Powerful Roughing with Incredible Indexable Cutters | CNC Mill Tooling + Machining
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 2 ต.ค. 2024
- Indexable tooling is loved by CNC Machine Shops because when a tool wears down, you only have to replace the inserts, instead of the entire tool. Over the span of years, replacing just the inserts, could save a machine shop a lot of money on that particular job...
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Great content! I'm a tool grinder myself, running an ANCA. It's been nice being able to actually show people what I do!
Great content, thank you for your effort.
Just like a chain saw chain, only this has more "meat" behind the cutting edge. That cutter is hogging out a lot of material for sure.
You're right, those might be a very expensive bit/cutter but, as you said, if you're doing a project that's worth 10 x's more, you're money ahead in the long run. Great video, cheers :)
Changing out inserts ain't nothing. Try telling that to some of the people I work with. Haha.
My shop makes these
5am on a Sunday?
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I just added the Harvi Ultra 8X to a titanium job we have and it’s amazing! I like your idea of having 2 to flip the inserts as one cuts to minimize down time. Let’s see if my Boss likes this idea also so I can order another one!🤣
What's the pricetag on a monster like that?
@@DUIofPhysics We got it a little cheaper because it’s under a new machine voucher through Kennametal, the total cost for the cutter, holder, 50 inserts to start was a little over $3000. The one we got takes 40 inserts, the inserts have 8 cutting edges to rotate to.
Watch the inserts on the end station closely, they tend to break because they sit negative axially and when the insert goes, usually the pockets on taken with it.
Seen this countless times
@@moonryder203 what is the machine?
@@alexkern9134 I’m running this on a DMG DMU75. It has a HSK63A spindle. Can’t push it to its full potential but if you have a 50 taper spindle this cutter can definitely be pushed more.
Why you sold or not working on Makino now??
When one tool costs more than my entire machine shop.
I bet that thing needs some serious horsepower to really take advantage of those inserts.
Sounded like a big diesel powering the spindle near the end of the video.
Reminds me of my days on the rigs.
As per my post above, when we ran ours @ 2.5” doc, the spindle load would be right at 90-100. Our machine is designed to be able to run @ 200 without issue for quite a while. Is pretty unnerving seeing it in action for the first few times lmao!!
Lol I still remember that video with the haas. That was crazy
I immediately recognized it as well. That was awesome.
1 insert breaks, and the cutter is fucked
Why do you always favour Climb Milling over Conventional Milling? even for roughing out. I know Climb Milling you get a better surface finish, but you don't need that for roughing out, so do you do it purely because these machines can handle it? or is there another reason?.
Most carbide tools like chip form to be thick on entry and thin on exit, better tool life in most situations
Hey Titan, at my shop where I used to work (I’m in the hospital recovering from a t-bone hit and run on my bike), we use an Ingersoll tool similar but even bigger. Took 6 rows of 7 inserts each. Can take about 3.5” depth of cut. Those tools are definitely for a very strong setup and machine!
Hi I have Kennametal 5230VS09 Chevron long edge milling cutter Diameter 50mm X Long 100mm, I use for aluminium only can you give the cutting parameter? RPM, Feed, step over. Currently I use but more noise and vibrating.
I like the idea of getting 3 of those tools so that you change the inserts while machining...
Inspiring tips, thanks Titan to make us much more productive.
Haven't we already seen this video ? Still cool but i got this "deja vu" feeling
Facemilling is facemilling, but yes I’m pretty sure this is a lot of the footage from the “pushing a cnc machine past it’s limits” videos
Hell yeah Titan, thanks for sharing!
You never talk about the spindle and forces they take and upgrades
Not quite sure what you want them to say regarding these tbh
the clip with the harvi ultra 8x :
its too slow, dont use the cutters for massive material removement. use a highfeed cutter head and punch out the material stepways in z axis wich is always much more stable. then follow the conture with the indexable cutter.
but nice video thank you TITAN ;)
We have Kennametal high feed face mills and they continue to impress me. They outperform our 30 horse Okuma in low gear I’d love to see what one can actually do.
Love machining 4140 On a manual lathe, getting close and personal with it, Racing that heat dropping chips,
Hey I’m a programmer like ur self one Day I’ll be there ... on other note have u tryed 2 in wave cutters
That harvi 8 is a beast, I've used one made by iscar but it has ripper style tips in it.
The only problem is that it's normally used on a machine like a vf9 so spindle power let's the cutter down.
@Titan have you seen the rotovise? This thing looks like it would help with production quite a bit, might be worth taking a look at
You have grate machine shop nice quality work and nice condition to work in.
I want to try do that stuff. But it looks..... complicated....
How do it stand against say stainless steel like 1.4662
good tools titans
Doosan DVF 5000 vs DMG DMU 50 3rd gen? My shop is looking at purchasing a new 5x machine.
Anyone have experience with either or both machines?
I have ran both and will say that right away… The DVF5000 is less expensive by a lot …. So that’s not a fair comparison.
Jump to the DVF6500 and now your apples and apples on price.
But the DVF6500 has dual A drives which gives Crazy rigidity, glass scales and is a monster machine.
I did a video on the DVF6500, look it up on my channel.
From what I understand:
Doosan = rigidity
DMG = accuracy & speed
wu tang..
that's forever
For the children
4140 is a great material to cut