I do not blame Homer for Maude's death, he just bent down at the wrong moment, but I blame the people firing T-shirts, they could have easily hit anybody, they could have hit a child, I think Ned Flanders should sue them because they technically killed his wife.
There is the really adorable episode “Moe’s Baby Blues,” where Moe finally gains some appreciation after unintentionally saving Maggie’s life and starts to bond with her by becoming her babysitter.
The episode where Homer's mother died in season 19. Maybe it's more sad than dark, but I remember watching it as a kid and having to turn the episode off when Homer found his mother's body.
Agreed. The fact I couldn't sit through more than 7 minutes of this episode makes it take the cake. I've still to this day not seen the remaining two-thirds of the episode.
The rest of the episode is a spy parody, Homer is told where he has to spread her ashes only to find out she planned it so when her ashes were spread it would block off the ventilation to a secret base run by Mr Burns who’s harming the environment and then The Simpson’s break in and shut it down to fulfil her final wish
@@AnalyticalMenace Actually. Her actor left. Thats why she was killed off. She eventually came back but it was already past her character's death soo...
@@thunderbolt8541 Well you say she left, but really she was fired for complaining about how far she had to travel to record her lines when they wouldn't increase her pay to compensate.
I genuinely hate that Moe episode so much. Letting Moe finally get to be happy, only to rip it away so unceremoniously and with such cruelty...just sat so wrong with me. It's not like they haven't changed the status quo throughout the history of the show, they actually do it quite often, like Ned and Edna falling in love, The Simpsons getting a dog, Apu getting married and having children, ect. There's no reason they can't make Moe even the tiniest bit less miserable, honestly. Also, the subplot really got to me as well. I genuinely couldn't even watch it, it made me feel physically ill.
"Mona Leaves-a" is, in my opinion, the darkest most depressing episode of the show. For those who haven't seen it: Homer's mother returns AGAIN, and Homer becomes really spiteful to his mother for constantly coming and running again, and rejects her presence. He is REALLY nasty to his mother and says some really cutting remarks to her. That night, he feels bad for what he said, and goes downstairs to make amends.... only to find out his mother died in the night. We are 7 minutes into the episode. I couldn't watch the rest. For the fact I had to stop watching after the first act of the episode because it was too dark and upsetting, this episode takes the cake. UPDATE: Several people have told me to watch the rest of the episode, so after all these years I finally did. I cried through most of the rest of it, simply because that gut-punch at the one-third mark is so massive. I do not cry easily, either. When a close friend of mine died earlier this year of an illness, not even that made me cry (although it was really upsetting and I came close at times, especially when I had dreams that he didn't really die and we reunited). I've seen the rest now, and I can still say it is one of the most depressing things I've seen on television I never want to watch this episode again.
I was on homer side during that episode cuz really she never been a mother to him. She comes and goes, dealing more damage to her son. She never deserves his love cuz he was raised by his father. I didn’t find it upsetting at all and hate the slap on forgiveness lesson. A mother like that really shouldn’t be forgiven. All she did is give birth to him. That was it. I actually laugh when she died. Not all mothers should be forgiven or even be called mothers
Yeah Homer was mad at his mother but I'd say the reasoning is a good one. His mother literally abandons her family to evade law enforcement for being involved in that one crime. By the way in that episode you mentioned, his mother literally used her death to get Homer to get revenge on Mr. Burns for her. Her love for Homer, at least in that episode, is not very genuine.
If it helps I did see the whole episode. The story basically revolves around Homer trying to honor his mother’s last request, which leads to these trials that Homer and the family have to overcome to do it. And the ending is pretty sweet and satisfying. If you ever happen to see it on TV and it’s already past like the first 10 minutes, I’d watch it.
It disgusts me how the modern episodes just completely ruin any character whenever the feel like it and how Moe can't just be happy. He's not the best person but he's not the worst either.
I don't think it's that Moe can't be happy, but he clearly suffers from some pretty severe depression. Just being happy isn't exactly a thing in his case. Though, it would be nice for him to get a little character development. He can suffer depression and have a girlfriend.
And even when they actually let a character change, they really don't. Barney giving up alcohol? Well, since he still looks the same, talks the same and spends all day, every day at the bar...I'd say nothing has actually changed. It's just the status quo in disguise.
The great thing about “Flanders Ladder” is that there’s continuity with other episodes When Bart dies you can see him in a Supreme Court judge outfit In earlier future episodes you can see Bart talking about how he’s working on demolition to clear out all his anger until he goes to law school, in a later episode, you can see him with Abraham asking for an Elderly Citizen Ticket and a Supreme Court ticket for them.
“Lisa the Drama Queen” is also notable for being the final episode of The Simpsons to be produced in 4x3, as the show switched over to widescreen high definition with the following episode, “Take My Life, Please”. What an insane note to end the “classic” era of The Simpsons on.
That scene where it shows the death of all of the characters looks like a direct nod to the ending of the series "Six Feet Under". The series ended the same way and used the white background with black letters format. Great show, and the best ending of a show I've ever seen.
@@phantomstrider If you do that video, you'd had to change the criteria for what counts as modern. When the "Modern Simpsons" era is now more than doubled the run of the other era, that doesn't really feel right.
I’ll defend boys in bummer as it is an accurate representation of backlash an athlete can get from making a critical mistake in a game and costing the team the game and how he can be bumbarded with hate from everywhere he would go in his hometown to the point of damaging his mental health, I can see how you may not like the episode cause it’s not a very funny episode but I disagree with you saying it’s bad writing
Yo does anyone remember that episode when homer has flashbacks of when he found a dead body in a lake when he is with Carl and Lenny when he was younger and it has worms coming out the nose. That scared me so much when i was younger
I liked that episode, but god that corpse was gross, for many years I just had to look other way at that moment. I have a very awkward relation with dead.
Maldon 365 Oh yeah, Postcards from the Wedge, I remember that episode. That wasn’t a great episode but I will give it Credit saying as though Bart at least gets consequences at the end for what he does
@@maldon3659 Bart plays his parents against one another so he doesn't have to do homework,and when he realises his parents doesn't care about what he does,he turns on Springfield's old subway,and sends them a note where "Lisa" says he'll destroy the school with it.
Lucky. The simpsons used to come on for a solid hour, everyday on channel 5 for me. Now I gotta walk my ass all the way to fox hd or whatever they call it for anything
@@neonflights5951 They come on the occasional weekdays on RTE 2 when they feel the need to actually air it sometimes. But it's mostly episodes from Season 5-14.
Rest in peace to her, but those that said that Martin Prince died in the Google search suggestions need to rethink how animation works. Plenty of Simpsons' voice cast have given into doing a voice for Martin, and if things continue out with Simpsons and Martin wouldn't die, Martin would likely be voiced by Nancy Cartwright for a time being
@@83MichaelMyers Honestly, I hope the Simpsons will end with a high note. Bring back some of the older writers for the last season and give it another movie.
the problem with the Simpsons and dealing with serious mental health issues they make fun of it rather than give people who have mental health issues a reason to be positive.
My explanation for why Nelson helps in Dial N for Nerder is because, he cares for Martin’s well being and shows his friendship through bullying (that makes no sense but we’ll roll with it.) and Martin doesn’t realize it.
I always thought "It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad Marge" was fairly dark as well. In that one, Marge becomes convinced that Otto's girlfriend is trying to take over her life and plotting to kill her. Everyone else believes it's all in Marge's head, so you can guess where the plot goes.
By the way, this is an amazing list! I am binge-watching this show and am in the middle of season 19. In fact, last night I watched "Dial N for Nerder" and stumbled upon this particular list a few minutes ago. I also just saw the episode where the town berates Bart for his baseball failures. I have always loved when light-hearted shows explore darker territory so it is good to know there are plenty more dark episodes to look forward to in the future.
I believe in the theory that almost every episode of the simpsons is a different universe set on the same timeline so basically we se the same day in different universes even when they mention stuff from older episodes or even ones set in the future.
I didn't care for the ending of "Lisa the Drama Queen", especially as there is a REASON why Juliet acts like that: her dad. She needed a friend to keep her GROUNDED. But honestly, "Diggs" did this type of story much better, even if it didn't have a happy ending.
The strange thing about the Simpsons is the way they can include so many non-stop references and iconic scenes, every cliche and parody you could think of, and some of the content is *so familiar* but you can't figure out *why* it is familiar
I always enjoy you doing these lists and I wonder a suggestion you can do the lightest/Happiest Moments in Cartoons it would be nice to see what are your thoughts on Best and Happiest moments have a nice day, Josh!^-^
Something that makes Co Dependents Day even worse is Homer didn’t only frame Marge for drunk driving … he also gaslit her into thinking that she actually did drunk drive and she didn’t remember
My only question is how is The Simpsons still making enough money to bother being renewed each year? I have literally never seen a single piece of merchandise for the show in any offline store since at least 2008. I remember seeing Bart on a Hot Topic shirt or two but now I don’t even see references to the show places like there. Is it the fact it holds a record for how long this style has been around because I honestly want to know what’s going on here.
It still pulls in a comfy 1.2 million in the ratings every season if I remember right.. Which is still far lower than the 5-7 million under season 10 used to achieve, but still among the biggest numbers of fox shows.
Christopher CAMILLERI. In dollars? That doesn’t sound like much , idk correct me if I’m wrong but I thought all the actors and people working on the show would be getting paid more than that it total
While I don't quite remember Lisa the Drama Queen, I do recall the theme of one becoming lost in their fantasies being done in another story; Don Quixote. I agree that one shouldn't let themselves become too wound up in their fantasy worlds. But with the real world being in such a poor state, social disarray/distrust being at an all-time high and things becoming increasingly darker as of late (in a moral sense.) The sad truth is, more and more people will be turning towards escapism to find THEIR version of happiness; unless things start changing. As for me, I LOVE fantasy and have even created my own world called Overon in my books. But I practice escapism the way Tolkien or C.S. Lewis once did, long ago. I don't go wandering off into a ramshackle building thinking it's a palace. I go into my room, put on some Blackmore's Night or Dubliners music and imagine myself within Overon. As ironic as it sounds, this practice helps inspire me to create my stories
@HanHanPlayz *wide eyed* Betrayal? Seriously though, I saw that episode, and you have a great point. If that was me, nearly being posted to faraway places by someone I liked, I'd feel betrayed.
@@Aghaudunfel The episode where Bart was a drummer was titled "Jazzy and the Pussycats". That was also the episode where Lisa opened an animal sanctuary.
It would be better if you stopped making me guilty for liking Family Guy thank you very much Strider. I know you hate it but there are others who do. Everytime you keep showing an out of context Family Guy scene and it makes me sad because there is some good aspects with the show. Please, if you are reading this, respect my opinion. I respect yours. If anybody else is reading then respect my opinion too.
I don't know why but for some reason, seeing Strider juggling at the end of every video makes me smile. Like it doesn't really have anything to do with the reviews, but him incorporating something he does that makes him happy in his video just seems nice to me :)
Too early. Lisa The Drama Queen aired in January 2009. MLP G4 began in October 2010. So while it is a bit of a funny coincidence I noticed, it IS just a coincidence.
I really identify with Juliet from Lisa the drama queen; feeling outcast by her father and family traditions and escaping into fantasy as a means to cope.
It feels like Lisa seems to have a lot more dark intentions than Bart because she tried to make Bart suffer with nightmares just because he posted some dumb picture of her, and she also tried to keep the “murder” of Martin hidden so she wouldn’t go to jail.
Excellent list! Although it's not a modern episode, I've always felt that "Homer's Enemy" was one of the darkest episodes they've ever done as many of us could relate to being Frank Grimes in a way
After watching this; I went and checked out Flanders' Ladder; and I have never cried so much to a Simpsons episode since the death of Homer's Mother. Edit: and also Maude's death.
Just saying, I think the darkest episode of the Simpsons is actually Homer's Enemy from Season 9 when Homer drives someone so insane that he kills himself and turns his funeral into a joke.
The death of every character as shown in the last episode mentioned still touches me today. But where I always have to smile is when I see Bart being a judge. Taking up on that old joke from the first or second season where Homer wouldn't allow Bart to see the Itchy and Scratchy movie and at the end of the episode where they flashforward to Bart being a judge and watching the movie with his father. I really like that they referenced it. Not only for the reference sake but also because it shows: as much as they love to make fun of Bart being not very keen on education they show that he eventually turns out well though. And that's what I love about this scene so much.
I love your Simpsons related videos, Strider. I was wondering if you’d ever consider doing a top ten Most Heartfelt Simpson’s moments. I can think of at least two that deserve to be on that list. Keep up the awesome work you do on this channel.
A lot of the reason's for Lisa's decline probably have something to do with the way this guy can't seem to comprehend why Lisa could be anything less than a perfect angel and how Bart could be anything less than a literal psychopath.
I have mixed feelings about the moe suicide jokes, as a suicidal person as well. I make alot of jokes but that's how I deal with my issues but I don't appreciate the negative portrayal of our struggles
20:50 ah, you too? (Slight warning) I struggle to come to terms with mortality in general as well. Makes sense, I'm 20. But I came face to face with the possibility of my death at around age 12, when I considered taking my life due to being bullied in middle school and having to deal with the consequences of my dad unknowingly marrying a very abusive and manipulative woman. I absolutely did not go through with it, and to to this day I think about that (and one other moment from last year when I almost tried again) a lot. But my death isn't really something that haunts me as much as the thought that someday soon, I could loose my mother. She's in her 50s and not getting any younger. She's my support, what keeps me going, because she is the most patient woman I've met. How she can put up with me I'll never know, but when she's gone, who am I going to have left? She's the closest thing to perfect I have.
Lovely top! Though I wanna say, Strider... I love when you whisper. You convey both the peace and depth of the subject you're talking about when you do that ^^
Flanders Ladder is one of the best modern Simpsons episodes. It portrays imaginative scenes in a realistic way and the story is cohesive and well done.
You know, when I was a tiny bit younger, I saw the episode with moe leaning toward s*icide but I missed the beginning of it so I though he was just sad. I think you can imagine my surprise when I saw the end of the episode. Yikes.
To be fair Bart did encourage lisa to "prank whenever and however" she could Right after embarrasing her to the whole internet And lisa's still only eight years old
I was not prepared to hear about an actual, extremely disturbing murder case from the 1950s in the second entry in a list of dark Simpsons episodes tonight, I can tell you that much.
What the fuck are you talking about? It’s out and there’s nothing controversial about it at all, the leftist media just wanted to try and incite violence to further their non existent point.
@@myfellowsonicfans7131 Well, the left seemed to be irritated by the movie so much that they wanted to "prove their point" by shooting people at the theatres. It was somehow done by violence to believe what they said.
wait so 1997 is to old but 2000 is modern? I would of said 2010-2019 would of been modern simpsons or better yet. modern simpsons uses the flat screen TV intro while old school uses the fat screen intro also may I just say ned managed to pull all 3 bouvier girls 1 of which is a lesbian
Yeah,I also don't really consider pre-movie 2000s seasons to be modern Simpsons anymore,they don't belong to the golden era of the 90s,but they're quite different from (and IMO better than) the 2010s seasons.
I think calling Bart is a psycho is far too much, and by calling him that it forgets that Bart is the most tragic of the Simpsons family and most of his issues come from his miserable life. He’s regularly abused by his father, his mother enables said abuse and the few times she pays him any mind are to express that she’s disappointed in him, he was barred from spending time with his baby sister because his father thinks so little of him he doesn’t want her “corrupted” by him, and he has a younger sister who exceeds him at everything and rubs his nose in it. And on top of that he’s bullied in school and the one teacher who actually supported him no matter how much he screwed up is dead. It says a lot about Bart that he becomes a near perfect angel every time the series outs Ned in the fatherly position for him. Bart has so little in his life, and nearly everybody he knows treats him like garbage. It’s no wonder he’s a textbook problem child.
In my opinion "The wife aquatic" is a contender. it shows how bad are community is and the main plot has homer and bart nearly killed! even at the end it still gives my shivers.
One of my favorites is when Moe met Maya and really tries everything he can to make her happy. That episode might have ended with the status quo in tact, but unlike the other episodes, it felt more happy and has heart into it. I like the message also that no matter how bad things get, there is always someone out there who can help remind you that within every dark cloud, there is a rainbow on the other side of it, in a sense :)
Al Monkeyboy Um, when it endangers your life, cuz ignoring reality, much like how ignoring your problems, doesn’t make them, go away, it just means, that you’re not acknowledging them.
Barts disregard of the "murder" seems to be him avoiding facing his own guilt.
Feels like Bart kinda goes over this guy's head and he's determined to set Bart out as a psycho
What’s the excuse of why Bart Simpson didn’t face his own guilt other than the fact that it was in a Modern The Simpsons episode?!?!
Hmmm...
@@buddy3119 He's already said before that Bart is his least favourite character, so this doesn't surprise me one bit.
True and I can't help but feel that Strider is just being a little biased because he doesn't like Bart, feelings over logic
_"You tried your best and you failed miserably. The lesson is, never try."_
*~ Matt Groening*
Matt isn't giving up the Simpons isn't he...
that was homer, matt never wrote a hole episode by then self
@@rickynetcl Well, that's more of an in-voice to him by letting Homer speak.
rickynetcl colonel homer
@@keynanmartinez Well, he just left the show and it somehow remained to be one of the longest that suffered from seasonal rot.
I do not blame Homer for Maude's death, he just bent down at the wrong moment, but I blame the people firing T-shirts, they could have easily hit anybody, they could have hit a child, I think Ned Flanders should sue them because they technically killed his wife.
I don't think he would because I think Ned would find suing someone a sin for some reason
@@ivanbutler5772he would probably think it is being greedy
@@MewsOvercast definitely would see as a sin of greed and Christianity tells about being forgiving so yeah there’s that too
AND those girls showed up at the funeral. Talk about adding insult to injury.
Maude had to die, because the original actor had left the cast (Maggie Roswell) until season 14.
Seriously, just let Moe meet someone. Changing the status quo is the only thing that can save the series.
There is the really adorable episode “Moe’s Baby Blues,” where Moe finally gains some appreciation after unintentionally saving Maggie’s life and starts to bond with her by becoming her babysitter.
@@Cure_Hana I love that episode.
even they do barney be a drunk again, when the episode he enter tl re hab was amazing
And have Moe's next love interest be voiced by Katie Wright
There was that one episode where he dated that dwarf woman, but he messed it up.
The episode where Homer's mother died in season 19. Maybe it's more sad than dark, but I remember watching it as a kid and having to turn the episode off when Homer found his mother's body.
Agreed. The fact I couldn't sit through more than 7 minutes of this episode makes it take the cake. I've still to this day not seen the remaining two-thirds of the episode.
So this is why Abe Simpson got saddened by his loss of her wife?
Sad.
I heard that episode is pretty mediocre.
It was sad when she came back the first time and had to run away again. Homer looking down the road.
The rest of the episode is a spy parody, Homer is told where he has to spread her ashes only to find out she planned it so when her ashes were spread it would block off the ventilation to a secret base run by Mr Burns who’s harming the environment and then The Simpson’s break in and shut it down to fulfil her final wish
I personally feel that Maude's death was only character development for Ned rather than a story about her tragic death
Actually, it was because her actor left and I heard when she came back it was late.
She was literally a plot device. Kind of like Uncle Ben.
@@AnalyticalMenace Actually. Her actor left. Thats why she was killed off. She eventually came back but it was already past her character's death soo...
@@thunderbolt8541 Well you say she left, but really she was fired for complaining about how far she had to travel to record her lines when they wouldn't increase her pay to compensate.
@Proud Straight White Christian Conservative I bet the Nay is for NO because that's true, also i don't have a diction for that.
The only reason you don't like the name "Equalia" is because deep in your subconscious It reminds you of "Brinquedo".
Indeed *_*
Well, Brazil is a great country with their entertainment industry suck up.
Yup, the ugly God lives on...
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@@poweroffriendship2.0 we have great dubs.
I genuinely hate that Moe episode so much. Letting Moe finally get to be happy, only to rip it away so unceremoniously and with such cruelty...just sat so wrong with me. It's not like they haven't changed the status quo throughout the history of the show, they actually do it quite often, like Ned and Edna falling in love, The Simpsons getting a dog, Apu getting married and having children, ect.
There's no reason they can't make Moe even the tiniest bit less miserable, honestly.
Also, the subplot really got to me as well. I genuinely couldn't even watch it, it made me feel physically ill.
"Mona Leaves-a" is, in my opinion, the darkest most depressing episode of the show. For those who haven't seen it:
Homer's mother returns AGAIN, and Homer becomes really spiteful to his mother for constantly coming and running again, and rejects her presence. He is REALLY nasty to his mother and says some really cutting remarks to her. That night, he feels bad for what he said, and goes downstairs to make amends.... only to find out his mother died in the night.
We are 7 minutes into the episode.
I couldn't watch the rest.
For the fact I had to stop watching after the first act of the episode because it was too dark and upsetting, this episode takes the cake.
UPDATE: Several people have told me to watch the rest of the episode, so after all these years I finally did. I cried through most of the rest of it, simply because that gut-punch at the one-third mark is so massive. I do not cry easily, either. When a close friend of mine died earlier this year of an illness, not even that made me cry (although it was really upsetting and I came close at times, especially when I had dreams that he didn't really die and we reunited). I've seen the rest now, and I can still say it is one of the most depressing things I've seen on television I never want to watch this episode again.
I'm sorry for your pain😔
I was on homer side during that episode cuz really she never been a mother to him. She comes and goes, dealing more damage to her son. She never deserves his love cuz he was raised by his father. I didn’t find it upsetting at all and hate the slap on forgiveness lesson. A mother like that really shouldn’t be forgiven. All she did is give birth to him. That was it. I actually laugh when she died. Not all mothers should be forgiven or even be called mothers
Yeah Homer was mad at his mother but I'd say the reasoning is a good one. His mother literally abandons her family to evade law enforcement for being involved in that one crime. By the way in that episode you mentioned, his mother literally used her death to get Homer to get revenge on Mr. Burns for her. Her love for Homer, at least in that episode, is not very genuine.
Well, I don't know what to say.
If it helps I did see the whole episode. The story basically revolves around Homer trying to honor his mother’s last request, which leads to these trials that Homer and the family have to overcome to do it. And the ending is pretty sweet and satisfying. If you ever happen to see it on TV and it’s already past like the first 10 minutes, I’d watch it.
I actually really like Nelson, he’s a bully but he has likable qualities and shows he can care some time. “Dial N for Nerder” proves this point
The episode is called "The Haw-Has Coupled".
He's not a 1 dimensional character
Homer framing Marge for DUI was one of the worst things Homer ever did in The Simpsons.
Not as bad as Peter tricking Lois into thinking she killed Stewie 😶
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This has literally nothing to do with Family Guy, go away.
@@jaxthewolf4572 dude. This has nothin whatsoever to do with family guy.
Or when he pointed a gun at her
Apposed to all the things he's done in other shows
It disgusts me how the modern episodes just completely ruin any character whenever the feel like it and how Moe can't just be happy. He's not the best person but he's not the worst either.
I don't think it's that Moe can't be happy, but he clearly suffers from some pretty severe depression. Just being happy isn't exactly a thing in his case. Though, it would be nice for him to get a little character development. He can suffer depression and have a girlfriend.
And even when they actually let a character change, they really don't. Barney giving up alcohol? Well, since he still looks the same, talks the same and spends all day, every day at the bar...I'd say nothing has actually changed. It's just the status quo in disguise.
The great thing about “Flanders Ladder” is that there’s continuity with other episodes
When Bart dies you can see him in a Supreme Court judge outfit
In earlier future episodes you can see Bart talking about how he’s working on demolition to clear out all his anger until he goes to law school, in a later episode, you can see him with Abraham asking for an Elderly Citizen Ticket and a Supreme Court ticket for them.
He's with Homer
‘The 31st season will be upon us!’
Yes, how spooky!
Oh shut up
@@lordroy88 go commit step on lego stack
I know.
“Lisa the Drama Queen” is also notable for being the final episode of The Simpsons to be produced in 4x3, as the show switched over to widescreen high definition with the following episode, “Take My Life, Please”. What an insane note to end the “classic” era of The Simpsons on.
That scene where it shows the death of all of the characters looks like a direct nod to the ending of the series "Six Feet Under". The series ended the same way and used the white background with black letters format. Great show, and the best ending of a show I've ever seen.
Not just a direct nod; Simpsons copied some of the deaths exactly.
I would enjoy a top 10 modern simpsons episodes😀
If there's enough interest, I'd like to do best and worst with TheRealJims :)
I would love it too
@@phantomstrider Oh my god that would be great I'm a big fan of TheRealJims channel
I'd love it
@@phantomstrider If you do that video, you'd had to change the criteria for what counts as modern. When the "Modern Simpsons" era is now more than doubled the run of the other era, that doesn't really feel right.
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Im a simple man
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Dude, is this 2017? People still write comments like this?
I’ll defend boys in bummer as it is an accurate representation of backlash an athlete can get from making a critical mistake in a game and costing the team the game and how he can be bumbarded with hate from everywhere he would go in his hometown to the point of damaging his mental health, I can see how you may not like the episode cause it’s not a very funny episode but I disagree with you saying it’s bad writing
The fantasy world is a little personal to me and scary 😥😥😔🙁🙁
fuck lisa she is a libral bitch
How so
@@sadlobster1 because I sometimes get stuck in my fantasy world 😥
@@avaduncan5493 With the poor state the world is in right now, it makes sense
@@theletsplayer4921 how the fuck did you make this political dam you, you fucking rusting primitive kettle
Yo does anyone remember that episode when homer has flashbacks of when he found a dead body in a lake when he is with Carl and Lenny when he was younger and it has worms coming out the nose. That scared me so much when i was younger
Was it the one when they revealed how Smithers' father died?
Minnie I think so. Can’t really remember but probably cause I remember In scene they are really young
@@thatrat8628 Yess!!It *is* that one!
That Episode was pretty good.
I liked that episode, but god that corpse was gross, for many years I just had to look other way at that moment.
I have a very awkward relation with dead.
PhantomStrider I noticed these Darkest Episodes lists really let you shine since you know a lot to counter anything misleading in these dark episodes.
I think that that is just how Bart thinks everyone will die. Because there's no way he can predict the future.
The one with Juliet was the last episode before they went hd
The worst thing I've seen Bart do is try to break up homer and Marge to get out of doing homework
Maldon 365 Oh yeah, Postcards from the Wedge, I remember that episode. That wasn’t a great episode but I will give it Credit saying as though Bart at least gets consequences at the end for what he does
@@jonahgoldstein9905 what happens to him?
What season
@@oreo4093 20
@@maldon3659 Bart plays his parents against one another so he doesn't have to do homework,and when he realises his parents doesn't care about what he does,he turns on Springfield's old subway,and sends them a note where "Lisa" says he'll destroy the school with it.
Pretty sure that last one was supposed to parody the HBO series, Six Feet Under. Which is an incredible show that portrays death!
The sad episodes of Modern Simpsons are actually a reason why I usually leave the show on when it’s on Channel 4.
Swear they've been getting pretty trigger happy with cutting lines/scenes out recently.
Chris SubZ Probably cause it’s not late night anymore
Lucky. The simpsons used to come on for a solid hour, everyday on channel 5 for me. Now I gotta walk my ass all the way to fox hd or whatever they call it for anything
@@neonflights5951 They come on the occasional weekdays on RTE 2 when they feel the need to actually air it sometimes. But it's mostly episodes from Season 5-14.
What the hell is channel 4
RIP Russi Taylor.
Harrison Clark the voice of Martin Prince
@@jamesgriffin7962 and Minnie Mouse and many other animated characters
Rest in peace to her, but those that said that Martin Prince died in the Google search suggestions need to rethink how animation works. Plenty of Simpsons' voice cast have given into doing a voice for Martin, and if things continue out with Simpsons and Martin wouldn't die, Martin would likely be voiced by Nancy Cartwright for a time being
@Harrison Clark She's Martin's voice and Minnie's voice too
He was also voiced by Jo Ann Harris and Pamela Hayden
The end of Flanders Ladder is sad and I love it but it's also kind of a parody of the series finale of Six Feet Under.
Id go more loving homage. It is pretty much played straight. Really like it myself
According to the original idea, this episode was supposed to be the finale of the entire show, due to the purchase of Fox by Disney.
@@83MichaelMyers Honestly, I hope the Simpsons will end with a high note. Bring back some of the older writers for the last season and give it another movie.
Definitely a parody of 6 feet under idk if the guy who made the video realized that
the problem with the Simpsons and dealing with serious mental health issues they make fun of it rather than give people who have mental health issues a reason to be positive.
a scorpion's tale feels like a creepypasta episode whenever that eye popping scenes happen. It's odd to see in a non treehouse of horror episode.
Yeah that's a good point
My explanation for why Nelson helps in Dial N for Nerder is because, he cares for Martin’s well being and shows his friendship through bullying (that makes no sense but we’ll roll with it.) and Martin doesn’t realize it.
Nelson would never let people forget the death of his Team Discovery Channel cohort. He is Martin's burly protector
Hey, Jims!
THEY REMAIN THE BEST OF FRIENDS FOR YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS!
CROSSOVER PLEASE
Your my favourite TH-camr
From these episodes you get more of the impression that Lisa is the actual. Psychopath
I almost cried when Maggie turned into a cluster of stars and it said "never died" in the ending scene of Flander's Ladder
I always thought "It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad Marge" was fairly dark as well. In that one, Marge becomes convinced that Otto's girlfriend is trying to take over her life and plotting to kill her. Everyone else believes it's all in Marge's head, so you can guess where the plot goes.
By the way, this is an amazing list! I am binge-watching this show and am in the middle of season 19. In fact, last night I watched "Dial N for Nerder" and stumbled upon this particular list a few minutes ago. I also just saw the episode where the town berates Bart for his baseball failures. I have always loved when light-hearted shows explore darker territory so it is good to know there are plenty more dark episodes to look forward to in the future.
I believe in the theory that almost every episode of the simpsons is a different universe set on the same timeline so basically we se the same day in different universes even when they mention stuff from older episodes or even ones set in the future.
7:12 it’s because the voice actor of hers quit she tried to get back on the show but it was too late
I actually really like the Martin fake murder episode. It's quite darkly comic and does something quite unique with Bart and Lisa.
It does give Family Guy a run for its money when it comes to dark episodes. I remember seeing the one when Moe got a new suit the day it premiered
Commie now switch to your account to defend yourself commie
Its not really dark Moe does suiside gags all the time its a running gag.
Nah
I saw the episode at the top of the list the day it premiered.
Being darker than Family Guy isn't really a hurdle to go over.
Was wondering of you were ever going to do this. Lol
"I do this and worse to two stir fried chickens a night."
Roflmao
"Maggie never dies"
MAGGIE'S OUR NEW GOD EVERYONE!!!!
my only thought was, wow flander got marry alot
Nelson being the detective was truly a wonderful moment ..one of the few in Zombie Simpsons.
I still stand by my decision, Simpson’s darkest and worst episode is Barts Suicide
what season is that?
Cartoon fan wasn’t that just a shitty creepypasta
Season 18
rickynetcl season 18
i think the title was “boys of bummer” or something
Edit: Josh mentions it in the honourable mention
I didn't care for the ending of "Lisa the Drama Queen", especially as there is a REASON why Juliet acts like that: her dad. She needed a friend to keep her GROUNDED. But honestly, "Diggs" did this type of story much better, even if it didn't have a happy ending.
Fair point. And Lisa had to make the call whether she wanted to be that friend to keep Juliet grounded. I guess she didn't, which is sad for Juliet.
i would agree that diggswas much better, lisa the drama queen wasnt necessarily the best episode
The strange thing about the Simpsons is the way they can include so many non-stop references and iconic scenes, every cliche and parody you could think of, and some of the content is *so familiar* but you can't figure out *why* it is familiar
I always enjoy you doing these lists and I wonder a suggestion you can do the lightest/Happiest Moments in Cartoons it would be nice to see what are your thoughts on Best and Happiest moments have a nice day, Josh!^-^
Something that makes Co Dependents Day even worse is Homer didn’t only frame Marge for drunk driving … he also gaslit her into thinking that she actually did drunk drive and she didn’t remember
Aliens will have the chance to watch new episodes of The Simpsons in the next 100 years.
My only question is how is The Simpsons still making enough money to bother being renewed each year? I have literally never seen a single piece of merchandise for the show in any offline store since at least 2008. I remember seeing Bart on a Hot Topic shirt or two but now I don’t even see references to the show places like there.
Is it the fact it holds a record for how long this style has been around because I honestly want to know what’s going on here.
There are still some merchandise every now and then. The most notable for sure comes from the funko pops of some of the Simpsons characters.
It still pulls in a comfy 1.2 million in the ratings every season if I remember right.. Which is still far lower than the 5-7 million under season 10 used to achieve, but still among the biggest numbers of fox shows.
it pulls 3M I think
Christopher CAMILLERI. In dollars? That doesn’t sound like much , idk correct me if I’m wrong but I thought all the actors and people working on the show would be getting paid more than that it total
@@Hizenburgerr probably viewers, not dollars
While I don't quite remember Lisa the Drama Queen, I do recall the theme of one becoming lost in their fantasies being done in another story; Don Quixote.
I agree that one shouldn't let themselves become too wound up in their fantasy worlds. But with the real world being in such a poor state, social disarray/distrust being at an all-time high and things becoming increasingly darker as of late (in a moral sense.) The sad truth is, more and more people will be turning towards escapism to find THEIR version of happiness; unless things start changing.
As for me, I LOVE fantasy and have even created my own world called Overon in my books. But I practice escapism the way Tolkien or C.S. Lewis once did, long ago. I don't go wandering off into a ramshackle building thinking it's a palace.
I go into my room, put on some Blackmore's Night or Dubliners music and imagine myself within Overon. As ironic as it sounds, this practice helps inspire me to create my stories
Funeral for a fiend is kind of dark. It’s also my favourite simpsons episodes ever!
Same
Same
How’s that episode dark? I don’t get it. The only part of that episode was Bob trying to kill all the Simpsons, even Maggie! MAGGIE!
Lisa was downright evil in the Ladder episode
@@Aghaudunfel Try not being sociopathic when no one want to talk with you, don't want to deal with you and don't like you.
Not really. I mean, this is the kid who throughout other episodes has been taunted by Bart via pranks. I think she deserved her revenge.
@HanHanPlayz *wide eyed* Betrayal?
Seriously though, I saw that episode, and you have a great point. If that was me, nearly being posted to faraway places by someone I liked, I'd feel betrayed.
@@Aghaudunfel
The episode where Bart was a drummer was titled "Jazzy and the Pussycats". That was also the episode where Lisa opened an animal sanctuary.
If it weren’t for Lisa in the episode “E My Sports” the Simpsons wouldn’t be in such financial trouble
God lord the empathesis Strider puts on the letter S.
It would be better if you stopped making me guilty for liking Family Guy thank you very much Strider. I know you hate it but there are others who do. Everytime you keep showing an out of context Family Guy scene and it makes me sad because there is some good aspects with the show. Please, if you are reading this, respect my opinion. I respect yours. If anybody else is reading then respect my opinion too.
Caleb Kuti What does that have to do with the original comment?
Sorry, I needed to talk to him directly
Caleb Kuti if you needed to talk to strider your should’ve just made a stand-alone comment
Alright. Thanks for letting me know
Dial N For Nerder honestly reminds me of the nasty patty episode from spongebob but less dark and still had some funny jokes
Like if u agree
I don't know why but for some reason, seeing Strider juggling at the end of every video makes me smile. Like it doesn't really have anything to do with the reviews, but him incorporating something he does that makes him happy in his video just seems nice to me :)
The name "Equalia" makes sense. It's a riff on Equestria.
Too early. Lisa The Drama Queen aired in January 2009. MLP G4 began in October 2010.
So while it is a bit of a funny coincidence I noticed, it IS just a coincidence.
Boys of Bummer was a truly dark episode. Poor Bart. He may be a little evil punk but Bart didn't deserve that.
Modern Simpsons does have it's moments where it's social commentary does show through.
The montage of deaths scene was basically an homage to the end of the finale to Six Feet Under.
Lisa is mean to terrify Bart in his coma, that is just wicked, it shows that she does not care about him.
I really identify with Juliet from Lisa the drama queen; feeling outcast by her father and family traditions and escaping into fantasy as a means to cope.
Let's talk about a ghost of itself, so halloweeny
It feels like Lisa seems to have a lot more dark intentions than Bart because she tried to make Bart suffer with nightmares just because he posted some dumb picture of her, and she also tried to keep the “murder” of Martin hidden so she wouldn’t go to jail.
I associate the name "Equalia" with the word equality. That might be intentional...
The Great and Loveable Peridot It is. Because Lisa mentioned in the episode that it is a land of equality.
@@hybrid1245 Yeah, but they're still the leaders lol
@@rosykindbunny1313 elitists always want to be in charge.
Also, "paths of glory" is a nod to "Enders game"
Excellent list! Although it's not a modern episode, I've always felt that "Homer's Enemy" was one of the darkest episodes they've ever done as many of us could relate to being Frank Grimes in a way
After watching this; I went and checked out Flanders' Ladder; and I have never cried so much to a Simpsons episode since the death of Homer's Mother.
Edit: and also Maude's death.
Seeing the "Alone Again Natura-diddily" segment saddened me. It reminds me of all the characters that were killed off.
Just saying, I think the darkest episode of the Simpsons is actually Homer's Enemy from Season 9 when Homer drives someone so insane that he kills himself and turns his funeral into a joke.
The death of every character as shown in the last episode mentioned still touches me today. But where I always have to smile is when I see Bart being a judge. Taking up on that old joke from the first or second season where Homer wouldn't allow Bart to see the Itchy and Scratchy movie and at the end of the episode where they flashforward to Bart being a judge and watching the movie with his father. I really like that they referenced it. Not only for the reference sake but also because it shows: as much as they love to make fun of Bart being not very keen on education they show that he eventually turns out well though. And that's what I love about this scene so much.
Maggie as the galaxy was very heartfelt
I love your Simpsons related videos, Strider. I was wondering if you’d ever consider doing a top ten Most Heartfelt Simpson’s moments. I can think of at least two that deserve to be on that list. Keep up the awesome work you do on this channel.
Did you know that the end of the episode Flanders ladder was a parody on the closing scene of six feet under?
I heard Lisa is even worse in the recent seasons, and she wonders why she's friendless. But yeah, there was a ton of dark moments in the Simpsons
A lot of the reason's for Lisa's decline probably have something to do with the way this guy can't seem to comprehend why Lisa could be anything less than a perfect angel and how Bart could be anything less than a literal psychopath.
As someone who's suicidal, I can tell you that suicide jokes can be mind numbingly funny
I’m confused
I can’t be bothered To think of a name So am I.
This is a TH-cam comment section no ones here so they can hear ur cries for attention deal with this shit on your own
I have mixed feelings about the moe suicide jokes, as a suicidal person as well. I make alot of jokes but that's how I deal with my issues but I don't appreciate the negative portrayal of our struggles
When they're done right. Take it from someone with MDD.
20:50 ah, you too?
(Slight warning)
I struggle to come to terms with mortality in general as well. Makes sense, I'm 20. But I came face to face with the possibility of my death at around age 12, when I considered taking my life due to being bullied in middle school and having to deal with the consequences of my dad unknowingly marrying a very abusive and manipulative woman. I absolutely did not go through with it, and to to this day I think about that (and one other moment from last year when I almost tried again) a lot. But my death isn't really something that haunts me as much as the thought that someday soon, I could loose my mother. She's in her 50s and not getting any younger. She's my support, what keeps me going, because she is the most patient woman I've met. How she can put up with me I'll never know, but when she's gone, who am I going to have left? She's the closest thing to perfect I have.
Lovely top! Though I wanna say, Strider... I love when you whisper. You convey both the peace and depth of the subject you're talking about when you do that ^^
I think what you're trying to say here Akai, is that - He's freakin' AMAZING!!!!!
Flanders Ladder is one of the best modern Simpsons episodes. It portrays imaginative scenes in a realistic way and the story is cohesive and well done.
5:43
Me: LOVE IS NOT REAL
my friends: maybe not but it's better than hate
You know, when I was a tiny bit younger, I saw the episode with moe leaning toward s*icide but I missed the beginning of it so I though he was just sad. I think you can imagine my surprise when I saw the end of the episode.
Yikes.
Yup, seeing it out of context can be really unsettling.
I agree with you strider, the last scene is enough to make a tear shed
Jesus that eyeball scene was like a jump scare to me, and yet like a jumpscare; I saw it coming too.
Everybody gangsta until dead bart shows up.
How about a Top 10 Darkest Moments from DreamWorks Animated Movies?
Yes!
#6: Mama Bear’s Implied Death, from Shrek
To be fair Bart did encourage lisa to "prank whenever and however" she could
Right after embarrasing her to the whole internet
And lisa's still only eight years old
I was not prepared to hear about an actual, extremely disturbing murder case from the 1950s in the second entry in a list of dark Simpsons episodes tonight, I can tell you that much.
*_I actually think the Joker movie is coming out this year. What do you think? I heard that movie is phenomenal (yet controversial)._*
What the fuck are you talking about? It’s out and there’s nothing controversial about it at all, the leftist media just wanted to try and incite violence to further their non existent point.
ุ ุ “incite violence” what
@@myfellowsonicfans7131 Well, the left seemed to be irritated by the movie so much that they wanted to "prove their point" by shooting people at the theatres. It was somehow done by violence to believe what they said.
"Besides Bleeding Gums Murphy, the show never really killed anybody."
Man even in this VIDEO Grimes has it dirty.
wait so 1997 is to old but 2000 is modern? I would of said 2010-2019 would of been modern simpsons or better yet.
modern simpsons uses the flat screen TV intro while old school uses the fat screen intro
also may I just say ned managed to pull all 3 bouvier girls 1 of which is a lesbian
I separate it into three columns: Classic era 1-10, post classic 11-19, and HD era 20-present.
@@Kongaslam anyone feel like the more HD it got the worse the animation got?
ADHeroD its the art style and I agree
Yeah,I also don't really consider pre-movie 2000s seasons to be modern Simpsons anymore,they don't belong to the golden era of the 90s,but they're quite different from (and IMO better than) the 2010s seasons.
I think calling Bart is a psycho is far too much, and by calling him that it forgets that Bart is the most tragic of the Simpsons family and most of his issues come from his miserable life. He’s regularly abused by his father, his mother enables said abuse and the few times she pays him any mind are to express that she’s disappointed in him, he was barred from spending time with his baby sister because his father thinks so little of him he doesn’t want her “corrupted” by him, and he has a younger sister who exceeds him at everything and rubs his nose in it. And on top of that he’s bullied in school and the one teacher who actually supported him no matter how much he screwed up is dead.
It says a lot about Bart that he becomes a near perfect angel every time the series outs Ned in the fatherly position for him. Bart has so little in his life, and nearly everybody he knows treats him like garbage. It’s no wonder he’s a textbook problem child.
20:15 I think this part is intended as a riff on the series finale of Six Feet Under. They use the same font and everything.
In my opinion "The wife aquatic" is a contender. it shows how bad are community is and the main plot has homer and bart nearly killed! even at the end it still gives my shivers.
I think that episode is more dramatic than dark
One of my favorites is when Moe met Maya and really tries everything he can to make her happy. That episode might have ended with the status quo in tact, but unlike the other episodes, it felt more happy and has heart into it. I like the message also that no matter how bad things get, there is always someone out there who can help remind you that within every dark cloud, there is a rainbow on the other side of it, in a sense :)
With moe we have litterly never actually had more having a good time for more than 15 mins
I love when every once and a while the Simpsons writers take advantage of the fact that FOX will never let them die to experiment.
Absolutely loving the Level 7 music from The Simpsons Hit & Run featured throughout this vid
I recently watched “Lisa the Drama-Queen and I didn’t find it dark so why do you consider this episode *DARK*
Because they were In Mortal danger from the bullies and still tried to escape to fantasy. That's scary when fantasy takes over reality
catherine ringwood sense when was Fantasy taking over Reality scary?
Al Monkeyboy
Um, when it endangers your life,
cuz ignoring reality,
much like how ignoring your problems,
doesn’t make them, go away,
it just means,
that you’re not acknowledging them.
I think the episode “Flanders Ladder” is definitely one of the darkest, but also one of the best episodes of Modern Simpsons.