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- Top Đir [Top Djir] crew visits and filmed off road events and private off road rides in the wider region of the Balkans, Serbia, Montenegro, Macedonia, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Slovakia, since 2009 and upload to TH-cam since 2010
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All they are demonstrating here is how different tires affect everything...
Unless you have a Jeep - then it doesn't really matter...;)
Jeep Wrangler Rubicon with solid front and rear axles, front and rear diff locks, electronic sway bar disconnect trumps an open IFS. It’s just a fact.
Sure Alex, but the Jeep in the video was just a regular Sahara (with all terrain tyres).
Philip Jooste which proves even further that Toyota is no match for Jeep! I do hope Ford gives Jeep a run for its money with the new Bronco, but I have my doubts.
Agreed - just wondering when (if) Land Rover will pull finger with Defender and become relevant again!
Hilux master race.
Can you not lock the center diff on those? It seemed like the rears were spinning and the fronts did nothing.
It appears one driver isn’t very experienced. But that’s ok. He’s working on it.
MrAbsentdriver to.
Definitely not. That was an issue with tires/traction. Not drive error.
I like those classic old style looking Hilux. And I use to think the snorkel looked ridiculous, but I'm having second thoughts on that.
I didn't see the WK climbing the hill? Did it climbed it?
All those cars are very good, power is nothing without traction so with the right tires they can make their jobs.
In the US that's not a land cruiser but a gx460/4runner. Nice vid. Has a lot to do with tire choice too.
In Europe there are Land Cruiser, Prado models 90, 120 and 150, and Land Cruiser 200/V8
www.toyota-europe.com/new-cars/land-cruiser/
... and Toyota 4runner too
www.european-motorcars.com/toyota-4runner.htm
All suvs made on top of the holl are lighter than that of prado. Tyres of prado is just right. I noticed The owner of prado did modification on front and rear bumper. He put heavy bumpers. A bit stupid. Also center of the gravity of pick ups are much more leaning toward frontnside, while prado regressed toward the center because of heavy cabin + additional weight = more pull toward 270°, thus resultant is leaning nearer to
This should be titled "open vs. locked diffs". The Prado is clearly relying on traction control, the Hilux is heavily modded and probably has at least a rear locker if not front and rear, and is helped by itls longer wheel base in this instance. The jeep is open here as well (the right side is spinning/biting more than the left) but the driver had more speed and the jeep is lighter.
Jeep Wrangler Sahara - no lockers
Toyota Hilux 2.5 diesel, manual transmission, no lockers
Land Cruiser Prado - no lockers
Prado is heavy weight :) need more speed...
Tires making a huge difference
there is truth in that fact as well
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Is the Toyota prado was 2wd?
I notice theres not much talk about purchase cost here, I would think a Toyota or land cruiser are substantially more expensive than a jeep, I've got a 2010 2dr, 6 speed jeep and it goes damn near anywhere ( and I have a winch for when I bite off more than I can chew) but I don't mind scratches and dings because that's what it is meant for. That being said, I would never buy new one if you intend to wheel it on the weekends, who wants to wheel a nice new ride and beat the hell out of it? Not to mention warranty issues due to mods. 2 dr jeep is king offroad with that short wheelbase
There's no LandCruiser in this video.
That is a Prado..
75mattyd and the Prado is what, which brend, which model? That is Toyota Land Cruiser Prado.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_Land_Cruiser_Prado
Bro, it's a Prado. It's related to a LandCruiser through name only.
better tell toyota that! they should know ;)
They sold them as LandCruiser Prado here for the first generation. They got unmercifully shitcanned then changed it to just "Prado".
The dearest "Prados" in Australia, new are around $94k. Mine, new 23 years ago was $87k.
Totally different vehicles. An 80 series LandCruiser will chew up and spit out any shit heap Jeep.
Lol, it's a Land Cruiser Prado, not a Landcruiser. The Prado is a relative of the Landcruiser which was made for comfort and does not prioritize 4wd/offroad capabilities. It is still a capable vehicle, though a true Landcruiser (60, 70, 80 series) is made specifically for harsh offraod conditions and would tackle everything in the video with ease.
Cooper Ware they are called LandCruiser prado's buddy look it up
Adam Kelley that's literally what I said, did you read my comment? It's a Landcruiser Prado, not a Landcruiser, they're two different things.
Copper ware is right. Toyota specifically introduced the prado as a little brother to the real landcruiser at the time theycame out. The prado has lighter chassis, drivetrain and smaller engine with reduced payload and durability. But far less cost of production to make them more affordable. Dont get me wrong they are a great vehicle, but they are not in the same class as a true landcruiser
These are facts
Cooper Ware treba da ga ubaci u sporu
tires had an effect but i think this was a war of lockers vs limited slip.
Blocking the wheels on descending the hill might end very badly for Prado.
C'est vraiment des véhicules de guerre.
wow!
jeep is the car
На хайлюксе водитель опытный стравил колеса, а на прадике школота нельзя блокировать колеса при спуске
jeep👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
So many snorkels, so little water.
They help with mud and dust too. A lot of snorkels aren't even designed for water crossing
Not to mention, it only takes one deep stream crossing to need a snorkel. It's not as if you should take your snorkel off every time you get to a shallow stream...
I blew an engine driving through too deep of water, and I've never made fun of trucks with snorkels since.
broncokonco I've done just fine with just a cowl on a cold air intake lol I've been in almost four feet of water with no problem. Even the stock intake on a jeep is fine unless you have the hood underwater completely lol
Obviously every vehicle is different. Not everyone drives Jeeps. I have a TJ now, and I'm very happy with how the stock airbox performs going through water. However, my 1st gen 4runner was designed in the most boneheaded way with the opening of the air intake aimed strait out the front of the grill. I was in about 3 ft of water, maybe a bit more, and I hydrolocked the engine and bent a rod.
broncokonco That is absolutely stupid engineering lol
But you are very right about different vehicles. And they do honestly help with dust too. Sorry about your four runner man. I think you'll like the TJ more though but I'm biased lol
Best affordability and for a reasonable price Wrangler. If you want high end the Land Rover, but is the price really worth it? Jeep has a huge after market! It's the Common man's SUV.
Title this as the tire brands.
Jeep 👍👍👍
You need to add a G wagon to your group.
super SUV with a capital letter and like for the legendary car
there is truth in that :)
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I have 98 100 series lc.
I've climbed steeper sand dunes.
The land cruiser needs better tires
Thivakar saravanamuthu it's not a LandCruiser
75mattyd Its a land cruiser prado
+75mattyd
Yes, it's Land Cruiser LC120
Thivakar saravanamuthu : too wide for rocks not for mud
@@MattBlack6 in our country is called Land Cruiser only
Why u going off trail???
What you mean by "off trail"?
The Landcruiser driver could have made his own tracks driving up the hill rather than driving in the Hiluxs tracks.
It also depends on the driver
Uno que sabe conducir subiria eso sin ningun problema.
Yeah really what's with all the snorkels? You guys cannot possibly be hydrolocking that many engines. Who makes the vehicle really is not as important as tire size gear ratios differential lockers Etc.
dannypstl423 maybe they go into deep water on other occasions?
dannypstl423 a lot of cars breathe better through a snorkel. I put a snorkel on my Navara and when I removed the old intake pipes they were all moulded into a stupid twisty pre-filter. The snorkel is just much more direct. Plus they help with things like dust as the air above your roof is usually way cleaner than in your wheel arch. Besides, you only need 1 deep water crossing for it to be worth it ay?
LoneW0lf11 I don't know where you live or that vehicle that you're describing. But I do know a fair amount about hydrolocking engine stand Crossing through water it on my list of things that I would do before a high water crossing is snorkel is pretty far down the list I can go through waist-deep water in my Jeep Wrangler no problem without a snorkel. I think the biggest concern in a gasoline engine is the ignition system getting wet most are boxes are high up and even then you'll typically dump all your breather tubes underwater before you hydrolock your engine. Where I live we pretty much consider those people posers with pavement Queens
dannypstl423 if you look at some of the other videos in this channel, people go into water which is part of a course . Perhaps these people go more than waist deep at times...
Who makes the vehicle is not important? Well, I guess Toyota should just close up shop since near-bullet proof design and super reliability is no longer important. Just buy a Yugo, throw on some lockers, gears and go run The Rubicon Trail...
Good job Toyota it handled really well
Car best
The Prado ain't a true land cruiser buddy.. Get an 80,100 or 200 then u'll know what it's capable of
WOW
The Land Cruiser no have a lock differential!!???
No
Dont wear leather shoes in muddy conditions! As they say.
All mighty Hilux
Oh boy...
Jeep,best 4wl drive platform in the world...and always has been.
Wes Stewart I prefer the 70 series Land Cruiser or a G class Mercedes-Benz Diesel... Diesel wranglers are just not good, gasoline one is thirsty and cargo area is small in comparison don't you think?
You're right. Most of experts all around the world say the same: Jeep builds the best off-roaders in the world. Cheers from Costa Rica.
I've heared the experts from Australia and Africa, many of them agree the Wrangler is the best off-roader from stock. However they also agree it's not the best option for overlanding, where the 70 series land cruiser is the king due to its solid construction, reliability, usable space, availability of spare parts and many other attributes where the Jeep falls behind.
Long story short, for weekend off-road enthusiasts the Jeep will do perfectly even stock. For long, technical and vehicle punishing 4x4 expeditions the LC for sure. Greetings from Costa Rica too :D
guy proulx
Just how many times have you seen cars driving across the Serengeti or the Sahara desert?
Once?.....and don't tell me, they were Toyotas.
Oh.....by the way, does anyone remember WW2 and the SAS?
Yep.....they had Jeeps.
guy proulx toyota are reliable
Al Jeep le suena hasta pintura
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Its the old land cruiser prado but the jeep is the new version so it isn't compare between prado and jepp
*jeep
So hilux wins :)
What are you talking about? Didn't you see a Jeep Wrangler doing the same thing?
Walter Meoño cant compare a crysler to a Toyota bud.
Sorry, but when experts compare a Jeep with any other vehicle, most of times the winner is the Jeep. And when you go off-roading, this happens often: th-cam.com/video/SfSFKxPgxIs/w-d-xo.html (go to minute 7:40 and watch). Or th-cam.com/video/bNlLnFjP_7Q/w-d-xo.html . Don't be a victim due to propaganda from Toyota. Cheers from Costa Rica.
Walter Meoño the hilux didn't even spin a tire
Matias Naulin yes for me the Hilux win ! It's the more clean for the grass !
I find it funny that Europeans think Prados are real Land Cruisers, If its not a V8 turbo diesel its not a land cruiser
So Jeep Wrangler or Toyota hilux or prado?
No vehicle has diff locks, the Wrangler is Sahara.
However, only the Prado did not climb.
Nyet
Ni se xq no ponen prado.. land cruiser es solo nombre comercial para colarse a la fama de los verdaderos land cruiser ya sea serie 70 o 200
Ahh it's only a baby cruiser. Try it with a proper LC cruiser like a 100 or a 79 or something. Prados are soccer mum cars
A 100? Don't trust IFS, not even Toyota's...
Because the Prado is much heavier
Dite ai proprietari del gran Cherokee e della Land Cruise che lo snocher è montato alla rovescia la parte superiore va girata fronte marcia se volete che il motore respiri è una presa d"aria quello è il suo scopo hahaha .
Toyota Prado looks like he forgot to lock his diff lock in centre diff lock front wheels we're not even trying to turn
Dimenticavo anche per il Wrangler proprio non ne avete presa una hahaha.
jeep wrangler lo maximo
Where's the Landcruiser?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_Land_Cruiser_Prado
www.toyota-global.com/showroom/vehicle_gallery/result/land_cruiser_prado/
And here come the Toyota fanboys with their "it's not a real Land Cruiser" ya'll talk big until it can't climb a hill
:) :) :)
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Happy 420 from the guy who knows how to take a hit, lol
Because wrangler is life!!!
This is why 4 wheeling has gotten a bad rap in America, instead of just staying on the trail let’s make a new path just cause I can six years and several rainstorms later there will be a river there.
Do you not exaggerating a bit?
Soon traces will not be seen, but when an idiot throws a plastic bag, that's a real problem.
Yeah you are right you are not hurting the dirt lol I was being cute and funny cause of all the liberal b s here in Cali they have taken away land that belongs to the ppl citing injuries to the land if I get caught breaking trail there’s a huge fine
Wrangler and hilux are the leaders here they are the best machines........
Even 2 wheel axel will do the same. This Video is purely nonsense
Smilercooker Smiler my fwd civic can do it easily
Jeep King!
Jeep 4x4 - Land cruiser Prado 4WD completely different
where is the land cruiser i only jeep hiluxs and hilux wagons
Cammo threesixandfive Think they call it Land cruiser in Europe..wich at some places it’s called Landcruiser Prado 120 series!
It's 4 cylinder which means it's a Hilux
Cammo threesixandfive In some countries only!
they're called a prado in australia too but nobody classes them as a land cruiser
Cammo threesixandfive Correct we call them Prado in Australia(120,150 etc) or 80,100,105,200 Landcruisers,point being that I know for a fact that they class them as Landcruiser’s at some places.
Cheers all good
Jeep, will always be the best 4x4 vehicle .
Tread lightly
It’s just dirt and grass. It’ll grow back 🙄
Not aple to aple , fj cruiser perfect match
Jeep brother
A prado is not a real land cruiser
Jeep Wrangler is the best
Hilux diesel more mpg :)
Jeep la bestia
Jeep the legend
it's going nicely, and it's the Sahara that doesn't have a differential lock :)
This not Landcruiser
A Prado Is the land cruisers gay brother don't call it a cruiser
Land cruiser to heavy, my 02 TRD wouldn't even hesitate,
Too heavy for what? It (200 series) has better hp/torque per pound than ANY Tacoma, Hilux or 4 Runner...
That’s a god damn prado, not Land Cruiser
This is what, Nissan, Jeep, Suzuki, Mitsubishi? No, this is Land Cruiser Prado, and the Prado is what, which brand, which model? And I agree that this is not the best Toyota model for Off Road ability but it is Toyota and it is Land Cruiser :)
www.toyota.ae/new-cars/land-cruiser-prado/
Land Cruiser's too heavy...
Hilux is light in the rear, thats whu it climbs better than the other junk.
プラドだけ登れないとかww
Let's go wrangler
toyota good compny
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jeep is best
Jeep makes most modern SUV's look hopeless. Jeep are the only true 4x4 brand left.
No Land Cruises here..
This is what, Nissan Jeep, Suzuki, Mitsubishi,... No, this is Land Cruiser www.toyota.ae/new-cars/land-cruiser-prado/
And I agree that this is not the best Toyota model for Off Road ability but it is Toyota and it is Land Cruiser :)
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_Land_Cruiser_Prado
Idiots tore off all the grass on the hillside. Next year there will be a ravine.
Do you not exaggerating a bit?
Soon traces will not be seen, but when an idiot throws a plastic bag, that's a real problem.
Silly Granola, a ravine would add to the character of the landscape.
Yuriy The loader fuck up
Absolutely no good information here at all .... a waste of time
Hilux has better tyres
Toyota no problem
Toyota best
JEEP Food lol
Nobody ever cares to mention that Jeep manufacturing standards are atrocious compared to Toyota - In harsh outback Australia, you'll see 75 and 78 series Landcruisers mostly, that's because they're more reliable than any other vehicle on earth.
Jeeps look great, they perform well when they work, but that doesn't cut it up North.
Robin Banks from a Canadian who owns a jk, bullshit
Kristopher Klassen Not so, you can check under a freedom of information act and see how many defective vehicle's are produced by any company - Jeep are right up there, producing one defective heap of shit after another!
guy proulx
Another butt hurt Toyota driver.......OoIIIIIIIoO.......enough said.
crazyt1ger08 Jeep owner's aren't likely to speak pooly about their vehicle's but I have owned one and can say it was an absolute heap of shit - My 'new' 97 TJ Wrangler blew cold water all over my feet when the Air conditioning was on, experienced electrical issue's and began stalling when pushed around corners or when decending down steep offroad slopes.
Jeep service in North Melbourne (At the time) couldn't see a problem and gave the car back just as defective as it was when I dropped it in - I later returned the car again only to be told (Once again) that my car was fine - I subsequently told the dickheads at Jeep that I'd be contacting The Department of Consumer Affairs regarding Jeeps failure to fix my heap of shit.
Approx two weeks later Jeep returned my TJ to me with $1400 AUD of new parts - it seemed that they just swapped out a ton of parts given that they couldn't diagnosis a fault.
I'm happy to state that I rolled the TJ in the Victorian High Country approx six months later - it was written off and I purchased a 93 80 Series Landcruiser with the money.
I did 317k in my Cruiser over 12 years traveling Australia, in that time I replaced a clutch and three starter motor's.
There are virtually no pre 2000 TJ's left on Aussie roads - they all ended up on the scrap heap years ago.
I'm not butt hurt, I'm wise.
Robin Banks
Well I've owned two and I've had this Grand WH/WK for 8 years now without any issues.
I suggest trying to maintain your vehicles, just because a hose burst in yours doesn't justify saying all Jeeps suck.
Also if you buy a second hand one, in fact any 4x4, don't be surprised if a previous owner tried too many river crossings without preparing the car, that fucks 4x4s no matter what badge it has on the hood.
Jeep