SMOOTH Set and Inspect Performs Automatic Dual Probing
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- Watch to see how the SMOOTH Set and Inspect feature of our MAZATROL SMOOTH CNCs can help you easily run a dual probing operation for fast tool and workpiece setups.
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Great video! Probing on Mazak's have been available for decades. Some comments missed the point. We wouldn't be watching a video about probing from the 2000s... 😂
I like the interface. As a long-time Haas fanboy I'm pretty impressed with how elegant the Mazak solution seems to be. Great video.
The interface shown is actually renishaws not mazaks. You can load the same software on your PC to build probing programs.
I use the same software as shown on my Okuma controller. It's decent software but lacks some basic features you'd expect from modern software
FRP correct. Renishaw’s Set and Inspect software is integrated directly the machine using Mazak’s Smooth API. On machines where this is not possible, you can run their software on a PC or mobile phone if you like, or simply program with their Inspection Plus or Go Probe macros. There are many ways to get good probing code.
Kitamura has the exact same Set and Insepect software on their Arumatik-Mi controls. It's as easy to use as WIPS.
Thanks for featuring our OneLOK! Awesome video!
My heidenhain use a touch probe cycle like this in 2002, 😂
These systems are available to many machine tools, including legacy equipment. Mazak works closely with Renishaw to offer the best probing solutions available on the market.
@@mazakdan5405 best probing solutions on the market?!?! HAHAHA. Apparently you’ve never seen Heidenhain. My iTNC530’s from 2003 have more advanced cycles and better probe safety software than my 2019 mazak Integrex. Mazak is unfortunately a cheaply made machine with a very weak and poorly designed control
basicly every cnc made in the 2000s has this xd
It’s like a music video for machinists 👍🏻
Don't forget to talk to your post processor provider to automatically set and inspect your tools upon cycle start. The possibilities are endless with this set up. No need for cmm if you set it up right. I use this on a daily basis and I am impressed how simple it is to recalibrate everything yourself. And Renishaw support is second to none.
>no need for a cmm
>absolutele pish
"upon cycle start"
what does that mean?
it runs through the tool list and measures length of tool for each tool. make sure to make it optional incase your running multiple that day. just have to turn on the block skip for that. kand the next time you turn it back on the block skip is automatic back off in the mazak so its a nice quick safety check. just hold your set up sheet and verify each tool is correct as you see it cycle.@@fredrezfield1629
Smooth indeed! Slick even. Great demonstration of this capability. Two thumbs up.
damn those tools comes down hard on that probe lol
Renishaw's software is pretty smart about that. The tools spin backwards and the RPM is calculated based on tool diameter. The trade-off is of course the slower the spindle speed, the longer the cycle will take. Rest assured, this is a proven technology, and Renishaw's default values have worked well for many years.
There are also alternatives such as non-contact laser tool setters and tool breakage detection in magazine available depending on your application and desired machine platform.
@@mazakdan5405 i mean on non spinning tools
@@qqqqqqqq1407 Oh, I understand you. If you deflect the tool setter stylus with your hand, you can push it quite a bit further before it stops. You're right, though; that tool is coming down with tremendous force!
@@mazakdan5405 Please create another video that shows these other configurations and capabilities. Perhaps even show how such tools and techniques could enable more reliable lights-out operation and higher levels of automation.
Maybe you should see this video and know what is to come fast to the setter: th-cam.com/video/CzdUpx64pPI/w-d-xo.html
Love those soft Jaws on my favorite cnc machine 😍
that facemill is pretty juicy tho
Agreed! It is a 210mm Sandvik M5C90 finishing face mill: www.sandvik.coromant.com/en-us/industrysolutions/automotive/engine/pages/m5c90.aspx
Very intuitive!
I feel I could do this myself now!
Take a look at the spindle housing size..huge
Very pro video, super impressive machine. I work with Fadals from the 90's. This machine is blowing my mind.
I see they've recreated WIPS
Little life hack: instead of using a piece of paper, use a gauge pin/endmill. Jog your tool down near the surface then slowly up while trying to slide the pin underneath the tool. Safer, faster, and more accurate than the paper method.
Then you run a risk of snapping the corners of your cutter. Better life hack: face the top with that tool then set your TLO on a machined surface rather than raw stock.
Ill just use the renishaw probe on my mazak...
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Haas does all this with a $6000 option.
Apples and oranges.. but yeah, every machine has a probing option these days, even the lighter duty ones.
My Haas VF4 does this as well!!
Grob + Siemens ❤️
why the RMP vs OMP spindle probe?
Nerdly the radio system is more reliable if you have big fixtures or rotary tables which can block line of sight. The RMI-Q also enables you to pair multiple probes for different stylus lengths or tip geometries. It’s not required for every application, but these features can really pay off for some applications.
mazakdan I have a couple of OMP’s. I like the idea of keep probes with varying styli tip sizes.
@@NerdlyCNC There are also different tip geometries which can be useful: www.renishaw.com/en/types-of-styli--6627
It is a good idea to reach out to Renishaw if you need something like that, though. The more complicated tips sometimes need special software to use properly.
www.renishaw.com/contacts/en/Worldwide-offices
Que buen video soy de Colombia
You know they make indicators that allow you to set your tool offset in your mill, and then you take the difference of your stock by however tall that indicator is?
Of course. A properly calibrated probe will save time and offers additional in-process inspection capabilities, but there are many good ways to teach tools and work offsets:
Big Kaiser Base Master:
www.bigkaiser.com/en/products/measuring-instruments/tool-offsets/base-master
Haimer 3D Sensor:
www.haimer-usa.com/products/measuring-instruments/sensors/3d-sensor/universal-3d-sensor/universal-3d-sensor.html
same thing haas has
Can you use the tool probe to check for a broken part probe?
That is not recommended!
Does this software also work with other tool setters like Metrol? Charles
Smooth Set and Inspect was created by Renishaw using the Mazak Smooth API.
While the Renishaw software only supports their product, the Smooth API exists to facilitate development of custom applications on Mazak machines.
Fantastic. Very nearly as good as my Tormach!
We still use a .001 shim to set all of our lengths
Um sonho meu de consumo. ☹
Hass is no where new mazaktrol as in machinery
Why does this video make it look like probing is a break through? It’s been around for years. One of our machines uses a laser beam to set tools. Now that’s new.
Probing is new to some people. This video is intended to demonstrate a very popular work flow. Mazak also offers Renishaw NC4 laser systems, as well as the capability to detect broken tools inside the magazine so your cycle time is not affected. There are cost and usability considerations with each of these options. Our goal is always to offer the optimal machine tool to meet our customers' needs.
@@mazakdan5405 It would be interesting to have a Blum laser instead of an NC4 in order to have the full reliability in front of difficult machining conditions
The interface itself is the breakthrough. Very slick indeed.
@@miguelmoyano6458 I know some Mazaks have these systems installed, but I have not personally had an opportunity to work with Blum hardware yet.
There are still a lot of shops that edge find and tool set in the machine as shown. Then again, there are a lot of people fixated on up-front cost, who never do a single bit of cost analysis too. And they typically waste a lot of money.. while complaining about the competition.
왓더.. 스핀들 돌면서 터치 센서 뭐임.. 센서장치 안망가짐?
У нас на всех станках такие головки стоят с 2008 года. А длина инструмента измеряется на Blum лазером.
Привет а у вас это где? И на каких машинах?
@@nature-germany привет в России в Новосибирске. Станки 5 координат: DMU, GANTRY, UBZ, MAKINO MAK 3, еще есть не помню название. И по дюрали и по сталям и по титанам. Моделей и марок всяких много перечислять не охота. Только на 3х координатных ХААСах такие как на видео. Я просто названия станков помню, на которые лично программы пишу. А остальные в других цехах. А, вспомнил, еще MAZAK и MINX (вроде так называется) есть. Там еще какие то есть, но это уже совсем экзотические названия. Навалом добра в общем. К сожалению, российских станков такого уровня пока нет.
@@user-pw1sb5co7cНовосибирск... я сам с Омска в Германии работаю на DMU 75 monoBlock HEIDENHAIN i530 вот интересно стало на чём в России работают.))))))))
@@nature-germany в данный момент пишу программы в основном на DMU 85 monoBlock стали и титаны. И дюрали на DMU 80, DMU 100, DMU120. Да, еще Трунион есть. У нас все на Sinumerik 840D кроме хаасов.
@@user-pw1sb5co7cу нас всё Heidenhain и DMU машины 40% программ пишу сам на машине остальное CAM Soldworks
Al 7075?
Hmmm I am pretty sure it was just 6061 in this case, but I did not check.
Все обычно заканчивается когда начальство узнает сколько это стоит. У кого то дорогой щуп, у кого то время .
Ok dar nu este perfect .prinderea piesei manual ? Nu .activam o masa magnetica s au o menghina pe sistem .😢.
Mazak and the paper trick? Lol cmon guys
Это как на врашение он привязался?
Так датчиков не напосешься
Там датчик каленый, фреза на не больших оборотах идет и без нагрузки. 5 лет использую, размеры до сотки ловит
That mazak looks dirty
Just wait until it's been running 24/7 for twenty or thirty years :P
Nah. I meant dirty as in cool or awesome 😎
Oh wired!
Optical measuring is 100x faster. Why should I waste time on my machine to measur tools?
That is a good question! The choice between a contact tool sensor, like the one shown in this video, vs a non-contact tool sensor, like the Renishaw NC4 laser system, involves more than just price. The laser system will require precise beam alignment and depends on line of sight and sophisticated coolant drip rejection algorithms. These are permanent and difficult to install in the field but there are major benefits as well, to be sure. Contact tool sensors are less expensive and very easy to add, remove, or relocate within the work envelope as needed.
At the highest levels of automation, you would have an offline tool presetter which communicates with your machines over your network and/or using RFID chips embedded into the tool holders. This way, your machinist simply puts the tool into any pocket in the magazine, and the machine automatically knows which type of tool it is, its precise dimensions, and its maximum tool life or tool life remaining. Redundant tools can be available for the machine to automatically use once a tool reaches its end of life or is detected as broken or out of tolerance.
If you would like to discuss this in more depth, both Renishaw and Mazak would be happy to help you determine the best solution for your needs.
www.mazakusa.com/offices-and-distributors/
www.renishaw.com/contacts/en/worldwide-offices
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I have 3 mazak machines, (2 lathes and 1 center) the last is 530c, and this is the ultimate mazak machine that I will buy. Poor quality, a lot of reparations, bad electronical.
Too little too late. Your tool data table is a joke as well
Yeah...it’s really taxing on brain duty to tell the control how long the tool is AND it’s diameter. OMG...I need a week off work to recover. Flake!!!