This comment section made me loose faith in humanity. Good video, by the way. I always struggled to identify myself as atheist or agnostic, but I am confident that I am a secularist
وَأَنِيبُوا إِلَى رَبِّكُمْ وَأَسْلِمُوا لَهُ مِن قَبْلِ أَن يَأْتِيَكُمُ الْعَذَابُ ثُمَّ لَا تُنصَرُونَ "Turn ye to our Lord (in repentance) and bow to His (Will), before the Penalty comes on you: after that ye shall not be helped وَاتَّبِعُوا أَحْسَنَ مَا أُنزِلَ إِلَيْكُم مِّن رَّبِّكُم مِّن قَبْلِ أَن يَأْتِيَكُمُ العَذَابُ بَغْتَةً وَأَنتُمْ لَا تَشْعُرُونَ "And follow the best of (the courses) revealed to you from your Lord, before the Penalty comes on you - of a sudden while ye perceive not أَن تَقُولَ نَفْسٌ يَا حَسْرَتَى علَى مَا فَرَّطتُ فِي جَنبِ اللَّهِ وَإِن كُنتُ لَمِنَ السَّاخِرِينَ "Lest the soul should (then) say: 'Ah! Woe is me!- In that I neglected (my duty) towards Allah, and was but among those who mocked أَوْ تَقُولَ لَوْ أَنَّ اللَّهَ هَدَانِي لَكُنتُ مِنَ الْمُتَّقِينَ "Or (lest) it should say: 'If only Allah had guided me, I should certainly have been among the righteous Quran .islam----
A non religious theist is someone who believes in a god, but has no religious affiliation. Religion has a number of definitions, but usually there is involved in it, a set of beliefs, principals, and world views. A person can still believe in a god without subscribing to any of these.
@@thelastontarian7263 maybe an agnostic theist? Or a pragmatist? One who doesn't actually believe his faith, but sees the value and utility of following it anyways.
Define "all of these" Because depending on what they follow there are certain things they would be going against. For example the bible and some other religious texts will ask that their followers to tell about or share their religion because if you have faith or belief and world views i what you are in you share them. Secularist share theirs more then anyone non religious views and ways of life are ok but religious are not what keeps others from forcing their views on others as well?
Secularism is meant for the freedom of practicing own religion and belief. It also protects the atheist belief due to seperation of state from any religion. But these days, its a means to segregate and impose harsh treatments on the minority religion, while giving protectionism and special treatment to the majority religion.
It is reverse in India minorities are treated as VIPs and Majority are common people anyone can say whatever to majority it doesn't matter but if you say to minority then you will be called as pseudo secular kaafir etc.
As a middle eastern I just wanted to say that claiming to be a humanitarian without promoting secularism is something I'd never ever understand, but also claiming to be a humanitarian on the basis of just supporting a secular regime is really hilarious. It is the same whether human rights are being violated by a theocracy or by a faciest dictatorship that promote some elements of secularism. Before embracing or opposing the ideology of any political entity, the entity should at first pass the whole "human rights threshold" without allowing it to make any exception to drop any of them.
There is no secular basis for humanitarianism. Secular liberalism actually justifies every bit of atrocity that has been committed there. These secularists have only recently adopted the religious values of altruism and empathy.
وَأَنِيبُوا إِلَى رَبِّكُمْ وَأَسْلِمُوا لَهُ مِن قَبْلِ أَن يَأْتِيَكُمُ الْعَذَابُ ثُمَّ لَا تُنصَرُونَ "Turn ye to our Lord (in repentance) and bow to His (Will), before the Penalty comes on you: after that ye shall not be helped وَاتَّبِعُوا أَحْسَنَ مَا أُنزِلَ إِلَيْكُم مِّن رَّبِّكُم مِّن قَبْلِ أَن يَأْتِيَكُمُ العَذَابُ بَغْتَةً وَأَنتُمْ لَا تَشْعُرُونَ "And follow the best of (the courses) revealed to you from your Lord, before the Penalty comes on you - of a sudden while ye perceive not أَن تَقُولَ نَفْسٌ يَا حَسْرَتَى علَى مَا فَرَّطتُ فِي جَنبِ اللَّهِ وَإِن كُنتُ لَمِنَ السَّاخِرِينَ "Lest the soul should (then) say: 'Ah! Woe is me!- In that I neglected (my duty) towards Allah, and was but among those who mocked أَوْ تَقُولَ لَوْ أَنَّ اللَّهَ هَدَانِي لَكُنتُ مِنَ الْمُتَّقِينَ "Or (lest) it should say: 'If only Allah had guided me, I should certainly have been among the righteous Quran .islam===---
This comment section perfectly illustrates the idea of secularism. You have comments from different faiths given equal representation. Under a theocracy, you'll have one side silencing and de-plaforming the other.
Secularism is not a belief system or a method of promoting a particular moral philosophy. Don't confuse it with liberalism. Instead, its a way of conducting the business of government-it's aim is to preserve individual freedom to believe and practice their religion in their private lives. It does this by banning the creation of laws that are explicitly religious. How would you like it if you lived in a society that forced you to pray five times a day? Or pay money to the Catholic church? Or practice polygamy (ok, don't answer that one). You see, there are no limits to the kinds of infringements on our liberty that religions can dream up. So the only solution is to adopt a set of general values that nearly everyone can agree upon-values that are critical to a healthy society-like freedom of speech, freedom of assembly, freedom of religious belief/worship, equality under the law, etc. Then, with these unalienable rights established for all (in no way do these rights constitute a religion), we can go ahead and live in accordance with our religious or non religious values, and we can participate in making our country a better place by helping to shape laws that address REAL problems-problems of security, health, prosperity, etc, not problems of pure religiously defined morality. There are too many religions with too many competing moral codes to allow one religion power over all of us. This is the purpose of secularism. Don't attack something that's working for you.
You are conflating secular with secularism. Yes, the secular wants freedom of religion and for religion... secularism wants the privatisation of ALL Religion making secularism the de facto zeitgeist of society. This privatisation means that religious practice and rhetoric can only be done behind closed doors in specific locations, anything outside of it is illegal which clearly goes against freedom of assembly and equality under the law. Look at the case of China for example and North Korea... do you disagree these are examples of secularism?
Secularism as practiced in the U.S. and other western countries, provides for both the separation of church and state as well as the freedom of religion. @@tasinal-hassan8268
Truth is found by the fluctuations of attitudes and laws. Only when you have divided out reality from fiction, and understand its implications do you have the ultimate choice: to leave behind the threads that puppeteer you, or remain bound by those that control you. Truth is the experience of differences. To be open minded is the key to the door, and the room is enlightenment.
وَأَنِيبُوا إِلَى رَبِّكُمْ وَأَسْلِمُوا لَهُ مِن قَبْلِ أَن يَأْتِيَكُمُ الْعَذَابُ ثُمَّ لَا تُنصَرُونَ "Turn ye to our Lord (in repentance) and bow to His (Will), before the Penalty comes on you: after that ye shall not be helped وَاتَّبِعُوا أَحْسَنَ مَا أُنزِلَ إِلَيْكُم مِّن رَّبِّكُم مِّن قَبْلِ أَن يَأْتِيَكُمُ العَذَابُ بَغْتَةً وَأَنتُمْ لَا تَشْعُرُونَ "And follow the best of (the courses) revealed to you from your Lord, before the Penalty comes on you - of a sudden while ye perceive not أَن تَقُولَ نَفْسٌ يَا حَسْرَتَى علَى مَا فَرَّطتُ فِي جَنبِ اللَّهِ وَإِن كُنتُ لَمِنَ السَّاخِرِينَ "Lest the soul should (then) say: 'Ah! Woe is me!- In that I neglected (my duty) towards Allah, and was but among those who mocked أَوْ تَقُولَ لَوْ أَنَّ اللَّهَ هَدَانِي لَكُنتُ مِنَ الْمُتَّقِينَ "Or (lest) it should say: 'If only Allah had guided me, I should certainly have been among the righteous Quran .islam----
Jesus describes a world where we will have a choice as to whom we shall serve, but surrounded by both the faithful and the faithless. The Parable of the Weeds (Matthew 13.24-30)
Stop worshiping the ded due, your Jeeebus don't even had a historical evidence of existence, it was a lie made up by the aristocrats, church to control masses like you
I just wanna make another point is that secularism is not synonymous with humanism, because it only deals with "not being affiliated with any particular religion". It doesn't deal with the metaphysics of the existence of god(s), nor does it imply some ethical framework, either. A secular person can also be a "theist". So, therefore, secularism is just an inclusive term for anybody who isn't religious. Humanism, on the other hand, is just a non-theistic philosophy that emphasizes on promoting the good of humanity. That's it. A non-religious person doesn't need to subscribe to humanism in order to be "irreligious", because there are plenty of irreligious people who are capable of being moral without being grounded on some philosophy. 🙂
Secularism is a complete freedom of religious faith . one can come and go at his or her will . without holding hate on other faiths and also be respectful to all religion . different religions and have different customs , diets , system and belief . showing respect to all of the above . just like let the jew can wear kippah , muslims can wear turban or skullcap , sikhs can wear their turban, christians can wear cross and hindus can wear tilaka whatever it is at anywhere in this world.
We only need to accept that freedom is one of human faculty which one does not get because you stand and defend it as a secularist or whoever. Epistemological Relativism has been sawn in our society. Now I only feel contradictions only. To say that secularism does not deny people's religion is also another shallow argument which knocks it self down. If as a secularist I defend freedom but in defending it I weigh heavily on people's minds that it is the only best theory,what does it mean? As mentioned , ".. it does not justify one to teach religion in the skls". One who teaches it is seen as an "imposter" and the one who claims to know what is better for me is he not restricting my freedom. Secularism has its remarkable values and perhaps even the other. With the freedom of choice and of consciousness( moral freedom), let someone embraces his values
True secularism means separating morality from state. And, if this really happened, no law can be justified. Therefore, no secular state and no secular government can have any authority on people.
وَأَنِيبُوا إِلَى رَبِّكُمْ وَأَسْلِمُوا لَهُ مِن قَبْلِ أَن يَأْتِيَكُمُ الْعَذَابُ ثُمَّ لَا تُنصَرُونَ "Turn ye to our Lord (in repentance) and bow to His (Will), before the Penalty comes on you: after that ye shall not be helped وَاتَّبِعُوا أَحْسَنَ مَا أُنزِلَ إِلَيْكُم مِّن رَّبِّكُم مِّن قَبْلِ أَن يَأْتِيَكُمُ العَذَابُ بَغْتَةً وَأَنتُمْ لَا تَشْعُرُونَ "And follow the best of (the courses) revealed to you from your Lord, before the Penalty comes on you - of a sudden while ye perceive not أَن تَقُولَ نَفْسٌ يَا حَسْرَتَى علَى مَا فَرَّطتُ فِي جَنبِ اللَّهِ وَإِن كُنتُ لَمِنَ السَّاخِرِينَ "Lest the soul should (then) say: 'Ah! Woe is me!- In that I neglected (my duty) towards Allah, and was but among those who mocked أَوْ تَقُولَ لَوْ أَنَّ اللَّهَ هَدَانِي لَكُنتُ مِنَ الْمُتَّقِينَ "Or (lest) it should say: 'If only Allah had guided me, I should certainly have been among the righteous Quran .islam----
Freedom from religion for the children, freedom of religion for the adults To me, secularism or somthing akin to it, can only happen when a country does two things concurrently - 1. make it illegal for children at attend religious establishments and practice religion (up to age of 16) 2. A compulsory education emcompassing philosophy as well as covering all religions and ideologies in an objective intellectual manner. The first rule allows space for minds to develop and grow independent of religion. As almost all religious people are born into it, it seems logical that establishing a buffer between the person and the religion would alter the landscape considerably. Even if driving the religions underground, it would become less attractive to those migrating with strong religious tendancies. In Tureky Atatturk did it with adults, and that was a mitake I think. The second point is essential for the frst one to have any meaning. Create the space, offer a breadth of information, and allow humans to choose. There woud be great pushback. The religious, especially those with expansionist ideas, know that indoctrination of the young is their bread and butter. To me, it is nothing short of child abuse.
After watching this video, I've come to realize that secularism is the largest double standard there is. This video states that no belief will be specially protected, but how can you have freedom of religion if secularism is the law of the land? Wouldn't that just protect secularism and ostracize religion? This is a fascist idea that sets the groundwork for a social structure similar to communism. After watching this I am convinced that "Secularism" is the 21st century word used to describe communist fascism because it's main goal is to remove religious discussion from the public square shutting down all healthy debate and discussion, which in essence oppresses those who are religious.
Secularism does not aim to oppress any religion. It's primary aim is to disregard religion as a factor in the law or government of the state. This can be considered as a personal factor similar to that of skin colour or sexuality. Imagine if there were laws that protected white British people, but not African-Caribbean people, and imagine the government intentionally focused all their attention on straight people. It would be incredibly dysfunctional as a social structure. However, if the government disregards sexuality or skin colour as a factor at all, i.e. making laws that affect all human beings, then we have a functional social structure. Exactly the same principle applies with secularism.
Jess Crago How is that possible when our own declaration of independence recognizes the existence of a creator as the source of all our inalienable rights?
pure retardation, it allows full debates and discussion just prevents one faith from gaining power over legislations in a country, and that is GOOD, basically it's like saying we allow Christians and Muslims to practice their faith so long as it doesn't affect others, just imagine stupid Christians had legislative powers and imposed the plucking out of eyes like mentioned in the Bible or Muslims killing apostates, secularism is the almighty beast of systems to impose in a country!!
Secularism is the ideology. Secularized= A once religious theocracy is turning thru new laws , regulations or politics into a SECULAR state. An Islamic theocracy would have to give Jews,Christians,Atheists the same rights to be considered "secularized" .
Jay shri Raam 🙏🚩 This Sickularism or Muhammadan-Christian appeasement politics (In Indian context) will bent on knees in front of Dharma (Righteousness)
I think therefore i exist, therefore i was created or always existed and the creator was created or always existed, therefore God exists. I challenged humanity to debate with me the existence of God.
It’s a cool way to combat dogmas and biases without or with religion. But this still ignores biases that are viewed on other visible identities, like race, ability, gender and sexual orientation. This doesn’t eliminate that people will live within privilege and also create biases against other identities including those who are intersectional in this context receive and project their own. So how can we also get to that? I also question why it takes for us to do this rather than nurture a better rational process so you can come to with an individualistic conclusion with skepticism and logic and emotion. let’s not pretend that every aspect of your being is what changes your beliefs not just the theism or atheism you choose to accept. If you can’t accept other people are different and similar to you in different ways then I don’t think cohesion will ever work with or without a secular society.
what is a religious atheist? how can you be one? do you have to not believe but also kind of like all the atrocities, mischievs and deceits religion has done in the name of smth you don't believe in?
This sounds nice until you realise that you can still be dominated by Feminists/Environmentalits/LGBT etc. Greta Thurnburg is essentailly a prophet but you can't criticise her because she has that 'science' on her side.
To believe in such a system, you have to have a belief system, therefore Secularism is a religion itself, and there are moral absolutes. A Secularist may say there are no moral absolutes, but then what's to stop people from killing whomever they want, and who's to say what's wrong with that, so at some point, Secularists will have to admit they have their own ethics. Belief in religion is what defines a nation's belief system. If we just throw out all the other religions we'll just end up religiously following another that has been birthed from the unbelief of the other religions.
No one's said that secularists don't have our own set of ethics, and no one has said that people can't have their faith, just that it can't interfere with the matters of the state. For example; you cannot criminalise abortion because your faith tells you it's wrong. And no, secularism isn't a religion. Political views and organised religion aren't the same thing.
Well, she clearly must have dropped you with that attitude and language, and clearly you don't have any solid opinions of your own that you've expressed, so you've successfully presented a logical fallacy known as ad hominem.
I am a person who advocates faith in society. though for the sake of debate. To say that Religion holds Absolute morals, would be wrong. The bible for instance, It holds many contradictions. Such as "an eye for an eye" In The OT. and 'Turn the other Cheek' In the New. a secularist ethical theory would provide absolute moral conditions called the Hypothetical imperatives. Though... I agree with what you are saying. To say politics is a faith is a little out there. But securalisim does impose on religion. And in terms of morality or laws. the more sources to moral decision making, the better.
no,secularism is not a religion its an opinion and a system. if secularism is a religion then so are the ideas of free education or free market this is the oxford definition of religion: The belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods. secularism does not follow this definition and neither does it fit the difinition from dictionary.com or any other acceptable definition of religion secularism does NOT mean that the state cannot impose laws regarding common sets of morals all it means is that religion cannot be given instutional power. and as we saw by the definition religion is not a simple matter of common ethics for example,i do support LGBT rights,but you can theoreticaly see gay relations as immoral with no connection to your religion,in that case you can still follow the secular rules what secularism does mean is that you cant attempt to make rules and such because gay relations are against CHRISTIANITY per say you can still have views,the matter is simply not imposing or infringing on lifestyles on the BASIS of religion or religious belief
Can I ask something? I always thought secularism was putting the needs of the state above morality. I always thought the definition you gave was just smoke and mirrors , because secularism makes a kind of bold claim is that its laws are better than that of gods, but if that is true then why aren’t people like George w. Bush in jail?
First you need to provide EVIDENCE that your God is the correct God...4000 other religions make the same lousy claim. And it doesn't put the needs of the STATE but the needs of the PEOPLE above one Religious Cult. Secularism makes no claims - it is simply a system where politics are separated from Religion so that all different kinds of belief systems can practice religion without the fear of the government commuting crimes against them in the name of ( examples ) Allah or Jesus. The problem is you misunderstanding secularism. Secularism and Atheism aren't the same thing. I assume your a follower of Islam....because only Islamic apologists spread false lies about secularism acting like a SECULAR state is some kind off Atheist political system or ideology.
Secularism proves to make society horrible as is apparent in America, depression is on a rising, obesity and disease are rising, Masculinity is in a decline and you people cant figure out how many genders there are, how could people in a secular society effectively run a society when everyone has their own opinion and no higher power, even if you came to an understanding somehow, then how do u even know its correct, racism and slavery was just abolished 50 years ago and Islam already taught race to be equal and slavery outlawed 1400 years ago, do ur history on Islam and how the Prophet SAW lived, their society is the peak of society and nothing would match. @@Raydensheraj
What is a non-religious theist? Religion is defined as "belief in, worship of, or obedience to a supernatural power or powers considered to be divine or to have control of human destiny". Isn't theism a belief in a diety, and thus a belief in a divine supernatural power (religion)?
That's the wrong definition, dude. Here's an actual definition: religion is a social institution that involves a unified system of beliefs, and practices that recognize the sacred. So, therefore, not all religions are even theistic. There are "non-theistic religions" that do exist.
Secularism simply means no religion in the public sphere, ie, no religion in politics, government offices, education, worksplace, etc. You do not have the right to practise or exhibit your religion as public officials. No conspicuous religious symbols. Therefore no turbans, no hijabs, no burkas, no giant crosses on police officers, teachers, government officials, etc. You are free to practise your religion in private. Practically every first world country is secular, eg, Canada, USA, Europe, Australia, Japan, etc.
وَأَنِيبُوا إِلَى رَبِّكُمْ وَأَسْلِمُوا لَهُ مِن قَبْلِ أَن يَأْتِيَكُمُ الْعَذَابُ ثُمَّ لَا تُنصَرُونَ "Turn ye to our Lord (in repentance) and bow to His (Will), before the Penalty comes on you: after that ye shall not be helped وَاتَّبِعُوا أَحْسَنَ مَا أُنزِلَ إِلَيْكُم مِّن رَّبِّكُم مِّن قَبْلِ أَن يَأْتِيَكُمُ العَذَابُ بَغْتَةً وَأَنتُمْ لَا تَشْعُرُونَ "And follow the best of (the courses) revealed to you from your Lord, before the Penalty comes on you - of a sudden while ye perceive not أَن تَقُولَ نَفْسٌ يَا حَسْرَتَى علَى مَا فَرَّطتُ فِي جَنبِ اللَّهِ وَإِن كُنتُ لَمِنَ السَّاخِرِينَ "Lest the soul should (then) say: 'Ah! Woe is me!- In that I neglected (my duty) towards Allah, and was but among those who mocked أَوْ تَقُولَ لَوْ أَنَّ اللَّهَ هَدَانِي لَكُنتُ مِنَ الْمُتَّقِينَ "Or (lest) it should say: 'If only Allah had guided me, I should certainly have been among the righteous Quran .islam----
If public officials do not have the right to practice their religion, then you're taking the freedom of religion from them. Therefore, that's not secularism.
why not a muslim can wear hijab or Skullcap , Jew can wear kippah , and christains can wear a cross by minding their own business along with respecting other religions ?? that is what the real Secularism .
وَأَنِيبُوا إِلَى رَبِّكُمْ وَأَسْلِمُوا لَهُ مِن قَبْلِ أَن يَأْتِيَكُمُ الْعَذَابُ ثُمَّ لَا تُنصَرُونَ "Turn ye to our Lord (in repentance) and bow to His (Will), before the Penalty comes on you: after that ye shall not be helped وَاتَّبِعُوا أَحْسَنَ مَا أُنزِلَ إِلَيْكُم مِّن رَّبِّكُم مِّن قَبْلِ أَن يَأْتِيَكُمُ العَذَابُ بَغْتَةً وَأَنتُمْ لَا تَشْعُرُونَ "And follow the best of (the courses) revealed to you from your Lord, before the Penalty comes on you - of a sudden while ye perceive not أَن تَقُولَ نَفْسٌ يَا حَسْرَتَى علَى مَا فَرَّطتُ فِي جَنبِ اللَّهِ وَإِن كُنتُ لَمِنَ السَّاخِرِينَ "Lest the soul should (then) say: 'Ah! Woe is me!- In that I neglected (my duty) towards Allah, and was but among those who mocked أَوْ تَقُولَ لَوْ أَنَّ اللَّهَ هَدَانِي لَكُنتُ مِنَ الْمُتَّقِينَ "Or (lest) it should say: 'If only Allah had guided me, I should certainly have been among the righteous Quran .islam----
@@orlansmith6230 Yeah my dude, you don't have any idea what are you talking about 🔹Qu'ran 47:4 “So when you meet those who disbelieve, strike [their] necks until, when you have inflicted slaughter upon them, then secure their bonds, and either [confer] favor afterwards or ransom [them] until the war lays down its burdens. That [is the command]. And if Allah had willed, He could have taken vengeance upon them [Himself], but [He ordered armed struggle] to test some of you by means of others. And those who are killed in the cause of Allah - never will He waste their deeds.”
France is as secular as a former Christian theocratic country can get. However,they still do retain their Judeo-Christian principles of law and order. No society,no matter how secular,can survive without assuming some level of religious philosophy.
@@tasinal-hassan8268 Which isn't true...China is surviving, right? And most democratic principles were established by the Greek philosophers and not the Abrahamic religions.
@@Raydensheraj China uses Confuciusiasm and Taoism as its national conscious. It's secular, but the values themselves are collectively based on religious philosophies of the past.
وَأَنِيبُوا إِلَى رَبِّكُمْ وَأَسْلِمُوا لَهُ مِن قَبْلِ أَن يَأْتِيَكُمُ الْعَذَابُ ثُمَّ لَا تُنصَرُونَ "Turn ye to our Lord (in repentance) and bow to His (Will), before the Penalty comes on you: after that ye shall not be helped وَاتَّبِعُوا أَحْسَنَ مَا أُنزِلَ إِلَيْكُم مِّن رَّبِّكُم مِّن قَبْلِ أَن يَأْتِيَكُمُ العَذَابُ بَغْتَةً وَأَنتُمْ لَا تَشْعُرُونَ "And follow the best of (the courses) revealed to you from your Lord, before the Penalty comes on you - of a sudden while ye perceive not أَن تَقُولَ نَفْسٌ يَا حَسْرَتَى علَى مَا فَرَّطتُ فِي جَنبِ اللَّهِ وَإِن كُنتُ لَمِنَ السَّاخِرِينَ "Lest the soul should (then) say: 'Ah! Woe is me!- In that I neglected (my duty) towards Allah, and was but among those who mocked أَوْ تَقُولَ لَوْ أَنَّ اللَّهَ هَدَانِي لَكُنتُ مِنَ الْمُتَّقِينَ "Or (lest) it should say: 'If only Allah had guided me, I should certainly have been among the righteous Quran .islam----
Jay shri Raam 🙏🚩 This Sickularism or Muhammadan-Christian appeasement politics (In Indian context) will bent on knees in front of Dharma (Righteousness)
Thumbs down for not only not giving credit to QualiaSoup, but for removing his username from the video altogether. Bad form, SecularismOrgUK, bad form. >:-(
وَأَنِيبُوا إِلَى رَبِّكُمْ وَأَسْلِمُوا لَهُ مِن قَبْلِ أَن يَأْتِيَكُمُ الْعَذَابُ ثُمَّ لَا تُنصَرُونَ "Turn ye to our Lord (in repentance) and bow to His (Will), before the Penalty comes on you: after that ye shall not be helped وَاتَّبِعُوا أَحْسَنَ مَا أُنزِلَ إِلَيْكُم مِّن رَّبِّكُم مِّن قَبْلِ أَن يَأْتِيَكُمُ العَذَابُ بَغْتَةً وَأَنتُمْ لَا تَشْعُرُونَ "And follow the best of (the courses) revealed to you from your Lord, before the Penalty comes on you - of a sudden while ye perceive not أَن تَقُولَ نَفْسٌ يَا حَسْرَتَى علَى مَا فَرَّطتُ فِي جَنبِ اللَّهِ وَإِن كُنتُ لَمِنَ السَّاخِرِينَ "Lest the soul should (then) say: 'Ah! Woe is me!- In that I neglected (my duty) towards Allah, and was but among those who mocked أَوْ تَقُولَ لَوْ أَنَّ اللَّهَ هَدَانِي لَكُنتُ مِنَ الْمُتَّقِينَ "Or (lest) it should say: 'If only Allah had guided me, I should certainly have been among the righteous Quran .islam----
The imposing Christian attempts to pursuade the entire world they're living in service to either God or the Devil. I don't think that is a morally right thing to do.
If you use morals to judge others, then you're not secularist. Secularism has no morality. And, can't say what's right and what's wrong. A true secularist is a person who tolerate everything. A true secular government is a government that tolerate everything.
0:00 👇🤡 Qu'ran truly supports Secularism: 🔹Qu'ran 2:191 "And kill them wherever you overtake them and expel them from wherever they have expelled you, and fitnah is worse than killing. And do not fight them at al-Masjid al- Haram until they fight you there. But if they fight you, then kill them. Such is the recompense of the disbelievers." 🔹Qu'ran 2:193 "Fight them until there is no [more] fitnah and [until] worship is [acknowledged to be] for Allah. But if they cease, then there is to be no aggression except against the oppressors." 🔹Qu'ran 2:254 "O you who have believed, spend from that which We have provided for you before there comes a Day in which there is no exchange and no friendship and no intercession. And the disbelievers - they are the wrongdoers." 🔹Qu'ran 3:28 "Let not believers take disbelievers as allies rather than believers. And whoever [of you] does that has nothing with Allah, except when taking precaution against them in prudence. And Allah warns you of Himself, and to Allah is the [final] destination." 🔹Qu'ran 3:151 "We will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve for what they have associated with Allah of which He had not sent down [any] authority. And their refuge will be the Fire, and wretched is the residence of the wrongdoers." 🔹Qu'ran 4:56 "Indeed, those who disbelieve in Our verses - We will drive them into a Fire. Every time their skins are roasted through We will replace them with other skins so they may taste the punishment. Indeed, Allah is ever Exalted in Might and Wise." 🔹Qu'ran 4:89 "They wish you would disbelieve as they disbelieved so you would be alike. So do not take from among them allies until they emigrate for the cause of Allah. But if they turn away, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them and take not from among them any ally or helper." 🔹Qu'ran 4:144 'O you who have believed, do not take the disbelievers as allies instead of the believers. Do you wish to give Allah against yourselves a clear case?" 🔹Qu'ran 8:12 "[Remember] when your Lord inspired to the angels, "I am with you, so strengthen those who have believed. I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieved, so strike [them] upon the necks and strike from them every fingertip." 🔹Qu'ran 8:39 "And fight (Qa'tal) them until there is no fitnah and [until] the religion, all of it, is for Allah. And if they cease - then indeed, Allah is Seeing of what they do." 🔹Qu'ran 8:59 "And let not those who disbelieve think they will escape. Indeed, they will not cause failure [to Allah]." 🔹Qu'ran 8:60 "And prepare against them whatever you are able of power and of steeds of war by which you may terrify the enemy of Allah and your enemy and others besides them whom you do not know [but] whom Allah knows. And whatever you spend in the cause of Allah will be fully repaid to you, and you will not be wronged" 🔹Qu'ran 8:65 "O Prophet, urge the believers to battle. If there are among you twenty [who are] steadfast, they will overcome two hundred. And if there are among you one hundred [who are] steadfast, they will overcome a thousand of those who have disbelieved because they are a people who do not understand." 🔹Qu'ran 9:2 "You ˹polytheists˺ may travel freely through the land for four months, but know that you will have no escape from Allah, and that Allah will disgrace the disbelievers." 🔹Qu'ran 9:5 "And when the sacred months have passed, then kill the polytheists wherever you find them and capture them and besiege them and sit in wait for them at every place of ambush. But if they should repent, establish prayer, and give zakah, let them [go] on their way. Indeed, Allah is Forgiving and Merciful." 🔹Qu'ran 9:17 "It is not for the polytheists to maintain the mosques of Allah [while] witnessing against themselves with disbelief. [For] those, their deeds have become worthless, and in the Fire they will abide eternally." 🔹Qu'ran 9:19 "Do you ˹pagans˺ consider providing the pilgrims with water and maintaining the Sacred Mosque as equal to believing in Allah and the Last Day and struggling in the cause of Allah? They are not equal in Allah’s sight. And Allah does not guide the wrongdoing people." 🔹Qu'ran 9:23 "O you who have believed, do not take your fathers or your brothers as allies if they have preferred disbelief over belief. And whoever does so among you - then it is those who are the wrongdoers." 🔹Qu'ran 9:28 "O you who have believed, indeed the polytheists are unclean, so let them not approach al-Masjid al-Haram after this, their [final] year. And if you fear privation, Allah will enrich you from His bounty if He wills. Indeed, Allah is Knowing and Wise." 🔹Qu'ran 9:29 "Fight (Qa'tal) those who do not believe in Allah or in the Last Day and who do not consider unlawful what Allah and His Messenger have made unlawful and who do not adopt the religion of truth from those who were given the Scripture - [Qa'tal] until they give the jizyah willingly while they are humbled." 🔹Qu'ran 9:73 "O Prophet, carry out Jihād against the disbelievers and hypocrites, and be strict with them. And their abode is Jahannam (Hell), and it is an evil terminus." 🔹Qu'ran 9:123 "O you who believe, fight (Qa'tal) those disbelievers who are near you, and let them find severity in you. Know well that Allah is with the God-fearing. 🔹Qu'ran 22:19 "These are two adversaries who have disputed over their Lord. But those who disbelieved will have cut out for them garments of fire. Poured upon their heads will be scalding water" 🔹Qu'ran 30:45 "That He may reward those who have believed and done righteous deeds out of His bounty. Indeed, He does not like the disbelievers." 🔹Qu'ran 33:26 "And He brought down those who supported them among the People of the Scripture from their fortresses and cast terror into their hearts [so that] a party you killed, and you took captive a party." 🔹Qu'ran 47:4 "So when you meet those who disbelieve, strike [their] necks until, when you have inflicted slaughter upon them, then secure their bonds, and either [confer] favor afterwards or ransom [them] until the war lays down its burdens. That [is the command]. And if Allah had willed, He could have taken vengeance upon them [Himself], but [He ordered armed struggle] to test some of you by means of others. And those who are killed in the cause of Allah - never will He waste their deeds." 🔹Qu'ran 98:6 "Indeed, they who disbelieved among the People of the Scripture and the polytheists will be in the fire of Hell, abiding eternally therein. Those are the worst of creatures."
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This comment section made me loose faith in humanity. Good video, by the way. I always struggled to identify myself as atheist or agnostic, but I am confident that I am a secularist
وَأَنِيبُوا إِلَى رَبِّكُمْ وَأَسْلِمُوا لَهُ مِن قَبْلِ أَن يَأْتِيَكُمُ الْعَذَابُ ثُمَّ لَا تُنصَرُونَ
"Turn ye to our Lord (in repentance) and bow to His (Will), before the Penalty comes on you: after that ye shall not be helped
وَاتَّبِعُوا أَحْسَنَ مَا أُنزِلَ إِلَيْكُم مِّن رَّبِّكُم مِّن قَبْلِ أَن يَأْتِيَكُمُ العَذَابُ بَغْتَةً وَأَنتُمْ لَا تَشْعُرُونَ
"And follow the best of (the courses) revealed to you from your Lord, before the Penalty comes on you - of a sudden while ye perceive not
أَن تَقُولَ نَفْسٌ يَا حَسْرَتَى علَى مَا فَرَّطتُ فِي جَنبِ اللَّهِ وَإِن كُنتُ لَمِنَ السَّاخِرِينَ
"Lest the soul should (then) say: 'Ah! Woe is me!- In that I neglected (my duty) towards Allah, and was but among those who mocked
أَوْ تَقُولَ لَوْ أَنَّ اللَّهَ هَدَانِي لَكُنتُ مِنَ الْمُتَّقِينَ
"Or (lest) it should say: 'If only Allah had guided me, I should certainly have been among the righteous
Quran .islam----
Religion is the root of all evil !
If the world applied secularism 100%, you would truly lose faith in humanity.
@@tobychalmers8103
The lack of religion is the root of all evil.
Neither religion, nor the lack of religion is the root of all evil.
Money is.
A non religious theist is someone who believes in a god, but has no religious affiliation. Religion has a number of definitions, but usually there is involved in it, a set of beliefs, principals, and world views. A person can still believe in a god without subscribing to any of these.
What is it called when someone doesn’t believe in entities but they are affiliated in a religion?
@@thelastontarian7263 maybe an agnostic theist? Or a pragmatist? One who doesn't actually believe his faith, but sees the value and utility of following it anyways.
@@localman9063 oh ok
@@thelastontarian7263 A religious non-theist.
Define "all of these" Because depending on what they follow there are certain things they would be going against. For example the bible and some other religious texts will ask that their followers to tell about or share their religion because if you have faith or belief and world views i what you are in you share them. Secularist share theirs more then anyone non religious views and ways of life are ok but religious are not what keeps others from forcing their views on others as well?
Secularism is meant for the freedom of practicing own religion and belief. It also protects the atheist belief due to seperation of state from any religion. But these days, its a means to segregate and impose harsh treatments on the minority religion, while giving protectionism and special treatment to the majority religion.
how so? example?
That literally shariah law
@@tarantula51 good taqiyya
@@joygun9415 its just prove islam are oppresive religion
It is reverse in India minorities are treated as VIPs and Majority are common people anyone can say whatever to majority it doesn't matter but if you say to minority then you will be called as pseudo secular kaafir etc.
As a middle eastern I just wanted to say that claiming to be a humanitarian without promoting secularism is something I'd never ever understand, but also claiming to be a humanitarian on the basis of just supporting a secular regime is really hilarious. It is the same whether human rights are being violated by a theocracy or by a faciest dictatorship that promote some elements of secularism. Before embracing or opposing the ideology of any political entity, the entity should at first pass the whole "human rights threshold" without allowing it to make any exception to drop any of them.
There is no secular basis for humanitarianism. Secular liberalism actually justifies every bit of atrocity that has been committed there. These secularists have only recently adopted the religious values of altruism and empathy.
وَأَنِيبُوا إِلَى رَبِّكُمْ وَأَسْلِمُوا لَهُ مِن قَبْلِ أَن يَأْتِيَكُمُ الْعَذَابُ ثُمَّ لَا تُنصَرُونَ
"Turn ye to our Lord (in repentance) and bow to His (Will), before the Penalty comes on you: after that ye shall not be helped
وَاتَّبِعُوا أَحْسَنَ مَا أُنزِلَ إِلَيْكُم مِّن رَّبِّكُم مِّن قَبْلِ أَن يَأْتِيَكُمُ العَذَابُ بَغْتَةً وَأَنتُمْ لَا تَشْعُرُونَ
"And follow the best of (the courses) revealed to you from your Lord, before the Penalty comes on you - of a sudden while ye perceive not
أَن تَقُولَ نَفْسٌ يَا حَسْرَتَى علَى مَا فَرَّطتُ فِي جَنبِ اللَّهِ وَإِن كُنتُ لَمِنَ السَّاخِرِينَ
"Lest the soul should (then) say: 'Ah! Woe is me!- In that I neglected (my duty) towards Allah, and was but among those who mocked
أَوْ تَقُولَ لَوْ أَنَّ اللَّهَ هَدَانِي لَكُنتُ مِنَ الْمُتَّقِينَ
"Or (lest) it should say: 'If only Allah had guided me, I should certainly have been among the righteous
Quran .islam===---
@@alhamdleallah quoting a book written 1600 years ago doesn't do anything
Jesus is the only way to heaven
This comment section perfectly illustrates the idea of secularism. You have comments from different faiths given equal representation.
Under a theocracy, you'll have one side silencing and de-plaforming the other.
Everyone is equal to God and he wants to help you, it gives you a feeling of meaning to life and gratitude
That's wrong
Secularism is not a belief system or a method of promoting a particular moral philosophy. Don't confuse it with liberalism. Instead, its a way of conducting the business of government-it's aim is to preserve individual freedom to believe and practice their religion in their private lives. It does this by banning the creation of laws that are explicitly religious. How would you like it if you lived in a society that forced you to pray five times a day? Or pay money to the Catholic church? Or practice polygamy (ok, don't answer that one). You see, there are no limits to the kinds of infringements on our liberty that religions can dream up. So the only solution is to adopt a set of general values that nearly everyone can agree upon-values that are critical to a healthy society-like freedom of speech, freedom of assembly, freedom of religious belief/worship, equality under the law, etc. Then, with these unalienable rights established for all (in no way do these rights constitute a religion), we can go ahead and live in accordance with our religious or non religious values, and we can participate in making our country a better place by helping to shape laws that address REAL problems-problems of security, health, prosperity, etc, not problems of pure religiously defined morality. There are too many religions with too many competing moral codes to allow one religion power over all of us. This is the purpose of secularism. Don't attack something that's working for you.
You are conflating secular with secularism. Yes, the secular wants freedom of religion and for religion... secularism wants the privatisation of ALL Religion making secularism the de facto zeitgeist of society. This privatisation means that religious practice and rhetoric can only be done behind closed doors in specific locations, anything outside of it is illegal which clearly goes against freedom of assembly and equality under the law. Look at the case of China for example and North Korea... do you disagree these are examples of secularism?
Secularism means separation of State and Church. It has nothing to do with giving one the right to practice religion freely.
Secularism as practiced in the U.S. and other western countries, provides for both the separation of church and state as well as the freedom of religion. @@tasinal-hassan8268
1:35 or "I feel oppressed because I don't have the right to oppress others!"
I'm an Egyptian secularist
Truth is found by the fluctuations of attitudes and laws. Only when you have divided out reality from fiction, and understand its implications do you have the ultimate choice: to leave behind the threads that puppeteer you, or remain bound by those that control you.
Truth is the experience of differences. To be open minded is the key to the door, and the room is enlightenment.
Andrew and David - QualiaSoup is clearly credited at 2:46; and he kindly produced this series of videos for us.
وَأَنِيبُوا إِلَى رَبِّكُمْ وَأَسْلِمُوا لَهُ مِن قَبْلِ أَن يَأْتِيَكُمُ الْعَذَابُ ثُمَّ لَا تُنصَرُونَ
"Turn ye to our Lord (in repentance) and bow to His (Will), before the Penalty comes on you: after that ye shall not be helped
وَاتَّبِعُوا أَحْسَنَ مَا أُنزِلَ إِلَيْكُم مِّن رَّبِّكُم مِّن قَبْلِ أَن يَأْتِيَكُمُ العَذَابُ بَغْتَةً وَأَنتُمْ لَا تَشْعُرُونَ
"And follow the best of (the courses) revealed to you from your Lord, before the Penalty comes on you - of a sudden while ye perceive not
أَن تَقُولَ نَفْسٌ يَا حَسْرَتَى علَى مَا فَرَّطتُ فِي جَنبِ اللَّهِ وَإِن كُنتُ لَمِنَ السَّاخِرِينَ
"Lest the soul should (then) say: 'Ah! Woe is me!- In that I neglected (my duty) towards Allah, and was but among those who mocked
أَوْ تَقُولَ لَوْ أَنَّ اللَّهَ هَدَانِي لَكُنتُ مِنَ الْمُتَّقِينَ
"Or (lest) it should say: 'If only Allah had guided me, I should certainly have been among the righteous
Quran .islam----
@@alhamdleallah *Yawn* 😴
Jesus describes a world where we will have a choice as to whom we shall serve, but surrounded by both the faithful and the faithless.
The Parable of the Weeds (Matthew 13.24-30)
Service?
The Bible was written after Jesus rose to heaven 1000 years after. Why should I trust that?
Stop worshiping the ded due, your Jeeebus don't even had a historical evidence of existence, it was a lie made up by the aristocrats, church to control masses like you
I just wanna make another point is that secularism is not synonymous with humanism, because it only deals with "not being affiliated with any particular religion". It doesn't deal with the metaphysics of the existence of god(s), nor does it imply some ethical framework, either.
A secular person can also be a "theist". So, therefore, secularism is just an inclusive term for anybody who isn't religious.
Humanism, on the other hand, is just a non-theistic philosophy that emphasizes on promoting the good of humanity. That's it.
A non-religious person doesn't need to subscribe to humanism in order to be "irreligious", because there are plenty of irreligious people who are capable of being moral without being grounded on some philosophy. 🙂
OK:( do not go against the vid :)
@@imharuto But i'm not, dude. I was just making another point. That's it.
Secularism is a complete freedom of religious faith . one can come and go at his or her will . without holding hate on other faiths and also be respectful to all religion . different religions and have different customs , diets , system and belief . showing respect to all of the above . just like let the jew can wear kippah , muslims can wear turban or skullcap , sikhs can wear their turban, christians can wear cross and hindus can wear tilaka whatever it is at anywhere in this world.
@@user-qj7ew3dp7b fighting islam ? elaborate please
You can never expect people to believe this regardless of the classes which exist in the U.S. constitution.
We only need to accept that freedom is one of human faculty which one does not get because you stand and defend it as a secularist or whoever. Epistemological Relativism has been sawn in our society. Now I only feel contradictions only. To say that secularism does not deny people's religion is also another shallow argument which knocks it self down. If as a secularist I defend freedom but in defending it I weigh heavily on people's minds that it is the only best theory,what does it mean? As mentioned , ".. it does not justify one to teach religion in the skls". One who teaches it is seen as an "imposter" and the one who claims to know what is better for me is he not restricting my freedom. Secularism has its remarkable values and perhaps even the other. With the freedom of choice and of consciousness( moral freedom), let someone embraces his values
True secularism means separating morality from state. And, if this really happened, no law can be justified. Therefore, no secular state and no secular government can have any authority on people.
This is a christian nation. Under God my friend... under God.
وَأَنِيبُوا إِلَى رَبِّكُمْ وَأَسْلِمُوا لَهُ مِن قَبْلِ أَن يَأْتِيَكُمُ الْعَذَابُ ثُمَّ لَا تُنصَرُونَ
"Turn ye to our Lord (in repentance) and bow to His (Will), before the Penalty comes on you: after that ye shall not be helped
وَاتَّبِعُوا أَحْسَنَ مَا أُنزِلَ إِلَيْكُم مِّن رَّبِّكُم مِّن قَبْلِ أَن يَأْتِيَكُمُ العَذَابُ بَغْتَةً وَأَنتُمْ لَا تَشْعُرُونَ
"And follow the best of (the courses) revealed to you from your Lord, before the Penalty comes on you - of a sudden while ye perceive not
أَن تَقُولَ نَفْسٌ يَا حَسْرَتَى علَى مَا فَرَّطتُ فِي جَنبِ اللَّهِ وَإِن كُنتُ لَمِنَ السَّاخِرِينَ
"Lest the soul should (then) say: 'Ah! Woe is me!- In that I neglected (my duty) towards Allah, and was but among those who mocked
أَوْ تَقُولَ لَوْ أَنَّ اللَّهَ هَدَانِي لَكُنتُ مِنَ الْمُتَّقِينَ
"Or (lest) it should say: 'If only Allah had guided me, I should certainly have been among the righteous
Quran .islam----
What about the first amendment?
Freedom from religion for the children, freedom of religion for the adults To me, secularism or somthing akin to it, can only happen when a country does two things concurrently - 1. make it illegal for children at attend religious establishments and practice religion (up to age of 16) 2. A compulsory education emcompassing philosophy as well as covering all religions and ideologies in an objective intellectual manner. The first rule allows space for minds to develop and grow independent of religion. As almost all religious people are born into it, it seems logical that establishing a buffer between the person and the religion would alter the landscape considerably. Even if driving the religions underground, it would become less attractive to those migrating with strong religious tendancies. In Tureky Atatturk did it with adults, and that was a mitake I think. The second point is essential for the frst one to have any meaning. Create the space, offer a breadth of information, and allow humans to choose. There woud be great pushback. The religious, especially those with expansionist ideas, know that indoctrination of the young is their bread and butter. To me, it is nothing short of child abuse.
After watching this video, I've come to realize that secularism is the largest double standard there is. This video states that no belief will be specially protected, but how can you have freedom of religion if secularism is the law of the land? Wouldn't that just protect secularism and ostracize religion? This is a fascist idea that sets the groundwork for a social structure similar to communism. After watching this I am convinced that "Secularism" is the 21st century word used to describe communist fascism because it's main goal is to remove religious discussion from the public square shutting down all healthy debate and discussion, which in essence oppresses those who are religious.
Secularism does not aim to oppress any religion. It's primary aim is to disregard religion as a factor in the law or government of the state. This can be considered as a personal factor similar to that of skin colour or sexuality. Imagine if there were laws that protected white British people, but not African-Caribbean people, and imagine the government intentionally focused all their attention on straight people. It would be incredibly dysfunctional as a social structure. However, if the government disregards sexuality or skin colour as a factor at all, i.e. making laws that affect all human beings, then we have a functional social structure. Exactly the same principle applies with secularism.
Jess Crago How is that possible when our own declaration of independence recognizes the existence of a creator as the source of all our inalienable rights?
How exactly does it do that?
pure retardation, it allows full debates and discussion just prevents one faith from gaining power over legislations in a country, and that is GOOD, basically it's like saying we allow Christians and Muslims to practice their faith so long as it doesn't affect others, just imagine stupid Christians had legislative powers and imposed the plucking out of eyes like mentioned in the Bible or Muslims killing apostates, secularism is the almighty beast of systems to impose in a country!!
In the name of secularism....liberal fascism is practised
Should secularism be imposed on others ?
How is it possible for imposing seperation of state and church on someone?
can anyone explain the difference between secularism and secularization?
Secularism is the ideology.
Secularized= A once religious theocracy is turning thru new laws , regulations or politics into a SECULAR state. An Islamic theocracy would have to give Jews,Christians,Atheists the same rights to be considered "secularized" .
Jai shree ram 🙏🙏, jai RSS, jai bjp, jai VHP
Jai CAA
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Apna school ola hu Uber ☝️
Jay shri Raam 🙏🚩
This Sickularism or Muhammadan-Christian appeasement politics (In Indian context) will bent on knees in front of Dharma (Righteousness)
I think therefore i exist, therefore i was created or always existed and the creator was created or always existed, therefore God exists. I challenged humanity to debate with me the existence of God.
It’s a cool way to combat dogmas and biases without or with religion. But this still ignores biases that are viewed on other visible identities, like race, ability, gender and sexual orientation. This doesn’t eliminate that people will live within privilege and also create biases against other identities including those who are intersectional in this context receive and project their own. So how can we also get to that? I also question why it takes for us to do this rather than nurture a better rational process so you can come to with an individualistic conclusion with skepticism and logic and emotion. let’s not pretend that every aspect of your being is what changes your beliefs not just the theism or atheism you choose to accept. If you can’t accept other people are different and similar to you in different ways then I don’t think cohesion will ever work with or without a secular society.
Who isnt a secularist? We're not in Afghanistan
Would you consider France or Britain to be a secular state?
Nope, UK parlament has 26 seats reserved for white male bishops of church of England.
what is a religious atheist? how can you be one? do you have to not believe but also kind of like all the atrocities, mischievs and deceits religion has done in the name of smth you don't believe in?
TTBOn00bKiLleR yea, that did not make any sense
Your grammar is awful.
An atheist is like thin air.
Some Buddhists do not believe in God. Therefore, they are atheist (not believing in god) and are also religious (Buddhist).
This sounds nice until you realise that you can still be dominated by Feminists/Environmentalits/LGBT etc. Greta Thurnburg is essentailly a prophet but you can't criticise her because she has that 'science' on her side.
@luis Yes I'm aware of the dictionary definition of science.
How are LGBT dominating?
@@strictlysunny lol have you seen corporations bowing down to gay pride lately? Oreos are gay now.
Secularism does not claim to solve every problem in the world. It simply states that you separate church and state.
I identify as an American Secular Humanist.
Great video. Straight to the point and accurate.
To believe in such a system, you have to have a belief system, therefore Secularism is a religion itself, and there are moral absolutes. A Secularist may say there are no moral absolutes, but then what's to stop people from killing whomever they want, and who's to say what's wrong with that, so at some point, Secularists will have to admit they have their own ethics. Belief in religion is what defines a nation's belief system. If we just throw out all the other religions we'll just end up religiously following another that has been birthed from the unbelief of the other religions.
No one's said that secularists don't have our own set of ethics, and no one has said that people can't have their faith, just that it can't interfere with the matters of the state. For example; you cannot criminalise abortion because your faith tells you it's wrong. And no, secularism isn't a religion. Political views and organised religion aren't the same thing.
Well, she clearly must have dropped you with that attitude and language, and clearly you don't have any solid opinions of your own that you've expressed, so you've successfully presented a logical fallacy known as ad hominem.
If you thought a little deeper you'd recognize that all political views stem from an aspect of faith, and that is a factor of religion.
I am a person who advocates faith in society. though for the sake of debate. To say that Religion holds Absolute morals, would be wrong.
The bible for instance, It holds many contradictions. Such as "an eye for an eye" In The OT. and 'Turn the other Cheek' In the New.
a secularist ethical theory would provide absolute moral conditions called the Hypothetical imperatives. Though... I agree with what you are saying. To say politics is a faith is a little out there. But securalisim does impose on religion. And in terms of morality or laws. the more sources to moral decision making, the better.
no,secularism is not a religion
its an opinion and a system. if secularism is a religion then so are the ideas of free education or free market
this is the oxford definition of religion:
The belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods.
secularism does not follow this definition and neither does it fit the difinition from dictionary.com or any other acceptable definition of religion
secularism does NOT mean that the state cannot impose laws regarding common sets of morals
all it means is that religion cannot be given instutional power.
and as we saw by the definition religion is not a simple matter of common ethics
for example,i do support LGBT rights,but you can theoreticaly see gay relations as immoral with no connection
to your religion,in that case you can still follow the secular rules
what secularism does mean is that you cant attempt to make rules and such because gay relations are against CHRISTIANITY per say
you can still have views,the matter is simply not imposing or infringing on lifestyles on the BASIS of religion or religious belief
⚡️ Secularism/Ignoritism a Religion/Ideology it is.
Can I ask something? I always thought secularism was putting the needs of the state above morality. I always thought the definition you gave was just smoke and mirrors , because secularism makes a kind of bold claim is that its laws are better than that of gods, but if that is true then why aren’t people like George w. Bush in jail?
First you need to provide EVIDENCE that your God is the correct God...4000 other religions make the same lousy claim. And it doesn't put the needs of the STATE but the needs of the PEOPLE above one Religious Cult.
Secularism makes no claims - it is simply a system where politics are separated from Religion so that all different kinds of belief systems can practice religion without the fear of the government commuting crimes against them in the name of ( examples ) Allah or Jesus.
The problem is you misunderstanding secularism. Secularism and Atheism aren't the same thing. I assume your a follower of Islam....because only Islamic apologists spread false lies about secularism acting like a SECULAR state is some kind off Atheist political system or ideology.
Secularism proves to make society horrible as is apparent in America, depression is on a rising, obesity and disease are rising, Masculinity is in a decline and you people cant figure out how many genders there are, how could people in a secular society effectively run a society when everyone has their own opinion and no higher power, even if you came to an understanding somehow, then how do u even know its correct, racism and slavery was just abolished 50 years ago and Islam already taught race to be equal and slavery outlawed 1400 years ago, do ur history on Islam and how the Prophet SAW lived, their society is the peak of society and nothing would match. @@Raydensheraj
It’s really true
Jesus totally supports all people!
What is a non-religious theist? Religion is defined as "belief in, worship of, or obedience to a supernatural power or powers considered to be divine or to have control of human destiny". Isn't theism a belief in a diety, and thus a belief in a divine supernatural power (religion)?
That's the wrong definition, dude. Here's an actual definition: religion is a social institution that involves a unified system of beliefs, and practices that recognize the sacred. So, therefore, not all religions are even theistic. There are "non-theistic religions" that do exist.
Secularism simply means no religion in the public sphere, ie, no religion in politics, government offices, education, worksplace, etc. You do not have the right to practise or exhibit your religion as public officials. No conspicuous religious symbols. Therefore no turbans, no hijabs, no burkas, no giant crosses on police officers, teachers, government officials, etc. You are free to practise your religion in private. Practically every first world country is secular, eg, Canada, USA, Europe, Australia, Japan, etc.
وَأَنِيبُوا إِلَى رَبِّكُمْ وَأَسْلِمُوا لَهُ مِن قَبْلِ أَن يَأْتِيَكُمُ الْعَذَابُ ثُمَّ لَا تُنصَرُونَ
"Turn ye to our Lord (in repentance) and bow to His (Will), before the Penalty comes on you: after that ye shall not be helped
وَاتَّبِعُوا أَحْسَنَ مَا أُنزِلَ إِلَيْكُم مِّن رَّبِّكُم مِّن قَبْلِ أَن يَأْتِيَكُمُ العَذَابُ بَغْتَةً وَأَنتُمْ لَا تَشْعُرُونَ
"And follow the best of (the courses) revealed to you from your Lord, before the Penalty comes on you - of a sudden while ye perceive not
أَن تَقُولَ نَفْسٌ يَا حَسْرَتَى علَى مَا فَرَّطتُ فِي جَنبِ اللَّهِ وَإِن كُنتُ لَمِنَ السَّاخِرِينَ
"Lest the soul should (then) say: 'Ah! Woe is me!- In that I neglected (my duty) towards Allah, and was but among those who mocked
أَوْ تَقُولَ لَوْ أَنَّ اللَّهَ هَدَانِي لَكُنتُ مِنَ الْمُتَّقِينَ
"Or (lest) it should say: 'If only Allah had guided me, I should certainly have been among the righteous
Quran .islam----
If public officials do not have the right to practice their religion, then you're taking the freedom of religion from them. Therefore, that's not secularism.
why not a muslim can wear hijab or Skullcap , Jew can wear kippah , and christains can wear a cross by minding their own business along with respecting other religions ?? that is what the real Secularism .
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In India secularism means not criticizing but blindly appeasing muslim community for vote bank politics.
Religion should always be respected, loved, understood, tolerated, accepted and cared for regardless of opposing views
Orlan Smith yes this is the true secularism
وَأَنِيبُوا إِلَى رَبِّكُمْ وَأَسْلِمُوا لَهُ مِن قَبْلِ أَن يَأْتِيَكُمُ الْعَذَابُ ثُمَّ لَا تُنصَرُونَ
"Turn ye to our Lord (in repentance) and bow to His (Will), before the Penalty comes on you: after that ye shall not be helped
وَاتَّبِعُوا أَحْسَنَ مَا أُنزِلَ إِلَيْكُم مِّن رَّبِّكُم مِّن قَبْلِ أَن يَأْتِيَكُمُ العَذَابُ بَغْتَةً وَأَنتُمْ لَا تَشْعُرُونَ
"And follow the best of (the courses) revealed to you from your Lord, before the Penalty comes on you - of a sudden while ye perceive not
أَن تَقُولَ نَفْسٌ يَا حَسْرَتَى علَى مَا فَرَّطتُ فِي جَنبِ اللَّهِ وَإِن كُنتُ لَمِنَ السَّاخِرِينَ
"Lest the soul should (then) say: 'Ah! Woe is me!- In that I neglected (my duty) towards Allah, and was but among those who mocked
أَوْ تَقُولَ لَوْ أَنَّ اللَّهَ هَدَانِي لَكُنتُ مِنَ الْمُتَّقِينَ
"Or (lest) it should say: 'If only Allah had guided me, I should certainly have been among the righteous
Quran .islam----
@@orlansmith6230 Yeah my dude, you don't have any idea what are you talking about
🔹Qu'ran 47:4 “So when you meet those who disbelieve, strike [their] necks until, when you have inflicted slaughter upon them, then secure their bonds, and either [confer] favor afterwards or ransom [them] until the war lays down its burdens. That [is the command]. And if Allah had willed, He could have taken vengeance upon them [Himself], but [He ordered armed struggle] to test some of you by means of others. And those who are killed in the cause of Allah - never will He waste their deeds.”
Sounds like a good idea. I haven't seen anything like this working anywhere though. I'm not sure that it's a practical option.
It's been working since day one of the United States of America.
@@Raydensheraj th-cam.com/video/e2Ci1hgKYIA/w-d-xo.html
works for me
swearing hand on a special book is the funniest thing @@Raydensheraj
France and Czech Republic come to mind. entire Europe actually, to different degrees.
Would you consider France or Britain as secualar States?
No way
France is much more of secular state than Britain is, in fact you could say that the French are hypersecularists.
France is as secular as a former Christian theocratic country can get. However,they still do retain their Judeo-Christian principles of law and order.
No society,no matter how secular,can survive without assuming some level of religious philosophy.
@@tasinal-hassan8268 Which isn't true...China is surviving, right? And most democratic principles were established by the Greek philosophers and not the Abrahamic religions.
@@Raydensheraj China uses Confuciusiasm and Taoism as its national conscious. It's secular, but the values themselves are collectively based on religious philosophies of the past.
I'm a secularist and religion ain't gunna keep me in chains 🖕🖕
There's no secular basis for why one ought to be or not be in chains.
وَأَنِيبُوا إِلَى رَبِّكُمْ وَأَسْلِمُوا لَهُ مِن قَبْلِ أَن يَأْتِيَكُمُ الْعَذَابُ ثُمَّ لَا تُنصَرُونَ
"Turn ye to our Lord (in repentance) and bow to His (Will), before the Penalty comes on you: after that ye shall not be helped
وَاتَّبِعُوا أَحْسَنَ مَا أُنزِلَ إِلَيْكُم مِّن رَّبِّكُم مِّن قَبْلِ أَن يَأْتِيَكُمُ العَذَابُ بَغْتَةً وَأَنتُمْ لَا تَشْعُرُونَ
"And follow the best of (the courses) revealed to you from your Lord, before the Penalty comes on you - of a sudden while ye perceive not
أَن تَقُولَ نَفْسٌ يَا حَسْرَتَى علَى مَا فَرَّطتُ فِي جَنبِ اللَّهِ وَإِن كُنتُ لَمِنَ السَّاخِرِينَ
"Lest the soul should (then) say: 'Ah! Woe is me!- In that I neglected (my duty) towards Allah, and was but among those who mocked
أَوْ تَقُولَ لَوْ أَنَّ اللَّهَ هَدَانِي لَكُنتُ مِنَ الْمُتَّقِينَ
"Or (lest) it should say: 'If only Allah had guided me, I should certainly have been among the righteous
Quran .islam----
Jai Shree Ram
Dharma Will win
Jay shri Raam 🙏🚩
This Sickularism or Muhammadan-Christian appeasement politics (In Indian context) will bent on knees in front of Dharma (Righteousness)
Secularism is so NOT my cup of tea
So segregation is your cup of tea then?
Thumbs down for not only not giving credit to QualiaSoup, but for removing his username from the video altogether. Bad form, SecularismOrgUK, bad form. >:-(
Nice it is true
وَأَنِيبُوا إِلَى رَبِّكُمْ وَأَسْلِمُوا لَهُ مِن قَبْلِ أَن يَأْتِيَكُمُ الْعَذَابُ ثُمَّ لَا تُنصَرُونَ
"Turn ye to our Lord (in repentance) and bow to His (Will), before the Penalty comes on you: after that ye shall not be helped
وَاتَّبِعُوا أَحْسَنَ مَا أُنزِلَ إِلَيْكُم مِّن رَّبِّكُم مِّن قَبْلِ أَن يَأْتِيَكُمُ العَذَابُ بَغْتَةً وَأَنتُمْ لَا تَشْعُرُونَ
"And follow the best of (the courses) revealed to you from your Lord, before the Penalty comes on you - of a sudden while ye perceive not
أَن تَقُولَ نَفْسٌ يَا حَسْرَتَى علَى مَا فَرَّطتُ فِي جَنبِ اللَّهِ وَإِن كُنتُ لَمِنَ السَّاخِرِينَ
"Lest the soul should (then) say: 'Ah! Woe is me!- In that I neglected (my duty) towards Allah, and was but among those who mocked
أَوْ تَقُولَ لَوْ أَنَّ اللَّهَ هَدَانِي لَكُنتُ مِنَ الْمُتَّقِينَ
"Or (lest) it should say: 'If only Allah had guided me, I should certainly have been among the righteous
Quran .islam----
The imposing Christian attempts to pursuade the entire world they're living in service to either God or the Devil. I don't think that is a morally right thing to do.
If you use morals to judge others, then you're not secularist. Secularism has no morality. And, can't say what's right and what's wrong.
A true secularist is a person who tolerate everything.
A true secular government is a government that tolerate everything.
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It is a Christian nation and that will be the case as long as there is a monarchy because of the ‘divine right of kings’.
Good video understanding
⚡️ Wây’Ânn’Ham Dîn/Halât’in la.
Atatürk promoted secularism via brutal means . That is secularism for you.
0:00 👇🤡 Qu'ran truly supports Secularism:
🔹Qu'ran 2:191 "And kill them wherever you overtake them and expel them from wherever they have expelled you, and fitnah is worse than killing. And do not fight them at al-Masjid al- Haram until they fight you there. But if they fight you, then kill them. Such is the recompense of the disbelievers."
🔹Qu'ran 2:193 "Fight them until there is no [more] fitnah and [until] worship is [acknowledged to be] for Allah. But if they cease, then there is to be no aggression except against the oppressors."
🔹Qu'ran 2:254 "O you who have believed, spend from that which We have provided for you before there comes a Day in which there is no exchange and no friendship and no intercession. And the disbelievers - they are the wrongdoers."
🔹Qu'ran 3:28 "Let not believers take disbelievers as allies rather than believers. And whoever [of you] does that has nothing with Allah, except when taking precaution against them in prudence. And Allah warns you of Himself, and to Allah is the [final] destination."
🔹Qu'ran 3:151 "We will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve for what they have associated with Allah of which He had not sent down [any] authority. And their refuge will be the Fire, and wretched is the residence of the wrongdoers."
🔹Qu'ran 4:56 "Indeed, those who disbelieve in Our verses - We will drive them into a Fire. Every time their skins are roasted through We will replace them with other skins so they may taste the punishment. Indeed, Allah is ever Exalted in Might and Wise."
🔹Qu'ran 4:89 "They wish you would disbelieve as they disbelieved so you would be alike. So do not take from among them allies until they emigrate for the cause of Allah. But if they turn away, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them and take not from among them any ally or helper."
🔹Qu'ran 4:144 'O you who have believed, do not take the disbelievers as allies instead of the believers. Do you wish to give Allah against yourselves a clear case?"
🔹Qu'ran 8:12 "[Remember] when your Lord inspired to the angels, "I am with you, so strengthen those who have believed. I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieved, so strike [them] upon the necks and strike from them every fingertip."
🔹Qu'ran 8:39 "And fight (Qa'tal) them until there is no fitnah and [until] the religion, all of it, is for Allah. And if they cease - then indeed, Allah is Seeing of what they do."
🔹Qu'ran 8:59 "And let not those who disbelieve think they will escape. Indeed, they will not cause failure [to Allah]."
🔹Qu'ran 8:60 "And prepare against them whatever you are able of power and of steeds of war by which you may terrify the enemy of Allah and your enemy and others besides them whom you do not know [but] whom Allah knows. And whatever you spend in the cause of Allah will be fully repaid to you, and you will not be wronged"
🔹Qu'ran 8:65 "O Prophet, urge the believers to battle. If there are among you twenty [who are] steadfast, they will overcome two hundred. And if there are among you one hundred [who are] steadfast, they will overcome a thousand of those who have disbelieved because they are a people who do not understand."
🔹Qu'ran 9:2 "You ˹polytheists˺ may travel freely through the land for four months, but know that you will have no escape from Allah, and that Allah will disgrace the disbelievers."
🔹Qu'ran 9:5 "And when the sacred months have passed, then kill the polytheists wherever you find them and capture them and besiege them and sit in wait for them at every place of ambush. But if they should repent, establish prayer, and give zakah, let them [go] on their way. Indeed, Allah is Forgiving and Merciful."
🔹Qu'ran 9:17 "It is not for the polytheists to maintain the mosques of Allah [while] witnessing against themselves with disbelief. [For] those, their deeds have become worthless, and in the Fire they will abide eternally."
🔹Qu'ran 9:19 "Do you ˹pagans˺ consider providing the pilgrims with water and maintaining the Sacred Mosque as equal to believing in Allah and the Last Day and struggling in the cause of Allah? They are not equal in Allah’s sight. And Allah does not guide the wrongdoing people."
🔹Qu'ran 9:23 "O you who have believed, do not take your fathers or your brothers as allies if they have preferred disbelief over belief. And whoever does so among you - then it is those who are the wrongdoers."
🔹Qu'ran 9:28 "O you who have believed, indeed the polytheists are unclean, so let them not approach al-Masjid al-Haram after this, their [final] year. And if you fear privation, Allah will enrich you from His bounty if He wills. Indeed, Allah is Knowing and Wise."
🔹Qu'ran 9:29 "Fight (Qa'tal) those who do not believe in Allah or in the Last Day and who do not consider unlawful what Allah and His Messenger have made unlawful and who do not adopt the religion of truth from those who were given the Scripture - [Qa'tal] until they give the jizyah willingly while they are humbled."
🔹Qu'ran 9:73 "O Prophet, carry out Jihād against the disbelievers and hypocrites, and be strict with them. And their abode is Jahannam (Hell), and it is an evil terminus."
🔹Qu'ran 9:123 "O you who believe, fight (Qa'tal) those disbelievers who are near you, and let them find severity in you. Know well that Allah is with the God-fearing.
🔹Qu'ran 22:19 "These are two adversaries who have disputed over their Lord. But those who disbelieved will have cut out for them garments of fire. Poured upon their heads will be scalding water"
🔹Qu'ran 30:45 "That He may reward those who have believed and done righteous deeds out of His bounty. Indeed, He does not like the disbelievers."
🔹Qu'ran 33:26 "And He brought down those who supported them among the People of the Scripture from their fortresses and cast terror into their hearts [so that] a party you killed, and you took captive a party."
🔹Qu'ran 47:4 "So when you meet those who disbelieve, strike [their] necks until, when you have inflicted slaughter upon them, then secure their bonds, and either [confer] favor afterwards or ransom [them] until the war lays down its burdens. That [is the command]. And if Allah had willed, He could have taken vengeance upon them [Himself], but [He ordered armed struggle] to test some of you by means of others. And those who are killed in the cause of Allah - never will He waste their deeds."
🔹Qu'ran 98:6 "Indeed, they who disbelieved among the People of the Scripture and the polytheists will be in the fire of Hell, abiding eternally therein. Those are the worst of creatures."
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Nonsense.
it is a Christian nation suck it up
Would you consider France or Britain to be a secular state?
Yes
@@Raydensheraj no
@@Raydensheraj Nope, UK parlament has 26 seats reserved for white male bishops of church of England.
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