So much hate in the comments for the video and always hating on the pricing. Why is the internet so angry? (jealous) The pricing isn't that far off of prior model pricing and the features are updated. Its the most capable Jeep to date, upgrades and features come at a price. All the tech in vehicles now is making everything more expensive.
I got a base model (JL sport unlimited) for 36k which is a great deal. On long road trips its averaging 27 miles and about 24 around my home. As a hiker the base model is all that is needed for light off-roading. Just enough to get to remote trailheads. I prefer economy, comfort and efficiency so I am doing nothing unnecessary. I might get a rack for my kayak and gear.
I love wranglers, sadly they have priced themselves out of most peoples price range. My 2013 Wrangler sport with tow package, power windows and locks was $32k, a similarly equipped JL is $45k where I live. A $12k price increase in 6 years is insane to me.
I look at it this way: If you want a convertible that can seat 4 or 5 people comfortably, this is the least expensive option. On top of that, it can go so many places that those other convertibles can only dream of.
Eh if I were in for a Wrangler I would run 2 door sport for 28k then hard top and actually added to it as only upgrades for 32k, in the future the upper ends are nice but agree they are getting way over priced. Even that at 32k is a bit much compared to what a used one would run given how easy they are to work on and maintain
From what I understand, the new death wobble is due to alignment centering and the stability control. Make sure the steering is properly centered before having the steering aligned and ensure the wheel is aligned properly at the rack instead of the rod end. Hope this helps,
Great working environment indeed! Well, she said she didn't pay money for all that stuff.... but lets face it, she paid for it in another way! Nobody is going to give up thousands of dollars worth of stuff for free. Hell, the tires and rims are over a thousand dollars, by themselves!!
Thank you guys again for having us! It was AWESOME, such a fun experience! Can’t wait to hear what should be added to Snow White ! Like he said check out our dealership Clearshift Cars! Lots of trucks/suvs!
You can address the steering oscillation by fixing the caster angle on the front axle. A steering stabilizer wont fix it (it just hides it). Get adjustable lower front control arms, have an alignment shop adjust it, and you should be golden.
if you have concerns about the death wobble which is common with most wranglers and a solution check out the Lite Brite channel they have fixed the issue.
+Amber Parish get an Adjustable TrackBar. As others have said the stabilizer will not cure bump steer/death wobble. An adjustable trackbar with solid end links will fix it. Plus you can recenter the front axle with the adjustable length. Right now your axle is being pulled to the left side of the rig. The factory uses rubber bushings on both ends of the track bar which cause a lot of deflection and movement. Look up Carli Suspension and read up on it a bit. Do it sooner than later before it wears out other front end/Steering parts. Cheers!
1. IT’S YOUR JEEP! You build it how you want it to look, what you can afford, how you want it to perform. 2. Id stay away from cheap products. I’ve learned that from experience. My idea for your Jeep is: If you decide you get Snow White or the princes gang on your hood, stick with the black trim like your little Jeep decal you have on it already. I think the ‘dark’ princesses would fit the “badass” look. And if you have tattoos then maybe get the princesses with the tattooed arms. Just giving you ideas to work with. You do You!
Amber- Try to keep the exterior mods to a minimum, if you want to keep any of your remaining fuel mileage. Roof rack n' such will reduce your mileage even more.
Jim I acknowledge the renegade is for all practical purposes a fiat, however, as you alluded, wranglers are a different realm. And to that point, the 4 cylinder turbo was a concern upon its debut, but it’s been nearly three years and it’s been proven a reliable engine. If fiat does one thing right, it’s making reliable 4 cylinder engines. Concerns about their reliability are outdated. Yes, it was an issue. Back when 4 cylinders were introduced. They’ve since been refined. And to your point about the 4Runner, I’m sure it’s a very reliable car too. I’m assuming that saying it works as if it just came off the assembly line is an exaggeration of some degree though.
Very nice looking Jeep. I bought a new Rubicon Unlimited back in 2011 for a good deal. (Last of the 3.8 engines) Still enjoy it everyday and the Wrangler Jeep wave is still going strong :) Only vehicle I have owned that was always worth more then was owed throughout the entire loan. My only advice is to make sure you have glass coverage with no deductible and make sure the insurance covers an oem windshield. Other then a couple of windshields I haven't had any other problems.
If you can get a Rubicon at or near the price of a Sahara,go for the Rubicon.Even if you don’t need its off road prowess,the Rubicon will command more in resale value.
Stabilizer will just mask the wobble for about 30,000 miles. Then it will come back along with 7,000 dollars of damage caused by not fixing the alignment problem. Been there done that... :( Don't mask it, fix it.
Too much "toe in" would do that as opposed to "toe out". Then "reading" the tire wear and scuff marks on the tires would point out which one it is. Best thing is to have it laser aligned and adjusted just in case the axle is pointed down in front. 2 inches isn't much, but it still changes the geometry. She never mentioned which exact brand of lift, whether Rough Country, Teraflex, Extreme Terrain or Rubicon Express.
Just bought a 2000 F150 with 146k miles for $3500. My God, minus the fuel economy (13mpg), this thing impresses me every day. Granted this is my first purchase, I have driven many vehicles (my family owned a car lot) for years and this just makes me smile. I'll admit I'm biased, but boy oh boy, do I love my 2000 F150. Got a 5.4 V8 with the 4x4 XLT package. Great deal here in SoCal!
Hi Roman, I just wanted to give you a quick update on a recommendation you made to me years ago. In 2011 I was torn between the new Grand Cherokee or the VW Touareg, you said they were both good choices, I got the Grand Cherokee Overland and loved it for 0ver 200,000 miles. Then it became very needy in the service department. last month I picked up a new Sahara and am looking forward to may more great years. I'm missing a few creature comforts from the Overland, but I'll manage just fine.
Just ordered a 2019 sahara for my wife. Loaded. Listed for $54,060. Bought for $50,573. Couldn't say no to her as she's been driving her 1997 4Runner Ltd for almost 22 years. And it still looks and runs well. We live just North of Boston MA
@@redpilledpatriot8484 The 4runners don't have some of the luxuries like heated steering wheel, etc. She drove the Honda CRV, the RAV 4 , which had no power and the Wrangler. When she drove the wrangler she said this is it. Getting up there in she so don't want to look back and wished she bought it. Personnally, it's not my cup of tea, but "girls just like to have fun".
It's always amazing to see a young person able to buy a 46000.00 dollar vehicle like it's no big deal. I'm obviously a loser lol. Way out of my price range to pay for any vehicle.
Brian K Kinney same here. House poor is one thing, but car poor makes no sense. I can’t afford any of the new trucks out there and buying new makes little sense to me when there are so many used trucks that are just as capable.
If she works at a dealership, then she could very well be maxing out her budget. It’s a personal choice on fiscal responsibility & priorities. Here in California; housing is a large % of overhead (even relative to avg income).
I agree that is the one thing that is really god awful on wranglers. Everything else I can live with but the angry eyes thing is almost as bad as having to have fake testicles on the back of your truck ... almost...
My fiancée likes the JL but hates the grill. She actually wants a JK grill that fits on a JL front end. Far as we can tell there are no aftermarket JL grills yet.
I also went for a JLU Sahara. Shes going to be a labor of love, but I got the soft top version because in Tennessee it ends up nice enough most of the year that I know I'm going to love the top all the way down. I have the all black with cloth seats and I'm like Amber I wish it had the proximity sensor in the doors. I came from a Lexus IS 250 F Sport and loved that feature so much. Not that big of a deal to me because I'm not usually carrying a purse but it would be nice if I wanted to shove my keys in my backpack. We searched older models for quite some time before we decided that really the JL was the way to go for us. The older ones we were looking at were around three to four years old and didn't have the tech features that I was used to using in the Lexus, so overall I'm thrilled. My commute is forever long at the moment but is about to change and now that the weather is getting nicer I'm really looking forward to using the top more. It was definitely an expensive purchase but it's really the only SUV I would consider right for me.
Death wobble is a real issue, you spend over 50k and end up with a vehicle that you don't know if the next bump will make it uncontolable and potentially crash. I had to change out my entire steering on my jeep and all the fasteners to get mine to stop. My wife later bought the first year new Cherokee. it spent more time in the shop than on the road due to that crap auto trans. we eventually had to trade it off because we didn't have year or more to get the thing lemon lawed. The wrangers are way under powered. I had my jeep through Colorado, Moab, and the Telico trail, great times but to have a reliable ride you end up throwing way the steering, suspension, drive shafts, ring/pinion, exhaust, and tires/wheels to get even a rubicon to where it needs to be to handle these trails unless you like bunny trails. they have made these into something normal people cannot afford on the lot and then realize you are going to gut it to make it really capable spending 10s of thousands of dollars and there is not enough motor to boot. They are never going to give us a hemi. Now they give us the Gladiator truck with the same under powered engine good luck getting that to work. After my wife's top of the line Cherokee being a lemon we are done with Jeep.
Do not throw a stabilizer at death wobble. Get the JL welds fixed if this vin is apart of spot misses from the factory. Upgrade your trackbar and draglink
Man, I got to buy a jeep. The jeep owners and enthusiasts are clearly super nice and supportive bunch. I haven't seen a single mock comment here about her lame reason for buying the jeep.
52k msrp , even 46k is outrageous IMO. I'm definitely jealous this super young girl has this Jeep, but I have to ask financially this seems pretty reckless unless you have a huge down payment or cash to buy it. That's a lot of potential debt. That's my biggest issue with Jeep's, you need to have some serious money and be willing to dump more money into them. Even then, it's not really a great commuter or city car. One day...
redbeardwoodsman When you’re not married, and/or have no kids and few responsibilities… Most of the money that you earn is spending money! You only live once...
For a Sahara that's pretty insane. Back in 2016 I bought a top of the line Hard Rock Rubicon Unlimited and it was around $48k. A loaded JK Sahara was low to mid 40's at most.
Amber, please don't let these boneheads get you down. You have every right to have and enjoy your Jeep, just like any other Jeep owner. Which I think a few of these haters wish they had! Take care, and nice work Roman, on this new segment.
Unfortunately Jeeps are made for people Amber's size. Jeep FFS add 2" to the roof height, tall people can't see traffic signals or anything else with their heads above the windshield.
So it's basically a Rubicon minus all of the good things that make a Rubicon a Rubicon - bigger axles, beefier transfer case, sway bar disconnects, better shocks, Rubicon hood, etc. that are all expensive to add after the fact are all missing here. I paid $48K for a loaded JL Rubicon that is missing the only feature hers is missing (proximity entry). I don't see any real value in this particular purchase, and also don't see an explanation for the case of a Safari over a Rubicon as suggested by the video's title. It's a good looking rig for sure, but every "benefit" of a Sahara for an on-road Wrangler, which is why the Sahara exists, has been swapped out. What she's left with is a Rubiclone with death wobble due to a budget lift, which if she'd gotten a Rubicon she wouldn't have to add since her Sahara is now as high as a stock Rubicon.
StuffJasonDoes I was wondering the same thing, no way a Sahara is costing someone over 50k her boyfriend did not do his research at all, and let the broker walk all over them
Well...if you were given all the Rubicon stuff for free...why wouldn't you put them on? She paid nothing for them...so she's still only into it for what she paid for it. She didn't buy a Sahara and then PAY to all the Rubicon goodies on it...so sure...she has a Rubicon clone for Sahara money. Why not?
@@TheSlickster65 Its like you didn't even listen to the video...the Broker is from her dealership...so a co-worker. And a fully loaded Sahara IS $52k sticker...build one out...$52k...so $6k off sounds like a deal to me...its not like there's a $3k rebate floating around...
Not everybody wants the Rubicon. She has the auto case with that one too. I didn't get the Rubicon because I wanted a LSD for 90 % everyday driver for the wife. Mine has 3in lift better shocks rubicon wheels with 35, adjustable LCA and track bar. Never a death wobble or a bad shimmy. Stock JL are getting the death wobble.
@@chrishunt5291 Not everyone wants a Rubicon because not everyone wants the crappy ride that comes with off-road tires, not everyone wants the higher ride hight combined with the rock rails which makes it harder to get in and out of the vehicle. Those are the only two benefits that a Sahara has over a Rubicon. The Sahara is designed to be more usable on-road. That's my point. Even if she was given all of the Rubicon bits for free, she's essentially taken a Sahara and negated all of the positives of a Sahara, nearly paid 95% of Rubicon money for it (a similarly optioned Rubicon vs Sahara - ie when you load them all out - cost almost exactly the same), and still doesn't have something as capable as a Rubicon. If you're going to take a comfortable road-going Sahara and for the asme price make it as high and uncomfortable as a Rubicon, why not just buy a Rubicon to begin with and get the added benefits I mentioned?
I bought a 90 Wrangler years ago for $3000. I have put about another $4000 into it over 20 yrs of use. I drive a 2011 HHR I picked up for $6500 with 35000 miles. Frees up a lot of cash flow for travel and entertainment I otherwise could not afford.
Awesome Jeep Amber! Welcome to the Jeep family. It’s functional and classy the way you have set up. Definitely add a winch. Have fun with the rig! And don’t pay any attention to the haters in the comments. Maybe they are lacking bran in their diet. 🤣
@@yotakev99 did you not watch the video? Haha she's already been off roading in Colorado and has one trip down to Moab for off roading. I've watched her drag it across rocks already. Keep making youself feel better though by commenting like that.
Damn I got my 2018 Rubicon JLU for 45,000 should’ve got the rubicon. I only work 30hrs I week I’ve lifted it & running true 35s. I live in California where everything is over priced to live. Great video guys.
The wrangler is a one of a kind vehicle, and it’s for a selected group of people, I almost got the wrangler but had to go with the grand Cherokee just more features for my $$$$
Great video - I echo many of Amber's comments. I have had a JL now for 1 year - like Amber the Sahara with the optional 4 High, in Firecracker Red. My daughter (who is short like Amber), has a 2017 JK Extreme Purple. Like Amber, she loves how you can see out of it. My daughter has a windshield sticker that reads " Silly boys, Jeeps are for girls" . I have had a CJ5, Cherokee, 08 JK, 14 JK and now the JL. This is the best Wrangler by far. Yes I know it is expensive but they hold the value. Amber, since you took your steps off, I suggest you put the 3M Invisible mask on the fronts of your rear fenders. If you do any driving on gravel you will protect from chips. And yes, even those plastic fenders will chip. And keep an eye on the door hinges, they seem to attract chips also. Too bad you didn't get the proximity, that is a nice option. The 4H is why I got the Sahara. It is great in snow and off road for hunting. I live in SD so plenty of that.
Nice to see a different perspective like this. Maybe a wrangler would be a good vehicle for my daughters when they can drive in a few years. Of course they'd get an older used one
I LOVE my Sahara. I have never driven a vehicle I've liked more to be honest. I get pretty good fuel mileage too because mine has a fuel saver, not sure how common it is but I get 600km in one tank.
Back again! 2+ years later. :O) I am buying myself a brand new 4 door 2021 Sahara this week. Love my jeep. Such a great vehicle...very versatile and has an excellent trade-in value.
The death rattle maybe from shocks being extended due to lift. If you hit a bump or road rolls (road has small but frequent rises) and it begins to rattle look seriously at shocks. Had brand new heavy duty shocks less that 2 months old and truck would bob up and down so violently I'd stop. A buddy told me it was shocks. I told him no way, brand new. Well guess what, it was shocks. When I pulled them off I could compress them by hand. Nice review girl, thanks. Mike
Death wobble will happen to factory, unlifted JL's as well. -The steering stabilizer has to be changed. You failed to mention the LED lighting, the remote start or the 3 piece hard top. -Some of the best features on the JL.
The Jeep needs black step bars more than anything, they make really cool aftermarket headlights for a wrangler as well. I know you already have the Rubicon bumper but you could get black front and rear metal bumpers with some kind of wench package would look nice. maybe a roof rack
Yeah..... She became wifeable when she bought a Jeep and said she's high.... That's where the free stuff from Co workers comes in.... They just got friend zoned on public media .... No more Free parts from that "friend"
It is hard to find a Jeep on the lot just like I want. When you outfit a Jeep on the FCA site a search will turn up most (but not all) of the features you want - but then it doesn't tell you right off what it has on it that you DON'T want. Choosing the right top is also hard.
it seems like the best way to entertain getting a wrangler is to buy used with reasonable miles and have to fix it up little by little... my wife and I bought a '97 TJ and have had to do work on the cooling system and fix a couple of leaks (oil and transmission).
@@JRob-u3k you have never been to the north star mall in san antonio then but aside from that they are mostly just grocery getters people buy them just for looks and thats why they jqck the price up but i wheel mine all the time so i have nothing to complain about
@@JRob-u3k holy hell. You beat me to it. I owned Corvettes for a while. The community was great. No one looked down on anyone for what they did or didn't add aftermarket it to it. Owners of $100,000 would talk to $60,000 owners about what they added to their cheaper Vette. No one got on anyone for taking it to the track or not. These Jeep "enthusiast" are douche bag snobs that try to knock anyone else that owns one and doesn't something they wouldn't with it. Get a f'n life. I'm going to lift nine three stories and drive all over town with it to piss these people off.
I use my jeep for whatever I want whenever I want. I don't care if someone doesn't like my jeep. I always give the jeep wave whether or not I like someone else's jeep. It's all about a friendly community
Here’s what you do....every time your in the car with the wife and you pass a Jeep snap your head around like it was a girl with big boobs. At first say nothing, she will notice, when you pass one with a for sale sign on it say” I wonder how much that is?” It wont take long and she will ask if you want one. When she does say no, just dreaming. But keep looking and saying man thats a cool ride. She will soon say why don’t you just go get one....BOOM, permission granted immediately drive to the dealer and get it. I swear to god this works. It was told to me, i did it, and ended up with a brand new 2014 HD softail slim, which within a year she insisted i get a bigger bike. I now own a 2016 HD ultra limited in black named Lucile. Now I’m going to sell Lucile and buy a wrangler freedom. Ive been mentioning selling the HD and talking about Jeeps, snapping my head when an unlimited drives by. I got about two weeks before she insist that I go to the Jeep Dealer : )
@@dwatson4 This is a cute sneaky scheme! Unfortunately, Wranglers are so rare over here, I have not seen one being out with my wife for the last 30 years. I may see one every month at best, and usually, it's just a Sahara, not a Rubicon. But: We went to the dealership, and they rented me out a real Rubicon for one month! As it is intended to be our travel vehicle, her majesty should at least enjoy coming along. Unfortunately, she is not amused. So the rental will be returned soon 😢. But I had a month of fun!
I bought my 04 Ford Ranger for $4200 a few years ago, no problems and just normal inexpensive maintenance. I can't imagine her payments, that would not be worth it for me, no payments is an awesome feeling.
We did Fins N Things in a Jeep Grand Cherokee Overland (with a Pack-a-sport) on top.... So this review does not really push the limits of the vehicle. Also, sounds Like I need to get more friends that will just give me upgrades for my Jeep.
I commute 65 miles a day in my 91 Ford bronco, it gets a whopping 9-11mpg. Although u do have a gas card from the ranch the pays the gas in it. But it's pretty nice to get in and out of the mountains in. I take the JKU every now and then too just to get it out in the dirt.
My white 2017 Jeep Sahara is called "Wild Hourse" just got it in December. Have not done any real upgrades yet. I'm still driving 2011 2 door black Jeep Sahara that I will be selling in a month or so.
Jesus dammit stop complaining about what a vehicle costs. Are you posting in the McLaren videos about them?? Bitching about how they're too expensive??? What about a Ferrari or Porsche??? Oh damn the G-Wagens are $150k!! Are you posting on a Mercedes video complaining there too??? This idea that Jeeps are too expensive is nonsense. That's a top-line Sahara. OF COURSE IT'S GONNA COST SOME MONEY. Listen very carefully: A $40k car is expensive just like a $20k car is, or a $10k car is. If you can't afford something then you can't afford something. Plenty of minimum wage earners could never drop $20k for a vehicle, so why are you not complaining that everything's too expensive?? It makes no logical sense for you to do so.
@J name It's not really anybody's business what she does, honestly. Maybe her BF makes bank, maybe her family has cash. If she lives at home or with her BF and pays little rent, works at a dealership, and saved up a while, it might be completely legit. She didn't seem very entitled so I give her the benefit of the doubt. To your House Hunters example, I think tire cleaning is supposed to average about 2.9 mil a year so that adds up. :-p
52 grand!!! This is why I bought a 2008 Toyota Tacoma last year for $15 grand with only 75,000 miles on it, it still has 3/4 of its life and for WAAAAY less than a new one.. i won’t lose nearly as much in depreciation now and it will still likely outlast even a 2018 Jeep. I just can’t believe these prices anymore!
Some Ox Lockers, 33" mudders, R&P regear, and a 4:1 gearset for the tcase could make her Sahara as good offroad as a Rubicon...with more luxury commuting.
"Sticker it was 52(k) and I got it for 46(k)." The fact that a 46 THOUSAND dollar vehicle is considered a DEAL just shows you how incredibly screwed up the car market is right now and how hard Fiat is working to price these vehicles right out of the range of middle class buyers. It's a joke. Or it would be, if it wasn't so disgusting. Jeeps are so expensive right now that as a professional Systems Engineer smack in the center of middle class earnings I can't afford one AND also own my own home. And to think: Jeeps used to be known as affordable vehicles. No longer. Jeeps are now toys for the wealthy and singles.
@@theirreversibleone First of all, that's JK and JL combined. So not an accurate picture. Secondly, subtract 20% for fleet sales. Lastly, the base model JK sold more than any JL did.
@@dchawk81 And you will have a used vehicle with all the problems inherent in that. Why should middle class people be relegated to the castoffs of others? Perhaps the pricing structure of Jeeps is out of whack?
@@Wearyman There are new cars in your price range. No law says you get to have what you want just because you want it. There was a time I couldn't afford anything that wasn't a beater, whether it was new or used. That's just life. I didn't expect everything to be cheap to accommodate my lack of income. Jeeps are expensive but if you REALLY shop around, anything with 4WD isn't going to be cheap. Add luxurious appointments to anything and the prices easily top 40k.
death wobble isn't going to be fixed with a stabilizer , maybe remedied but not fixed. its a geometry issue. maybe get a longer drop pitman arm or a drop down mount for the track bar to sit more horizontal. probably needs both to fix the issue.
i think the issue is probably also coming from the caster angle after the lift. my guess is even on a mild lift you need to correct the castor angle with new radius arms. if not your drive line angle will be all wrong as well.
Great looking jeep ,probably the best looking wrangler ever. Oops should have watched longer before comments . You did a great job with the mods wicked nice job.
Well, if she's not the cutest dam thing on TH-cam! lol "I don't want cute, I want Bad Ass!" = lol Followed by, what's the her name again? "Snow White..." lmao - to freaking cute! lol
@@LaserFocused maybe she didnt want a used Jeep...since they lose 40 percent of their value when they drive off the lot id say you got the worse deal...what the hell were you thinking?
If a fully loaded 60k JL Rubicon drops 40% when driven off the lot and you see one with less than 1k miles let me know where they are selling it.. @@philtripe
You did not talk about the reason for purchasing a Sahara over a Rubicon, as the title states. There are some advantages to the Sahara vs Rubicon, depending on the application. TFL never talks about that.
Cool, guess you will start to enjoy life only when you are feeble and old at 65, thanks for the advise, I save and invest about 15% of my income annually and they have doubled or tripled during the past years. In the meantime, will go off-roading and having awesome adventures with my Jeep.
@@FJDH11 Because in 1998 a fully loaded Cherokee XJ would cost 22k if you didnt have a trade in or negotiate the price. Adjusted for inflation thats 34k in 2019. And those old Jeeps are 1 million times more of a Jeep than these ever could be. Everything from build quality, basic design, off road capability, rust prevention and reliability. Im glad you like your Jeep man but at the end of the day you cant expect people to get less for more and be happy about it.
So much hate in the comments for the video and always hating on the pricing. Why is the internet so angry? (jealous)
The pricing isn't that far off of prior model pricing and the features are updated. Its the most capable Jeep to date, upgrades and features come at a price. All the tech in vehicles now is making everything more expensive.
I got a base model (JL sport unlimited) for 36k which is a great deal. On long road trips its averaging 27 miles and about 24 around my home.
As a hiker the base model is all that is needed for light off-roading. Just enough to get to remote trailheads. I prefer economy, comfort and efficiency so I am doing nothing unnecessary. I might get a rack for my kayak and gear.
That generous co worker is clearly as deep into the friend zone as you can possibly get lol
Or hoping to be real soon!!! I bet the BF has other thoughts about the "gift" :):)
@@MrLangDog Nobody hopes to be deep in the friend zone.
"Please take all these gifts and give me nothing in return.," said no one ever.
Lmao
The friend could be a female
@@302irishaj She doesn't want to be in the friend zone either.
I love wranglers, sadly they have priced themselves out of most peoples price range. My 2013 Wrangler sport with tow package, power windows and locks was $32k, a similarly equipped JL is $45k where I live. A $12k price increase in 6 years is insane to me.
I look at it this way: If you want a convertible that can seat 4 or 5 people comfortably, this is the least expensive option. On top of that, it can go so many places that those other convertibles can only dream of.
Insane to me too but as lobg as people buy prices will go up!
Eh if I were in for a Wrangler I would run 2 door sport for 28k then hard top and actually added to it as only upgrades for 32k, in the future the upper ends are nice but agree they are getting way over priced. Even that at 32k is a bit much compared to what a used one would run given how easy they are to work on and maintain
I bought my 07 Sahara for 25k listed 27k. Not sure if I want to pay 60k for a gladiator.
Supply and Demand at work ! :)
From what I understand, the new death wobble is due to alignment centering and the stability control. Make sure the steering is properly centered before having the steering aligned and ensure the wheel is aligned properly at the rack instead of the rod end. Hope this helps,
A co-worker gave her wheels, tires, and a bumper “for free”. What a great working environment!
Great working environment indeed! Well, she said she didn't pay money for all that stuff.... but lets face it, she paid for it in another way! Nobody is going to give up thousands of dollars worth of stuff for free. Hell, the tires and rims are over a thousand dollars, by themselves!!
@@plk7592 smh ^
Actually, pricing is supply and demand - here in the DFW area, you can barely give stock stuff away just to have someone move it out of the garage :)
And this is why you are douche bags
well nobody gives away rims for free... without a rim... job..
Thank you guys again for having us! It was AWESOME, such a fun experience!
Can’t wait to hear what should be added to Snow White !
Like he said check out our dealership Clearshift Cars! Lots of trucks/suvs!
35's mickey thompsons, 3.5 inch lift, new rims, rear tire carrier upgrade, front lights on hood/ bumper, roof rack just a few suggestions
You can address the steering oscillation by fixing the caster angle on the front axle. A steering stabilizer wont fix it (it just hides it). Get adjustable lower front control arms, have an alignment shop adjust it, and you should be golden.
if you have concerns about the death wobble which is common with most wranglers and a solution check out the Lite Brite channel they have fixed the issue.
+Amber Parish get an Adjustable TrackBar. As others have said the stabilizer will not cure bump steer/death wobble. An adjustable trackbar with solid end links will fix it. Plus you can recenter the front axle with the adjustable length. Right now your axle is being pulled to the left side of the rig. The factory uses rubber bushings on both ends of the track bar which cause a lot of deflection and movement. Look up Carli Suspension and read up on it a bit. Do it sooner than later before it wears out other front end/Steering parts. Cheers!
1. IT’S YOUR JEEP! You build it how you want it to look, what you can afford, how you want it to perform.
2. Id stay away from cheap products. I’ve learned that from experience.
My idea for your Jeep is: If you decide you get Snow White or the princes gang on your hood, stick with the black trim like your little Jeep decal you have on it already. I think the ‘dark’ princesses would fit the “badass” look. And if you have tattoos then maybe get the princesses with the tattooed arms. Just giving you ideas to work with. You do You!
Amber- Try to keep the exterior mods to a minimum, if you want to keep any of your remaining fuel mileage. Roof rack n' such will reduce your mileage even more.
I enjoy these type of videos. However my 1st house in ‘74 was the same price of that Jeep.
Taz Mod I think you’re forgetting inflation
My house in '95 was same price.
Crazy how inflation works
Whooo! Inflation sucks!
There's no way I could pay that kind of money for a jeep...I'm sorry, just doesn't make sense...and now trucks are $70-80k...
After the trucks hit $35k sensible people said, keep it and buy older cheap trucks.
Jim why?? Is reliability not a concern to you?
Jim I acknowledge the renegade is for all practical purposes a fiat, however, as you alluded, wranglers are a different realm. And to that point, the 4 cylinder turbo was a concern upon its debut, but it’s been nearly three years and it’s been proven a reliable engine. If fiat does one thing right, it’s making reliable 4 cylinder engines. Concerns about their reliability are outdated. Yes, it was an issue. Back when 4 cylinders were introduced. They’ve since been refined. And to your point about the 4Runner, I’m sure it’s a very reliable car too. I’m assuming that saying it works as if it just came off the assembly line is an exaggeration of some degree though.
Just bought a '98 TJ with 130k miles for $500
😁😁😁😁
(No, I didn't forget a zero)
Very nice looking Jeep. I bought a new Rubicon Unlimited back in 2011 for a good deal. (Last of the 3.8 engines) Still enjoy it everyday and the Wrangler Jeep wave is still going strong :) Only vehicle I have owned that was always worth more then was owed throughout the entire loan. My only advice is to make sure you have glass coverage with no deductible and make sure the insurance covers an oem windshield. Other then a couple of windshields I haven't had any other problems.
Amber is Awesome. The Jeep is Awesome. Travis is Awesome. The dogs are Awesome. Today is Awesome. That squeaky voice is totally Awesome.
Sticker's are awesome AF
If you can get a Rubicon at or near the price of a Sahara,go for the Rubicon.Even if you don’t need its off road prowess,the Rubicon will command more in resale value.
LOVE your jeep....going to look at a Rubicon today...hopefully we can find something that works for me. Awesome car Amber✌🏽
Stabilizer will just mask the wobble for about 30,000 miles. Then it will come back along with 7,000 dollars of damage caused by not fixing the alignment problem. Been there done that... :( Don't mask it, fix it.
Too much "toe in" would do that as opposed to "toe out". Then "reading" the tire wear and scuff marks on the tires would point out which one it is. Best thing is to have it laser aligned and adjusted just in case the axle is pointed down in front. 2 inches isn't much, but it still changes the geometry.
She never mentioned which exact brand of lift, whether Rough Country, Teraflex, Extreme Terrain or Rubicon Express.
Keith Lucas actually she did in fact say the lift was an Evo.
6:53 "The cool thing about being white is everything is doable" 😂
Amber, cool truck. Forget about the proximity censor: it helps the car thieves to relieve you of your ride.
Not if you have the keys stored in an RFID blocking pouch.
Just bought a 2000 F150 with 146k miles for $3500. My God, minus the fuel economy (13mpg), this thing impresses me every day. Granted this is my first purchase, I have driven many vehicles (my family owned a car lot) for years and this just makes me smile. I'll admit I'm biased, but boy oh boy, do I love my 2000 F150. Got a 5.4 V8 with the 4x4 XLT package. Great deal here in SoCal!
Hi Roman, I just wanted to give you a quick update on a recommendation you made to me years ago. In 2011 I was torn between the new Grand Cherokee or the VW Touareg, you said they were both good choices, I got the Grand Cherokee Overland and loved it for 0ver 200,000 miles. Then it became very needy in the service department. last month I picked up a new Sahara and am looking forward to may more great years. I'm missing a few creature comforts from the Overland, but I'll manage just fine.
Just ordered a 2019 sahara for my wife. Loaded. Listed for $54,060. Bought for $50,573. Couldn't say no to her as she's been driving her 1997 4Runner Ltd for almost 22 years. And it still looks and runs well. We live just North of Boston MA
Sir you have a wonderful wife driving a 4runner shes a keeper!!!
You know Toyota is great... after 22 years... so you buy a fiat.....HHMMM....
@@redpilledpatriot8484 The 4runners don't have some of the luxuries like heated steering wheel, etc. She drove the Honda CRV, the RAV 4 , which had no power and the Wrangler. When she drove the wrangler she said this is it. Getting up there in she so don't want to look back and wished she bought it. Personnally, it's not my cup of tea, but "girls just like to have fun".
Should have read, getting up there in age
@@angelomma2155 Thank you. Thankfully her parts are not getting rusty like part of the 4Runner !
The Sahara is a well rounded model and just enough for most people.
MrWaffles correction the sport s is well over good enough!
It's always amazing to see a young person able to buy a 46000.00 dollar vehicle like it's no big deal. I'm obviously a loser lol. Way out of my price range to pay for any vehicle.
Brian K Kinney same here. House poor is one thing, but car poor makes no sense. I can’t afford any of the new trucks out there and buying new makes little sense to me when there are so many used trucks that are just as capable.
If she works at a dealership, then she could very well be maxing out her budget. It’s a personal choice on fiscal responsibility & priorities. Here in California; housing is a large % of overhead (even relative to avg income).
Preach! For real I was like WTF, they must have a lot more money than me or they are super car poor.
They have 7 and 8 year financing now. If that's what they had to do, they're überf*cked if they go to trade it.
Some kids are indeed making good money though these days.
Looks Super….... NO angry grill Please
I agree that is the one thing that is really god awful on wranglers. Everything else I can live with but the angry eyes thing is almost as bad as having to have fake testicles on the back of your truck ... almost...
No idea what you mean.
2nd vote for no angry bird grill.They are every where and got old real fast.
Almost as bad as those square headlights years ago.
My fiancée likes the JL but hates the grill. She actually wants a JK grill that fits on a JL front end. Far as we can tell there are no aftermarket JL grills yet.
I also went for a JLU Sahara. Shes going to be a labor of love, but I got the soft top version because in Tennessee it ends up nice enough most of the year that I know I'm going to love the top all the way down. I have the all black with cloth seats and I'm like Amber I wish it had the proximity sensor in the doors. I came from a Lexus IS 250 F Sport and loved that feature so much. Not that big of a deal to me because I'm not usually carrying a purse but it would be nice if I wanted to shove my keys in my backpack. We searched older models for quite some time before we decided that really the JL was the way to go for us. The older ones we were looking at were around three to four years old and didn't have the tech features that I was used to using in the Lexus, so overall I'm thrilled. My commute is forever long at the moment but is about to change and now that the weather is getting nicer I'm really looking forward to using the top more. It was definitely an expensive purchase but it's really the only SUV I would consider right for me.
Death wobble is a real issue, you spend over 50k and end up with a vehicle that you don't know if the next bump will make it uncontolable and potentially crash. I had to change out my entire steering on my jeep and all the fasteners to get mine to stop. My wife later bought the first year new Cherokee. it spent more time in the shop than on the road due to that crap auto trans. we eventually had to trade it off because we didn't have year or more to get the thing lemon lawed. The wrangers are way under powered. I had my jeep through Colorado, Moab, and the Telico trail, great times but to have a reliable ride you end up throwing way the steering, suspension, drive shafts, ring/pinion, exhaust, and tires/wheels to get even a rubicon to where it needs to be to handle these trails unless you like bunny trails. they have made these into something normal people cannot afford on the lot and then realize you are going to gut it to make it really capable spending 10s of thousands of dollars and there is not enough motor to boot. They are never going to give us a hemi. Now they give us the Gladiator truck with the same under powered engine good luck getting that to work. After my wife's top of the line Cherokee being a lemon we are done with Jeep.
Kent Henry yes but if you over power a vehicle off-road you’ll do more damage when you smack the rocks. It’s not for Baja.
What a nice person Amber seems to be. Loves dogs. And off reading. And Jeeps. Amazing Spirit. More power to Amber!
Do not throw a stabilizer at death wobble. Get the JL welds fixed if this vin is apart of spot misses from the factory. Upgrade your trackbar and draglink
Man, I got to buy a jeep. The jeep owners and enthusiasts are clearly super nice and supportive bunch. I haven't seen a single mock comment here about her lame reason for buying the jeep.
52k msrp , even 46k is outrageous IMO. I'm definitely jealous this super young girl has this Jeep, but I have to ask financially this seems pretty reckless unless you have a huge down payment or cash to buy it. That's a lot of potential debt. That's my biggest issue with Jeep's, you need to have some serious money and be willing to dump more money into them. Even then, it's not really a great commuter or city car. One day...
redbeardwoodsman When you’re not married, and/or have no kids and few responsibilities… Most of the money that you earn is spending money! You only live once...
Not everyone is poor . And by the way life is too short to drive a POS
This is awesome. The Sahara is awesome. She is awesome. The whole thing, it’s just awesome.
She is gorgeous! I am talking about the Jeep
Great video content Roman. Great truck, Jeep Sahara- just purchased a new 19. Wrangler not much smaller than Explorer....
Wrangler is about the same weight, 10" shorter, but wheelbase is 6" longer. Most people buy a Sahara for the "automatic" all-wheel drive.
I stopped listening after $52K
Ok
For a Sahara that's pretty insane. Back in 2016 I bought a top of the line Hard Rock Rubicon Unlimited and it was around $48k. A loaded JK Sahara was low to mid 40's at most.
@@groberts1980 You're also getting a lot more in terms of features and tech. Not saying one is better than the other, just saying...
Soon as I heard her nasal voice amd typical blonde "like blah blah blah like " babble I started puncturing my eye drums with a stick
You probably should have listened a bit longer. It was stickered at $52k,she paid $46k for it.
I really like this format of asking actual paying owners questions for a review.
Amber, please don't let these boneheads get you down. You have every right to have and enjoy your Jeep, just like any other Jeep owner. Which I think a few of these haters wish they had! Take care, and nice work Roman, on this new segment.
Unfortunately Jeeps are made for people Amber's size. Jeep FFS add 2" to the roof height, tall people can't see traffic signals or anything else with their heads above the windshield.
So it's basically a Rubicon minus all of the good things that make a Rubicon a Rubicon - bigger axles, beefier transfer case, sway bar disconnects, better shocks, Rubicon hood, etc. that are all expensive to add after the fact are all missing here. I paid $48K for a loaded JL Rubicon that is missing the only feature hers is missing (proximity entry). I don't see any real value in this particular purchase, and also don't see an explanation for the case of a Safari over a Rubicon as suggested by the video's title.
It's a good looking rig for sure, but every "benefit" of a Sahara for an on-road Wrangler, which is why the Sahara exists, has been swapped out. What she's left with is a Rubiclone with death wobble due to a budget lift, which if she'd gotten a Rubicon she wouldn't have to add since her Sahara is now as high as a stock Rubicon.
StuffJasonDoes I was wondering the same thing, no way a Sahara is costing someone over 50k her boyfriend did not do his research at all, and let the broker walk all over them
Well...if you were given all the Rubicon stuff for free...why wouldn't you put them on? She paid nothing for them...so she's still only into it for what she paid for it. She didn't buy a Sahara and then PAY to all the Rubicon goodies on it...so sure...she has a Rubicon clone for Sahara money. Why not?
@@TheSlickster65 Its like you didn't even listen to the video...the Broker is from her dealership...so a co-worker. And a fully loaded Sahara IS $52k sticker...build one out...$52k...so $6k off sounds like a deal to me...its not like there's a $3k rebate floating around...
Not everybody wants the Rubicon. She has the auto case with that one too. I didn't get the Rubicon because I wanted a LSD for 90 % everyday driver for the wife. Mine has 3in lift better shocks rubicon wheels with 35, adjustable LCA and track bar. Never a death wobble or a bad shimmy. Stock JL are getting the death wobble.
@@chrishunt5291 Not everyone wants a Rubicon because not everyone wants the crappy ride that comes with off-road tires, not everyone wants the higher ride hight combined with the rock rails which makes it harder to get in and out of the vehicle. Those are the only two benefits that a Sahara has over a Rubicon. The Sahara is designed to be more usable on-road. That's my point. Even if she was given all of the Rubicon bits for free, she's essentially taken a Sahara and negated all of the positives of a Sahara, nearly paid 95% of Rubicon money for it (a similarly optioned Rubicon vs Sahara - ie when you load them all out - cost almost exactly the same), and still doesn't have something as capable as a Rubicon. If you're going to take a comfortable road-going Sahara and for the asme price make it as high and uncomfortable as a Rubicon, why not just buy a Rubicon to begin with and get the added benefits I mentioned?
Just went to a dealership and ordered the diesel Rubicon ! Should deliver 6-8weeks.
When I get a Sahara, I'm not lifting it. I don't plan on doing off-roading around Atlanta, GA...LOL!
Just got my Sahara and have no plans on going off-road
Couldn't finish watching this awesome video about an awesome Jeep owned by an awesome blonde. It was too awesome for me...
Good video! I have a fairly stock 2019 Sahara. Husky dog rides in the back. Had a 2009 Rubacon 2 door. Love the both of them!
I bought a 90 Wrangler years ago for $3000. I have put about another $4000 into it over 20 yrs of use. I drive a 2011 HHR I picked up for $6500 with 35000 miles. Frees up a lot of cash flow for travel and entertainment I otherwise could not afford.
Wow a young girl like that can splash out $46k on a new Jeep! My first car was $2k
Awesome Jeep Amber! Welcome to the Jeep family. It’s functional and classy the way you have set up. Definitely add a winch. Have fun with the rig! And don’t pay any attention to the haters in the comments. Maybe they are lacking bran in their diet. 🤣
A winch for what? So she can pull herself out of the Starbucks parking lot? That Jeep will never see a speck of dirt.
@@yotakev99 did you not watch the video? Haha she's already been off roading in Colorado and has one trip down to Moab for off roading. I've watched her drag it across rocks already. Keep making youself feel better though by commenting like that.
Love this! I am a Jeep girl too!
Listening to this during the car market of late '22. Amber got a screaming deal.
I’ve noticed Jeeps probably attract more women than any other brand. The only other real suv that comes close is the g wagon.
They are offroad vehicles. Not SUVs.
Yep. What’s the difference?
... and why did you feel you needed to enlighten us with this knowledge?
Noel Ebbert
Not Jeep. Wrangler only.
Ford raptor. Case closed.
Damn I got my 2018 Rubicon JLU for 45,000 should’ve got the rubicon. I only work 30hrs I week I’ve lifted it & running true 35s. I live in California where everything is over priced to live. Great video guys.
I really like these videos from you guys it was stuff like this that got me started watching in this channel keep up the great shows
The wrangler is a one of a kind vehicle, and it’s for a selected group of people, I almost got the wrangler but had to go with the grand Cherokee just more features for my $$$$
Great video - I echo many of Amber's comments. I have had a JL now for 1 year - like Amber the Sahara with the optional 4 High, in Firecracker Red. My daughter (who is short like Amber), has a 2017 JK Extreme Purple. Like Amber, she loves how you can see out of it. My daughter has a windshield sticker that reads " Silly boys, Jeeps are for girls" . I have had a CJ5, Cherokee, 08 JK, 14 JK and now the JL. This is the best Wrangler by far. Yes I know it is expensive but they hold the value. Amber, since you took your steps off, I suggest you put the 3M Invisible mask on the fronts of your rear fenders. If you do any driving on gravel you will protect from chips. And yes, even those plastic fenders will chip. And keep an eye on the door hinges, they seem to attract chips also. Too bad you didn't get the proximity, that is a nice option. The 4H is why I got the Sahara. It is great in snow and off road for hunting. I live in SD so plenty of that.
Nice to see a different perspective like this. Maybe a wrangler would be a good vehicle for my daughters when they can drive in a few years. Of course they'd get an older used one
Jook13 - my daughter is 5'1", and she drives a JK for the same reason - plus it fits all her animals- she can afford it because she is a veterinarian.
I LOVE my Sahara. I have never driven a vehicle I've liked more to be honest. I get pretty good fuel mileage too because mine has a fuel saver, not sure how common it is but I get 600km in one tank.
What kind of fuel saver? What kind of Jeep do you have?
Back again! 2+ years later. :O) I am buying myself a brand new 4 door 2021 Sahara this week. Love my jeep. Such a great vehicle...very versatile and has an excellent trade-in value.
Awesome vocabulary, awesome
Whatever you do little girl dont put a Grill Cover on it. Beautiful Jeep by the way. Enjoy it.
There's nothing like a jeep period.
My jeep has never had a period....although, snow white on the other hand...
@@charleswright86 yeah I was just thinking, gross
The death rattle maybe from shocks being extended due to lift. If you hit a bump or road rolls (road has small but frequent rises) and it begins to rattle look seriously at shocks. Had brand new heavy duty shocks less that 2 months old and truck would bob up and down so violently I'd stop. A buddy told me it was shocks. I told him no way, brand new. Well guess what, it was shocks. When I pulled them off I could compress them by hand. Nice review girl, thanks. Mike
I just bought a 19JL rubicon and they said it was custom ordered and also had everything but the proximity
I've noticed when I "build" in 20 options the ones on the lots only have up to about 12 of them.
Death wobble will happen to factory, unlifted JL's as well. -The steering stabilizer has to be changed. You failed to mention the LED lighting, the remote start or the 3 piece hard top. -Some of the best features on the JL.
Perfect choice for an 80 mile commute. Value falling off a cliff...
ewxlt i don’t think she bought it for value. Hell who does
The Jeep needs black step bars more than anything, they make really cool aftermarket headlights for a wrangler as well. I know you already have the Rubicon bumper but you could get black front and rear metal bumpers with some kind of wench package would look nice. maybe a roof rack
My full size bronco has a shorter wheelbase than the 4 door wrangler.
curlylarrymoe you want a cookie
@@MetalSlug142 Just pointing out a fact. I hope I didn't offend. I know facts can be upsetting these days to some people.
Whopptie shit. I'm so impressed I went sleep for a year
@@robertrichardson9953 You should go to sleep for a few more years.
Another good episode. Please make the owner love or hate it episodes a playlist so they're easier to find and watch
8:40- "I'm only 5 foot" me aww that's cute
"And high" wait wut?... Lol for a minute I was like they're allowed to drive HIGH out there!?!?
I was gonna say, she has to be all of 5 foot nothing on a good day. She looks like a midget compared to Roman.
It is Colorado... lol
Yeah..... She became wifeable when she bought a Jeep and said she's high.... That's where the free stuff from Co workers comes in.... They just got friend zoned on public media .... No more Free parts from that "friend"
It is hard to find a Jeep on the lot just like I want.
When you outfit a Jeep on the FCA site a search will turn up most (but not all) of the features you want - but then it doesn't tell you right off what it has on it that you DON'T want.
Choosing the right top is also hard.
I watched this and was like so.....she really just wanted a MOAB basically lol 😂🤣
I knew it was Sahara! Cause no other kind of Jeep (Wrangler) has painted fenders. It looks awesome by the way! 😍🔥
Painted fenders are standard on the Sahara but optional on other trims
Lost me at "So my botfriend"...
it seems like the best way to entertain getting a wrangler is to buy used with reasonable miles and have to fix it up little by little... my wife and I bought a '97 TJ and have had to do work on the cooling system and fix a couple of leaks (oil and transmission).
The price of these Jeeps is just stupid which is the reason 90% of them are Mall crawlers.
Randy Carlisle I was just thinking the same thing.
@@JRob-u3k you have never been to the north star mall in san antonio then but aside from that they are mostly just grocery getters people buy them just for looks and thats why they jqck the price up but i wheel mine all the time so i have nothing to complain about
Check out .... Jeep Wrangler Rubicon JL Overland Adventure Series
@@JRob-u3k holy hell. You beat me to it. I owned Corvettes for a while. The community was great. No one looked down on anyone for what they did or didn't add aftermarket it to it. Owners of $100,000 would talk to $60,000 owners about what they added to their cheaper Vette. No one got on anyone for taking it to the track or not. These Jeep "enthusiast" are douche bag snobs that try to knock anyone else that owns one and doesn't something they wouldn't with it. Get a f'n life. I'm going to lift nine three stories and drive all over town with it to piss these people off.
I use my jeep for whatever I want whenever I want. I don't care if someone doesn't like my jeep. I always give the jeep wave whether or not I like someone else's jeep. It's all about a friendly community
Wow, absolutely badass for sure! Exactly what it will take to convince my wife (5'4") that we desperately need one of those 🤣. Thanks a lot!
Here’s what you do....every time your in the car with the wife and you pass a Jeep snap your head around like it was a girl with big boobs. At first say nothing, she will notice, when you pass one with a for sale sign on it say” I wonder how much that is?” It wont take long and she will ask if you want one. When she does say no, just dreaming. But keep looking and saying man thats a cool ride. She will soon say why don’t you just go get one....BOOM, permission granted immediately drive to the dealer and get it. I swear to god this works. It was told to me, i did it, and ended up with a brand new 2014 HD softail slim, which within a year she insisted i get a bigger bike. I now own a 2016 HD ultra limited in black named Lucile. Now I’m going to sell Lucile and buy a wrangler freedom. Ive been mentioning selling the HD and talking about Jeeps, snapping my head when an unlimited drives by. I got about two weeks before she insist that I go to the Jeep Dealer : )
@@dwatson4 This is a cute sneaky scheme! Unfortunately, Wranglers are so rare over here, I have not seen one being out with my wife for the last 30 years. I may see one every month at best, and usually, it's just a Sahara, not a Rubicon. But: We went to the dealership, and they rented me out a real Rubicon for one month! As it is intended to be our travel vehicle, her majesty should at least enjoy coming along. Unfortunately, she is not amused. So the rental will be returned soon 😢. But I had a month of fun!
she didn't seem too enthusiastic about this thing. doing 80 miles/ day sounds like hell with 19mpg.
No kidding a cross over with 30mpg is huge
I bought my 04 Ford Ranger for $4200 a few years ago, no problems and just normal inexpensive maintenance. I can't imagine her payments, that would not be worth it for me, no payments is an awesome feeling.
Roman: please, please, PLEASE, stop saying “butt-clenching”
Phil H why?
Why cant he say butt-clenching?
He calls a spade a spade!
I agree Phil. Tired of that.
It kind of turns me on.
We did Fins N Things in a Jeep Grand Cherokee Overland (with a Pack-a-sport) on top.... So this review does not really push the limits of the vehicle. Also, sounds Like I need to get more friends that will just give me upgrades for my Jeep.
Adjectives....there can be only one...."Its awesome!"
She was fantastic. She’s going to be a lifer. Woot! Go Amber
Jeeps are cool, but don't know about commuting 80 miles a day...😳⛽️
KJ try driving 150+ miles a day...
Yeah I'd have to keep my sedan for that distance.
Not so much the gas but the comfort.
I commute 65 miles a day in my 91 Ford bronco, it gets a whopping 9-11mpg. Although u do have a gas card from the ranch the pays the gas in it. But it's pretty nice to get in and out of the mountains in. I take the JKU every now and then too just to get it out in the dirt.
My wife commutes under 4 miles round trip in ours and I feel like that’s pushing it
Lol
My white 2017 Jeep Sahara is called "Wild Hourse" just got it in December. Have not done any real upgrades yet. I'm still driving 2011 2 door black Jeep Sahara that I will be selling in a month or so.
I like the Sahara too
very nice Amber looks like an affordable G wagon Congrats
Such a beautiful Jeep, but such an ugly price. 😢
airbus214airplane yup $70,000 taxes in up here in canada
@@lunaticcycle1300 Holy S***! 😲
@@lunaticcycle1300 I know eh? Cheers from Toronto!
Jesus dammit stop complaining about what a vehicle costs. Are you posting in the McLaren videos about them?? Bitching about how they're too expensive??? What about a Ferrari or Porsche??? Oh damn the G-Wagens are $150k!! Are you posting on a Mercedes video complaining there too???
This idea that Jeeps are too expensive is nonsense. That's a top-line Sahara. OF COURSE IT'S GONNA COST SOME MONEY.
Listen very carefully: A $40k car is expensive just like a $20k car is, or a $10k car is. If you can't afford something then you can't afford something. Plenty of minimum wage earners could never drop $20k for a vehicle, so why are you not complaining that everything's too expensive?? It makes no logical sense for you to do so.
@J name It's not really anybody's business what she does, honestly. Maybe her BF makes bank, maybe her family has cash. If she lives at home or with her BF and pays little rent, works at a dealership, and saved up a while, it might be completely legit. She didn't seem very entitled so I give her the benefit of the doubt.
To your House Hunters example, I think tire cleaning is supposed to average about 2.9 mil a year so that adds up. :-p
52 grand!!! This is why I bought a 2008 Toyota Tacoma last year for $15 grand with only 75,000 miles on it, it still has 3/4 of its life and for WAAAAY less than a new one.. i won’t lose nearly as much in depreciation now and it will still likely outlast even a 2018 Jeep. I just can’t believe these prices anymore!
"The cool thing about being white is that everything is doable" lmfao
😄
Best comment joke in years
replace white with attractive female and its spot on
I was waiting for somebody to point that out 😂
If it ain't white it ain't right lol
Some Ox Lockers, 33" mudders, R&P regear, and a 4:1 gearset for the tcase could make her Sahara as good offroad as a Rubicon...with more luxury commuting.
This chick said awesome like a million times
Yeah that's pretty awesome!!!
When I was her age I would use AWESOME once or twice a month.
Her BF says UMMMM a million times🙄
Drinking game: everytime she sez "awesome "
If she wasn't a little cutie I'd be mad at her😏
So if I'm understanding everything correctly, everything was awesome. That's awesome.
52K sticker, 46K for her. I'll buy it it used from her in a year for 35K
That seems pretty unlikely given the current used prices of 2018 jl’s
no you won't
She won't sell it for that because she'll be so upside down on it that she can't afford to take the loss
Jeez tough lives for you all.
Red hair and Amber is Kari Byron of Myth busters. AWESOME!!!
"Sticker it was 52(k) and I got it for 46(k)." The fact that a 46 THOUSAND dollar vehicle is considered a DEAL just shows you how incredibly screwed up the car market is right now and how hard Fiat is working to price these vehicles right out of the range of middle class buyers. It's a joke. Or it would be, if it wasn't so disgusting. Jeeps are so expensive right now that as a professional Systems Engineer smack in the center of middle class earnings I can't afford one AND also own my own home. And to think: Jeeps used to be known as affordable vehicles. No longer. Jeeps are now toys for the wealthy and singles.
Weary Man they sold 240k of them last year. Doesn’t exactly scream exclusive.
You can buy used.
@@theirreversibleone First of all, that's JK and JL combined. So not an accurate picture. Secondly, subtract 20% for fleet sales. Lastly, the base model JK sold more than any JL did.
@@dchawk81 And you will have a used vehicle with all the problems inherent in that. Why should middle class people be relegated to the castoffs of others? Perhaps the pricing structure of Jeeps is out of whack?
@@Wearyman There are new cars in your price range. No law says you get to have what you want just because you want it.
There was a time I couldn't afford anything that wasn't a beater, whether it was new or used. That's just life. I didn't expect everything to be cheap to accommodate my lack of income.
Jeeps are expensive but if you REALLY shop around, anything with 4WD isn't going to be cheap. Add luxurious appointments to anything and the prices easily top 40k.
death wobble isn't going to be fixed with a stabilizer , maybe remedied but not fixed. its a geometry issue. maybe get a longer drop pitman arm or a drop down mount for the track bar to sit more horizontal. probably needs both to fix the issue.
i think the issue is probably also coming from the caster angle after the lift. my guess is even on a mild lift you need to correct the castor angle with new radius arms. if not your drive line angle will be all wrong as well.
"$900 taillight"?!! ... That's only about $600 more than one for a Rolls Royce.
I love the $900 tail light. My 85 Dodge tail light sucks but only cost $18 when I break it.
I hear you. For my '86 Chevy: 1.) sealed beam headlight: $7, the fancy one $15, 2.) tail light: $6 ;-)
Aftermarket companies will come out with cheaper alternatives real soon . This is the WAY
This series is great roman! I can’t believe how far til has come in the past 2 years or so.
I use to watch Roman when the site was called theromaniccarguy.
Great looking jeep ,probably the best looking wrangler ever. Oops should have watched longer before comments . You did a great job with the mods wicked nice job.
Well, if she's not the cutest dam thing on TH-cam! lol
"I don't want cute, I want Bad Ass!" = lol
Followed by, what's the her name again? "Snow White..." lmao - to freaking cute! lol
My Rubicon cost the exact same as that Sahara, hmmm.
Nearly ditto. Mine was 2 Grand more and I got it in Feb 2018.
True I got a fully loaded unlimited Rubicon steel bumpers leather and dual tops for 44k what? I was surprised @@Robstunner
mine had 1k miles as a show car in the dealership
@@LaserFocused maybe she didnt want a used Jeep...since they lose 40 percent of their value when they drive off the lot id say you got the worse deal...what the hell were you thinking?
If a fully loaded 60k JL Rubicon drops 40% when driven off the lot and you see one with less than 1k miles let me know where they are selling it.. @@philtripe
You did not talk about the reason for purchasing a Sahara over a Rubicon, as the title states. There are some advantages to the Sahara vs Rubicon, depending on the application. TFL never talks about that.
How can anyone keep a straight face while using the phrases "new stock jeep" and "$52,000" in the same breath?
Paid 65k for mine, so?I make over 100K a year, it's not a big deal for many people.
@@FJDH11 dude that is more than half of youre income!!!! But who cares i saved all my money on my retirementlol
Cool, guess you will start to enjoy life only when you are feeble and old at 65, thanks for the advise, I save and invest about 15% of my income annually and they have doubled or tripled during the past years. In the meantime, will go off-roading and having awesome adventures with my Jeep.
@@FJDH11 Because in 1998 a fully loaded Cherokee XJ would cost 22k if you didnt have a trade in or negotiate the price. Adjusted for inflation thats 34k in 2019. And those old Jeeps are 1 million times more of a Jeep than these ever could be. Everything from build quality, basic design, off road capability, rust prevention and reliability. Im glad you like your Jeep man but at the end of the day you cant expect people to get less for more and be happy about it.