The stabilization while walking seems much better than the 3rd party camera apps. I think with it being an apple product they can hit parts of the hardware (like the sensor shift) that the other apps can’t access.
Thanks. Very helpful. I just downloaded the ap and it might work at a basic level for me.Just wanting to do 2 camera)(iphone) recording of some training videos. Hope to do that with out the need for ipad.cheers Geoff
I think this app is actually a perfect middle ground between the native camera app and Blackmagic’s. A real pro will want BM, but this gives you fully manual control of all the important features in a simple and intuitive interface. Other than not having h.265 log and limited aspect ratios , this camera app is everything I would have wanted and will be my daily driver capture app. Perfect for those who want a little more manual control than the native app but really don’t need to go as deep as BM lets you.
Ok,not so bad, I still think the Blackmagic app has more options.. I wish Apple would come with Cinematic mode in LOG in iphone 16, would buy it right away 😅
@@clafflin493bro, he’s 100% right. It’s not saying that the app is lame, but compared to the Blackmagic App, this one is an absolute no go for me just because of that I’m not a « pro » film-maker, I’m just a curious guy who loves learning and there’s no way I buy a 100€ SSD that I’ll always have to plug/rig to my iPhone so I can record family vlogs and videos of my kids
Eh, its free, so why not download it, I don't think it comes close to BMCA though. Need to be able to load my own preview LUT's, anamorphic desqueeze etc. I think the multi-cam looks cool. The REAL question is which app will Apple use for their next event (given that it seems that they are going to continue using iPhones for all events)?
I think the multicam thing is a great start… I wish apple would allows to stream directly from the Final Cut app to the social media of our choice using the ipad as a switcher and editing app at the same time. I would subscribe that app immediately
Hey how to sync 3 smartphone videos shot with different angles. How to sync those 3 smartphone videos in DaVinci Resolve or any other editing software.
For the life of me, I could not get any other camera to connect to my brand new iPad. I had everything set up correctly with wifi and bluetooth, everyone was logged into an Apple ID, and it still would not work. One iPhone could see my iPad and could even start the connection process where he had to put in the share code, while the other just could not see my iPad at all. All were on the same wifi. I restarted the iPad and the iPhones, restarted the app and still nothing worked. It was extremely frustrating.
This would all make more sense as a tab in the native camera app. If I want more sophisticated camera controls, I can think of at least two camera apps that run circles around this app.
I like how it works on many devices, like how i put it on my 12 mini, but it really is barebones app wise. Also i was thrown off by the phone name cause i really thought that was an iphone xr. So when i saw prores log on i was freaking out, but no it's just the phones name lol
nice and quick turnaround on the video!!! I'm in the category of the last user you mentioned. have been working on some talking head videos with myself or with friends and at first just used the FaceTime camera. then used Orion on my M4 iPad to use it as a monitor but was kind of a pain...but as a basic wireless monitor that can control the iPhone using that back lenses.... *chef's kiss*
Nice and fair review. I think the Blackmagic Design iPhone app is still better at this point. I do like the multi-cam feature of the Final Cut Camera though.
If they can simply add cinematic mode on it, it would be an actual pro camera app. Cmon now! I really wanted this app to be a replacement for mirrorless and r dslr dept of field effect!
I downloaded this app on my iPhone 13 Pro Max and it will not let me record in ProRes. I get a notification saying "ProRes 3840 x 2160 at 30 fps is only supported when your device has a minimum storage capacity of 256GB or when recording to external storage" I currently have plenty of space on my phone so this is kind of disappointing.
I think people reviewing Apple products often don't understand the company very well. Apple isn't trying to compete with Blackmagic...they've intentionally given them a particular lane on the platform which is mutually beneficial for both companies. If they wanted to Sherlock Blackmagic or Mavis or any of the other camera apps they certainly could. So why aren't they? That's the question you all need to answer rather than "why didn't Apple do....?" Apple is all about the ecosystem and they tend to roll out capacity over time rather than frontl oading everything, all at once. Most advanced professionals (people who make films/TV/Streaming) are (probably)not going to use this at all (yet). But there are a lot of folks who are also professionals (TH-camrs, skilled enthusiasts, independent media) who are in Apple's ecosystem who now have one more reason to stay and maybe even double down. Someone who was perfectly content with their pre-M iPad and who makes content suddenly has a compelling reason to upgrade. The multicam is perfect for BTS and on location (indoor) set ups (like conventions and tech shows) and for video podcasts. It does a good job of putting a very advanced workflow at the fingertips of folks who either don't want the hassle of setting something like this up or who don't yet know how or who don't have two or three of the same camera. There are number of ways to get a multicam view but almost nothing is as simple as this. Yes, I realize this is the "standalone" app review. But here in lies the misunderstanding. Apple doesn't see this as a standalone app for people shoot, record, and edit as usual. They're building a Final Cut infrastructure/ecosystem and if they don't abandon it, may result in more buy-in for their products/philosophy...which Hotel California-esque, all the time. Apple's "Pro" moniker is at least somewhat about flattery: it can make people feel more skilled (or powerful) than they maybe are at the moment. Apple doesn't get everything right all the time but they have been consistently strategic about stuff like this. And their vision of "pro" has always been to simplify what is (needlessly) complex. Sometimes they're right, sometimes they're wrong. But that's their culture.
Just some thoughts on the multi cam app. They really should have a single button to match all cameras to a given device, and if any camera can't match then warn which device didn't match and how. That way if one is using a bunch of different iPhones they can match to the weakest option easily without having to tinker around with a bunch of cameras only to find the last one is the weakest link and having to go back and readjust all the others to match. Secondly they need to not only fix the rang issue, but figure out a way to remote join a camera from a different internet location otherwise this is just a very limited and cheesy option and not very pro at all.
Is it worth it to get the 15 pro this summer and film all my travels (upgrading from 12 pro max ) I have a carrier upgrade, and would like to use it with a cage from small rig and my older lenses a couple moment lenses and 37mm lenses or I can wait for the 16 and then also wait for the new cage and adapters and cases etc so I’m assuming I won’t be able to get it until 6 months from now in December. Could there be a case for the 15 pro now and have 6 months of experience with the phone or is it better to just sit and wait and see what they got in the meantime and just get the 16 instead? Thanks in advance,much love from fleetwood bc
Wait until after sept 10th 2024 to get the iPhone 16. Not much longer and well worth waiting for. No matter what the specs will be, they will be improved upon what we have now.
I feel this is an unfair review. Continuity camera is what they’re using. It’s been well documented to be a 20-30 foot range on Mac for years now. I feel you wanted black magic camera which is free or p3 camera which is paid.
I used the Blackmagic app while on a trip to Portugal and when I get back 3/4 of the the video clips have no sound Luckily that was a secondary as brought my BMPCC6k as primary and used iPhone for all backup shots
Yeah I always feel spoiled that the pocket cameras still record real time audio so you can align it later in post if desired. But yes the app sadly does not have the same ability.
The years I’ve been waiting for one or two button multi-cam I’m sure I’ll manage with one room. Good quality live wireless video isn’t that easy to do.
It’s literally the first version on day 1 release and people are crying about it and trying to compare it to a product that came out at least a year ago and has had many updates.
Apple totally missed it on this app. Can’t connect mic via Bluetooth. No flash. Zoom is super grainy in low light. Doesn’t switch lens’s while zooming.
I was just disappointed. The only advanced thing this app has is the native iphone stabilisation. No log for hevc. No 60fps in log without external drive. Hmmm... So, I am staying with Blackmagic 😅
Hey man, thanks I give you a thumbs up😅 👍 I agree with you about black magic app , at least for iPhone, I’m not professional, but I can take good pictures and videos 😊
Your take is narrow. Only a tiny percentage use this for podcasting. Think bigger-life events like graduations and weddings, or even sharing video from network cameras on Apple's Final Cut app with production crews. Apple's design reaches the masses. The number of people attending these events far outweighs podcast creators. Broaden your scope, man. It's clear you're biased-possibly sponsored by Blackmagic or a fan. As a channel host, you should know how few people use Blackmagic compared to Apple. I own both, and I'm the only one I know who does. As fun as it is to watch you talk with the same background every video, you need to quit being so freaking lazy and actually show, gear in action. I just watched three or four videos where people seem to be working together with literally no issue at all like the ones you described. So that I have visual evidence, for you I have a hearsay story about you and your wife upstairs. Step it up, dude. The most impressive thing I ever see you do is make cages that you don’t look strong enough to carry.
*As usual, this app won't work with my excellent camera and 8K resolution Android Galaxy S22 phone. Typical Apple only app. Sorry, but I down have 4 iPhone 15 Ultras. I do have an iPadPro.*
The stabilization while walking seems much better than the 3rd party camera apps. I think with it being an apple product they can hit parts of the hardware (like the sensor shift) that the other apps can’t access.
The clips are accessible in the Files app. And if your 15 Pro is always full you can capture to an external SSD
Thanks. Very helpful. I just downloaded the ap and it might work at a basic level for me.Just wanting to do 2 camera)(iphone) recording of some training videos. Hope to do that with out the need for ipad.cheers Geoff
I think this app is actually a perfect middle ground between the native camera app and Blackmagic’s. A real pro will want BM, but this gives you fully manual control of all the important features in a simple and intuitive interface. Other than not having h.265 log and limited aspect ratios , this camera app is everything I would have wanted and will be my daily driver capture app. Perfect for those who want a little more manual control than the native app but really don’t need to go as deep as BM lets you.
The best middle ground between the native camera app and BM is an app called Kino.
Ok,not so bad, I still think the Blackmagic app has more options..
I wish Apple would come with Cinematic mode in LOG in iphone 16, would buy it right away 😅
100% agree and this is what I am waiting for to buy my next iPhone.
Good grief is the first release, and it's free. And people are still complaining?
F people frfr
Isn’t the Final Cut for iPad subscription based though?
@@mrheng562 yeah but the camera app is separate. You only need the app for multicam.
@@mrheng562Yes, but the camera app can be used without owning FCP2 for iPad. It’s literally a free camera app from Apple.
@@mrheng562 yes
Multi-cam is super powerful, but some curious choices overall for sure. Excited to let you try out Kino 1.1 with some extra controls :)
Not being able to shoot in Log unless using ProRes is 1000% the worst thing about this app.
Blah blah blah, there’s always people who liked to complain things
@@clafflin493bro, he’s 100% right. It’s not saying that the app is lame, but compared to the Blackmagic App, this one is an absolute no go for me just because of that
I’m not a « pro » film-maker, I’m just a curious guy who loves learning and there’s no way I buy a 100€ SSD that I’ll always have to plug/rig to my iPhone so I can record family vlogs and videos of my kids
thats why blackmagic camera app >> final cut camera app
@@clafflin493 blah blah blah there's always people willing to look past Apple's flaws
What other codecs support Log that run on iOS?
Eh, its free, so why not download it, I don't think it comes close to BMCA though.
Need to be able to load my own preview LUT's, anamorphic desqueeze etc.
I think the multi-cam looks cool.
The REAL question is which app will Apple use for their next event (given that it seems that they are going to continue using iPhones for all events)?
I think the multicam thing is a great start… I wish apple would allows to stream directly from the Final Cut app to the social media of our choice using the ipad as a switcher and editing app at the same time. I would subscribe that app immediately
Still blackmagic camera app is the boss 🔥
Any idea if it is 8 bit or 10 bit - Obviously Prores will be 10 bit, just wondering about the other settings...
Hey how to sync 3 smartphone videos shot with different angles. How to sync those 3 smartphone videos in DaVinci Resolve or any other editing software.
For the life of me, I could not get any other camera to connect to my brand new iPad. I had everything set up correctly with wifi and bluetooth, everyone was logged into an Apple ID, and it still would not work. One iPhone could see my iPad and could even start the connection process where he had to put in the share code, while the other just could not see my iPad at all. All were on the same wifi. I restarted the iPad and the iPhones, restarted the app and still nothing worked. It was extremely frustrating.
The zoom is badazz🎉is the Kondor blue hub going to work w the atomos ninja w bm app to record to the ninja?Thank You
This would all make more sense as a tab in the native camera app. If I want more sophisticated camera controls, I can think of at least two camera apps that run circles around this app.
The only thing I’m not happy is the settings. Not really user friendly. Hope they will improve in the next updates.
HELLO bro please Can you make a video about your lightning style ?
I love it and i will like to know how you set up your lightning.
Thanks 🙏
still no 50 fps recording.. its a shame :(
I like how it works on many devices, like how i put it on my 12 mini, but it really is barebones app wise. Also i was thrown off by the phone name cause i really thought that was an iphone xr. So when i saw prores log on i was freaking out, but no it's just the phones name lol
nice and quick turnaround on the video!!!
I'm in the category of the last user you mentioned. have been working on some talking head videos with myself or with friends and at first just used the FaceTime camera. then used Orion on my M4 iPad to use it as a monitor but was kind of a pain...but as a basic wireless monitor that can control the iPhone using that back lenses.... *chef's kiss*
Can you save media to external SSD?
Yes, you can
Nice and fair review. I think the Blackmagic Design iPhone app is still better at this point. I do like the multi-cam feature of the Final Cut Camera though.
If they can simply add cinematic mode on it, it would be an actual pro camera app. Cmon now!
I really wanted this app to be a replacement for mirrorless and r dslr dept of field effect!
Agreed, also allowing Apple LOG color profile.
I downloaded this app on my iPhone 13 Pro Max and it will not let me record in ProRes. I get a notification saying "ProRes 3840 x 2160 at 30 fps is only supported when your device has a minimum storage capacity of 256GB or when recording to external storage" I currently have plenty of space on my phone so this is kind of disappointing.
If you have the 128GB phone yes they throttle its camera ability sadly.
I really hope they add Cinematic mode into Final Cut Camera.
I think people reviewing Apple products often don't understand the company very well.
Apple isn't trying to compete with Blackmagic...they've intentionally given them a particular lane on the platform which is mutually beneficial for both companies. If they wanted to Sherlock Blackmagic or Mavis or any of the other camera apps they certainly could.
So why aren't they? That's the question you all need to answer rather than "why didn't Apple do....?"
Apple is all about the ecosystem and they tend to roll out capacity over time rather than frontl oading everything, all at once. Most advanced professionals (people who make films/TV/Streaming) are (probably)not going to use this at all (yet).
But there are a lot of folks who are also professionals (TH-camrs, skilled enthusiasts, independent media) who are in Apple's ecosystem who now have one more reason to stay and maybe even double down. Someone who was perfectly content with their pre-M iPad and who makes content suddenly has a compelling reason to upgrade.
The multicam is perfect for BTS and on location (indoor) set ups (like conventions and tech shows) and for video podcasts.
It does a good job of putting a very advanced workflow at the fingertips of folks who either don't want the hassle of setting something like this up or who don't yet know how or who don't have two or three of the same camera. There are number of ways to get a multicam view but almost nothing is as simple as this.
Yes, I realize this is the "standalone" app review. But here in lies the misunderstanding. Apple doesn't see this as a standalone app for people shoot, record, and edit as usual. They're building a Final Cut infrastructure/ecosystem and if they don't abandon it, may result in more buy-in for their products/philosophy...which Hotel California-esque, all the time.
Apple's "Pro" moniker is at least somewhat about flattery: it can make people feel more skilled (or powerful) than they maybe are at the moment.
Apple doesn't get everything right all the time but they have been consistently strategic about stuff like this. And their vision of "pro" has always been to simplify what is (needlessly) complex. Sometimes they're right, sometimes they're wrong. But that's their culture.
I feel like the black magic cam app is still 👑
Just some thoughts on the multi cam app. They really should have a single button to match all cameras to a given device, and if any camera can't match then warn which device didn't match and how. That way if one is using a bunch of different iPhones they can match to the weakest option easily without having to tinker around with a bunch of cameras only to find the last one is the weakest link and having to go back and readjust all the others to match. Secondly they need to not only fix the rang issue, but figure out a way to remote join a camera from a different internet location otherwise this is just a very limited and cheesy option and not very pro at all.
Great overview and thoughts….it is very interesting too
Is it worth it to get the 15 pro this summer and film all my travels (upgrading from 12 pro max ) I have a carrier upgrade, and would like to use it with a cage from small rig and my older lenses a couple moment lenses and 37mm lenses or I can wait for the 16 and then also wait for the new cage and adapters and cases etc so I’m assuming I won’t be able to get it until 6 months from now in December.
Could there be a case for the 15 pro now and have 6 months of experience with the phone or is it better to just sit and wait and see what they got in the meantime and just get the 16 instead? Thanks in advance,much love from fleetwood bc
Wait for the 16- apple might make h265 log footage available for the 16 but not 15!
@@Jeevanmn wow that is amazing
Wait until after sept 10th 2024 to get the iPhone 16. Not much longer and well worth waiting for. No matter what the specs will be, they will be improved upon what we have now.
@@mossybank2000 u the best thank you
I feel this is an unfair review. Continuity camera is what they’re using. It’s been well documented to be a 20-30 foot range on Mac for years now. I feel you wanted black magic camera which is free or p3 camera which is paid.
The multicam connection relies on WiFi and Bluetooth. That’s why it wouldn’t connect when further away
Why the multi cam option only on ipad why not on mac?!
im surprised you didn’t speak about LAN
I used the Blackmagic app while on a trip to Portugal and when I get back 3/4 of the the video clips have no sound
Luckily that was a secondary as brought my BMPCC6k as primary and used iPhone for all backup shots
We’re you shooting in O/S (off speed) slow motion mode. That has no sound to it.
Yes I was using off speed. Never thought to test it before hand. Just thought it would work the same way as the BMPCC6K
Thanks for the help!!
Yeah I always feel spoiled that the pocket cameras still record real time audio so you can align it later in post if desired. But yes the app sadly does not have the same ability.
The years I’ve been waiting for one or two button multi-cam I’m sure I’ll manage with one room. Good quality live wireless video isn’t that easy to do.
How do you take a pic is it only rec ?
It has 1080 at 24fps. Not sure why the iPhone camera app is only 30. I will probably use the new app from time to time.
I would have used this strictly for the monitor capabilities if it weren't for the fact that FCP on the iPad is a subscription.
Tim Cook: We need a professional camera app!! Just half assed it guys , people will still love what we made. They always love Apple things.
why I dont have the log option when tapping on hdr?
Are you filming on a iPhone 15 pro? If not you don’t have Apple LOG. hdr on iPhone is just DolbyVision
@@initialfocus yeap sir..got it now..cant use log in hevc codec..opened up when switched to prores
Finally. Thank you Apple. But I feel sorry for the other Pro vdo apps. They have all just been Sherlocked !
It’s literally the first version on day 1 release and people are crying about it and trying to compare it to a product that came out at least a year ago and has had many updates.
I'll stick with Blackmagic as I do all my editing, color, VFX and sound in DaVinci Resolve
Thank you for the review...
If you don't need multicam, using this app is hard to justify given the very strong free competition.
Other than using the app for multicam I’ll continue to use the best camera app - the Blackmagic Camera App!
I want video pause button when vlogging videos
Thank you for interesting video
Apple totally missed it on this app. Can’t connect mic via Bluetooth. No flash. Zoom is super grainy in low light. Doesn’t switch lens’s while zooming.
It’s weird the Apple understanding of what Pro needs!
nice Multicam features but still no manual iso and time controls ;(
It has manual iso. Showed it in the video.
@@initialfocus oh I've missed it. You're right, there is manual iso :D Thank you for answear
@@initialfocus Perhaps this is an example of one of the interface issues. ISO and Shutter speed are buried compared to Blackmagic.
Yup, the “pro” controls take too many taps to get to
I was just disappointed. The only advanced thing this app has is the native iphone stabilisation.
No log for hevc.
No 60fps in log without external drive.
Hmmm... So, I am staying with Blackmagic 😅
Good for you,why are you Disappointed if you have another option?
@@mosijahi3096 i was looking forward for the stabilisation as BMC could not access iphone native stabilisation.
Hey man, thanks I give you a thumbs up😅 👍 I agree with you about black magic app , at least for iPhone, I’m not professional, but I can take good pictures and videos 😊
Some people are going to be hard to satisfied 😂 it is free and it is in first few days
lol u right sometimes free isn’t good enough 😂😂
Good job🎉
Thanks 🙌🏼
shots fired and missed, BMCA
😊
Your take is narrow. Only a tiny percentage use this for podcasting. Think bigger-life events like graduations and weddings, or even sharing video from network cameras on Apple's Final Cut app with production crews. Apple's design reaches the masses. The number of people attending these events far outweighs podcast creators. Broaden your scope, man. It's clear you're biased-possibly sponsored by Blackmagic or a fan. As a channel host, you should know how few people use Blackmagic compared to Apple. I own both, and I'm the only one I know who does. As fun as it is to watch you talk with the same background every video, you need to quit being so freaking lazy and actually show, gear in action. I just watched three or four videos where people seem to be working together with literally no issue at all like the ones you described. So that I have visual evidence, for you I have a hearsay story about you and your wife upstairs. Step it up, dude. The most impressive thing I ever see you do is make cages that you don’t look strong enough to carry.
Nope
*As usual, this app won't work with my excellent camera and 8K resolution Android Galaxy S22 phone. Typical Apple only app. Sorry, but I down have 4 iPhone 15 Ultras. I do have an iPadPro.*
but final cut is an apple brand, why would they launch it for Android?
@@matheussp13i hope he’s just trolling
Trash Samsung 😂
Isn't this a bit like complaining about the fact that *DeX* hasn't been released on iOS?!
If this is not the dumbest comment I’ve seen. Did you actually “think” before you wrote this? 🤔
I like being able to manually focus.