Genesis Live 1978 Cinema Show Part 2 /Afterglow Rework
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ส.ค. 2024
- Hello! o/ Back in 2011, i created this video, which is combination of various live footage from 1978 (Mostly from Montreal and Osaka) and the soundtrack is taken from a pre-fm source of a radio broadcast from a show in Houston.
Looking back 5 years later, i am not satisfied with this video anymore as i used to be in 2011. However, many people still enjoy it, so keep it on this channel.
There are still lots of plans in my mind, one of them is to complete my project "Genesis Live in Concert 1978", which can be found here:
• Genesis Live in Concer...
Haven't worked on this stuff since more than two years. :O
I hope in 30 or 40 years someone releases all the footage of these shows & tells all our grandchildren how good genesis were because as it stands this is all we've got
I know, wouldn't we all kill for a Blueray quality video version of Seconds Out, maybe with a Steven Wilson 5.1 remix. I don't care if Varilights weren't invented yet... the sheer energy of those performances still blows me away. I would metaphorically give my left nut for that live concert experience.
This is the real Genesis-stuff. Epic, dramatic, bombastic. Loving this music for decades.
There are no words to describe Genesis during the late 70's tours.............
It was simply.............STUNNING!
I agree, I saw them in 78...Atlanta, Georgia....the Omni.....and then there were three.....tour.....one of the greatest shows I ever seen, seen quite a bit.....amazing...I love that album personally....alot
Absolutely agree my friend awesome music for all the ages
78 at the LA Forum and I watch this and I’m right back there, what a lucky 17year old kid I was, priceless!
I often wonder if artists know how much meaningful happiness and long lived memories they provide. Does Phil or Steve or Peter go to sleep at night satisfied that their work continues to thrill some of us even now? They should. They did a good thing. It sounds trite and silly to some but music and art is the gift that keeps giving, more so than any “thing” else could. There is no physical possession that can last through the ages like the music we grew up with. I saw this show at Berkeley Greek Theater-one of the best nights of my life.
yes, artists know. We were made to think again and again, Dan. But - maybe - this can change. As we learned not to need religion, we're about to learn, that this single one person to love, "just to hear your call", does not exist beside the own brain. I would like to talk to you and me and all of those great musicians about that. Roger Waters asked for the live we really want, and imagined a woman at the stove... "I would be afraid to find somenone home..." I want to travel to where a guest is welcome only. Sorry, if I did not match memories - I can't anymore. Want to get ready for different quests.... but, posts as yours will be always a very good start, so I decided to post here, now, and with my honest devine, not beeing able to give a better start to somenone like me. Finally: I'm a musician too, who switches between playing and listening, getting more and more respect to me and anyone who plays live on stage or in the streets... yes, artists know! look: th-cam.com/video/9ThB1n6ay1Y/w-d-xo.html
I don't think Phil knows
I'm 38, I wish I could have seen Genesis in the 70's or early 80's. Best modern music ever. I grew up with them too but being a 90's teenager, thanks to my uncle. I could say Genesis is the music of my life.
How can you forget to mention Tony Banks. The king of chord progressions. Many people don't realize how much of the music was actually written by him. Afterglow being one. Aside from the later writings of Phil Collins, Tony Banks was the heart of Genesis. He's one of the greatest all time keyboard players.
YES !!!
i dont care HOW MANY TIMES i hear afterglow....it always sends chils down my spine!!!....damn im cold now...ABSOLUTE SUPURB!!!
Makes the hair stands up on my arms every time I hear this
I hear you! I saw Genesis a few times in the 70's. One of them was the Seconds Out tour - in Oakland Coliseum. Tickets cheap. Absolutely fantastic show. All I did was walk around on the floor buying loose joints and hit off them, then pass around etc... I did this the entire concert. Walk though the crowd passing around joints. LOL I don't think I even looked at the stage once. The sound was great and I kept running into people I knew. Those were great times I must say. Afterglow stopped me dead in my tracks. I remember it to this day. Thank you Genesis band for all that.
Afterglow is a special song, it calls to the soul , simply one of Genesis' finest,a masterpiece, thanks to all the members of the greatest band and to Anthony George Banks for composing it.👍😎
I saw this show in Chicago 42 years ago. I can’t even remember the venue. But...Dan, I can readily agree with your sentiment. I did and still do worship genesis and the musicians There in. I’ve seen them and peter g many times. Mostly yearly back in the 70s & 80s This to us is spiritual shit. 🙏🏼✌🏼sublime!
I still kick myself for blowing off the 1977 tour, Bloomington IL stop. Talked myself out of it. I had no idea that a few years later, Seconds Out would become my #1 "desert island" album, for decades.
I've listened to Progressive Rock all my life. For me The Cinema Show is still the ultimate piece. Utterly brilliant live band in the late 70's.
Me too
Cinema Show on Seconds Out has always been my "go to" Genesis song - best stuff they ever did.
I agree. It sounds like coming from Heaven.
Why can't I remember when my wife asks me to pick up a loaf of bread... but I can air-drum every second of that song?
One of the best ever recorded!
Oh yes!
I agree!! The other live version I absolutely adore is the In The Cage medley on Three Sides Live. Wow!! Just wow.
The secret to Genesis is the epic sweep of the compositions, there is so much drama and buildups in the music, they are unlike anyone else in that regard. Mostly due to Banks, but not solely. Often, the actually musical materials are really very simple, very simple lines, but it's so brilliantly constructed. And great drumming, great vocals and fun complicated time signatures always helps with the fun
Maybe the most inspiring keyboard solo of all time. The audio mix is amazing.
the cinema show continues to be one of the greatest tunes in rock and roll and one of those songs you could point to as an example of the finest of progressive rock! i first heard it on the radio in 1972-1973 and i've enjoyed listening to it ever since!
the 78 tour was one of the best ever i just turned 16 and it was the first concert i was able to drive to la forum
Woah, woah, woah! I frickin love this version of the cinema show. The pace is hot but the playing is perfect. Phil's drumming is insane, Tony is as awesome as ever. Love how the guitar comes to a bit more to the fore than usual. Cracking stuff. Thanks for posting.
I get mad when people don't take Phil Collins seriously as a drummer...I show them this and it usually changes their mind pretty quickly. ;-)
Anybody worth his salt knows Collins was badass with the sticks
The man is my drumming hero. I wish I could be half the drummer he was before his health issues
*_"I get mad when people don't take Phil Collins seriously as a drummer"_*
That's crazy. He was always a better drummer than he was a singer!
{:-:-:}
Man, those mellotrons at the end of afterglow must be one of the most powerfull thing I've heard from a band..
The mellotron is an amazing instrument and is a necessity for most progressive rock bands. The voices in particular Blow Me Away
The mirrors!! Saw it in Dayton first then Cincinnati. I was in heaven
Banks at top of his game sublime
It doesn't get any better than this....
I want Aferglow played at my funeral. Serious. This song takes me away every SINGLE time.
Afterglow and New Horizons of the Moody Blues will be played at my funeral.
Undertow at mine.
I love the way the bass comes through very subtly at the end.Great memories - thanks
Some of our favorite musicians ever!
The energy is so huge ... "Cinema Show" is a monster-song with a mindblowing instrumental-part. Damned tricky soloing by Tony Banks live on stage. Masters doing their thing! The live-version of "Afterglow" is even more powerful than the studio-version because of two extraordinary drummers - a real hymn.
funklover24 NO COMPARISON at all .. these live versions kill the studio versions
@@anthonymatis2977 Well, bro, Genesis always was a phantastic live-band. ;)
I CANNOT believe I FINALLY got to see Afterglow performed back when it came out…..THANK YOU for this GIFT!!!!!
Simply awesome as all Genesis concerts in this era.
Love this moment (3:45) when Mike shifts from 12-string to bass!
the simple fact that people get so emotional and argue so much..is to my mind a monument to the greatness of the music--I was priveldged--yea that is the word priveldged to see them no less than 9x live from 1978 to 1993..the absolute best..
I think of 1978 as Genesis with the best drumming performances. Outstanding!
For me ..The BEST TOUR EVER....(sorry for hackett cock lovers)
Energy!
+Henri Hessmann Collins is masterful as drummer and as vocalist here. Shivers in the spine when Afterglow is about to start.
+Henri Hessmann No big Genesis epics except TCS but still the best energy!
I will go for a straight out sacrilege: although Bill Bruford is my favorite drummer, especially during his Bruford and UK years, I prefer 100x having Phil Collins on the drums over Bruford, when playing Genesis songs... Collins is unsurpassed! Of course, Phil is the original and the true member of Genesis, but the real reason is the Collins is way better when the matter is Genesis songs!
Brings a tear to my eyes.
Tony Banks's keyboard solo!!!! Wow wow wow!!!
Simply stunning.
Phenomenal. What a great bunch of musicians...
arguably the greatest prog song of them all! - the cinema show - as if i had to say it!
Fantastic Tony, nodding to my boy Phil's unmatched drum sound, terrific Mike, and what we get here equals to a beyond epic instrumental performance. Thanks for posting this.
A truly awe-inspiring (live) band and performance...I'm astonished every time I hear them play live.
Idols incredible interplay ...sublime and stellar!
I couldn't agree more with 🙌 about GENESIS!!!!!. SEEN THEM SEVERAL TIMES. TRULY, ONE OF THE MANY IF THE BEST I'VE EVER SEEN IR HEARD!!!. EAR CANDY, ROCK ON YOU GUYS FOREVER!!!.
In the beginning... Genesis. Listen closely
Banks keyboard playing is amazing.
Ah, '78... the mirrors, the Mellotron, Mike's Shergold silhouetted against the pink smoke...awesome!
When music was still beautifully played..
There's still a lot of great music being made, but these guys definitely killed, just overwhelming talent and energy 1976-78.
The best full Cinema Show version without understimate the original one. My second favorite version is the 1981-84 medley version.
It's about damn time this tour gets a proper video release
To all the haters of the post Gabriel era... watch this video ! Showing the magic of gifted musicians and singer... Phil Collins at his absolute best !!
Ok he was overexposed during the 80’s with commercial music, videos and movies.
But he always been one of the greatest drummers in rock and a great performer !
I cannot choose what gave me the biggest goosebump: the keyboard solo ? The 12-string guitar riff of cinema show ? The bass pedals ? The short but very intense drum duo ? The mellotron/choir of Afterglow ? The drum fill at the end of afterglow that sounds like a machine gun ? Of phil Collins singing « I miss you more » at the very end ???
Yes they were great and mystical during the Gabriel years... but from 77 to 92, they were part of the best live performers in rock !!!
Thank you Genesis !!!
His will never get old an elite tour year I think their best the mirror tour brings tears to see Phil in his and genesis glory
That two- drummers- sections in the songs really blew me away!
Just..amazing. Prog at its very best ;)
I was in the audience at the Montreal show. Thank you for this.
Saw this "Mirrors" tour at Knebworth in June 1978. Utterly incredible experience. This is Genesis at their height of their musical and athletic power. In 2007 I noticed how many songs were slower and taken down a tone or two for Phil to reach the higher notes.
One of my wishes for the end of my life would be to take with me this beauty of sound of these talented musicians ...
Right. This was well rehearsed for this tour. And Genesis using the mirrors was awesome!
Amazing this one! Always loved Cinema Show ... Thanks a million for the upload!
I find it a shame that the majority of people were listening to bands like the Stones, The who, Floyd, Eagles etc, when a band like Genesis was around. A lot of people just didn't know what they were missing, Genesis was in a league of their own.
+ Maeu59 I agree. Not cool but once you get them you can't let go
I wasn't! I was listening to Gentle Giant, Yes, Jethro Tull ... and Genesis!
I think a lot of people listening to Floyd were listening to Genesis too (and vice versa). Genesis had a good following, don't worry about that! Even 'pre-Phil Collins band' era they drew a massive crowd headlining Knebworth festival in '78. I'd say the 'league' also includes Yes, Floyd and Rush.
We were listening to all of them.
Phil Collins singing "Afterglow" is as good as it gets.
Listening to this - I cried...
Now this is great stuff! I can watch this video 3 times, I have been lucky enough to See old Genesis a few times, if they went commercial in the mid eighties SO What. Old Genesis is Epic.
My 2nd rock concert was Genesis 12th row seats, Binghamton NY. 1978. Their 1st US stop that year. Still the concert I compare all others to.
darn it, what a recording, one of the best energy wise.
I always preferred the post '76 version of Cinema Show as I find it carrying a lot more energy, compared to what was recorded in the studio.
And the genius of Afterglow is like an icing on that cake!
Over 40 years ago and that stage is still awesome...just how good are them mirrors
my absolute favorite genesis jam. tony banks is master. brilliant.
I love this. Brings back so many memories!!!
this is extreme! What a blast! What great drumwork and keyboard soloing!!!!!
I was born too late. Best progressive rock band EVER. I didn't get into them until the 1980's when I was in high school. Before that, I was into disco. Shame on me!!
Some things need time ... 😉
There's plenty of great disco out there, regardless of the "rap" it gets.
EPIC! A sound the likes of which will never be heard again!
The first time I (knowingly) heard Genesis was when a friend introduced me to their music, back in about 1983. He played me an excerpt from the solo part of Cinema Show, and I loved it on first listen. The very next day I went out and bought the album, Selling England by the Pound, just to hear that again. It took a few listens to come around to the rest of the album, but come around I did. However, that solo still sends shivers up my spine, and I never grow tired of listening to it. I always liked when the Mellotron "Choir" came in, but in this version, it really hits you.
While watching a Genesis video a few years ago ("Live from Wembley Stadium" i.e. the Invisible Touch tour), my son asked me which was my favourite band. I answered, without the slightest hesitation, "This one!"
This one it is!
Absolutely amazing!!! Wish there were bands still like this today
Steve Hackett is the most underrated musician in history! His contribution to Genesis was immense and his solo career over 35 years has proved he is the most accomplished guitarist in so many styles. His iconic solo on Firth of Fifth is one of rocks greatest moments. He alone has flown the flag for early Genesis pre Then there was three era with Genesis Revisited 1and 2. Don't forget Peter Gabriel in the classic line-up as well. Their respective departures weakened the progressive left-field element of the Genesis output.
Daryl Steumer is a great technician and my only beef with him is that he over elaborates on the stunning simplicity of Hackett's guitar solos. Firth of Fifth a case in point. Chester Thompson is just awesome!
I don't like most of Daryl's renditions over Steve's stuff, but listen to 1981-1984 Firth of Fifth versions. Daryl makes improvisations with a very 1978-1980 Hackett-ish guitar sound. The improvisation makes some noise in the people which wanted to listen to the original, but it's better improvise than try to imitate the solo or... "rock it" like the 1992-2007 versions. The guitar sounds it's more like the chorused Steve guitars in between 1977-1979 fashion
Brian Edward fersure
Brian, Brian, Brian..... Daryl is Daryl. He has his own way of playing. Surely they didn't hire him to mimic Steve note for note?
Firth of fith solo: best solo of rock history. But not too much people can understand.
@@FukiMakai I think he plays a good homage even on the "rock it" solo versions. In fact as a hard rock solo (1992-2007) it sounds pretty amazing and doesn't lose its soul and delicateness despite the hard rock style. The sustain climax is still so moving on the "rock it" versions like The way we walk CD. Ok he's not Steve, but...
Hey Daryl, You are a legend and part of the Genesis story and Family. Just wanted to say thanks for the years of great memories!
By being so brilliant, these guys showed their justifiable disdain for just about every other rock 'act' in history.
nessuno come loro......spettacolari
The Best Time for me from Genesis. Great.
Great!! Always found it the best live part of Genesis.
Peter or Phil? I'm so over it! I love both versions of every song they performed. #SaltOrPepper can't live without either one.
I just saw them in December!! Simply Outstanding….
This gig should have been on an official Genesis music video; if not at the time, then now.
Thanks for posting , I used to love the two drum kits , Knebworth was fantastic that year.
Grandes, grandes.......nunca me cansaré de escuchar esta canción.......es un grupo que sirvió y sirve aún de escuela para tantas nuevas bandas neo progresivas. Gracias por hacer musicaaaaa !!!!!!!
It's about time someone invented a time machine so I can hop in and hop back ....
SECONDS OUT to this day is an absolute masterpiece.
True my brother, so true.
This was my first Genesis concert July 1978 Zurich Hallenstadion.
How lucky you were! At that time I'm not even was a sperm proyect.
Mine too. Philly, March 31, 1978.
@@gregpendleton7893 Ha, me the day after, April Fool's Day 1978, at Rockland County Community College north of NYC. Legendary night.
@@Jhensy2012 Actually, my first concert period; not just my first Genesis concert. :-)
Mine as well, we were 4th row. When the synthetic base hit you would just reverberate. How insane was that show.
This is my definitive favorite Cinema Show version, apart from the medleys (1981-1984; 2007). It's played in its entirety and sounds classic but modern and powerful. The 1973 version it's a great prog classic sounding but too slow and a bit hard to listen to. This version is the perfect bridge between the classic version and the modern versions. The lead keyboards are great, different from the previous versions, the Hammond phased organ it's like heaven and Mellotron (in its last great majestic appareance live in a tour) helps Banks to complete the sublime key ensamble.
Pure eargasm.
Marvin Lewis Brilliant description!
this is near perfection
CosmoThom/Gauravani Kemper
It would have been had Steve stayed.
No band jams like Genesis jams. Amazing.
J'etais présent au forum de montreal 1978 quel spectacle , tente de perpetuer cette musique a mes proche
THIS IS SO AWSOME LOVE IT !!!!
Some music just soars to the heavens
Quite simply the best live act of all time. Nothing, nothing comes remotely close. I saw Zep, The Floyd, Yes etc and Genesis are without doubt the best
Great sound and a superb rendition of The Cinema Show moving into the rework of Afterglow. Love the 747 landing lights at the climax of Cinema Show too. When Genesis played in the seventies they were so powerful and their sound was so 'large' that it sounded like a whole orchestra.
"When Genesis played in the seventies they were so powerful and their sound was so 'large' that it sounded like a whole orchestra." Exactly as I've described them many a time and will always fondly recall.
Yes indeed
Mike's bass pedals were so loud you'd feel it in your scrotal area.
The Magic of the Mellotron... wall of sound. 1977 was Peak Genesis.
@@Jhensy2012 I can only imagine! Guess the women got a somewhat different sensation. 🤣
Thank you for posting this. Mike's bass line during the finale of this piece is my favorite bass line he ever did for this song. And man, they knew how to make that mellotron sound huge. Doubling it perhaps? I heard a lot of good mellotron back in those days, from Genesis to Yes, Crimson, Strawbs, to Tangerine Dream. No one played it better than Banks, and his strings never sounded as good after he stopped playing the mellotron, imo.
Apart from saying wowowowowowowowow!!, which I did earlier, I am lost for words. The audio is simply stunning and the film is just awe-inspiringly amazing. Thank you so much for your brilliant dedication!
Yes it is the mirrors. This video doesn't do them justice either. It was quite a spectacle.
I wish there was more footage from this tour, this was the one where they used the parabolic mirrors, you can see them used a few times in this video, along with the music, PURE Genius.
Just stumbled across this footage. One word: Fuckin Superb. Alright that's two words but who cares. Afterglow is possibly the greatest song in Genesis's catalogue and this version is just ACE. There you go - one word - ACE.
Good, but i wish it was the version on Seconds Out, sorry. Just too much vocal noodling and f'ing around here, it's distracting.
That was the size of a Vari-lite back in 1978. the mirror angling the light. By 1984, it was so compact, that Genesis used hundreds of them on the Mama tour.
This tour was the first Genesis Tour. t was at the Omni Arena, in Atlanta, GA. We were so close to the speaker, the bass almost rattled my bones loose. I went to to see them many times.
Genesis 78 @ The Garden in NYC! 1 show I will dream about for the rest of my life!! miss that band!
Tony Banks using an ARP2600 live and changing patches like a boss. Oh the 70's...
Yesss! I saw the same thing in one of the first shots. Holy s**** what a killer lead synth! The ProSoloist already was awewome in Tony's hands, but the modular 2600 just kills it - just the right amount of detune in the patches, not like the inferior Quadra or any of the lather synths. This is is it!!!
+truefilm what impresses me the most is his ability to use the 2600 live as if it were a preset synthesizer. I mean, the prosoloist was acctualy a preset synth but this? Tony is a true badass!
Yeah, I wonder how Tony managed this. The 2600 is semi-modular with patch chords - as you of course know. No presets or programmable patches. Very likely some modifications made. Even more awesome: this is clearly an early 2600 - those sounded the very best! It was probably too hard on the long run (or unreliable) and Tony went back to the Quadra (single oscillator sounds were out of fashion for good by 1978) for the rest of the 1978 tour.
Not preaching to the choir here, just sharing my admiration:
The keyboard solo part of "Cinema Show" is basically a "walk through" of the ARP ProSoist. Darn, Tony even changes the octave during a run in one place. There's a TH-cam video somewhere (with the virtual ProSoloist) which I think is pretty close.
I think it was the very best choice for Tony to pick up the Pro Soloist. Nothing more frustrating than being unable to use vibrato, filters and expression etc. let alone changing timbres/patches - when your left hand is stuck on the organ to hold the chords. A Minimoog would have been a bad choice for Tony (although I love that synth - who doesn't?).
Holy cow, no kidding...this is one of the great ones for Banks and co.
I love the moment near the beginning of part 2 when Tony switches his left hand from the Hammond to the Mellotron, but Mike Rutherford blows my mind on this video. The combination of the Shergold double neck and the bass pedals is just amazing. There's a brief top-down glimpse of his foot on the bass pedals and that terrific moment when he switches from 12 string to bass in midstream. Plus, his bass playing in Afterglow is just killer.
Là musica della mia vita grazie mille
Wind and Wuthering was the last great Genesis tour. Tony Banks was so freak'in on point. The dual drumming of Collins and Thompson was a glorious experience. Thank you for the wonderful memories.
WRONG....1978..ATTWT TOUR...
Once Steve Hackett left Genesis sucked the big one. ATTWT was an awful album and the tour inconsequential.
@@ProgBartleby you're a POOR BOY....THIS VIDEO IS A ATTWT TOUR....AND WAS FANTASTIC!!!!!...
Genesis AWESOME in every ERA!!!!!
unmatched, simply unmatched
Genesis una leyenda , muy buen grupo.