Not to comment on the ad instead of the feature, but that Anker battery is my go to when I’m doing live streams at work to power my laptop and directly power my camera. Works great.
Thanks for great discussion. And you did answer the obvious question “What is the reason behind why this doesn’t exist in the Final Cut Pro version for Macintosh?”. It will likely come later to keep the two versions in sync.
This review certainly helps in terms of giving a good first look at it while I didn’t have had time to tinker with it myself yet. But the main questions on my mind didn’t get answered unfortunately: A) Is the iPad Pro M1 sufficient or does it need to be at least an M2 version? B) Since all devices need to share the same WiFi, can this work in the middle of a forest so they feast off each other rather than a base station? C) What’s the oldest iPhone that still works and with what maximum resolution and fps? Like in my case, I still have two iPhone X and would love to know whether they still have some value here? I’m not even talking about the official requirements and recommendations but real life experience what does and does not work and what might just work so-so in terms of being able to utilize older hardware.
Cool, thanks for this! What if one wants to adjust the input volume? I may be buying some (inexpensive) wireless lav mics. But if the talent is yelling, for instance, the audio would distort.
So, to be clear, to use the multicam feature the host needs to be an iPad running Final Cut Pro 2 and NOT the Final Cut Camera app? I haven't bought into the FCP subscription at this point, but after fussing with the camera app on multiple phones I gathered this may be the case. Also, can I hotspot a personal WiFi network from one of my devices to connect them all? Thanks
I was hoping for live switching too [hey, Apple, suggestion for a quick workaround: how about the ability to tap to add a mark to the active track, to speed up final render later?] but I get it: this is NOT for the Jordan Drakes of the world. It's for people who can get pretty good video with one iPhone, and would like to make multi-angle videos without having to add a lot of expensive hardware or learn a lot of nerdy stuff. For them, this new capability is, if not a home run, a solid triple. What really caught my attention is other than the wide-angle distortion (which is Chris's fault for not having a bigger house) the finished segment looked really polished.
This was so great and in depth. Let’s hope they bring live switching to this! Also I wonder how easy it is to edit the resulting multicam clips in premiere or avid - can you just export them as normal? One of the big pain points with iPhone / iPad is slowwwww usb. I have a 2021 iPad Pro and a 2023 iPhone 14 Pro Max and they crawllll over usb / thunderbolt for transferring files :)
@@PetaPixel Thanks....solution seems to have potential, but like you stated it would be nice if it ran on the Mac as well. I wonder if it will work with my first gen iPad pro and my "ancient" iphone 8.
Thanks for this overview! A little disappointed that FCP does not support live switching. I’ll stay with Ecamm Live for live switching with 4K recording. Mac only app. It is live streaming software, but I find the recording feature more useful. Also connects IOS devices wirelessly: th-cam.com/video/1gvojuqRazU/w-d-xo.htmlsi=e_zVx49oa2Qp9yEp
Where is the Pro PHOTO app? Far more people use their iPhones for photos instead of videos. It's pathetic that every other premium smartphone has pro camera capabilities except the iPhone. Time to switch to the Xperia 1 VI.
I use OBS to run live-streaming at work, so I'll tell you. Like Chris said, they're entirely different systems. OBS is for live streaming and switching in real time. FCP multicam is for recording multi-angle video to be edited later. (You can record an OBS stream, but you can't save all the camera angles, only the final output, so you can't change your mind later about which shot to use.) Also, while OBS works with lots of different kinds of video input devices, setup is not for the faint-hearted. FCP multicam works wirelessly and the only setup you have to do is launch the camera apps and FCP. It should be great for casual ad-hoc setups to be edited into final videos later, while OBS continues to be a great solution if you are hard-wiring a studio to stream content onto Twitch, TH-cam, etc.
Bonus fun fact since I was just playing around with OBS: If you want to stream or record basic two-angle videos, you can do it with a recent desktop or laptop Mac running OBS, a recent iPhone, and nothing else! You can use your Mac's webcam as one OBS video source (say, a shot of you explaining) and your iPhone as another OBS video source using the MacOS/iOS "continuity camera" feature (say, an overhead shot of your desk, kitchen counter or workbench where you're demonstrating something.) This is less than half the capability Apple is offering with FCP on iPad -- you're only capturing two cameras and you can't adjust them remotely and stuff -- but for people wishing they could use a desktop/laptop Mac instead of an iPad and want live switching rather later editing, it would be a zero-extra-cost solution that's pretty easy to set up. My dream: Apple will publish an API for Final Cut Camera and somebody will write an OBS plug-in to access it so you'll be able to do live-switched multicam stuff off a laptop from within OBS...
@@Your_Paramour I found a third-party plugin called Source Record that implements as a filter and records one source, but haven't tried it because: (1) it's at version 0.3.4; (2) it hasn't been updated since May 2021; (3) installation seems a bit janky and (4) reviews on the page lean toward "useful but not very stable." Maybe there are some other/better ones (pointers anyone?) but if your goal is to record multiple camera views and combine them later in a polished edit, I still think FCP or another multicam-capable editor would be a more reliable approach.
Yeah yeah, you got your obligatory soapbox moment in about an unrelated product good job big guy. Htf is a battery bank with no network access going to do anything
Without having it live switch I don't see many benefits to this other than using phones as cameras for easy setup...which you could already do by syncing and cutting after the fact.
I was excited until I realized my ipad pro 4th gen isnt supported for final cut. apparently the 11 inch is... but not the 12.9 inch. interesting choice. software looks super neat.
I love seeing their 9 foot long arms and legs on the ultrawide living room cam. Epic.
my GOD.
Seriously, from a professional camera review site, these lens choices are comical
Not to comment on the ad instead of the feature, but that Anker battery is my go to when I’m doing live streams at work to power my laptop and directly power my camera. Works great.
I used it at WWDC this year as my main battery bank and it really is fantastic. Used it at the airport and on the plane. Loved it.
Dear Apple...NOW would be a GREAT time to bring back "APERTURE"...please and thank you!
yes please, I was never happier than when using Aperture with Nik plugins 👍
Given Adobe's recent bullshit terms of agreement update, now would be the perfect time to bring back Aperture.
Ouch, hearing that the iPhone Xs is an old phone hurts me and my iPhone 7 😂
🤣 man you have a strong will to resits all this shanny new toys
Imagine if Apple made a pro photo editing app 😢😢😢
No live switching? Only Apple would think of a way to nerf a perfectly common use case.
Thanks for great discussion. And you did answer the obvious question “What is the reason behind why this doesn’t exist in the Final Cut Pro version for Macintosh?”. It will likely come later to keep the two versions in sync.
I hope this comes to Resolve eventually
No live switching is a deal breaker. Huge oversight. I suppose it'll be in a future updates.
Yeah. I want this to simplify my life. Otherwise I won't use it.
This review certainly helps in terms of giving a good first look at it while I didn’t have had time to tinker with it myself yet. But the main questions on my mind didn’t get answered unfortunately:
A) Is the iPad Pro M1 sufficient or does it need to be at least an M2 version?
B) Since all devices need to share the same WiFi, can this work in the middle of a forest so they feast off each other rather than a base station?
C) What’s the oldest iPhone that still works and with what maximum resolution and fps? Like in my case, I still have two iPhone X and would love to know whether they still have some value here?
I’m not even talking about the official requirements and recommendations but real life experience what does and does not work and what might just work so-so in terms of being able to utilize older hardware.
This is honestly the worst-looking Petapixel video of all times... It looks like something from a nightmarish-David Lynchian teleshopping channel.
Cool, thanks for this! What if one wants to adjust the input volume? I may be buying some (inexpensive) wireless lav mics. But if the talent is yelling, for instance, the audio would distort.
I have an old XR lying around and it would be good to put it to use as a different camera angle. Cool feature.
So, to be clear, to use the multicam feature the host needs to be an iPad running Final Cut Pro 2 and NOT the Final Cut Camera app? I haven't bought into the FCP subscription at this point, but after fussing with the camera app on multiple phones I gathered this may be the case. Also, can I hotspot a personal WiFi network from one of my devices to connect them all? Thanks
I was hoping for live switching too [hey, Apple, suggestion for a quick workaround: how about the ability to tap to add a mark to the active track, to speed up final render later?] but I get it: this is NOT for the Jordan Drakes of the world. It's for people who can get pretty good video with one iPhone, and would like to make multi-angle videos without having to add a lot of expensive hardware or learn a lot of nerdy stuff. For them, this new capability is, if not a home run, a solid triple. What really caught my attention is other than the wide-angle distortion (which is Chris's fault for not having a bigger house) the finished segment looked really polished.
their arms are freaking me out
honestly, setting up a couple camcorders into an atem mini is as much work and will still look better.
The Mevo App can use iPhones/iPads as cameras, but it requires a subscription...
Did you use iPhones with different Apple IDs? I thought I saw something that it was restricted to devices with the same Apple ID?
No, according to the help docs they each have to be logged in to SOME AppleID, but not the SAME AppleID.
@@jlwilliams Awesome!
This was so great and in depth. Let’s hope they bring live switching to this! Also I wonder how easy it is to edit the resulting multicam clips in premiere or avid - can you just export them as normal? One of the big pain points with iPhone / iPad is slowwwww usb. I have a 2021 iPad Pro and a 2023 iPhone 14 Pro Max and they crawllll over usb / thunderbolt for transferring files :)
I might have missed it but how are the cameras connected to the iPad??? Via Wifi or wired?
It's wireless! It uses WiFi, apologies for not mentioning that part.
@@PetaPixel Thanks....solution seems to have potential, but like you stated it would be nice if it ran on the Mac as well. I wonder if it will work with my first gen iPad pro and my "ancient" iphone 8.
Thanks for this overview! A little disappointed that FCP does not support live switching. I’ll stay with Ecamm Live for live switching with 4K recording. Mac only app. It is live streaming software, but I find the recording feature more useful.
Also connects IOS devices wirelessly: th-cam.com/video/1gvojuqRazU/w-d-xo.htmlsi=e_zVx49oa2Qp9yEp
Sorry if I missed it in the video, but is the audio from the iPhone mics? Or were you using other mics?
Thanks 🙏
Having video cams and a switcher would actually be better than this substitute studio.
Yes, and having a private jet would actually be better than my 15-year-old Honda, but there's a certain cost factor to account for as well...
Awesome :)
ok, now I know why the audio is so weird :P
A WHOLE lot of commercials disquist as a Apple item.......
I wonder if Blackmagic will add all these “duh” features before Apple?
Where is the Pro PHOTO app? Far more people use their iPhones for photos instead of videos. It's pathetic that every other premium smartphone has pro camera capabilities except the iPhone. Time to switch to the Xperia 1 VI.
is the final cut camera app released yet?
Released today: apps.apple.com/us/app/final-cut-camera/id6469552837
@@PetaPixel yay, thanks
how is it better than obs?
Why don’t you tell us?
I use OBS to run live-streaming at work, so I'll tell you. Like Chris said, they're entirely different systems. OBS is for live streaming and switching in real time. FCP multicam is for recording multi-angle video to be edited later. (You can record an OBS stream, but you can't save all the camera angles, only the final output, so you can't change your mind later about which shot to use.) Also, while OBS works with lots of different kinds of video input devices, setup is not for the faint-hearted. FCP multicam works wirelessly and the only setup you have to do is launch the camera apps and FCP. It should be great for casual ad-hoc setups to be edited into final videos later, while OBS continues to be a great solution if you are hard-wiring a studio to stream content onto Twitch, TH-cam, etc.
Bonus fun fact since I was just playing around with OBS: If you want to stream or record basic two-angle videos, you can do it with a recent desktop or laptop Mac running OBS, a recent iPhone, and nothing else! You can use your Mac's webcam as one OBS video source (say, a shot of you explaining) and your iPhone as another OBS video source using the MacOS/iOS "continuity camera" feature (say, an overhead shot of your desk, kitchen counter or workbench where you're demonstrating something.) This is less than half the capability Apple is offering with FCP on iPad -- you're only capturing two cameras and you can't adjust them remotely and stuff -- but for people wishing they could use a desktop/laptop Mac instead of an iPad and want live switching rather later editing, it would be a zero-extra-cost solution that's pretty easy to set up.
My dream: Apple will publish an API for Final Cut Camera and somebody will write an OBS plug-in to access it so you'll be able to do live-switched multicam stuff off a laptop from within OBS...
@@jlwilliams Aren't there some plugins for OBS that will let you record from one of the sources (instead of just the final output)?
@@Your_Paramour I found a third-party plugin called Source Record that implements as a filter and records one source, but haven't tried it because: (1) it's at version 0.3.4; (2) it hasn't been updated since May 2021; (3) installation seems a bit janky and (4) reviews on the page lean toward "useful but not very stable." Maybe there are some other/better ones (pointers anyone?) but if your goal is to record multiple camera views and combine them later in a polished edit, I still think FCP or another multicam-capable editor would be a more reliable approach.
so it's called "pro camera" but cannot take photogrphs? Which is waht a "camera" is intended to do LOL. you iphone people are nuts.
Is that Anker FAA legal? And will it record us and send our info to the CCP despite saying they wont like with their doorbell cams?
The Anker is only 28000 mAhr (140Whr @ 5V). The FAA limit is 160WHr.
Yeah yeah, you got your obligatory soapbox moment in about an unrelated product good job big guy. Htf is a battery bank with no network access going to do anything
@@POVwithRC just getting the word out, not everyone knows how scummy Anker is
i farted into a lantern.
that's so hot
Explosive.
Triangle
@@Iamtongue shave it
This footage looks awful.
Did you see the new Pentax laptop?
1 view in 17 seconds? You guys are falling off 😢
😂 🥇
This always makes me laugh and I don’t know why lol
@@virtualfilmer Young at heart?
Hmm. Frankly? This video looks quite ugly. I'm not buying this.
First
Actually, you’re second 😄. Don’t forget your medal: 🥈.
Log is only available when using Prores, not HEVC. 60 fps prores is only available when using an external drive.
Without having it live switch I don't see many benefits to this other than using phones as cameras for easy setup...which you could already do by syncing and cutting after the fact.
This is way more comprehensive than I thought it was going to be.
Can you use your MAC or Macbook to view the final cut camera? Use it as a viewfinder as such?
I was excited until I realized my ipad pro 4th gen isnt supported for final cut. apparently the 11 inch is... but not the 12.9 inch. interesting choice. software looks super neat.
Is possible to use it on Zoom? Output as Webcam?
Great episode and YES I own ANKER products, highly recommend their batteries!
I have a cracked glass Xs Plus and this is fantastic I will be able to put it to use again.
That’s not a thing
Such a shame you can't do it realtime
What are the options for storage?
Anyone know if there’s a limit to how many iPhone cameras you can use?
4 cameras max
@@PetaPixel aww i hope they add more. As someone that does music videos i would love to do a 360 rig with iphones
I don’t understand what feature they’re talking about ? ? ?
Does the 179 Degree trick work on the GH7 as well for auto focus?
Can I use this and bring the video into Resolve?
this is super cool - thanks
Do you guys travel ith your phone or dedicated camera too?
no, they leave their phones at home
Final Cut is horrible, and even worse on the iPad. I will take most anything else now a days.