Beethoven: Septet in E-flat major, op. 20

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  • Wiener Philharmonisches Kammerensemble Performing
    1977
    00:00 Adagio - Allegro con brio
    10:13 Adagio cantabile
    19:28 Tempo di menuetto
    23:00 Tema con variazioni: Andante
    31:12 Scherzo: Allegro molto e vivace
    34:42 Andante con moto alla marcia - Presto

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  • @jamisonsanchez9372
    @jamisonsanchez9372  5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Reupload due to sync issues.

    • @romanobrien
      @romanobrien 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      heyo, thank you so much for all of these, is it possible for you to reupload Beethoven Symphony number 7 in A major Op.92? Thank youuu

    • @dhu2056
      @dhu2056 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@romanobrien why?

    • @romanobrien
      @romanobrien 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dhu2056 because their video of symphony #7 isn't available anymore and I need it for music class and their video was the only one that had the whole symphony with the score behind it, which is really helpful for studying :))

    • @dhu2056
      @dhu2056 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@romanobrien I'm pretty sure the video is still there..

    • @Uschimaximus
      @Uschimaximus 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      sehr schön und auch ein sehr schöne Profilbild ( habe auch so einen Kater " Uschi Lamusch " heisst er )

  • @TheFdiaz220
    @TheFdiaz220 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This should have millions of views, what music!

  • @joshscores3360
    @joshscores3360 3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    One of the last works Beethoven wrote before he became aware of his encroaching deafness, the Septet is a lighthearted work in the spirit of the eighteenth century serenade. Beethoven had it premiered in the same concert in which he unveiled his Symphony No. 1. The Septet was an immediate success, and the composer later expressed a certain resentment toward this work, remarking that it's popularity eclipsed more deserving compositions. Nevertheless, the Septet is an interesting work, filled with youthful energy and containing engaging and attractive solos for the instrumentalists. The first of the work's six movements is a slow and deliberate introduction prefacing a fresh and energetic Allegro con brio. The first subject is carried initially by the violin, then by the clarinet. The second theme brings several other instruments into a dialogue, but is essentially ignored in the development section; after an elaboration of a fragmented version of the first theme, the development section closes in the right key but without a true recapitulation. In the Adagio cantabile, Beethoven shifts to the key of A flat, introducing a tranquil, swaying melody, which the clarinet and violin each play. The other instruments are generally limited to colorful support, except when the horn takes a tentative melodic lead. The Minuet borrows its main theme from Beethoven's Piano Sonata in G major, Op. 49/2 (an earlier work despite its higher opus number). It's a spry tune over a tick-tock accompaniment. As is common in Beethoven's works of this period, the minuet contains two trios, the second pulling its insistent rhythm from the opening material. The fourth movement, an Andante, is a set of variations on the Rhenish folk song "Ach Schiffer, lieber Schiffer." It's yet another lighthearted, bouncy tune, though a curiously unmemorable one; it merely provides Beethoven a suitably-shaped frame on which to hang his own busy melodic excursions and showcase the various instruments of the ensemble. The Scherzo, marked Allegro molto e vivace, is a vigorous piece with a hint of the hunt about it, thanks to the little figure played by the horn at the beginning. The contrasting trio is essentially a tuneful cello solo accompanied by the other strings and bassoon. In the final movement, a slow introduction (Andante con moto alla marcia) sounds almost ominous, with anticipatory material for the horn and violin. Soon this mood is dispelled by an exuberant Presto, in which the forward motion is occasionally interrupted by calm interludes. The movement also features fanfares, prominent solo material, and even a full cadenza for the violin.
    (AllMusic)

  • @mirrors1
    @mirrors1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    La mano del maestro anche qui si sente, eccome! Nelle apparenti vesti di una musica del tardo Settecento si celano meraviglie che appartengono già al Beethoven maturo. Davvero un bellissimo settimino che ha fatto gioire anche Stravinsky, per i timbri usato con maestria.

  • @DanWotanBarrett
    @DanWotanBarrett 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Clarinet - Alfred Prinz; Bassoon - Dietmar Zeman; Horn - Roland Berger; Violin - Gerhart Hetzel; Viola - Rudolf Streng; Cello - Adalbert Skocic; Double Bass - Burkhard Kräutler

  • @DCFunBud
    @DCFunBud 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    A fabulous piece performed by tremendous musicians.

  • @jameshaydn3341
    @jameshaydn3341 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The beginning reminds me of the Pipilangstrumpf Theme!! I love it!

  • @dennisjin9260
    @dennisjin9260 4 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    Note how the minuet has almost the exact same theme as the 20th Piano Sonata

    • @jacoblytehaven8225
      @jacoblytehaven8225 4 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      He definitely copied from it. Beethoven never actually intended the 20th (and 19th) sonatas to be published due to their relative simplicity, but his brother sort of went ahead and submitted them anyway without his consent. So despite the higher opus number, the sonatas were written about 4 or so years before the septet, and beethoven borrowed because he never expected that theme to be published as a sonata.

  • @noelaruldas1152
    @noelaruldas1152 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Hurrah! What a wonderful performance! Let us thank Ludwig van Beethoven for his wonderful compositions. When all the seven of you simultaneously play it gives the effect of organ.

  • @TimondeNood
    @TimondeNood 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I have not heard this work before, thank you for sharing!

  • @jamisonsanchez9372
    @jamisonsanchez9372  5 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    00:00 Adagio - Allegro con brio
    10:13 Adagio cantabile
    19:28 Tempo di menuetto
    23:00 Tema con variazioni: Andante
    31:12 Scherzo: Allegro molto e vivace
    34:42 Andante con moto alla marcia - Presto

  • @timothywoods2084
    @timothywoods2084 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I can definitely hear examples of his second symphony in this work, which he was composing at about the same time. It is worth noting that Schubert modeled his Octet on this work at the request of the clarinetist, Troyer, who commissioned Schubert.

  • @ClassicalMusicAndSoundtracks
    @ClassicalMusicAndSoundtracks 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It was one of Beethoven’s most popular works during his lifetime, much to the composer's dismay. Several years later, Beethoven even wished the score to have been destroyed, saying: "That damn work! I wish it were burned!"

  • @luisfernandorojasarroyave3568
    @luisfernandorojasarroyave3568 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    UN GENIO DE LA BUENA MUSICA...MARAVILLOSO SU SEPTIMINO

  • @florians2842
    @florians2842 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    great videos sir keep it up :)

  • @nvermindvana
    @nvermindvana 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    -What instruments you can hear
    -Tempo
    -Texture
    -Dynamics

  • @joshscores3360
    @joshscores3360 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I hope you can be active soon and upload more of Beethoven string quartets!

  • @averydabe7505
    @averydabe7505 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    0:25 Ger+6
    1:30 Start of Primary theme / first period
    3:25 Pedal point
    5:40 Pedal Point 2

  • @name-ng7mk
    @name-ng7mk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    At 4:32, it is very similar to the opening of the main melody in beethoven's third movement of his 9th symphony. The first violin plays a D-A-Bb-Eb motif here, but in the symphony the first violins play a D-A-Bb-F-Eb motif. The viola here plays repeated f's, but in the symphony violas also play repeated f's (though they are syncompated), and the cello here plays the bassline Bb-Eb-D-A Bb-A-G, which is the same exact bassline the cellos play in the third movement of his symphony, but a octave lower. Isnt that interesting?

    • @user-ik9il2kl7k
      @user-ik9il2kl7k ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It was G.Hetzel who specified these tonalities. I think this performance is one of the best.

  • @snowcarriagechengcheng-hun3454
    @snowcarriagechengcheng-hun3454 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for uploading!

  • @hjo4104
    @hjo4104 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    9:54 - that coda seems like variated codetta before the soloist's entry in Mozart's piano concerto KV 503.

  • @luihi9780
    @luihi9780 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I love your beethoven symphony uploads! Is there any chance you can do his "Creatures of Prometheus"

    • @jamisonsanchez9372
      @jamisonsanchez9372  5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Certainly! It's a favorite of mine actually. Will try and finish it this weekend, I've been busy with school so it's hard to sit down and dedicate time to making videos.

    • @luihi9780
      @luihi9780 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jamisonsanchez9372 Thank you!

    • @otakuxgirl6
      @otakuxgirl6 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jamisonsanchez9372 ok

    • @arturdankovsky8293
      @arturdankovsky8293 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jamisonsanchez9372 Are you still busy with school or now work is on the horizon?

    • @jamisonsanchez9372
      @jamisonsanchez9372  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@arturdankovsky8293 Yes, I'm working now. But it's a combination of time and not knowing what to upload.
      I typically try not to upload pieces that already have good videos, unless somebody requests a specific recording that doesn't have a score video. In the case of this request, the piece was uploaded on a larger channel shortly after before I finished mine so I never uploade.
      I had Verdi's La Forza del Destino uploaded (nearly 3 hr piece) but TH-cam took it down despite me uploading the audio track before hand to check for copyright.
      I was working on redoing that video with a different recording but I'm still open to requests.

  • @amerrylittlemonarch
    @amerrylittlemonarch ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Is it just me, or is the Allegro con brio theme very nice?

  • @pocoapocodolce
    @pocoapocodolce 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    7중주 E flat major
    19:28 피아노 소나타 미뉴에트를 편곡, 당시 미뉴엣의 인기를 확인할 수 있음

  • @m.erubik
    @m.erubik 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    0:30 Beethoven 5th symphony

  • @ahmetkaracamuallim
    @ahmetkaracamuallim 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Harika

  • @aidankwek8340
    @aidankwek8340 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is there a standard structure for the movements of a septet, or octet, and such? The string quartet has a standard structure, but this septet has six movements... Just curious.

    • @jamisonsanchez9372
      @jamisonsanchez9372  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm not knowledgeable about the structure to give you a real answer, but it's worth pointing out that Brahm's Serenade op. 11 is also in 6 movements as well as a lot of Mozart's Divertimentos. Perhaps something common to small symphonic ensembles?

    • @joshuaharper372
      @joshuaharper372 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      As with some of Mozart's divertimenti, composers sometimes approached larger chamber works like suites rather than symphonies. There is a lot more room for experimentation with unusual combinations of instruments than with "standard" groupings like string quartets. Nevertheless, even in quartets Beethoven branched out into experimental groups of movements in later works.

    • @aidankwek8340
      @aidankwek8340 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@joshuaharper372 Thanks!

    • @marcraider
      @marcraider 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nothing with Beethoven have a a standard structure, he always liked to broke rules and improvise a lot on all his works, and that is why he was unique in his own style.

  • @gamingmusicandjokesandabit1240
    @gamingmusicandjokesandabit1240 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Movement 3: (is like Beethoven's 20th piano sonata) - someone is bound to not believe it (at least at first) *surprised pikachu face*

    • @CK-kd5pn
      @CK-kd5pn 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yep, the melody is taken from his piano sonata.

    • @gamingmusicandjokesandabit1240
      @gamingmusicandjokesandabit1240 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@CK-kd5pn I think it's the other way around :-)

    • @CK-kd5pn
      @CK-kd5pn 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@gamingmusicandjokesandabit1240 That's not possible because the piano sonata was an earlier work despite the higher opus number. Note that Beethoven never intended on actually publishing his 20th sonata as well as his 19th.

    • @gamingmusicandjokesandabit1240
      @gamingmusicandjokesandabit1240 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@CK-kd5pn I remember seeing another comment here that said the theme was first written in the septet, plus there's also the concept of misleadingly high opus numbers :-)

    • @CK-kd5pn
      @CK-kd5pn 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@gamingmusicandjokesandabit1240 How was the theme written in the septet first when the septet was composed a few years after the sonata?

  • @sztheunknown883
    @sztheunknown883 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mvt.6 in a sonata form??

    • @violistanton
      @violistanton 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Is it a question or an objection?(??).In any case - yes, why not?

  • @pedrolacipolla3862
    @pedrolacipolla3862 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    27:30

  • @tarikeld11
    @tarikeld11 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Why is it a septet and not a symphony?

    • @grandstrategos1144
      @grandstrategos1144 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      A septet is a composition with seven parts, which this piece has. A symphony would have to have all of the instruments of the orchestra involved, including percussion.

    • @tarikeld11
      @tarikeld11 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@grandstrategos1144 Yes this is what I thought, but look at Mozart's first symphony, it has even less instruments than this.

    • @jamisonsanchez9372
      @jamisonsanchez9372  4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@tarikeld11 A septet is specifically composed for 7 players. A symphony is intended for a symphony orchestra where there are multiple musicians playing the same part. Take first violins for example, where there may be as many as 10 violinists playing the 1st violin part alone.

    • @tarikeld11
      @tarikeld11 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@jamisonsanchez9372 Okay now I understand it, thank you!

  • @vincenspurrier8380
    @vincenspurrier8380 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    crazy how this piece was so popular in his day, but no where near as popular in modern classical repertoire, guess music just comes and goes? Maybe this work just doesn't carry the same weight? But Idk every major piece by L.V.B seems like an absolute masterpiece to me, I wonder why Beethoven was so unhappy with this piece

  • @Aya_aya_aya
    @Aya_aya_aya 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    1:31

  • @marcomicheletti9957
    @marcomicheletti9957 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    35:44, Presto, 120 metronomo
    36:29, terzine di crome

  • @Claudio3689p
    @Claudio3689p 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I think He took some inspiration from Mozart's Gran Partita

    • @NewMusicWeekly
      @NewMusicWeekly 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The best theme (1:31) is also reminiscent of Mozart's Symphony 29: th-cam.com/video/2JUeRgJM6hs/w-d-xo.html

  • @user-pi5tt5mt7l
    @user-pi5tt5mt7l ปีที่แล้ว

    hi

  • @user-qj7yr9up1b
    @user-qj7yr9up1b 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    19:31

  • @olivierdrouin2701
    @olivierdrouin2701 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    La vida du dernier mouvement fait écho,dans le côté retour ironique sur soi et envol dans une dimension non dite, a la fin du k 452 de Mozart.
    Mais autant Mozart est insolent et polisson,autant Beethoven est élégant et viril.
    (Je n opposé pas un mai et un bien!!)

  • @coltinanderson
    @coltinanderson 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    41:40