Z1 broke a 370Z NA horsepower record...+100HP
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- We weren't ready for this. Will Jackson brought in his 2017 370Z for a set of JWT C2 cams, Z1 Ported Upper, Z1 Ported Lower Manifold, Z1 Cold Air Intakes, a set of Z1 Headers, GTR Injectors, E-85, and a dyno tune to complete the whole package. To say we were surprised doesn't cut it. Needless to say Will was very happy with the results.
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300 ft lbs wheel torque from a n/a VQ??? That's INSANE! Great job guys 👍. Never thought it was possible... These engines continue to amaze!
Sasha from on point dyno made 361 lbft, and 537HP at the wheels in an NA VQ35. He also fitted an electric motor to it, making it hybrid 600+ total HP.
@@gwot Its amazing what he did to that engine. Tho cant compare it to this one since its extremely modified.
@@gwot that’s a one off build.. most people won’t see anything near that.
@@gwot yeah but that’s a fully custom race spec engine built by brian crower and JWT custom 1of1 crank shaft they’ve never used or reproduced, 15:1 compression ratio running 105+ octane. Sasha is a fucking god.
@@Strahlendersonnenlicht its a jim wolfe crate motor. Sasha is the tuner
This video just sold a lot of Greddy exhuast and C2 cams
Is this possible? I have not seen many breaking the 340 WHP mark. I think I need cams. WTF
watch my newest video you'll hit 340 easy bro@@doggystyledave
doggystyledave happy dyno probably has a little to do with it lol
@@doggystyledave Do you know how long it takes to change the cams on this car ? man it's over 30 hours for someone who knows what he's doing... If it wasn't of that, I would have done this on my 370z since a long time
Qlassicrepresent over 30 hours? you’re dumb then
Damn that's nearly 911 GT3 numbers, which is insane considering that the GT3 engine is a purpose-built motor and not a mass-produced engine.
Not sure it really makes sense in terms of HP/$ given how much work is required to install the CAMS but that is some monster power for a pure NA motor.
Congrats Z1.
damn if nissan can just shred 200lbs or more out of this car it will be a perfect car to match the 911
@@talarcoj We can only hope that Nissan refresh the Z platform this upcoming year.
The FM platform has held up remarkably well but I'm sure they would have no issues cutting 200 odd lbs out of the car.
That said the Z was always more a corvette competitor, and it really needs the new Vr30 engine to compete.
@@cristianchavira8591The current version doesn't but go read up on your history on what the Z cars, because clearly your not aware of the 240 and 300zx.
It's not even close to a stock 4.0 991.2 GT3. 4.0's come from the factory with 493 RWHP. Either way, you're comparing a front engine RWD consumer sports car to a rear engine RWD track focused car that costs almost 4 times as much as a 370.
@@huehuehue-x3c Edit: For a 991.2 with the 4.0 engine sure, 420whp range is what most see out of the 991.1 and the 3.8L engine however.
And yes I'm comparing it to that because it's impressive that a mass produced 3.7L v6 can get that close.
Thought that was clear In my first post. Lol
The 3.7 does sound great.
Amazing! Man if I had the cash I would go this very week for this package
🤯😲😲 Speachless!! You 3.7 owners have it made in terms of making N/A power. Great vid Z1!!!
Literally a 370 now lol. Thats like ~450 crank
430
Look I'm Zexy i have 420whp on my z, with this i can get 500whp
Andy Wu ?
Mark Rampersad im here whats up.
433.55 HP at the crank to be exact. =)
In the famous words of Letty, Praise the car gods!
Fast & furios ja rule..
I praise your mom
If only this was CARB legal or California didnt care... KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK Z1!
Fuck Cali laws, I have a twin turbo Z and no exhaust restrictions. Officers think its a "factory nismo package"
SharkByte what’s your setup ? And are you a NISMO model ?
You're able to pass smog with that? Give me a hint as to what station that is that will do that.
@@RLTW420 no base model with nismo rear and custom front
@@videomaniac108 dirty smog. Just ask around and find one willing to do it for a little extra
Drop it from 5 smoothing to 0 and you will probably gain ~ 8rwhp / rwtq.... The 5 smoothing just makes the curve look smoother / nicer. 0 smoothing is the true HP/TQ of the motor!
Folks were skeptical about the JWT C2 cams. With the right mods, good things happen.
Apparently those cams really shine in the midrange and fall off up top.
@@nighthawk0077 True, but you can make adjustments to use the power. Just have to know what to do.
@@spooler7828 I am skeptical to be honest. I think Z1 is fudging numbers. Perhaps with Dyno correction factors. Hard to know as there was no "before" run. They also claimed 34whp from just their intakes.
@@nighthawk0077 No, they give you more midrange. I have a set in my motor. Fudging numbers? Hard to do on a dynojet and that is what they have.
@@spooler7828 Not questioning they give you more, the question is how much more. Anyway I'm sure that 370 runs strong. That much torque all the way from 4000 is nuts.
Sasha’s car also runs a dry sump oil system. It was formerly a Unitech built Grand Am race car.
I would like to see what you guys could get out of a VQ DE if you throw everything you have at your disposal at it.
Sasha runs a VQ37 with HR heads.
melvin khosa Yes I knew that.
About 450hp to the crank holy shit!
Damn!! 376 and 299!! I found my winter project.
Did you ever do this ?
Cams open the breath of the engine , Headers let it breathe & E85 fuel help it get the max out of the HP numbers ...
this car doesnt have headers or e85 tho...
@@foster7517 @2:39 That sure looks like Z1 headers . And I bet you these numbers couldnt be reached on regular gasoline .
5 years later we got guys making 400+ whp on m5 and nitro crazy to think this platform is still improving
thats pretty much the setup i wanna do to my 350Z HR
Thanks for letting us know
Damn, great work. I was looking for my white z32 in the background. Mine was there during that time.
Ummmm.....what? Pull vids needed now lol.
Absolutely insane numbers, almost 300wtq NA, holy hell!
What’s the labor cost on the cams?
Labor costs would probably be expensive. I am guessing this is a 20-30hr job. Call them and find out.
@@MelvinKhosa Yeah I remember reading somewhere it was at least 20 hours. That's a ton of money spent on labor but hey he hit the record so that's awesome.
Yeah well it was their own dyno which usually reads pretty high on the forums. We need to see a 1/4th mile run with this to see if its really making that power. Low 12's with a 112mph+ trap speed.
melvin khosa low 12s!? There’s VQs doing that already with 330-340whp. This has to be at LEAST high 11s
Luis Ramirez Of course. I was just giving reasonable times just in case the driver can't launch the car.
Now that's what I call great custom engineering and tuning. Awesome work guys!
Are the GTR injectors from a stock application?
david garza from an R35 550cc injectors a popular injector swap upgrade for both 350z and 370z
@@robertzamora5201 Awesome. Thanks
Drool! Sweet. Almost makes me want my 3.7 back.
If you would’ve added for an example: Wiseco/Brian Crower kit, how much to the wheels would you then have added on top of this NA record on a street car? With the 11.0 compression, and with the variation of bore sizes, 95 and 96 mm.
Amazing just for bolt ons, congrats y'all
Did you have to upgrade any of the timing chain/tensioner components? If so, what & how
These motors make great power per inch
Nice job next challenge is to make 400 plus to wheels which would def require a build I’m assuming forged internals as it goes from vQ37- VQ40VHR
This always surprises me when people don't know the VQ engine already has forged pistons and forged crank from the factory.
@@Aeneas137 Wasn't aware of that but simply building the block up to make NA 400 plus hp was where I was coming from to tune a NA to handle that increased compression ratio I would assume the block itself would be bored out
@@philloft from what I've read the larger crank helps the torque a little and hurts the hp for a NA. Inhibits your ability to rev up fast also. FI would be a different story.
@@Aeneas137 only forged crank, everything else isn’t forged. I’ve built an old 370Z before and nothing about the internals we’re forged besides the crank. But Nissan has been doing that since the G35
I just come hear to listen to most beautiful sounding vq37 on TH-cam
Who is the Tuner... And did you use UPrev or ECUtek?
Sam, you better be ready for my dad and I with our 350z ;)
I'd like to try this on my 6mt g37 vert..
What race is it being mentioned in this video near the beginning? I would love to spectate some of these but can't find anything ...
The on point dyno 350z has a jwt fully built hr, right? Because that car is making like 400whp all motor
That's a 35HR and this is a 37VHR
Any check engine light with the exhaust mods?,
It costs $9K CAD for a supercharger install with injectors and an extra oil cooler/radiator setup included installation and the power gains are remarkable with no strain on the engine or transmission. Very reliable setup as long as you don't beat it to within inches of it's life.
Didn’t Sasha’s 350z HR make like 400whp? HR>VHR
Deemah GZ Sasha also had headwork and ITB’s. Don’t be a fanboy. Mod for mod a vhr makes more power
Sasha has VQ37 rods, crank, custom pistons (since VQ37 ones don't fit in a HR), custom ITB setup, SGP longtubes, head porting and lots of headwork, super wild cams, the kitchen sink. Not cheap and not easy. Plus MOTEC...i.e. $$$$$.
Card Asset because they’re claiming 370z power so it doesn’t even include Sasha. Read better
This is a record for the Z1 dyno on a totally stock motor (minus the JWT cams) VHR. Comparing it to Sasha's car is like comparing Apples to Oranges. Sasha's car is has ITB's, higher compression, built bottom end, etc. Not anywhere close to what we did here.
It made more HP than Nissan's Pirelli World Challenge race cars we worked with many years ago.
@@Z1Motorsports23 i'd like to see this dyno duplicated with another build. what year car is this? good job guys.
ECUtek or Uprev tuned?
I'll be getting a dyno with Z1 intakes, Z1 headers, Z1 test pipes, and the Nismo R-Tune 2.5" exhaust. Interested to see the power once tuned. I'll be sure to post the results.
So......?
And ????
Forgot to add that Will has EPS Throttle bodies as well.
No, those things are garbage.
Sounds very much like a gtr
Saving for 400hp package cams and lower ported then tune. Was this on regular 91 or e85
I made 375 whp with no lower manifold and without my invidia exhaust on.
ECUTEK?
On E85?
This thing would make around 385whp with AdminTuning Intakes
And a single exit. 🤔🤔
Not true at all lmao
SNB AutoGroup with m5 fuel fasho it will
It's probably easy to get over 400whp with ported heads and higher compression
If by easy, you mean simply picking out the parts to do it, then yeah, it's a breeze. I've got Stillen SC money in this thing already. You're easily talking a stage 1 SOHO single turbo kit, something like $10-12k(including install) to break 400whp or the same money that would put you into the +525whp range.
@@Will-xp6jh you don't even wanna know what a built viper motor cost lol
@@ViperMods_216 I do
Problem is vvel ... It makes too hard to port the head without messing with vvel and it will stop working properly
Is this out of Georgia??
how much is it to install the cams?
did this have long tube headers and if not what test pipes did u have
What would this have made minus E85? Just a solid premium gas tune?
Tunercraze 360-367whp most likely
It made 364/294 on 93
@@Will-xp6jh I would be happy with that too.
@@Will-xp6jhWas this with the OEM fuel pump?
@@dbjeffy Yes
I see the dyno shows the STD correction factor. Did you guys record SAE corrected horsepower and torque?
Great work...... now throw some ITBs on there and lets see what happens
Lol no one makes ITB's for the VQHR/VHR. Needs to be a custom one and it will be very expensive.
@@MelvinKhosa some companies make itb's for this engine
What drive train does it have? Will this work on a G37x sedan stock drive train?
Throw a nice Wave Trac and a 3.9 Final Drive MMmmmmMmmMmM
3.9? That's weaksauce. Go with 4.1
melvin khosa for me personally 3.9 keeps it daily able,4.1 would be too aggressive for a daily IMHO.
4.1 if it's not a daily. throw some potenza re71-r
MmMmmmmm
4.08 the Perfect Final Drive Ratio
Vicious VQ would you happen to have any good videos for reference? I can't find any.
@@7eamGhast th-cam.com/video/S_dtzYuIrxc/w-d-xo.html
Choosing you guys to tune my G37 was the best money spent on it.
We appreciate your support!
@@Z1Motorsports23you got over a dozen questions in here that you are ignoring ....
Yet you answer this comment 🤷🏽♂️
Did you Dyno the car when it first got there, before the mods?
Last time on the dyno was 334/277 back in February
@@Will-xp6jh what were the mods in February?
Those numbers were on the same Dyno Z1 uses?
@@unijabnx2000 They were on Z1's dyno
@@jawaunb8405 K&N intake, ported plenum, lightweight flywheel, art pipes and the greddy exhaust
Great setup. Can't wait to build one of these. What is the the music?
We got 400whp maximas now with ls holly intake now
I need my headers! I got z1 upper intake, z1 test pipes, jwt c2 cams, admin intakes, & Motordyne shockwave but I’m missing my headers to complete my build 😭😭😭
Have u got ur headers yet?
Vigoss Virus hell no I ordered the headers in early June or July of 2019, haven’t got them yet
Vigoss Virus update: I just got my headers
@@The-Muffin-Man Which headers? And why would it take u over a year to receive headers? its like a 4-8 week wait time. longest 10-12 weeks
Taylor Morales z1 headers & they were on backorder at the time took about 8 months
That torque though. So sexy lol. That’s the best part
I wish the torque peak was at a higher RPM 5.7 it would be perfect, but all around smooth band and great power, congratulations guys at Z1!
No, I wish it was lower. Peak torque at 5,700rpm sounds gross.
@@Will-xp6jh I like power that climbs also after shifting you are hitting your peak torque. At a lower RPM you wouldn't hit your peak torque after shifting unless you set your gears longer. I prefer keeping the tachometer between 5 and 7 there is no need to go more than 7 max HP is reach at about 6.8 and 7.1
Very nice. Did you guys use EcuTek or UpRev?
Parker Portlock This car was tuned on UpRev.
Long tube Heat wrapped & triple liquid protected headers will make more constructive real world torque all the way through a torque curve than the basic generic short header this engine got.
What kind of results would you expext with the same set up on a vq35hr?
Im pretty set on going the stillen s/c route since that is the only kit available to the HRs other than the aam tt setup and that is $10,000 before tuning, install and motor work.
Once i added up my planned n/a build i just couldnt stand the thought of spending 6000-7000+ and thats just parts with out labor included on stuff i cant do myself. for maybe 325hp when the stillen kit with custom tune will put me in the 380-400ish with custom tune. Another plus is i should be able to install the stillen kit myself which will save me ton more money over other options.
whats the cost of the cams and install?
Cam install would be very expensive. Many hours of labor from a skilled tech. I'd say 10 hours labor minimum.
@@roundearthshill248 I paid $3185 at RZG Motorsports in New Bern North Carolina. Everything is included for that price!
@@bigdogstreetperformance6761 thanks brother. That’s expensive but maybe not as bad as I’d thought it would be. Wonder how many hours it took them
Sounds about right , but also refreshing water pump, timing components and gallery gaskets at the same time while it's open. So overall not too bad.
What would y’all recommend shorty headers or long tubes
So without cams im assuming this would be making around 350whp?
Assuming you've already got a catback and test pipes or HFCs seems this is tricky science and $ as some have tried 550cc injectors, intakes, and Z1 upper/lower plenums only to achieve modest gains over just doing the upper plenum and intakes. Without the cams the cumulative effect starts costing more but not producing much more gains.
😆😆😆 probably
Shiii I'm using stock 370z (310cc) injectors on my DE at WOT I'm at 68% duty cycle I made 260hp on a junkyard motor from an M35.
Do people perfer he heads for big power Becuase it doesn’t have vvl? Or what’s the reason? Could you shed some light on hr heads vs vhr heads
VHR heads have the VVEL. HR heads don't, so if you wanted to go to the trouble of an HR head swap, you the extra displacement of the 3.7 w/ the capability to put a big cam in the intake and exhaust, not just the exhaust as done here.
Lol I'm sitting at 342 whp and 297 torque with just z1 intake, z1 test pipes, Armytrix exhaust and uprev arc tune
your big mistake is that over prices armytrix that puts out less power than other cheap exhaust smh
@@mrsantosjon lmao. Check your facts. I was sitting at 318 whp just from exhaust and intake alone no tune or test pipes. Armytrix produces 30 whp without tune alone.
@@mrsantosjon only ppl that hate on Armytrix are those that can't afford it and stand by the "tomei dahhh" lmao.
@@RageToDeath isr but nice try. lol 3k on stock looking exhaust that just has a valve that changes the sound smh. I got enough for a tune and extra dough I think I did a smart decision :D
@@mrsantosjon keep hating buddy. It's aight. Stock looking? Lmao. Ok. =}
Is this on 93 or E85?
So how much would it cost to do this to my 370Z?
Parts + labor
I wouldn’t doubt close t $8,500. The tune & Dyno alone can run anywhere’s from $400-$1,000.
Looks like eps 70mm TBs aswell. This is my goal with my '14 Q60
Very NICE numbers! Good job guys.
Thank you
Its crazy how a stock LS with a $400 cam makes 100hp gains and this cost thousands
That's crazy. I kind of feel guilty for doubting that one TH-cam user who claimed to have a 380 whp Z.
Don't. If it's who I think it is, you're right to call bullshit. He's never had anything to validate any claim he's ever made.
This is why I recommend Z1
People don’t realize a tune with e85 has a lot to do with this.
Especially the torque.
Yeap that was my suggestion a few months ago... Detonation is no longer and issue.
Stock compression, no boost - e85 does not give much in this configuration.
Im suprised that they run e85.
What fuel ?
Just in case someone wants the music is Thorr underdogs
What shift knob is that?
Sick!🤘🏻
What was AFR at peak?
The record was broken today by rzg motorsports on a q60 3.7. 3 in intakes long tube headers, agency power y-pipe, and tomei exhaust.
Made 382 whp and 305 torque on e85.
What kind of dyno?
@@johnpowers4076 RZG damn autocorrect
What mods?
@@bigdaddy5629 intake, long tube headers, y pipe and tomei exhaust
Insane!
damn i want to see that thing on some mexico runs! i bet its a monster!
This cam only available for non rev up g35?I don't see any for 07 coupe g35
This is a VHR, so the camshafts we used here are NOT compatible however there are plenty of camshaft options. Give us a call and we'd be happy to walk you through your options.
Will this fit on a g37 rwd sedan?
it will. I've got a '13 g37 sedan with the z1 race intake with carbon fiber tubes and ported plenum, afe tb spacers, custom exhaust, and uprev tune. Lots of suspension components and bracing as well. Usually, if there is a part made for the 370, it'll fit or there is a g37 version.
And the total cost is???
i was looking into it and my estimate with all the mods excluding the exhaust would be around 5k. In my opinion with all the other things included it would just be easier to go forced induction.
Never seen a bolt on 370 with 299 torque, they all max out around 275, impressive if true.
It’s cammed with ported manifolds and e85
@@oneillvittini144 Still thats ~345 torque at the crank, about 75 more than stock.
nighthawk0077 what are you talking about 345 torque some guy made 380 not too long after this on stock cams it was a rzg q60
oneill vittini why are you quoting a 3.0 twin turbo when we are talking about 3.7 NA engine? Are u ok?
nighthawk0077 are you dumb who said anything about vr30 numbers this video is on vq37s lmao do you need a link to the video ?
It's using e85 so why is this power surprising? Most cars gain 20-30HP on e85. Plus it has cams so increased rev limit on top of that. I would be surprised if it didn't make this type of power with those mods
Corn is only worth about 10whp on these engines, and we kept the car at stock rev limit. The factory oil pump won't really hold any more and I didn't upgrade it.
Holy shiiii did y’all just shift at 8,500 WTFFF
7500
I need to add the cams to my car.
3:43
Had a pause there at 7500 rpm
which jwt cams did he go with? link?
He got JWT C2 cams.
www.z1motorsports.com/camshafts-and-valvetrain/jwt/jwt-c2-exhaust-camshaft-set-370z-g37-vq37vhr-p-12873.html
Needs a a full TomeiTi exhaust and I can bet you it will closer to 400whp still sounds restricted with that exhaust.
nope tomei wont make anymore gains...
Any single exist would be more than a dual for this application.
@@jgonzalez4846 no sir. just because a tomei is loud as fuck doesnt mean you will see any more gains... maybe 1-3hp max.
tomei sounds sick but wont push it nowhere near 400whp..a dual exit exhaust would have more gains but not by much.
@@BigKfishing i said ANY single exist..theres other options than tomei ....its been proven singles give u that extra bit.Im not referring to just a tomei.
The dyno says "at engine". The thumbnail says "RWHP".
It says "at engine RPM = 7.27", essentially saying that the max power (376whp) is found at 7,270 RPM.
Did Jon tune this?
Yup yup🧙♂️💻
And how much did that cost?
In theory this should make like 750hp at 15psi... that’s wild
Pretty solid guess. Not quite 750, but it is > 700 at 15-16psi
@@Will-xp6jh Sweet!
Here’s the math behind the guess: ((14.7/15)+1 )*375.95=746.36hp
This assumes that the car maintains the same afr, atmospheric pressure and temperature at every rpm. Which looking back at this… I made way too many assumptions!
@@lilman227 It made 704 @ ~15psi. Your formula seems to check out to at least get a very close estimate.
@@Will-xp6jh Thanks! It’s a decent estimate up to 30psi + or minus 6%, then I have to change the formula.
Any videos up with the car on boost? Sounds like it’s a crazy build now!
@@lilman227 Not on here
What is the total cost for that kit?
So sad we cali people cant do most of these power mods no more 😭😭😭😭
Imagine if he had a better header/exhaust set up. He should go get fast intentions long tube headers and exhaust. 18”resonators will make it sound better too.
You should offer dollars over opinions. That would be worth far more. FI long tube headers have shown to not really make power. The Z1 headers were on the old record car. Maybe you should have at least a tiny inkling of what you're talking about before you start flapping your gums.