I always thought Phil Collins was great. As I get older I realize that I actually underestimated his enormous talent. One of the best five drummers of all time and one of the best five singers of all time.
I was there for both nights, my father owned The Uptown Theater, so I was there for The Soundcheck also, we had Thousands of bands play the 3 venue's 1 block apart from each other and Those 2 Genesis shows were no doubt the best shows I ever seen!
@@matthewimi I was there, yes this was the only time they played it. They played the chicago stadium on the first leg of the american tour, they hated the sound so they came back to chicago and played the uptown
This is incredibly crisp and a wonderful reminder of just how great Phil's voice could be. And how while he wasn't exactly Peter, his own style made a lot of the early songs "fresh" and just as good imo.
Great musicality in Phil’s voice, but sorry Peter owns this song. Is that still Steve Hackett on guitar? Whoever it is mangled The guitar solo. One of the best parts of the song . Tessitura seems a little high for Phil in the last chorus...
Shaun Kelley Phil is struggling with tessitura in a few parts of DWTMK, it should of been keyed down but Genesis refused to do that at this time, later on in years they came to realise some songs would never be performed again unless they dropped key lol. Phil had some titanic struggles on the 2007 tour with vocals and drum parts, there was a particular part of dukes travels that he couldn’t cope with anymore and they dropped trying it, you probably know the bit I mean, age catches up with everyone in the end.
He fluffed a few notes in the high range on DWTMK. So not one of his best, Phil became a much better singer around 1980, probably the highlight of his singing career with Genesis were some of the 1980-1984 live shows imo.
I agree Phil sounds incredible here. His vocals were the best from mid 70's to early 90's I thought. Great crisp sound from the band too. Thanks for posting this.
Wow. Just wow. Proof PC can do PG. In its own way late 70s and early 80s Genesis was brilliant. The setlists retained this level of adventure and inventiveness with a decent smattering of the back catalogue. Gold.
Genesis always makes me happy,because their music was such perfection in those great 70's. Banks,Gabriel,Rutherford, Collins amd Hackett...Best lineup. This song version greatly lacks Hackett, but still good
As great guitarist Daryl Stuemer is, he often over elaborates where as Steve Hackett always played just the right notes without displaying virtuosity. If anything, it's now only on the Genesis Revisited versions that he expands the guitar parts far more than the original recordings. I am a traditionalist, and like the guitar parts as they are on the originals. Still, give me Hackett any day over any other guitarist. Pure genius.
Agree that Stuermer overplays. He's an excellent guitarist, and I liked him with Jean Luc Ponty, but he never played well in Genesis. Overplayed on guitar, and was at a loss on bass.
Stephen Harper I think he was a great fit for genesis after Peter and Steve left. He wouldn’t have fit at all if he was there originally. But I think he plays this very well for playing the songs his own way. And he’s very good on bass. He was hired as a bassist and “Second Guitarist” That just sounds like ignorance.
I agree. As much as I love Daryl's own solos with Collins, I absolutely hate the way he took the famous hackett taping technique out of the way in this and replaced it with a generic speedy chromatic picking , all of this under the big thumbs up approval of the remaining members of the band. There was clearly a "we don't give a f*** about Hackett" attitude , at least in the early trio days
His voice peaked 82, still didnt fall to below this performances level until the end of the Invisible Tour. His ability to lay onto a perfectly in tune vocal fry was amazing from 1981 to 1982. He trashed his voice in the name of music, and his ears and vertebrae to.
Gabriel’s voice was so unique in that he could “reach” those high notes in this song (without necessarily hitting them). As amazing as Phil was, it sounds here like he’s really straining to hit those notes. Peter was somehow able to pull it off. Tough to sing live for sure.
Wow! I've never heard this song sung by Phil, what a fantastic recording! Although he struggled to hit certain high notes at times, I thought his tone was really good even though a little polite for my taste. Peter sung it with more force and authority and has a fuller tone which suits the song slightly better. Although Darryl Strummer is technically a very good player I think his musicality is lacking because his solo completely ruins it for me. Steve is a true artist who knows how to craft perfect solos that raise the songs to higher emotional levels. Just because you can play fast runs doesn't mean you have to. Finally, another example of how incredible Phil Collins was as a drummer, Chester cannot equal Phil's playing throughout and especially in the closing section of The Musical Box. Listen to Chester playing it here and then listen to Phil playing from the first Genesis Live album and you'll see what I mean. Also listen to the Dancing With The Moonlit Knight version from the Genesis Archive 1967-75 and you will hear Phil's Drum mastery!
I find that very odd, Phil was always better than Peter at high notes, but for some reason here he's struggling. I'd say his voice was worn out on this show, and that screaming at the end of The Musical Box doesn't help much either!
There used to be a bootleg vinyl version of this entire show called "Live From the Mouth of the Monster" (such a killer title)...if ANYONE has this in digital audio versions (I used to have the vinyl but my stuff is in storage), I would be GRATEFUL to get a copy of it.
Wow! I had no idea they ever performed this much of the song with Phil on vocals! So cool to hear the double drums! And Phil's voice really works well!
Is it just me, cause the the keyboard/drum combo at 4:25 just taps right into my brain and leaves me in a state of bliss. Nice surprise to find the segue into The Musical Box at 6:00. Also, if you need an early Genesis fix, G2 are playing at High Wycombe Old Town Hall, UK on Sat 21st, see you there.
Very happy with Phil Collins' performance. It seems that there is only one Steve Hackett, though. 80s generic MTV metal a couple of years in advance, with the guitar bit.
@@caryheuchert In fact, when you listen to "And then there were three", you can see they are trying to keep the same kind of sound as in WW, especially with Burning rope with Mike playing guitar in a way reminescent of Steve, but they just can't pull it off. My opinion is that they realized themselve at this point they couldn't go on without Hackett and do what they were used to do and they evolved to something else. It was the right decision for sure.
Love this version but my sincere listener's critic is: -Sublime keyboards. Tony's set between 1976-1980 is one of my favorites. Love the CP-70 and the organ, plus Mellotrons performed for the last time in this tour. -Generally the band is very good. -Phil Collins does a great job singing the song in his style. Of course he's not Gabriel but his rendition is very powerful. -Loved the transition to Musical Box including part of the original finale, not performed in the Phil's version of Musical Box in any tour since 1977, only as part of the complete track with Peter and Steve until 1975. -Only bad thing about this version is the Stuermer's efforts to play the song in his own. The variations doesn't sound good. In Musical Box he does a better job, but Dancing... was a very difficult song for him. It's one of that few songs where you can think "Is Hackett or nothing". That may be the main reason this song was not played anymore since that day.
Gerry Berry there’s a solo by Rutherford that I love on his (alleged) first crack at lead, Many too many off ATTWT. I love that solo at the end but it should of carried on for longer because it was just getting interesting when it was faded out. Rutherford played some great solos like home by the sea pt2 and the Abacab one comes to mind.
@Gerry Berry Interesting reply but not unexpected. It is safe to say that Collins' presence in the band resulted in more improvisation (he was playing with Brand X during that period). While this occurred in the studio ("Waiting Room" on TLLDoB), once recorded, these tunes were played live as close to the recording as possible. Hackett probably looked at his solos as written parts to be played like a recital. That's all well and good. Their style and execution resulted in one of the best live albums in rock history. One more thing for consideration. The mid to late 70's was a time for guitar shredders. That Genesis went in that direction was no surprise Heck, they picked Steumer for his versatility and skill set. How long would he have stayed in the band had they not liked his contributions. Funny that we don't hear negative comments about Chester Thompson.
I'm a bit surprised that Tony and Mike didn't request Daryl to calm down a bit. Just because you can play lots of fast notes doesn't mean you have to. But then again this is about the time that Eddie Van Halen showed up so I reckon these guys had to show off as well as they could. '78 in particular was the year of nifty guitar solos...just about every song on the radio had one.
I love and I hate Genesis, I love them for everything they've done, and I hate them because they have never played in Mexico. Once I was in Tijuana, a few minutes away from San Diego Sports Arena where they played a few days before I got there, my heart shrank.
So glad Phil is feeling better, and going out for a Genesis world tour with Steve Hackett! Moonlit Knights to follow in 2018!! Peter, just stay home, we got this.
As a brilliant and technically excellent guitarist Daryl Stuemer is, he often over elaborates. For me, less is more, and Steve Hackett's style and economy of playing suited the songs better. On these versions of Dance with the Moonlit Knight, and the Musical Box, there is too much flashy overplaying. It is something that Hackett never could be accused of whilst in Genesis. The band really lost out when both Hackett and Peter Gabriel left. However, it cannot be denied that Banks, Rutherford and Collins did write some great material as the trio. Thankfully, there seems now no hope of the classic line-up reforming and playing again. Their time was then. Everything was recorded for all time, and that's where it should stay.
Hackett style is not economy, he that couldn't play that fast :). Stuermer obviously did things in its way because that's his style. And he's american. Imagine a player have to play the exact same shit night after night without changing a note. Not everyone is available to do that. That's what Hackett did and probably Stuermer tried to mix up things in order to not go crazy.
There's no hope I agree. First Phil is in bad condition physically. Second Peter would as always be uncertain to perform badly. Hackett already saturated the market with 20 years of tribute bands to Genesis
Phil does a great job on the vocal part. But although the guitar playing of Daryl sometimes seeing overpowering he did somewhat of a good job but it's not the great Fitness Genesis guitar playing of Steve Hackett you can tell the difference. But overall a great job
andyman0231 different styles, Stuermer is too noodly for these songs, Firth of fifth solo is terrible when he plays it. Hackett just had that “less is more” feel that’s needed to play those solos properly.
@@knust2329 I mean because of how people say Steve’s a virtuoso so his solos are virtuosic. But Daryl’s solos are just as awesome! In my opinion better usually. Their both extremely talented musicians but I just prefer Daryl’s solo
"Ok Daryl, do whatever during the solo,it's all yours, as long as you keep the cues the same as we need ".....they really had this "never cared for Hackett" mentality during that period, so sad.......
Not really, they knew they couldn't find someone to replace Hackett, and they never wanted Daryl to do that. He has a completely different playing style and the band wanted that difference to be heard. Of course, getting someone who was a Hackett rip-off would've set the old fans to go "this guy is trying to emulate Hackett too much", there's no winning in this situation. You people would've never been happy.
Miss hackett on this very much! Mr. Strummer does not make the grade here folks! was a great tune live and i loved it> But in looking in my rearview mirror Hacket has to be there to make it right!
Coincido absolutamente con vos, esta debe ser la mejor version del tema que he escuchado. Phil le da vida a los viejos temas de genesis, los saca de la monotonia vocal y los nutre de sentimientos, matices, frescura, intesidad. Les da el acompañamiento merecido, y potencia los grandes pasajes instrumentales propios de la banda.
Dude - do you even know what you're talking about? Daryl is an amazing guitarist. Especially at that time he was way ahead of Hackett technically. Want to hear sloppy guitar playing? Listen to some of the soundboard tapes from The Lamb tour and Steve's solos.
Sloppy? Mike has said repeatedly that Daryl is a technically superior player to himself. IF you want to tell us that you like the way Steve played it better, fine, although the entire band is playing differently in '78 compared to '73. But this "Daryl Sucks" meme has gone on plenty long enough.
@@Drchainsaw77 I assume you mean that Steve said that Daryl is a technically superior player. Because I think everyone can agree that both Daryl and Steve are technically superior to Mike (on guitar). I do think Mike is a great writer and handling bass, acoustic guitar, bass pedals and backing vocals on stage in the 70's is no mean feat either.
@@jasperdevries1726 I don't know of Steve saying any such thing, or of Steve and Daryl having ever mentioned one another. I do recall having heard Mike praise Daryl's superior chops on at least one occasion. Superior, that is, to Mike. No one in the band has made any comparisons that I'm aware of.
@@Drchainsaw77 I have read several interviews with both Daryl and Steve over the years and they have always been complimentary of the other player. In fact, they sat together at the induction of the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame and had a lovely chat, according to Daryl :).
There's this Chicago show in its entirety, and there's the London Lyceum May 6 show from 1980 that is of absolutely excellent quality. You can find them here on TH-cam!
He was new to the band, and for the most part did a good job covering Hackett's parts....but, I feel he overstepped his bounds on this tune. The guitar part is integral to the song, and he changed it. Not for the better.
Best leave well alone. There should not be a reunion tour. Memories of the classic line-up are well documented, and there would be a sense of anti-climax.
Yes, it sounds softer like he was still used to the more choral and steady backing vocals those first few years. His voice did get stronger by Duke, songs like Squonk at the Lyceum he's got a good deal of oomph, I don't think he could sustain it for all those high notes but I loved what he did with the first verse.
Imagine being one of the best drummers in the world and then also one of the best singers 😇
I always thought Phil Collins was great. As I get older I realize that I actually underestimated his enormous talent. One of the best five drummers of all time and one of the best five singers of all time.
100% agree
I am with you there, my appreciation of his enormous talent keeps growing. I took it for granted when I was younger.
Drummer yes, singer no way.
@@keithhutchins8803 singer yes way. f off
@@keithhutchins8803 👈clueless
I was there for both nights, my father owned The Uptown Theater,
so I was there for The Soundcheck
also, we had Thousands of bands play the 3 venue's 1 block apart from each other and Those 2 Genesis shows were no doubt the best shows I ever seen!
Rene Rabiela Did you see the Grateful Dead play there?
I was there!
You were there?!?!?! 😱. Insane! And musical box mixed in at end. I hear they didn't do it in any other part of the tour. Is that right? Just there.
@@matthewimi I was there, yes this was the only time they played it. They played the chicago stadium on the first leg of the american tour, they hated the sound so they came back to chicago and played the uptown
Great. I was at one of those Uptown shows. Wonderful show; wonderful venue.
Dancing With Moonlit Knight is the best Genesis song ever
Gerry Berry was a typo, already corrected
Gerry Berry thanks!
@Gerry Berry Agreed about Stuermer, but I think there should be some other guitar player that could reproduce Hackett's spirit in that song.
It's not as good as Land of Confusion... Not even close
Oh man it is.
this performance was so ..... well, I'm at a loss for words. It had me in tears, hearing them young and in such peak form.
This is incredibly crisp and a wonderful reminder of just how great Phil's voice could be. And how while he wasn't exactly Peter, his own style made a lot of the early songs "fresh" and just as good imo.
Great musicality in Phil’s voice, but sorry Peter owns this song. Is that still Steve Hackett on guitar? Whoever it is mangled The guitar solo. One of the best parts of the song . Tessitura seems a little high for Phil in the last chorus...
@@Profundobasso This would have been the And Then There Were Three tour, so no, it's Darryl.
Shaun Kelley Phil is struggling with tessitura in a few parts of DWTMK, it should of been keyed down but Genesis refused to do that at this time, later on in years they came to realise some songs would never be performed again unless they dropped key lol. Phil had some titanic struggles on the 2007 tour with vocals and drum parts, there was a particular part of dukes travels that he couldn’t cope with anymore and they dropped trying it, you probably know the bit I mean, age catches up with everyone in the end.
@@Eleventhearlofmars it is absolutely normal, that the key is a bit lower, when the singer gets older.
funklover24 yep, with very few exceptions.
can't believe how great Phil sounds
He fluffed a few notes in the high range on DWTMK. So not one of his best, Phil became a much better singer around 1980, probably the highlight of his singing career with Genesis were some of the 1980-1984 live shows imo.
@@Eleventhearlofmars Phil's peak was the Mama tour.
Unbelievable fantastic. Goosebumps. Immortal music. Pure Art from a golden Time/Era
I agree Phil sounds incredible here. His vocals were the best from mid 70's to early 90's I thought. Great crisp sound from the band too. Thanks for posting this.
I dont think he quite obtained that vocal fry/confidence until the Abacab album and tour, but this is a step up from the 1976/77 shows.
Wow. Just wow. Proof PC can do PG. In its own way late 70s and early 80s Genesis was brilliant. The setlists retained this level of adventure and inventiveness with a decent smattering of the back catalogue. Gold.
Genesis always makes me happy,because their music was such perfection in those great 70's. Banks,Gabriel,Rutherford, Collins amd Hackett...Best lineup.
This song version greatly lacks Hackett, but still good
Great Version, good quality. Phil's Voice sounds great !
2 phantastic singer in one band! It's amazing! It's a miracle!
I love the Peter stuff but I really do love when Phil sings it
This guy is pure talent. I wish him the best ! We all love you Phil !
A masterful dovetailing of Dancing Out With the Moonlit Knight and the closing section of The Musical Box. Electric in its intensity.
Ah that Musical Box ending is so inspired. Gives me goosebumps.
"With a trick of the tail we go"
Heheh I see what you did there.
yeah I love that
As great guitarist Daryl Stuemer is, he often over elaborates where as Steve Hackett always played just the right notes without displaying virtuosity. If anything, it's now only on the Genesis Revisited versions that he expands the guitar parts far more than the original recordings. I am a traditionalist, and like the guitar parts as they are on the originals. Still, give me Hackett any day over any other guitarist. Pure genius.
Agree that Stuermer overplays. He's an excellent guitarist, and I liked him with Jean Luc Ponty, but he never played well in Genesis. Overplayed on guitar, and was at a loss on bass.
Stephen Harper I think he was a great fit for genesis after Peter and Steve left. He wouldn’t have fit at all if he was there originally. But I think he plays this very well for playing the songs his own way. And he’s very good on bass. He was hired as a bassist and “Second Guitarist” That just sounds like ignorance.
I agree. As much as I love Daryl's own solos with Collins, I absolutely hate the way he took the famous hackett taping technique out of the way in this and replaced it with a generic speedy chromatic picking , all of this under the big thumbs up approval of the remaining members of the band. There was clearly a "we don't give a f*** about Hackett" attitude , at least in the early trio days
Agree on that..the part from 3:06..to 3:46 really pisses me off . overplayed messy sound.
Sounds great almost 40 years later! Loved how they transitioned into The Musical Box.
Obrigado Phil!!!!!! Vocal único!!!!! 🎵🎤🥁🎹
I was there. First recorded on cassette via WXRT, then transferred to CD. Oh, memories! :-)
This is a masterpiece!!!
Man, Phil Collins is on his absolute prime on this version , Chester adding some of the new sounds from phil’s drum set is awesome
I just love Genesis and have done for 40 yrs
Love the Musical Box Ending..... When music was Great.....
Thank you PHIL ... Peter was extra : Phil very good also /// exceptional tracks : Dancing with the Moonlit Knight and MUSICAL BOX !!!
Too good! I love it. I'm a recent Genesis fan, always skipped the moment to get into it but now I can't get out of it.
Phil your voice is great this is a good song
This man is a very talented fellow
Une patate incroyable, monstrueux, bref, c'est Genesis.
Spectacular! Thanks for the trip down memory lane.
I was at this concert, 10th row center, I believe it was the Grenada Theater, small venue no more than 4000.
Discovering Genesis before the Apocalypse is Earth Shattering!
Phil screaming "now, now, now, now, now!" sounds a lot like Peter!
meu Deus ! como phil fez isso Ja ser incrível.. ser fenomenal
this was phil at his prime, and this song ravages the weak and makes those of hardship woke!!
His voice peaked 82, still didnt fall to below this performances level until the end of the Invisible Tour. His ability to lay onto a perfectly in tune vocal fry was amazing from 1981 to 1982. He trashed his voice in the name of music, and his ears and vertebrae to.
Gabriel’s voice was so unique in that he could “reach” those high notes in this song (without necessarily hitting them). As amazing as Phil was, it sounds here like he’s really straining to hit those notes. Peter was somehow able to pull it off. Tough to sing live for sure.
Wow! I've never heard this song sung by Phil, what a fantastic recording! Although he struggled to hit certain high notes at times, I thought his tone was really good even though a little polite for my taste. Peter sung it with more force and authority and has a fuller tone which suits the song slightly better. Although Darryl Strummer is technically a very good player I think his musicality is lacking because his solo completely ruins it for me. Steve is a true artist who knows how to craft perfect solos that raise the songs to higher emotional levels. Just because you can play fast runs doesn't mean you have to. Finally, another example of how incredible Phil Collins was as a drummer, Chester cannot equal Phil's playing throughout and especially in the closing section of The Musical Box. Listen to Chester playing it here and then listen to Phil playing from the first Genesis Live album and you'll see what I mean. Also listen to the Dancing With The Moonlit Knight version from the Genesis Archive 1967-75 and you will hear Phil's Drum mastery!
I have this show on BBC reel to reel
Now that was bloody brilliant! 🤩👍
for me Phil has the most magical voice
What a gem...
Ah man, Phil can barely hit those high notes, but he still goes for it. That's awesome.
for phil very tough and peter did with some octaves above....(can you image to freddie mercury sing this song?) ...dawmm chills me
Mercury is great but I doubt if his tone would work here.
I find that very odd, Phil was always better than Peter at high notes, but for some reason here he's struggling. I'd say his voice was worn out on this show, and that screaming at the end of The Musical Box doesn't help much either!
The Experts yes. Considering his own range was higher than Gabriel's FML
Dominos Pizza 😂😂😂😂
There used to be a bootleg vinyl version of this entire show called "Live From the Mouth of the Monster" (such a killer title)...if ANYONE has this in digital audio versions (I used to have the vinyl but my stuff is in storage), I would be GRATEFUL to get a copy of it.
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Wow! I had no idea they ever performed this much of the song with Phil on vocals! So cool to hear the double drums! And Phil's voice really works well!
Awesome version of this song. Love PC
Phil’s vocals are killer and rest of band is smoking!
Amazing sound quality.
Is it just me, cause the the keyboard/drum combo at 4:25 just taps right into my brain and leaves me in a state of bliss. Nice surprise to find the segue into The Musical Box at 6:00. Also, if you need an early Genesis fix, G2 are playing at High Wycombe Old Town Hall, UK on Sat 21st, see you there.
Very happy with Phil Collins' performance. It seems that there is only one Steve Hackett, though. 80s generic MTV metal a couple of years in advance, with the guitar bit.
@RamessesIX Peter could obviously be replaced, but not Steve. That’s why, perhaps, Genesis were never the same again after Hackett left.
@@caryheuchert In fact, when you listen to "And then there were three", you can see they are trying to keep the same kind of sound as in WW, especially with Burning rope with Mike playing guitar in a way reminescent of Steve, but they just can't pull it off. My opinion is that they realized themselve at this point they couldn't go on without Hackett and do what they were used to do and they evolved to something else. It was the right decision for sure.
@@caryheuchert How can a guy whose songs aren't getting played ruin the band when he leaves? Enough, already. It's ridiculous.
@@Paddyjack That's just it was, can't say it better. Genesis had to chance.
I’ll be honest - Daryl puts a good job into the song, but atleast Hackett didn’t start shredding through songs ;)
Love this version but my sincere listener's critic is:
-Sublime keyboards. Tony's set between 1976-1980 is one of my favorites. Love the CP-70 and the organ, plus Mellotrons performed for the last time in this tour.
-Generally the band is very good.
-Phil Collins does a great job singing the song in his style. Of course he's not Gabriel but his rendition is very powerful.
-Loved the transition to Musical Box including part of the original finale, not performed in the Phil's version of Musical Box in any tour since 1977, only as part of the complete track with Peter and Steve until 1975.
-Only bad thing about this version is the Stuermer's efforts to play the song in his own. The variations doesn't sound good. In Musical Box he does a better job, but Dancing... was a very difficult song for him. It's one of that few songs where you can think "Is Hackett or nothing". That may be the main reason this song was not played anymore since that day.
Same with Firth of fifth, stuermer totally blows the feel of that solo with the constant over playing and noodling, less is more imo.
Gerry Berry there’s a solo by Rutherford that I love on his (alleged) first crack at lead, Many too many off ATTWT. I love that solo at the end but it should of carried on for longer because it was just getting interesting when it was faded out. Rutherford played some great solos like home by the sea pt2 and the Abacab one comes to mind.
Played 10 times straight, Hackett would sound identical on each try. I will take Stuemer.
Gerry Berry nailed
@Gerry Berry Interesting reply but not unexpected. It is safe to say that Collins' presence in the band resulted in more improvisation (he was playing with Brand X during that period). While this occurred in the studio ("Waiting Room" on TLLDoB), once recorded, these tunes were played live as close to the recording as possible. Hackett probably looked at his solos as written parts to be played like a recital. That's all well and good. Their style and execution resulted in one of the best live albums in rock history.
One more thing for consideration. The mid to late 70's was a time for guitar shredders. That Genesis went in that direction was no surprise Heck, they picked Steumer for his versatility and skill set. How long would he have stayed in the band had they not liked his contributions. Funny that we don't hear negative comments about Chester Thompson.
I'm a bit surprised that Tony and Mike didn't request Daryl to calm down a bit. Just because you can play lots of fast notes doesn't mean you have to. But then again this is about the time that Eddie Van Halen showed up so I reckon these guys had to show off as well as they could. '78 in particular was the year of nifty guitar solos...just about every song on the radio had one.
Excellent !!....memories :)
Dancing With The Moonlit Knight followed by The Musical Box.
Increíble.....génesis....
I had never heard Phil sing this before. Not quite as good as Peter's version, which was amazing. Delighted to hear this performance however.
As a singer he was a great drummer.
Magical.
che meraviglia...
I love and I hate Genesis, I love them for everything they've done, and I hate them because they have never played in Mexico. Once I was in Tijuana, a few minutes away from San Diego Sports Arena where they played a few days before I got there, my heart shrank.
Hmm Phil Collins souds like Peter Gabriel (sometimes!).
phil is the best
He was a fantastic mimic. If you needed a perfect backing vocal, and need it easy... Phil was the man. NOT TO MENTION that lead vocal!
Creo que Phil cantaba más bonito que Peter...
Johan Pebble No
Sky Watcher Yes
nice pipes
this is the best of the best notice that the PA from 78 is!!
new PC lyrics at 5:20 :-) :-) grrreat band!!!
thnx for upload. the real thing. ubercool!
Interesting connection of the guitars solos of these 2 great songs, they should it done it more times.
So glad Phil is feeling better, and going out for a Genesis world tour with Steve Hackett! Moonlit Knights to follow in 2018!! Peter, just stay home, we got this.
Purplexi still would be so awesome with Peter. Cmon are ya kidding me
okay, yeah I won't lie
Just rumors at this point, although I hope it happens!
Lynn Navedo We can but dream, eh?
Purplexi Bring everyone except Banks, his bitter ass can stay home.
Daryll Streumer does *no* justice to Steve Hackett's parts here.
Agree he can't tap for a start, he shouldn't have been let loose on this beauty 😢
Follow on! with a trick of the tail we go.
I just noticed that for the first time here. Is that where they got the album title from? Or is that just something Phil added?
Isaac Koop it was added by Phil, the album was named after the song called 'A Trick of the Tail'
As a brilliant and technically excellent guitarist Daryl Stuemer is, he often over elaborates. For me, less is more, and Steve Hackett's style and economy of playing suited the songs better. On these versions of Dance with the Moonlit Knight, and the Musical Box, there is too much flashy overplaying. It is something that Hackett never could be accused of whilst in Genesis. The band really lost out when both Hackett and Peter Gabriel left. However, it cannot be denied that Banks, Rutherford and Collins did write some great material as the trio.
Thankfully, there seems now no hope of the classic line-up reforming and playing again. Their time was then. Everything was recorded for all time, and that's where it should stay.
Hackett style is not economy, he that couldn't play that fast :). Stuermer obviously did things in its way because that's his style. And he's american. Imagine a player have to play the exact same shit night after night without changing a note. Not everyone is available to do that. That's what Hackett did and probably Stuermer tried to mix up things in order to not go crazy.
There's no hope I agree. First Phil is in bad condition physically. Second Peter would as always be uncertain to perform badly. Hackett already saturated the market with 20 years of tribute bands to Genesis
I was there! Uptown Theater 10th row dead center!
Phil does a great job on the vocal part. But although the guitar playing of Daryl sometimes seeing overpowering he did somewhat of a good job but it's not the great Fitness Genesis guitar playing of Steve Hackett you can tell the difference. But overall a great job
Daryl is not in Hackett's league
andyman0231 different styles, Stuermer is too noodly for these songs, Firth of fifth solo is terrible when he plays it. Hackett just had that “less is more” feel that’s needed to play those solos properly.
Marcdoubleu22LFC I love daryls solos! They may not be as virtuosic as Steve’s solos, but their definitely amazing for ‘80s genesis
@@hpatss4966 Not as virtuosic as Hackett's solos? Are you kidding?
@@knust2329 I mean because of how people say Steve’s a virtuoso so his solos are virtuosic. But Daryl’s solos are just as awesome! In my opinion better usually. Their both extremely talented musicians but I just prefer Daryl’s solo
KNIGHTS OF THE GREEN SHIELDS STAMP AND SHOUT!!!!
It's SHIELD, singular..
Fan of a lot of Daryls playing but this is one song he should have really stuck to what Hackett had done.
He couldn't help himself, could he? Bloody dreadful.
Phil nails it..brilliant❤
ey ...Phil did it well!
"Ok Daryl, do whatever during the solo,it's all yours, as long as you keep the cues the same as we need ".....they really had this "never cared for Hackett" mentality during that period, so sad.......
Not really, they knew they couldn't find someone to replace Hackett, and they never wanted Daryl to do that. He has a completely different playing style and the band wanted that difference to be heard. Of course, getting someone who was a Hackett rip-off would've set the old fans to go "this guy is trying to emulate Hackett too much", there's no winning in this situation. You people would've never been happy.
This is the first song I heard Daryl play.It was either KFJC or KOME in '80.
Miss hackett on this very much! Mr. Strummer does not make the grade here folks! was a great tune live and i loved it> But in looking in my rearview mirror Hacket has to be there to make it right!
Best live version yet this never gets old no one can touch Hackett
phil is the best
Coincido absolutamente con vos, esta debe ser la mejor version del tema que he escuchado. Phil le da vida a los viejos temas de genesis, los saca de la monotonia vocal y los nutre de sentimientos, matices, frescura, intesidad. Les da el acompañamiento merecido, y potencia los grandes pasajes instrumentales propios de la banda.
The best
Cant he just play it like Hackett
Thank god he didn't.
Phil does a great job, but it is super easy to tell that's not Hackett. Solo beyond sloppy.
Dude - do you even know what you're talking about? Daryl is an amazing guitarist. Especially at that time he was way ahead of Hackett technically. Want to hear sloppy guitar playing? Listen to some of the soundboard tapes from The Lamb tour and Steve's solos.
Sloppy? Mike has said repeatedly that Daryl is a technically superior player to himself. IF you want to tell us that you like the way Steve played it better, fine, although the entire band is playing differently in '78 compared to '73. But this "Daryl Sucks" meme has gone on plenty long enough.
@@Drchainsaw77 I assume you mean that Steve said that Daryl is a technically superior player. Because I think everyone can agree that both Daryl and Steve are technically superior to Mike (on guitar). I do think Mike is a great writer and handling bass, acoustic guitar, bass pedals and backing vocals on stage in the 70's is no mean feat either.
@@jasperdevries1726 I don't know of Steve saying any such thing, or of Steve and Daryl having ever mentioned one another. I do recall having heard Mike praise Daryl's superior chops on at least one occasion. Superior, that is, to Mike. No one in the band has made any comparisons that I'm aware of.
@@Drchainsaw77 I have read several interviews with both Daryl and Steve over the years and they have always been complimentary of the other player. In fact, they sat together at the induction of the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame and had a lovely chat, according to Daryl :).
I would love to hear a live recording(legit)of this tour or Duke.
just stumbled on this post, I have this show if you're still looking for it
There's this Chicago show in its entirety, and there's the London Lyceum May 6 show from 1980 that is of absolutely excellent quality. You can find them here on TH-cam!
On the Duke tour they only played the intro.
Easy now... Sit you down. Chewing...
I had the chance to buy the "Live From The Mouth of The Monster" bootleg this is from.
I'm an idiot for not getting it. Now I can't find it.
My uncle worked at a record shop and bought that for my dad a while back!!
Stuermer, what are you doing?
Wonderful The Musical Box interlude in the final.
Stuemer is lost again!!! he is playing another song?
He was new to the band, and for the most part did a good job covering Hackett's parts....but, I feel he overstepped his bounds on this tune. The guitar part is integral to the song, and he changed it. Not for the better.
Follow on... with a trick of the tail we go...
Oh men!!
I tought it was Peter at first
Nelson Robert Willis for real!
Pity the audience felt the need to screech through the first couple of minutes
Typical American audience.
Il Paradiso si può toccare e ascoltare
Cannot take it anymore tonight. - have to walk the dog and I'm running out of iPad time................
Best leave well alone. There should not be a reunion tour. Memories of the classic line-up are well documented, and there would be a sense of anti-climax.
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Chester was missing a couple snare hits
The photo comes from Chicago?
Phil lacked the power in his voice to pull this off. They stuck to the first verse during the Duke tour.
Yes, it sounds softer like he was still used to the more choral and steady backing vocals those first few years. His voice did get stronger by Duke, songs like Squonk at the Lyceum he's got a good deal of oomph, I don't think he could sustain it for all those high notes but I loved what he did with the first verse.
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What would've happened to Genesis if Phil couldn't sing??
They would have taken a few years off, and then gotten Fish before Marillion snatched him up. ;)
Dreadful. Exhibit A on why Genesis faltered after Peter and Steve left. The original was nuanced and sublime. This is crass; in-your-face noise.