the SF Technical Manual was sort of a refuge for me. He also did fold-out blueprints for the Constitution class that are simply beautiful as a companion to his book. If you can find them, I highly suggest acquiring them.
You must be from my generation. I loved Franz Joseph's work. I remember I used to day dream about owning the Star Trek Tech manual back in '75 (I was 10 or 11), I was able to finally buy the book in '86 (the large anniversary edition) at Forbidden Planet comic shop in NYC.
Awww the memories right? :)
@@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics Indeed.
I have quite a fondness for the designs in that old book.
You and me both :)
1 i got a headache and 2 i couldn't find it 🤣🤣🤣 brilliant. Another cracking video. The amount of work you ptu into these films is brilliant.
Thank you Jase, I try :)
Nicely done. Thank you. I remember the book and all the classes from my childhood. It was a nice rememberence.
I love traveling down memory lane on occasion :)
I saved up my allowances for 6 months when I was 8 or 9 to buy this book for myself back in 1983/84. I still have it, its in really good condition and sits on my bookcase right next to my chair. I still pull it out every so often and just look at it and enjoy.
I loved this manual. My parents had both the Tech Manual & The Star Trek Concordance books & I read those over and over. My father also had the Star Fleet Battles game that used the Tech Manual also. To me, Franz Joseph Designs will always be canon!
The CA/CC DD/Scout and Tug.. brings back fond memories Star Fleet Battles..
The 9 year is a darn short planned life time.. maybe that is like the the Refuel Cycle for Nuclear powered ships ?
Thank you for this video !!!
Thank you for this video! I've been watching for these ships to appear in some incarnation of Star Trek since I bought the Technical Manual back in '76!
Still have my copy on my shelf, along with a few other encyclopedias and tech manuals. Great video!
I'm wondering if the in-canon reason we didn't see outright warships in TOS is that their form, function, and capabilities were kept classified so enemies might find it harder to match them.
:) Look at you creating head canon :)
I mean, if I recall my old copy of the 70s Tech Manual, the Dreadnaught design was blacked out in several places for security purposes.
Also, the Romulans and Klingons didn't want another warship around, one probably more powerful than any ship they had.
The Ptolomy class USS Masada was on the old PC game Star Trek 25th anniversary. It was the first time I saw a TOS ship that wasn't a Constitution class.
I remember that as well :)
Franz Joseph designs (blueprints as well as the Technical Manual) have always been so cool! Enjoyed this video update (enjoyed the first one a while back).
The Hermes class actually was represented twice in Trek pictures. The first time was in TMP during the scene after the Klingons attack V'Ger. In the background you can hear Epsilon IX calling for Columbia and they use her registry number NCC-621. I remember seeing her name in the Technical Manual after I had watched TMP and it stuck with me! :D
I love the Franz Joseph designs, so did the production teams in Star Trek films 1-3 and a few other appearances in other shows
I still have my copy of this book that I opbtained back in the seventies. I remember that the modelling and sports store down the road from where I grew up has an 'enterprising' modeller who convrerted some AMT conny kits into the Saladin class and I think he even built a Federation Class dreadnought.wonderful stuff.
As a teen, I built the AMT model of the Enterprise, and a bit later a second which I converted to a Saladin Class. Fun times. Recently built the AMT kit again. Prices are sure higher now, a few decades later!
The Franz Joseph manual was the basis / springboard for the ships of the Starfleet Universe, as found in Starfleet Battles, a game from Amarillo Design Bureau. The notable differences between the FJDM and SFB is that the number of phasers and photons are generally increased, and the addition of a Battleship, a Light Cruiser, a Frigate, additional tug pods (Battle, Carrier, Troop, Scout) and a pair of "war" classes -- stripped down designs with very little more than what was necessary for combat, as their losses were expected in wartime.
You may want to do a couple of videos going down this rabbit hole as well...
I remember playing Star Fleet Battles when I was a kid. I still have some of the plastic models and loved the dreadnought design. Wish they could remake that game. Miss those other races like the Lyrans, Kristin, ISC, and Tholians. Good memories from a simpler time.
@@coreydoty687 What do you mean, "remake"? The game is still in production!
The FASA stuff opened my mind to bold new possibilities, and this channel directly ties the warp engines to my imagination. Thank you!
I love these designs. The Star Fleet Technical Manual was a lifeline to those of us hungering for more Star Trek content in the days before the novels really got started - when Spock Must Die was the only one. I've really enjoyed your look at these designs; this video and the individual ones you did for the classes. I hope that you plan to do an individual video on the Ptolomy Class as well. I've always loved that versatile design. I could always imagine a fleet of these ships carrying colonists and supplies to a new world.
Always loved the Franz Joseph book - first saw it in a long since closed RPG/Table Top gaming shop I used to frequent, where I also first saw the table top Star Fleet Battles games.
If I recall Star Fleet Battles had versions of most of these ships, including battle pods and fighter pods for the Ptolemy class (and other species equivalents), turning the humble tugs into surprisingly powerful fire support ships or carriers if used correctly.
Thing I love about this, is that the saucers are ALL THE SAME SIZE…
So in theory, starfleet yards could in theory simply mass produce the basic saucer components, then much like old sea faring sister ships, the finished hull could then be outfitted to suit…as the interior layout would differ form class to class…with some areas on one class being for example crew quarters, whereas on a ship without a secondary hull, might instead be taken up be engineering…
Yes, we like our ships.
Indeed we do :)
I want to say that I too owned The Franz Joseph Designs Tech Manual (Though Lost to Time)... I wished that all those in the Manual was cannon.. Even if it was considered a Failure by StarFleet.. Franz Joseph had a good Eye for expanding the TOS ships... I know that the Dreadnought Class (Federation Class) was honored in the TNG episode All good thing..
Odd Fact: Franz Joseph Passed away on my Birth day when I was in my Teens..
Well all we have in one last class that needs to be canon, so cross your fingers :)
I think all Gen-Xers must have had a similar memory.
Actually my older brother (a baby boomer) got the manual and the official Enterprise blueprints for Christmas. But I too read them from cover to cover many times (especially the Technical Manual).
It’s hard to explain to younger people today, but this was much more than just the first Star Trek merchandise ever released, though that in itself was significant. It wasn’t stupid childish crap like a coloring book, it was hard science fiction material! The level of detail in it was astounding. And for a show that most of it’s younger fans never even saw on prime time network TV!
And the makers of the film ST:TWoK did indeed use pages scanned directly from Joseph’s book for those images on the bridge displays!
Exactly, it was the world for many of us for a long time really... Also why I wanted to bring it forward in the first place :)
I'm a boomer and can relate to your brother
Back in the mid 70s a local mall had a hobby shop and 1 day I went in to see what they had and the owner was in the process of building those Franz Joseph ships from the AMT kit.
I've always assumed the Saladin's extra 5 crewmembers were needed to maintain and operate the class' additional weapons.
Awesome video. The TOS Constitution Class is my favorite starfleet ship design
I had the Tech Manual too. What surprised and delighted me was the adaptation of a Dread ought into two Pocket novels, Dread ought and Battlestations. That version of the class went by the name Star Empire, which is rather weird, considering that the Dominant government went by that name.
I love those designs and your take on them. I’d be very happy if somebody did the same thing with TMP era ships.
Thank you. This video brought back fond memories.
This was very inlightening I am a huge geek of starship design and someday would like to design my own, I also never knew that Era of star trek had that many ship designs.
Great back story about you and the library.
Thanks for this video. Sorry for the external link. I enjoy your videos a lot. Well researched concise and eloquent. Keep it up.
I really like your departure to this area. Great job!!! If you ever get around to maybe you could do a video on the different space stations. There seems to be a few different ones and if anyone can find out info on them, it would be you. Thanks for your hard work.
No worries, in the future more videos like this are coming... I have a HUGE reference library from the past 40 Years of being a Trek Fan that I think people might enjoy :)
Some really nice artwork in this video!
Well done.
Very cool designs.
Huge and repeated thank you's to Karen and her amazingly imaginative dad from this fan as well!!!
My friend, first... Many thank yous to you as well as many Tylenol. Bless you, your determination, and your Laserdiscs.
Question: Is it my imagination or is there a distinct similarity between the ship here and the screengrabs I've seen of the California Class in the new animated series?
Man, overall... This is such a great video. I really enjoyed it. Although, the puns, man... If my wife heard that, she'd think we were related as I'm guilty of MANY Trek puns that I Klingon to as well.
Puns are the secret spice of life my friend ;) :P
@@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics - Amen to that my friend!
Good update. Karen hangs out in a Franz Joseph FB groups too and is a class act
She was amazing! I was very touched :) I Hope she get to see this updated version :)
Great video thanks
Thank you very much for this nice video. Very nice Modells
Glad you like them Dominik! :)
Dude, it's been so long since I've seen the LaserVision screen. I can still remember the sound effects on that screen when the logo "whooshes" and the star "dings" on the screen. My mom and dad still have their 300+ LaserDiscs somewhere in storage, but sadly no player.
somewhere around a decade ago when i found the free toolkit parts. i did up a weapons pod. has something like 72 torpedo tubes in it. with storage of around 2000 torpedos / tube. reference the dreadnought class. the one reference i can give is the TOS era novel by diane duanne "dreadnought" ship's name was star empire.
I really enjoyed this video very much & these R really cool Starship designs
Really like your videos and the ship shots you make a great to watch. I am going to have to get Space Engine to create some of my own lol
I still have my copy of the Starfleet Technical Manual I bought in 1986. I would love to see these ships in Star Trek Online.
I really warmed up to the look of the Saladin Class, even if not the name of the class itself.
I wish they would have turned one of them upside down, maybe even put the bridge on the bottom of the saucer, like DSC....
I'd say that the difference between the Saladin and Hermes crew complements is the weapons on the Saladin. Figure one tech for each Phaser Bank and 3 for the Photon Torpedoes (2 crew for loaders and 1 for launch). Don't forget that even though weapons control was moved to the Bridge, there most likely would have been back up crew in the weapons mounts.
I've got both manuels Plus Bjo Trimble's Star Trek: Continuum plus a few others from the newer series. Franz Joseph was a genuius!
Great video 🙏🙏
Thank you 🙌
Thank you for an awesome look at the Franz Joseph Designs I to have a copy of the Techmical Manual its wonderful to look at and to enjoy the things that did become canon in it. =)
You're very welcome Grim :)
Like you I enjoy learning about other classes in the fleet and definitely someting missing in TNG. This is just my opinion but I feel that the single nacelle designs would benefit from something above the saucer (like the kelvin) appreciate both hia work and yours, keep up the good work 🖖
🖖😎👍Very cool and very nicely well done and very well informatively explained and executed in every detail way shape and form possibly provided indeed, And love all the Starship designs of Matt Jeffries from the Franz Joseph Starfleet technical Manuel on which I own 3 of them myself as well as various other technical Manuel's and various Compendiums and so forth and I have model kits of all the Franz Joseph designs as well!,👌. And p.s. There is no U.S.S. DEFIANT NCC-1764 or the name of the ship used anywhere in the Technical Manuel whatsoever, The U.S.S. GALINA NCC-1764 is referenced in stead!🤔?.
My brother's and their friends played a role playing game called Starfleet Battles by TSR. The Federation ships featured in this video were used in the game.
Not TSR but TFG (Task Force Games) who had the game rights from Franz Josef to use material from the books they published. Not from Paramount though so they couldn`t actually refer to Star Trek directly in anything they did.
Ptolemy front view looks surprisingly like Intrepid at long distance
Edit: And can't you just imagine a Star Trek version of Booster Terrik tooling around in a clapped out Ptolemy with a Starliner container in the late 24th/early 25th
Still have the book purchased as a kid back in 1977.
I devoured the same book when I was younger. I was one of the first books I bought my self (after the Foundation series). However, you missed a big design from that book...Fleet Headquarters! The station seemed to make sense in so many ways, from the HQ independent of any particular planet to the spin of the station giving gravity to the inside. And the inside had so much detail: parade grounds, Starfleet Academy, productive crop farming, and so on.
If possible, it would be great if you could do a video on that one station alone. With more myth than truth the possibilities are endless!
Thank you! I was thinking this, too. Especially when the space station was shown at the end (what better place for it). Seeing all of these designs in 3-D is very cool! 😊
Some of the Federation starship designs, in the table top wargame "Star Fleet Battles" used Franz Joseph's designs under licence, along with ADB's own designs that nicely filled in the gaps that Franz Joseph missed.
Metal models of the Franz Joseph ships, for this game, have been available since the 1980's.
The PC version of Star Fleet Battles is Star Fleet Command (1999). This game didn't have permission to use Franz Joseph designs, so used their own TMP based designs instead. Needless to say many 3D modeller & modders (including myself) soon made the correct models available for download & adding into the still popular SFC game.
My favorite ship from Starfleet Battles was the Federation heavy carrier. Loved that ship.
Another ex-kid here who had read the manual (didn't own it until I was an adult), but did have the blueprints.
One thing that I've always wondered was whether the neck detached from the Ptolemy class and, if so, could you mate the Ptolemy saucer to a Constitution secondary hull?
BTW, the first couple of episodes of the Star Trek New Voyages fan series had cameos of some of the Franz Joseph classes, including a Ptolemy class pulling a train of cargo containers.
How about doing a video on UPF Headquarters Space Station? That’s a very cool design, although I love the mushroom shaped Earth Spacedock (and Starbase 74). Starbase 1 (in Star Trek 2009) is another cool design. 😉
I like these videos!
Thank you Jeff :)
@@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics did you ever design your own ships? I used to…
Of course :) And they were all truly horrible :P
@@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics awww, I doubt that! I made the New Jersey class and I swear it was a premonition of the NX Defiant the way I designed it…weird
Probably great minds and all that :P
I remember my original edition with the vinyl cover.
If you're wondering what the five extra officers on the Saladin do, you did note that they have more tactical punch than the Hermes class. They undoubtedly man the photon torpedoes and extra phaser banks.
LOL I dont think it exactly works out that way... As there would need to be far more then 5 extra officers, and when you subtract the unneeded Hermes Class officer from Science Departments etc, it just causes a HUGE mess :P
I love how fans argue the number of nacelles even though 1 and 3 nacelle designs show up in cannon
I know right? It's really the Roddenberry Fanatics that do that though :P As he was the one, AFTER taking Joseph's money and using his material in TMP decided to say there was this magical imaginary Nacelle rules... Just an example of Roddenberry not willing to share credit for Star Trek :P
@@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics it sounds more like he had no idea what he was doing with the show and just wanted to make money....oh wait...that is what Roddenberry wanted ;p
LMAO! :)
How about a video on the original Star Trek Maps. I wore mine's out back then! LOL
In fact it's something Im looking in to doing :)
@@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics Excellent!
There was a book sale at my middle school back in the 70's where I got this book. Like everyone else, I devoured the thing and the blueprints when they became available. 😁 I confess it has been decades since I last cracked it open, but I do still have it (somewhere).
I could have sworn the smaller class starships had a lower top speed from the Connie. It doesn't make sense to me how a single nacelle ship can go as fast as a dual-nacelle ship (if they could, why bother with the second nacelle).
I was all over the Federation class ship as it had so much. However, I thought the passenger tug was really cool and I liked the floor plans of it (complete with a park). Interesting enough, the Federation design has since fallen out of favor with me. It feels a little too "pieced together" for my liking.
I believe these beta-universe ship classes have all been used in fan films as the hero ship, with the exception of the cargo carrier. This makes me believe there is a Paramount or fan series just waiting to be made, something similar to BJ and the Bear like TOS was similar to Wagon Train. Our Captain Kirk is now officially the oldest man ever to reach space. I hope you saw Shatner's return to Earth as his struggle to describe what we have never seen or felt was beautiful. Kirk Forever!!!
I also could have sworn that there was a Dreadnought in one of the screens in TMP... Looks like I'll have to break out my old CAV LDs and my other copies Last one I saw was the the TMP Director's cut Blu ray. I enjoy the old books that was all we have during the dark days. According the Doug Drexler many o f he books were part of the Bible for the shows up until Ent were the removed the Chronicles of Space Flight due to corporate pressure.
Well if you ever find it, let me know! My brain would thank you kindly :)
If you ever do a watch along, please let me know. And please do it on a Saturday so I won't have to work. I really do appreciate your videos
I dont like doing walk along because I never like rewatching my own work, odd I know, but that's how I feel :P
@@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics no I meant more like if you were going to do a watch Along on a Star Trek movie or episode or something. Something where we would all have to have our own copy or access to a streaming service and just, start at the same time.
@@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics and I get not wanting to do a watchalong of your own videos, I make music I'm happy to have people listen but I don't want to listen with them.
Ahhh! Well something is in the works for that :P Just never seems to be enough time in the day you know? ;)
@@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics I understand completely. For example I am going to bed now so I can wake up at 2:30 Central Time and pick kids up from school. Enjoy your day and thank you again for the new video
Decades ago, I had the Star Fleet Tech Manual, and poured over it. It was lost during a move, and I missed it. Finally got another copy via Amazon last year. It's still an interesting book.
The Dreadnought Class IS Cannon at this point at least it was seen in Star Trek :Into Darkness
I, too, was fascinated with this book. It made the Star Trek Universe more conceptually real and obtainable. Star Wars is pure comic book fantasy and ridiculousness in comparison, which is why JJ ABRAMS needs to keep his hands off Star Trek. He's dismissing the distinct difference between the two. ST Beyond was such a failure because it was a cheap immigration of SW. It was awful and hurt this dedicated ST, Baby Boomer fan, from its 60's premier night, and filled me with disgust.
Thanks for the remarkable visuals, again, and your pain and diligence to bring us this entry. Kudos! 👍
Star Trek III: The Search for Spock bridge monitor should show the federation class
I was just wondering if the two "Dreadnaught" books written by Diane Carey decades ago can clarify any matters regarding this. Thanks.
My issue with the dreadnaught has always been the placement of the third nacelle. It should attach to the secondary hull, not the primary hull.
In the constitution class when the saucer separates from the secondary hull it is no longer warp capable but with the dreadnaught class both sections would still be warp capable.