Star Trek: Discovery 3x06 Sneak Peek Clip 1 "Scavengers"
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The look on their faces when they’re told the 1000 year old ship is a rapid responder and has an “advanced drive system” lol
@MrHoppers002 I think the issue is energy efficiency. Since antimatter-matter reaction is 100% efficient, in comparison, nuclear fission is merely 0.1%, where as fusion is about 0.8%. Warp core is over 100 times more efficient (assuming energy conversion is always 100%, otherwise every single starship will be cooked by the waste heat, even if energy conversion efficiency is 99.9%).
Considering the square cube law where internal volume grows cubically compares quadratic growth of surface area of warp bubble. To move that amount of space at speed FTL will require significant amount of energy.
In canon, starship does have fusion reactor that can power warp drive to travel at warp 1 (exactly speed of light) when needed.
But considering inefficiency, should Starfleet enlarge fusion reactor to similar power source, they will suffer seriously from square cube law; where the growth in size and weight out paced growth in energy production and, counter-intuitively, resulting in a slower starship.
I have seen others argued they can power starship with microblack hole. This indeed was canon, however, to create a microblack hole in the first place, they need massive amount of power to create it, and since tiny micro blackhole evaporate way too fast to be useful, they will need a lot more energy to enlarge it so that it does not evaporate right away. All of this implies micro blackhole manufacturing is energy intensive, requiring power similar, if not more, than typical warp core. When all the dilithium are gone, this meant micro blackholes can no longer be maintained, and will eventually evaporate, stranding the starship powered by blackhole (assuming they were not destroyed by the massive amount of energy released by collapsing micro blackhole: th-cam.com/video/8nHBGFKLHZQ/w-d-xo.html)
What limits Starship is not design, is power.
So far, in Star Trek universe, except mycelial reactor, currently there is no alternative power source that is as powerful as warp core.
My wild guess is mycelial reactor may play a role in season 3, at least get mentioned once.
@MrHoppers002 Well to be fair warp isn't actually the issue at play, but rather the fact of how limited dilithium is since the burn. Warpdrive, transwarp, and slipstream all rely on power output from a warpcore even if some (slipstream) isn't specifically "warp drive". Whereas Discovery's displacement drive does not rely on high plasma energy output from a warpcore to function. The Burn isn't like the issue with an Omega particle explosion. Subspace isn't destroyed, it's just there is little usable dilithium left to sustain widespread FTL by system that rely on that kind of power. As such ships have to severly limit warp, keeping at low warp speeds at best interspersed with sublight to conserve dilithium. OTher things like the graviton sligshots are that basically it's a one way benefit, as you would need slingshots at your destination to get back in the same time. Also they may require warp-core type power as well for operation which would take us back to the issue of the dilithium shortage since The Burn.
The last type, the tachyon based solar sails that the Bajorans benefited has its own issues, as you can't move large ships with it and would just be confined to small ships. As much of what STar Fleet is doing these days is maintenance and supply runs that makes that technology pretty much useless.
@MrHoppers002 - Apparently as part of the power source, since they attempted to install it on Voyager, which lacked an alternative for generating that much power.
That said, I do wonder why a civilization that can convert matter into energy (as the transporter does) can only achieve full conversion using matter-antimatter annihilation. You would think that they would be able to generate and control the energy in other ways.
Well, it seems like 23rd century Starfleet absolutely *loved* deleting records to conceal anything questionable. Consider that the Genesis Device was seemingly forgotten and never perfected in future centuries.
@MrHoppers002 I mean if there was a huge EMF event that ruined every car made in existence (nukes can do this), those crank and start Model T's and old classic cars start lookin' pretty good when all the silicon chip's and computerized parts on today's stop working due to magnetic interference.
I like this Admiral guy, he's making all the right decisions.
Same, I was shocked that Saru asked for assignment. Even more shocked by the facial expression by attending officers. Their reaction and facial expression implied they were not briefed about Spore Drive; thus it can be deduced that Spore Drive was supposed to be a secret and Saru blew it.
In highly structured organization, blurting out random information and asking random questions are taboo. Saru violated both of them. Imagine Trump (after he's no longer the president) blurts out something like "We can shoot down ballistic missiles in blink of an eye". He will get into big trouble.
In fact, Trump had already blurted out two US secret:
1. USA's development on hypersonic missile (AGM-183)
2. USA's state of the art Keyhole spy satellite's resolution
Information 1 helps potential opponents deduce US's progress on hypersonic weapon.
Information 2 helps potential opponents (including terrorists) to accurately disguise themselves thus reducing effectiveness of Keyhole satellites.
Experts may deduce even more information from two leaks provided by Trump.
@@8749236 Take it easy... Your forgetting the “critical situation” here regarding the shape of Starfleet/Federation. In this time Starfleet needs all the help they can get to be fully restored and if that means Admiral Vance withholding information to his other officers then so be it.. he’s in charge, Saru did nothing wrong.. it’s a briefing for Christ sake lol. Don’t forget that Starfleet knows about the USS Glenn... Same ship, same Spore Drive!
Yeah they may be harsh but they definitely makes sense in the long run. What can we expect really with these people being from 900 years in the future.
@MrHoppers002 LMAO. Couldn’t have put it better. Basically makes all the 900 years of space travel development since then basically completely obsolete now.😂🤣🤣👌🏼
Now that they have the spore drive why aren't they installing them in ALL their ships?
ThIs Adirmal has made me like Star Trek Discovery a bit more.
Whys that? He's going to be another antagonist character. I wouldn't be surprised if Saru eventually becomes the Admiral, and Burnham is promoted to STD Captain.
He does... hope he is long-term
Hope he's a good admiral and not a villain
@@Knightfall182 Naw, he has the personality of Admiral Cornwell during the war essentially. Seems friendly enough, but no time for minutia
@@EirikrTinkerTries In many ways Cornwell was an antagonist, recruiting with section 31, nearly committing genocide on Kronos, recruiting the Emperor. She was never really schooled for her mistakes because shes a woman. They did the same with Romulan admiral lady in Picard.
Discovery just got a whole lot cooler - David Cronenberg as a psychologist and Oded Fehr as the Admiral. It's a keeper :D
I don't think a psychologist is all he is.
@@JustBen81 If I have to take a guess, the 'psychologist' is part of Section 31, continuing to exist even in this future.
@@thomaszinser8714 yeah - I think this is where this is going as well. And maybe section 31 kept some record of discovery.
@@thomaszinser8714 That was my take on him aswell, given how calmly he talked her down.
His performance was fantastic! He was a rare individual who could plausibly face down Georgiou, knowing exactly who and what she was, and still handle her. If he's what Section 31 has become, then they are a *lot* cooler now!
I like looking at the other captains' face when they're seem shock when they know 900yo ships has more advanced ftl travel than the current one
Revealing this to the others at this point made no tactical sense. They didn't need to know quite yet, and it's quite clear why an out of date, 900 year old ship would be kept out of action.
@@HepCatJack Could be that he trusts them well enough, or simply can't afford to leave all of them in the dark. In case something happens to him.
@@Stranglars1 - True. Also, at some point they are going to need to look at implementing the spore drive on other starships. Fortunately, they have it's inventor Stamets in addition to the drive itself. So Starfleet scientists and engineers are likely to get brought in to learn about how it works. But for now the admiral doesn't want anybody spreading the word too loudly until they have a chance to figure things out.
@@HepCatJack Keeping it secret doesn't make sense neither. Tomorrow if not today Discovery will be sent to a mission in the other side of the galaxy and it will be back for breakfast the next day. How they explain it? The only option is to keep all Discovery as a secret, not just the spore drive, by using it as a Section 31 vessel. Otherwise they have to inform other captains about its capabilities, and as high ranking officers they are people Federation can trust.
@@ramonparada Some time in the future, Stamets is not needed any more for the spore drive to work. He and Tilly are working on a solution to this, right now. Would be beyond awesome if other star fleet ships would also get this spore drive. With this, they can start putting the federation back together and go finally home to earth again. This show has now some major potential and opportunities to shine really bright. They need to work on the battles!! Way to Star Wars like still. And the female Jedi(Michael) is also not in the best interest of Star Trek.
I guess this is what the Admiral meant when he said Starfleet has been in triage mode for a long time. Look at this meeting: no more than a dozen captains and they are all assigned to supply runs, repair work, tech replacement, fighting syndicates and so on. No wonder exploration and investigation of the Burn were not high on their list.
Yes, it looks like, the Federation only exist for survive the problem and not for cure the problem.
Not like the Federation was, but the only way, they see, where they can survive, and this is not a way to survive, it is only a way to a inivitable death
Sadly It is what's left of the federation.
Most of Starfleet was destroyed in the Burn and during the decades it took to even begin to recover many worlds left the Federation. On top of that, the Burn is still a mystery and the crews of every one of those Starfleet ships has to worry that something like it might happen again. So they have had to be cautious and not rush to build a new fleet. At least until now....
@Lady Wanderer are you mad somehow?
@Lady Wanderer The last line of any organise government is the military and after what was essentially a nuclear attack on the federation on a massive scale, starfleet was and is that last line of organise government, with this admiral.
Oded Fehr kicks ass anything he does. There's a really cool short over on Dust called "Seam". Check it out.
It's like he's listed #1 on the "we need a cool, badass role filled" actor. Get Oded's people on the phone ASAP.
Sooo I assume Discovery is getting a serious refit? If it doesn’t I can’t see it surviving even a short battle with someone’s personal shuttle. Can we also discuss why quantum torpedoes are still in use after first being introduced in the late 24th century?
Exactly my point lmao
Yeah because them responding to that syndicates will result IN THEIR DEATHS assuming everyone has quantum torpedoes seeing how EP3 went down with earth 2 hits just destroyed their shields a fleet of andorians will make minced meat out of discovery
Yes I would assume so.... Because the USS Discovery NCC-1031 is the only rapid response unit the Federation available now!!!
@@yukin1990 the ONLY and i hope it will never be implemented fleet wide, it should be something that discovery has but no one can have, a fleet of spore drive ships would be OP AS FUCK
They did mention having Discovery undergo a refit in episode 5 and so I am assuming it is being refit while the rest of the crew undergoing the mentioned training.
Nice to see Oded Fehr as the Admiral. Such a wonderful actor.
Just imagine their shock to realise that a ship from over 900 years in the past is more advanced in many ways than their own. Discovery is going to change everything.
It’s been such a great series so far. Really hope it will be a long one too. We are in completely uncharted territory now for sure.
Discovery is now the new Favorite the other Captains doesn't look to too comfortable at the new guy on the table
Some of them probably still don't trust them yet. Two of the captains looked surprised when Saru expressed his lack of knowledge of the Emerald Chain, so their identities as time travellers may not be widely known yet.
I mean come on, a random ship just shows up out of no where, the crew has been away for who knows how long, and somehow they had some kind of alternative drive technology which no one found out for over 100 years after the Burn? That would sound odd to any captain at the time.
@@lezhilo772 His mention of “Highly Advanced, Top Secret Drive Technology” definitely implies the other captains are unaware of Discovery coming from the far past. Otherwise... it would be like Alexander the Great’s fleet popping up in the Gulf of Mexico with a fully functional Dark Matter reactor and would make no sense.
Then again, I wonder if Discovery will also be outfitted with upgraded shields and weapons... and warp drive. (One can hope, at least)
@@EirikrTinkerTries they mentioned that last ep right refit? Maybe new shield generators better phasers maybe quantum torpedoes
I like the new season so far, but doubz noone could place from which period the uniform/s come from. If a military officer from the 15th or even 18th century where to attend a military briefing now, it sure would not go unnoticed. And here we are talking 900 years....
@MrHoppers002 maybe they will recieve minor upgrades like to their shields or new photon torpedoes, the problem would be if they jump then all their enemies have way more powerful weapons than them you see the engagement they have with earth that took their shields out with just 2 quantum torpedoes. But im pretty sure future Starfleet can make some upgrades to it
Federation need to use spore drives on a massive scale now.
and they would need to genetically modify people to act as the navigator's for those drives XD
@@Nichodo "genetically modify people"
Saru ordered a viable option to be found with all of this new technology that would work for everyone. By the looks of the promo clips, they find one and probably wind up using Tilly's idea. If it works, then it would be a matter of converting ships to use the spore drive, finding more dark matter and growing enough spores to be self sustaining. However, l all of the ships may not be able to be converted and will the life forms in the network they travel on be fine with it.
@@Nichodo - You would think that since the Eugenics Wars happened twelve centuries prior, the Federation would probably be less paranoid about it now. Especially when used for such a specific purpose. Khan's been dead for a *long* time!
@@daniels7907 Yeah
Anyone else getting some Bajoran vibes from the new uniforms?
At first, I didn't like this admiral very much...but then I had to think, "What if I were in HIS place?" I would have been as skeptical, if not more, at Discovery's arrival as well.
That first captain’s name is Kardashev! As in Nikolai Kardashev, creator of the Kardashev Scale of Technological Advancement! Ohh, I love that.
And is Octopus-Head’s name _Rama?_
I think his ship is the Kardashev, closed captions on Ready Room gave him a different name
@@lordhoot1 Ohhh. Okay, yeah, that would make more sense.
BUT, Rama is named Rama nonetheless.
he actually does, bless em for the nods
I wonder if the copy of the Doctor from "Living Witness" is still around, this would be a century after he was reactivated.
According to the timeline this happened in 3074 so it's entirely possible for him to be around. It said he served as the surgical chancellor for many years so 100+ years would be enough time to do that and return to the Alpha Quadrant.
That would be a cool way to do a crossover.
@MrHoppers002 nah they'd never do that. They don't want another straight white old guy as a lead. They need to have their tokenized minorities so they can continue to push their agendas instead of decent characters and story telling.
@@august7535 really hate to break it to you but star trek has always been about pushing boundaries thats why u have the first interracial kiss between kirk and uhura it why you have a multi national bridge crew in tos in Russians
@@august7535 So it takes white male leads to make good show, and anything else is just tokenism? How very 1960's.
I'm loving this! Looking forward to this episode.
Oded Fehr is one of those people WHO CAN COMMAND a room with his presence. He has SUCH COMMAND of his characters too. I remember him from Once Upon a Time and Charmed.
I also remember him from "The Mummy" films as Ardeth Bay.
I’ve seen him in the Resident Evil film series, and he had a recurring character in NCIS.
AS A PERSON WHO DOS NOT LIKE NEW STAR TREK. .... A SCENE LIKE THIS GIVES ME HOPE FOR THE FUTURE OF THIS FRANCHISE.
GLAD TO HEAR ONE HATER IS NOT TOTAL LOST TO NEW
STAR TREK! :-)
I was hoping the discovery crew would get 32 century uniforms not just the combadge
Me tooo
Keeping their old uniforms is a choice that makes no sense. As would no visual design changes to the ship's interior.
@@Vipre- I agree. I just wish they kept it simple with the uniforms!
@MrHoppers002 We'd certainly require them to upgrade if only for the fact there's no stock of 75 year old uniforms to resupply them with. Beyond that uniforms sort of indicate who's allowed where at a glance. Having people running around a base looking like they're from the cast of Pearl Harbor would be a mess.
Keeping their uniforms makes them unique to the times. In episode 3x05... the current starfeelt brand is under triage. So a reminder of a more revered time is always welcome.
Captain Bandra is like ' wtf bro, why you sending me on a two month mission when Disco can literally be there in 5 minutes'
Militarized Starfleet = Terran empire + M.A.C.O
Ardeth Bey sure took a career change protecting the ruins of Hamunaptra to protecting the ruins of the Federation
0:55 a bit too late now after Discovery made a jump right inside the station
We never saw how Discovery actually showed up to the Federation, its entirely possible they showed up well outside of their sensor range and then warped in or just warped in without using the spore drive.
@@BigPaul00001 it doesn't really matter when the ship literally spore jumped within the station during episode 5.
But that doesn't necessarily mean that all the people present realize that Discovery is capable of long-range teleportation. For all they know it's just an alternate form of warp drive. Most of the 32nd century Starfleet people think it's an antique starship. That's why the assembled officers looked so shocked when told of it's true capabilities and why the admiral wants to keep that information restricted.
@@daniels7907 Don't think people are that dumb
@@Apollo-tj1vm - Well, apparently nobody ever worked out the bugs in the Genesis Device over the course of 900 or so years...
Also keep in mind that the Starfleet ships present were effectively in port. So they would not have had their sensors running. All anybody saw was a weird visual effect and Discovery had jumped away. It's a pretty big leap from that to the assumption that it has instantaneous teleportation with unlimited range. Especially when the starship doing it is, from your perspective, the equivalent of a Viking longboat.
Assuming that the spore drive can be replicated onto other Federation ships, I can see Discovery becoming the template that helps restore the Federation and Starfleet. If nothing else, Discovery could assist in bringing the subspace relays back online.
Now that they have joined with the future Federation, everything can happen, yet still there are questions as to whether or not they can be trusted?
That Discovery was abandoned as of "Calypso." Anything can still happen, despite being in familiar company!
Or it can go back in time & left in the cloud for the crew to find in the future (now) again
My guess is still, someone (i think Georgiou for her section 31 series) will take Discovery for whatever reason back in the past and then hide it in the nebula as seen in calypso, so that the crew will get it back. Its also my guess that Discovery is somehow responsible for the burn and maybe thats why calypso will happen, to correct this. In the Last Episode of season 2, didnt this princess girl somehow worked with dilithium to fuel the timecrystal for Burnhams suit? 🤔 Have to re watch it.
@@HansWurst-vr3pr oh CRAP I had forgotten about that!!!! Hmmm either Discovery.... or Michael’s mom....
My theory: The burn happened due to a Terran brought by Burnham stayed more than a certain period when she should not have. If so the Discovery must either waste Phillipa or travel back in time to drop her off to her own universe.
@@rothsshvili5125 or the burn happened here because the Terrans destroyed their entire universe... and the song people hear is simply the “ethereal resonance” of that universe’s cosmic strings 🤔
Felt.. felt like Star Trek.. sniff...
Just watched Oded in an old episode of Medium..He was playing doctor that was taking the lives of critically ill patients...On the radio in one scene they were talking about the president sending more troops into Afganistan...Fast forward to 2021....
After hating on STD for two seasons, this year has really made me reconsider my view of the show. With a few judicious edits and some creative reimagination, Discovery could have began with a three episode mini series concluding with the ship pushed into the far future just before the ending credits.
I really appreciated "Die Trying." It was easily my favorite episode of the series. The CinC of Starfleet is as close to realistic as I could ever hope for. The featured scene from Episode 6 is a very logical follow up, and I *loved* how serious the Admiral is taking blessing that is the 1,000 year old ship in his fleet.
Damn. FINALLY, Discovery has hit its stride.
Nice to hear I am not alone with this opinion.
The first season was a disaster, just characters with bad attitude fighting in a very non Star Trek way.
Second season was not good either, but some episodes peaked my interest with this Sphere data, red angel and such. At least we had some kind of mystery,
This season really gives me hope again. Finally some real science fiction, especially this last episode. Also, the Star Trek spirit of hope is really there again.
@@TheIllerX Agreed. While not perfect, this is probably going to be as good as it gets for NuTrek. If they ever launch Strange New Worlds, I pray that they learned all of the right lessons from this season, and actually give us something more traditional. I am good with Pike & Co., but I would be even better with that cast and production values if the writing staff were expanded to include real sci-fi authors who know their stuff and the spirit of Star Trek.
That could be said for almost any version of Trek./ the first couple of seasons are warm ups. I could barely stand the first two seasons of TNG.
Sounds like Discovery is getting some of the upgrades it badly needs.
The whole fleet needs the upgrades Discovery has.
Apparently, from the photos released yesterday, she is, at least on the Ops and Nav and science stations.
What I’m really curious about is episode 7, Unification III. Wonder what that will be about.
Mikey Spock
Well, since Unification I & II (TNG) were about competing attempts by Spock and Sela to reunify the Vulcans and Romulans either peacefully or through conquest, maybe III is third time's the charm?
@@daniels7907 Yeah I'm sure Burnham could do it.
@@daniels7907 That's an interesting take. I never picked up the fact that Sela and Spock had the same end goal all along, but of course you're right.
Is the fact that Lenard Nimoy's voice was heard in the original Admiral Tal's message stating
"The Federation Lives On"
I LIKE THIS ADIRMAL...
He's probably going to be evil. Or schooled by Burnham somehow
@@Knightfall182 It never fails
@@Excalibur01 But because he's not White, I suspect he'll survive and simply learn a lesson... unlike Lorca and Leeland..who were murdered brutally by Michelle Yeoh.
@@Knightfall182 But he's still a man whom the writers need Burnham to prove she's always right
@@Excalibur01 LOL like the White Trill guy last week... who begged for Burnham's permission before taking action.
I feel ike i can trust this admiral
starting to see pattern in the ranks
Discovery is getting better every season
They are so underestimating the value of the Spore Drive. With the ability to go anywhere instantly Discovery can do the boring mundane work of six other ships. Freeing up those ships for more dangerous and combat orientated missions. A handful of spore drive ships could double the effective capability of Starfleet.
or also the fact that there is only 1 spore drive makes it such that you only it in the most crucial moments. the moment others realize of tis existance makes it a all out fight for it by other factions.
The problem would be the need to genetically engineer someone to actually use the spore drive.
Looking good! Can't wait! Discovery is hitting it out of the park!
You know what. Now im interested. I have no problem starting from Season 3 and pretending like seasons 1 and 2 don't exist.
I love the 32nd century uniforms, badges and rank insignia.
All right, I want many new technologies with the discovery retrofit. Quantum torpedoes, advanced hull plating, maybe Cloaking device(don't tell me the Treaty of Algeron is still valid). Brand new warp core and so on...
Imagine discovery going back to it's time with 32 century technology and a detached cells imagine the reaction to the federation or starfleet or any race in the galaxy.
@@allistancooper1502 That would be a nice twist. A new timeline, a timeline in which the federation is extremely overpowered. They don't need to go back to have that advantage, just fitting a working spore drive on every federation ship, would do the trick. Till the other races somehow can grab that tech.
@@kasmopaya2676 that will do asswell and I think the federation, starfleet, vulcan, andorians and Earth are one of the most advanced organizations and civilizations in the galaxy the reason I think that is because of the amount of advanced ancient races they have fought and have gotten technological knowledge from or are allies with and you remember humans tend to advanced very fast to the point that after 300 years after having spaceflight they were one of the most advanced races in starfleet rivaling vulcans and andorians who were space cable for two thousand years so 1000 years is a long time for new technology to appear leaving alout of races in the dust and I am sure they is plenty of new younger space cable races out in the galaxy that doesn't have the level technology the federation or starfleet have so I won't be surprised if the are more advanced than most races in the galaxy and are rivals with more ancient races even surpassing some.
So them getting spore drive technological will make them unimaginable more powerful.
@@allistancooper1502 I wonder what happened to those dinosaurs (the voth), that were so advanced they disabled voyagers systems by hacking in seconds and teleported it inside the city ship? By now they would be way ahead of Starfleet. Probably intergalactic travel.
@@infinitemaximum don't the voth advanced slowly? It pretty sure I was mentioned they do I mean don't get me wrong they very advanced after millions of years of spaceflight they would of have time to advanced to that point but I don't think they advanced much in 1000 thousand years.
I hope they address the fact that Discovery's technology is 900 years out of date and it does get a retrofit like it hinted at in episode 5
@MrHoppers002 i guess with the already shown technology (programmable matter etc.) it will be no problem to refit / upgrade the discovery. Maybe even build a new ship... but that wouldn´t make too much sense, because the Discovery is already modified to support the spore drive and wasting resources wouldn´t be smart if star fleet is in "triage mode" anyways.
0:46 : Thank for explanation admiral, it's not like a 480m+ discovery ship spore jump in and out in front of starfleet HQ filled with ships and stations full of windows 3 weeks ago
I wonder when starfleet will demand they turn over all of their excess dilithium
That might actually be a good thing. As Burnham already realized when Book saw their stash, it makes Discovery a target.
Wouldnt they just want to replicate the spore engine abd that would solve all their problems
@@NitpickingNerd Some time in the future, Stamets is not needed any more for the spore drive to work. He and Tilly are working on a solution for this, right now. Would be beyond awesome if other star fleet ships would also get this spore drive. With this, they can start putting the federation back together and go finally home to earth again. This show has now some major potential and opportunities to shine really bright. They need to work on the battles!! Way to Star Wars like still. And the female Jedi(Michael) is also not in the best interest of Star Trek.
@@kasmopaya2676 the problem with this is that any new star trek shows set in the future would be too overpowered , with instant teleportation to anywhere in the universe no one would need starships anymore . it will be like stargate instead
@@NitpickingNerd Well the spore drive is still experimental and for the moment is designed to work on star ships. We'd also assume that if the spore drive becomes the new way to travel, that the tech will eventually leak to Federation rivals. No matter that travel is instantaneous, there are still problems to deal with.
I would have though that Discovery would have been given the tasks to reconnect the larger independent parts of the Federation, somewhat like what happened in Kevin Kostner's "The Postman".
Could probably rebuild the long range subspace network in days across the whole galaxy with Discovery's capabilities. Manufacturer the relays at headquarters and then plop them across the federation quadrants.
Wow!!! now I have a reason to watch Discovery it really is 2020 😳😳😳
This admiral is super cold......personality is just ice-cold, he won't hear of it....
Well as someone who has been on damage control mode for the years, I think it kind of pushed his to a point where emotion is a luxury.
@@Apollo-tj1vm Basically most I.T. departments
@@EirikrTinkerTries ehhhh.... we aren't that cold... just misunderstood..
Seems more organised, logical and structured than cold.
Seems like a good leader to me
Given all that Starfleet has been through, he needs to maintain command morale by keeping it together. He's still considerably more emotional than a Vulcan would be.
So if they are going to face these syndicates would it be fair to refit Discovery? Them responding is them dying in 10 seconds by quantum torpedoes, also none of the captains are happy with discovery being the new kid around the block
They said at the beginning of the scene that Discovery was finishing a refit
@@stars9084 yeah i kinda missed that part wasn't paying attention I hope new shield generators new phasers (HOPE THOSE EMITTERS GO BEAAAAAMMM), maybe quantum torpedoes, new interface maybe
Don't forget people not every race will have equivalent technology to the federation,star fleet, vulcan or earth and with all the advanced races they have fought in the past and with the some of the advanced ancient races giving them knowledge of how to make they technology and being friends with the federation and some of the races now attaining space flight I think the federation and starfleet is probably the one of the most advanced organizations in the whole galaxy together with vulcan,andorians and Earth.
Remembers me the Star Wars briefing meetings...
Mmmmm...Oded Fehr!
That's who it is! I've been wracking my brain trying to figure out why he's so familiar.
i thought that was him it was the only reason why i clicked on it. i hate discovery but good lord that man can act
So I guess all the other methods of long range travel and power generation that were being developed in the 24th century all failed? No transwarp, no quantum slipstream, no coaxial warp, no displacement wave, no artificial wormhole, no dimensional shift, no soliton wave rider, no spatial trajectors, no graviton catapult, no long range subspace transporter, no one discovered the Vaadwaur's Underspace, no one was able to find another Iconian Gateway and reverse engineer its technology. No Krieger wave converter, no tetryon reactor, no subpace power generator, no thermionic generator, etc. Propulsion and power generation still rely on the same technology that's been around for 900 years.
In episode 1 Book's ship can do quantum slipstream, but it's still powered by dilithium because of its' energy density and relative stability (burn notwithstanding).
@@pxmonkeederp benamite not dilithium
the gorn destroyed their world trying to create a wormhole, this was said in the first episode of this season.
this is supposed to be like the dark ages of star trek, this is what remains of the federation, most worlds and ships blew up, dilithium is scarce and there are no alternative forms of energy. and since the burn people are probably too scared to create new technologies since they don't know what caused the dilithium to blow up.
of course they do have faster ships than the ones in ds9 and things like portable transporters, but they still need months to get to far away destinations, just like it took like 70 years for the voyager to return to earth, even with pushes from gods and psionic superbeings along the way.
I beleive the idea is probably that all of those work and are viable, but none could match the scale of just using dilithium so they never got standardized.
Its like, the spore drive existed in the 23rd century but there was no viable way to power it and so it never left experimental stage. But that doesnt mean it didnt still existed and worked
Yea the writing here is atrocious, but, hey, at least the writing's quality is consistent with the 1st two seasons of Discovery. Most consistent thing on the show.
I can not wait...
Daaaaamn! Can’t wait!
Bandra, the badass female captain is my Aunt :)
Excited
With technologies like programmable matter and rooms that basically reconfigure themselves as needed, one would think that adapting spore drive technology onto the entire fleet would be child's play save for the navigation issue.
They may need to work on relations with the inhabitants of the mycelial network before they start sending starships through it in large numbers. But isn't that what Star Trek has always been about?
Guessing the navigation issue will be for now the reason only Discovery has it.
@MrHoppers002 My comment was literally about adapting the Spore Drive to the existing (32nd century) fleet. You literally just agreed with me. LOL... That's why I said that at the moment, only the navigation issue is preventing this adoption to the other federation ships but it should be easily overcome with the joint effort of the Federation.
But since you brought the possibility of a refit for Discovery (which wasn't even the subject of the comment) I would argue that the availability of technologies like programmable matter makes it harder to tell whether or not a refit makes economical sense.
Think about 3D printing. Just a few decades ago rapid prototyping was very uneconomical. These days, almost anyone can churn out design iterations and revisions because of 3D printing (though still not as economical as mass production processes in some cases). Now scale that up to technology that basically builds itself. Even basic design work could be offloaded AI whilst being overseen by engineers.
The processes that build technologies also improve over time. Whether or not advancements in manufacturing technologies is linear or more exponential is for people far smarter than I am to speculate. But a will say this; a few decades ago, if you didn't have a wrench to loosen up an oil filter, you would've had to expend so much energy (in fuel, food, etc.) to drive to the hardware store and back for a tool that at best you are only going to need once a year. Even manufacturing this tool took significant energy. I could literally print the same tool in less than an hour today and recycle the plastic after if needed.
Also remember, we are just talking about a refit here. A boat from 50 years ago may not be as good as boats today but giving an old boat a modern offboard engine and quality of life improvements would really go a long way to at least help it keep up.
TLDR: The economies of scale that far into the future might be very different from how we evaluate them today. A minor 32nd-century upgrade is not out of the question.
This could be a test by the admiral to see if they have a mole from the emerald chain in the room.
So in some sectors the Andorians are allied with Orions pirates... but we can assume that in other sectors they are organized differently.
why hasnt Saru changed into the new uniform yet? Get rid of the Adidas sponsored blue jacket already
I like the Discovery uniforms.
Marketing I assume, but yes they need to change ASAP
@@Wrell404 Same here.
Yeah gold silver and bronze are NOT star trek colours
I’d love to see a Burnham in a new uniform it would suit the whole crew I’m actually excited to a discovery retrofit
The new uniforms look nice.
Serious Battlestar Galactica vibes now, jump, jump, jump. One day back to earth to reclaim their home. I quite like the idea. Federation with a galaxy wide edge. It Will be interesting how they use it, for good or for evil. With great power, comes great responsibility. Looks like, the writers are not that incompetent as I thought. (;
First time ever DIS got me interested. Didn't take as long as I thought it would. Normally, Trek shows need 4 seasons to get really good.
Whoa, look at that guy's head. ☺️
Sinister motives maybe from the admiral......
Now that they are in the future can they get the Refit the admiral was taking about in episode 5
@MrHoppers002 I wouldn't think its too difficult i mean especially how they say the ships are constructed and how some are organic and some a holographic frames. Then also we know how that as tech advances the equipment gets smaller in trek universe so the shields and weapons are a quick switch I would say along with a new warp core as the core is easily removable. So for the refit it could be very fast considering the advancement in dry docks and equipment used. But I would love them to change the necelles to be smaller and change the blue colour to red at the intake and the bright blue from the future trek ships. If I switched out parts I would beam them out and have organic connectivity systems to intergrate through the ship kinda like the Borg infecting a ship.
I can't believe it, this show is finally getting f***g good!
I’ve notice there are no Vulcans that have shown up on screen. I wonder if they are doing ok.
Perhaps the Vulcans have their High Command reassembled and left the Federation just like Earth did.
good question
Unification III 3x07
@MrHoppers002 maybe he did. There's been zero mention to say otherwise.
Use spore drive and get some dilitium in other galaxies.
I haven't been watching this show, but the recent clips are intriguing. (I'm not a "New Trek" hater or anything, I just don't pay for streaming services to watch a single show.)
This show seems to have grown on some of those who dismissed it early on. I'll take that under advisement.
Discoveries just become the Errand boy.
So is the Discovery crew going to get the updated uniforms?
Has there been anything with klingons in season 3 yet?
I love the new uniforms so much! I hope Star Trek Online will get them!
I wonder if the Discovery crew will all get new uniforms.
Yes, nobody talk about Discovery just vanishing out of spacedock last episode, or maybe none of the other ships noticed.
could have just said experimental drive and left it at that - why say instantaneous anywhere in the galaxy...
Because Starfleet Captains are notorious for digging if you try to play them off with vague info. You also short circuit the notorious gossip network captains have--if he hadn't been clear the rumor would have started that Discovery had a working time drive or something. :p
Glad to see Saru wearing the new Combadge, but why he still wearing his 23rd century uniform. I thought by now he'd be wearing the standard 32nd century uniform.
They’re going through the uniform change
Im pretty sure the burn is actully a exploded omega molucule it can destory warp engines
exactly what I thought
Those uniforms are clean
"Emerald Chain" in this part of the Quadrant? Could there be "green blooded hob-goblins" running the show overall?
I'm thinking Romulans. They didn't use dilithium matter-antimatter reactors on their ships: they used artificial quantum singularities and harvested the energy put out by it via Hawking Radiation as a power source. They probably came out of the burn relatively unharmed.
Apostastrophe the thought that romulan culture wasn’t advance in that amount of time is absurd. They joined the federation and clearly from what we see influenced ship design
When will we see the future Klingon make up? And will there be an explanation of how they evolved from TOS,TNG, and STD?
Why are they not in grey and red? Insubordination or now the Discovery is a kind of Section 31?
The new uniforms are different.
"if things heat up" well I sure hope they upgraded Discovery's shields that it can take more than 1 hit.
The Structural integrity fields can make TOS ships just as tough as anything else.
I'm curious, which is the Captain of the Voyager-J?
Maybe Kim finally got promoted from ensign. Otherwise they’ll have a holographic ensign continuing his vigil at ops
@@goughrmp Or Problably the EMH (or ECH), jk btw xD
Janeway -J
@@GleydsonM Well, the EMH is probably still active, as it was shown in Voyager
@@ilyesistvan8331 that would be glorious....
This scene remind me of Star Trek into darkness when the starfleet staff met for briefing... seems similar
Well, it's a staff meeting.
@@Ostermond I get that just thought it was similar that’s all...just remind to that similar scene that’s all 😎
They should have led with this story line 3 years ago....
Is that really the guy from the Mummy? He looks so different here.
Shame that STD doesn't show a third Crossfield Class into the series like the Prototype unless it's in the fleet museum somewhere or the scrapyard.
0:00 Colonel Fedmahn Kassad!
Damned emerald privateers!
Lorca said be anywhere instantaneously and that's how you win the war. Discovery is gonna be on the Emerald Chain's backdoor and shatter them. That's the first thing I'd think if I was Saru or Burnham.
would have the element of surprise.. but... a 1000 year old starship rocking up would be like someone in a canoe with a spear appearing next to an Aircraft Carrier and throwing spears at it. Discovery needs a 31c retrofit
Why on earth would you do this, now I have to wait till Thursday for the next scene😤
Somehow, the 32nd century Starfleet uniforms remind me of WW1 German military uniforms. Don't know if it is intentional or not. If it is, I get the feeling the 'Emerald Chain' might be set up as an allied force.
Maybe the Discovery and it's crew are on the wrong side of a conflict that's been going on for a couple of centuries and the Burn was an intentional means to an end, namely to stop Starfleet and the Federation from agressively expanding and loosening its grip on the quadrant?
I get the feeling they are changing the cast to the current Starfleet uniforms either because of budget or they are trying to be unique or they don't plan to have Discovery stay with this future Starfleet for long...which is a shame and a bit cliche
What do you mean? They seem to only be changing the badges, not the uniforms.
I also think they MAY slowly change the uniforms - but again remember the admiral is VERY sparing with Starfleet’s limited resources and maybe doesn’t wanna use the energy for more uniforms?
Not entirely sure. Maybe after the scene we saw, they will finally have new uniforms.
OR the nostalgia of the old ones brightens people’s day. Like hearing an old British grandma or Midwestern mom.
@@EirikrTinkerTries Discovery replicates their uniforms. that's how Ash Tyler got one, and Book. They could replicate uniforms for the whole crew in ten minutes. I guess the Disco crew just hasn't "earned their stripes" yet
@@AlIguana No, I bet the production wants them to keep their era uniforms that same reason why during Voyager, they kept their late TNG style uniforms even after seeing that Starfleet has moved onto the late DS9 and TNG movies uniforms. Probably budget reasons and to remake the ENTIRE cast with new outfits and the extras probably would be expensive, OR Discovery is not going to stay with this Starfleet for long and go on its own so they need to keep their uniforms for the sake of being unique and different
This show is still on? Wow. Good on them.
Yes good one them for making such a good Star Trek series! I guess you are not watching cause you hate on anything new? Or am I reaching... :-)
@@Moondog2010A
You are reaching.
The ratings suggest this show is not that good. The ratings are horrible.
The show is not even shared that much on torrent sites. Reruns are beating the show.
Trek fans are noticing the horrible cgi, reused stock cgi (no less), stock effects, stock pictures, too much hologram controls (it's a cheap effect), writing that hates on the old trek fans, and as an added bonus: Round house kicks for everyone!!
You get a roundhouse kick! And you!
Roundhouse kick to plots!
What a show. It actively hates on the core trek fans while new fans are horrible to converse with. Almost like they are paid to cause division or something. They are the most illogical and seem to love the gore and violence over good plots and characters.
Considering by this time instantenous time travel is commonplace, why exactly are they bothering with starships in the first place
Instantaneous travel ISN'T commonplace. Only Discovery has the drive and for all other ships, warp is pretty much a not possible or extremely limited.
How many episodes untill they figure out it was discovery traveling through time that caused the burn??
I mean in the 30th century there are temporal sensors. So if discovery did cause an aberration it should have been picked up. However I guess the future is harder to scan than the past since it is in flux...
If this were reality, both Stamets and Discovery would have been dissected for research as soon as it was made aware what they possessed.
I found it interesting that there was no ship called Enterprise in this future. Wouldn't you think that they would have still mantained that tradition. of having an ship called Enterprise. still being the flag ship of the Federation.
Maybe destroyed in the Burn? I doubt they're building new starships now.
May have run out of latters by them. Lol
I'm not very familiar with the Star Trek lore, but is there are reason why Star Fleet scientist can't reverse engineer the spore drive?
So the sporedrive becomes an alternative way to travel faster than light.
@MrHoppers002 Amazing explanation. One thing I remember was that Spock wanted to scrap the sporedrive due to uncertain ethical issue along with red angel and sphere data.