**NEW VIDEO HERE** th-cam.com/video/ArI16TEKbo8/w-d-xo.html *[TIMECODE]* 0:53 - General Overview 3:02 - Important Light Output Test Reasoning 4:47 - Light Output Test+ 5:43 - Bottom Line 1 (Softbox Hotspot) 8:16 - Bottom Line 2 (Who is it for?) 10:52 - Bottom Line 3 (For Beginners?) *[AFFILIATE LINKS]* Use of my affiliate links gives me a little commission at no cost to you, this directly helps support this channel so I can continue making fun videos for you! Thank you so much! Square Softbox: amzn.to/39ZdRiZ [] ebay.to/34yo6IW Circular Softbox: amzn.to/2vxwkEk [] ebay.to/3einKLi *With Grid* (Neewer currently sold out, Kamerar version linked for now) Square: amzn.to/2IV1UPo [] ebay.to/2xflUtX (Larger Opening for future) Circular: amzn.to/3b4YBBb [] ebay.to/2yboiSB Softbox Carrying Bag amzn.to/3a0vsaj Neewer RGB 660 amzn.to/2vlrWrD Neewer 660 2.4ghz amzn.to/37e2LEG Kastar NPF Batteries amzn.to/2ShXLLC ebay.to/2MHgQS6 Light Stands amzn.to/38hD9YP *[FAQ]*
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I love the concept of your channel and your deep analysis at the end. So many TH-camrs just say "this is great. You should buy it." Even channels I love do that often. But, getting the analysis of many use cases and what to pick for each are amazing. Thanks!
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Wow! What a great video. I prefer the look of the circular soft box when you did the test with you in front of the camera. It's also nice that you can leave the barn doors on with that version. With so many other videos I've watched, they said you have to take barn doors off to be able to use the square soft boxes that Neewer now sells with the 660 led panel. I don't want to unscrew barn doors because it defeats the purpose of me buying lights with barn doors. Anyway GREAT video! Thank you for this.
Hey hey WhitneyStylez! Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting! Definitely keeping the barn doors is nicer than having to take it off all the time. This is an older video and I actually did a follow up that shows a cheaper method that actually gives better light depending on your needs. The video can be found here: th-cam.com/video/ArI16TEKbo8/w-d-xo.html Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
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Was legit so confused on lighting setups but this walkthrough is perfecttttt. Answered all my questions and more. Def going the 2pack setup, circular soft box to start. Thanks again mate.
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Definitely! It really gives these LED panels a good second life cause I always hated setting up another C-stand to diffuse an LED panel at the right angle. So much space gets taken up. These are definitely quick and dirty. Now we just need Neewer to make a larger 36" circular one and make a powerful 100-150W flood beam LED to go with it. If priced right, it would go right up against the 120d with a bowens softbox but at a much cheaper price point
Hi there, I'm impressed! nice video! You know what I used to hate when some videos suggested one products and that's all. But these days I see all the TH-cam videos are extremely confusing if you haven't see 50 of them what to buy! But today your video suggesting directly what to buy at the end of the video not only impressed me I did press that purchase, like and subscribe button all together. thanks again I just came back editing this since just watched another cool videos of you, I’m LED specialist since 2008, LED panels for offices, shops or industrial applications. Get this from me when LED modules manufactures in same clean rooms of highest quality factories with those million dollar machinery there is no guaranty that two manufactures batches of led modules match up! I’m surprised that Aputure keep that consistency, There should be no more than one led module manufactures in the world can do that for Aputure. Keep up the good job
Hey hey Mosen! Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting! I'm so glad this video was useful and that you liked my thoughts towards the end on what I'd suggest based on needs! I try my best to do so when I can think of it. Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
@@TLDR_filmmaker Hey Thanks a lot for taking the time to replying me back. Since yesterday I got to know you I've been keep watching at least 15 videos! I loved every single of them, take care and be safe. You just got a big fan!
Thanks for explaining it the way you did, I wasn't going to get light boxes but the shadow issue makes perfect sense. I'm new to lighting but I think you just saved me some time and cash.
You're most welcome! Yup all you really gotta do is just get the softbox as close to you as possible while its still outta frame, adjust the light output as needed for your exposure. And all will be good with shadows and softness of light. Of course depending on your needs you can play around with the light placement and camera placement and experiment to see what will work best for you in your space. But the lightning principle for softlight is still the same, "larger illuminated surface area placed up close, out of frame, to the talent or object." Have fun!
Hey hey Австралия Без Купюр! Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting! So glad this video was helpful and that I covered a topic you hadn't heard before! Spot and Flood definitely have their uses, this is why the tried and true Arri Fresnel Tungsten kit was every filmmakers best friend to learn lighting because it was able to spot or flood from the same light housing, you also had various degrees of power to work with and diffuse! Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
Very Informative Video, I want to buy these to light my Green Screen, would you recommend me to buy the softbox?? or only the lights will do the job??!!!
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Great video! Another reason I would want a circular softbox is that I'm a big proponent of having an eye catchlight reflection that mimics the roundness of the sun.
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Hey hey bagybachi! Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting! I'm so glad this video was helpful! I will continue to do my best with my content and reviews! This video is a bit older and I have made a newer one about diffusing the Neewer 660. You can find that video here: th-cam.com/video/ArI16TEKbo8/w-d-xo.html Hope this further helps! Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
Thank you for this. I also found your previous video, covering the collapsible soft boxes, VERY USEFUL. You even managed to put the Neewer RGB on my radar. xx
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Hey hey LA Carbon Fibre TV! Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting! Glad this video helped! There are gridded versions linked in the description of a different branding but essentially the same thing. Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
@@TLDR_filmmaker thank you, I tried the links just now but doesn’t come up with the product. Maybe it’s out of stock in the Uk. I’ll try searching for it
If you would add mounting hole information it would be great... some of us are new and don't know if there are standards are not. I had to bounce around from site to site... I'm hoping that B&H is accurate.
Hey hey Sekrit! Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting! If you're talking about light stand mounting hole, this is standard and any light will mount to a light stand. If you're talking about the softboxes velcro mount and opening, this is not standard and you will want to look at the dimmcensions for the opening to fit whatever LED panel you decide to purchase. The Square is designed for the 660 series without the need of barn doors. The circular one will require you to leave your barndoors on so that you can strap it together. Hope this helps. Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
I really enjoyed your comparison, and review. ❤️ After watching your video, I was glad that I went with the Circular Softbox. ❤️ I bought the 660 RGB PRO because of CRI of 97. ❤️ Quick question : Your Sony A7S iii is a super expensive camera, and the lens as well, however, personally I feel the video in this review doesn't do it justice ? Is that right ? I felt the lighting could have been stronger, and then it would produce a clearer image ? Or was it just TH-cam compression ? Cause my feeling is that your camera could have produced far better results. 😀👍
Hey hey Tech We Love! Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting! So glad you liked this video and that it was helpful! As for the camera, I know not many people look at the date of upload, but this was well before the A7Siii was announced and released. This talking head was shot with the Sony A7iii, and the b-roll done with the GH5. To see where I am with the A7Siii check my most recent three videos with the new lighting setup :) I finally had time to tear down and reorganize my studio, its been a crazy year but finally had time. Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
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Super helpful. Do you mind sharing how you used lighting for this video? It looks like you have a 45 degree panel above you to your left and I'm not sure if you are using a filler or not but your lighting is awesome! Thank you for helping noobs like me!
Hey hey mbphd! Thank you so much for checking out this video and asking a question! You are correct, I am using a 4 light bulb socket softbox on my left placed approx 45 degree above. I believe in this version of my setup I only had one or two 100w light bulbs in it. Put the diffusion layer on it. And I have a white poster board on my fill side. Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
@@TLDR_filmmaker Thank you so much for responding! It would be awesome if you can make a video about that so noobs can see how far you place key and fill lights, and how high above you, etc! Your explanation and content is awesome. Thanks again!
You're most welcome! Already did. This is a full beginners setup from start to finished with everything you need to know including audio and camera settings: th-cam.com/video/__dsOEMzrVA/w-d-xo.html Hope this further helps!
Hey hey again lampofilm! I hope not, my guess is stock and production are still slow due to the world situation. Hopefully we see some more coming in soon!
Thanks for your video, one question, how feasible or possible is it to use these lights as softbox strobes for intra or extra oral photography, would they be useful, or is it more for artistic photography and videos?
I would say you want to stick with photography strobes so that you can get a higher shutter speed on your camera. These video lights may not be powerful enough to take photos not on a tripod, so your images could have a slight blur to them if you or the subject moves slightly during the shot.
I can't believe how much your video is a perfect introduction to my very recent need (one week ago!) to learn as much as I can about LED panels and methods to diffuse the light. I have been asked to set up lights to record a single speaker. I was directed to the Neewer 660's by a friend. Your recommendation for a large circular softbox (I'm going with the Kamerar because the Neewer is unavailable) could not have come at a better time for me. In the video and in a comment below you mention that the 660's still produce a slight hot spot even with the softbox. Can you expand further on the idea of using a "concave" gel under the softbox? Any other ideas to get a more diffuse key light and reduce the shadows? I'm also considering the 660 SMD, by the way. Thanks again for a very informative and easy to follow video!
Hey hey John! Thank you so much for checking out this video and asking a question! So glad to hear this video was helpful! The "concave" diffusion paper or just plain wax paper, you essentially will use some spring paper clips (The black one with two silver pinch handles) and try to find a way to clip that onto the light so that the wax paper bows out and away from the LED like the letter "U". Not too much as you will then need to make sure it doesn't rest up against the softbox inside. I would say a 4-6 inch bow should be sufficient. In terms of lighting up the speaker and trying to eliminate shadows, you will most likely want to have a second light for your "fill light". This one isn't turn up as bright so that it helps "fill" in the shadows on the persons face. Lastly to try and get the most soft looking light on a persons face as possible, you want to move that light as close to them as possible without it entering your cameras frame. It may not seem like its suppose to work that way, but it does. The closer you move it to the subject, the "larger" it is relative to his distance away from it. Think of it this way, remember as a kid you pretended to pinch someones head that was standing much further away, but you wouldn't be able to do it if they stood right in front of you? Same concept. Lastly I'm not sure what filming situation you are in, but you plan to use 660's that are diffused, I would suggest staging the speaker recording in a pretty dark room. If you are in a bright corner office, these lights probably won't do much if its combating sun light. LED Panels of this range (30ish watts) will be most useful when you are starting in a nearly dark room. I would youtube up "basic 3 point lighting" to get an idea of how you are going to setup your 660s. Hope this helps! Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
Oh man, I bought a circular one but discovered the opening is waaay too large to fit my Aputure HR672W. I'm going to tape velcro strips to the back of my light and get full length velcro straps for the softbox. Hopefully that will work.
Hey hey Stanley! Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting! Aw man, yea the HR672 series would work if it had some barn doors or something. Hope your idea works! If not you might want to try just getting some rulers or meter stick and just form some sort of horizontal frames (antenna like) so that the softbox can use that to press itself against the light via its own velcro straps. A lil DIY elbow grease, but nothing too crazy! Good luck! Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
Hi there, love your videos btw. Also love the fact that you are almost responding to everyone's comments. That's crazy considering how many comments you must get! I'm trying to film myself speaking but with a wider angled shot of my room. I'm not sure if I should get one Neewer 660 LED with softbox, or two Yongnuo 300 Air's (hence have 2 lighting points). Which would light up my room and face better?
Hey hey Kwong! Thank you so much for checking out this video and asking a question! Its really going to depend on a few factors. 1) How wide are we talking about? I my example it was approx a Medium shot at 30% brightness in a fully controlled lighting environment, meaning that I was in a completely dark room and only used the Neewer 660 with softbox. If you are starting in a completely dark room you will have some power to spare 2) If you are going wider so that you can see down to your hips or past to your knees, you may need to move that light about another 1-2ft back. Its not a big deal to do so but as the light gets further away from you the shadows become harsher on you. Making having two lights to soften the shadow side more needed. But the problem is I have not tests the yongnuo, but based off the paper specs, its got less LED chips, half of them are one color and half the other color, so you will be taking a light decrease compared to the 660s. Not only that the Yongnuo has a built on diffusion cover where as the neewer you can take that off to then take advantage of the softbox diffusion instead and put more power through it, if you used these softbox on the yongnuo you will lose even more output and could run into problems if your camera and lens combination doesn't support decent high ISO exposure settings. These are the things I think of based on your needs. Generally speaking when working with lower powered LED panels, you always want to start in a dark room. Thats where these panels offer the most flexibility. The other way is to use a window as your main light source and then have the LED panel be the "fill side". There are many approaches to lighting from full control to some control. Depending on which situation you are in, you will need to experiment and learn how to work in each situation to get the results you want. I hope to complete some lighting tutorial videos sooner than later :) Hope this helps! Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
@@TLDR_filmmaker Wow thanks for such a thorough response. Greatly appreciate it. If you could see me, I'm bowing profusely and thanking you. Keep up the amazing work! There are a lot of newer people learning about all this stuff. Not sure what stage most of your subscribers are at, but I love how you do give you give tailored advice to beginners vs more experienced people.
You're most welcome! I think my subscribers span a very large range from beginners and pros that are more skill than me by many decades in the film industry. I try my best to understand the questions coming in and respond accordingly so that it helps them on their process. A full video tutorial will definitely make it easier to explain as I can show what I mean haha. But until I finally make that video, I am happy to try and get to every comment possible :) I will continue to do my very best here with my content, until then, stay safe and healthy and keep learning all you can about this craft, its a lot of fun!
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Hey hey Robert! Thank you so much for checking out this video and asking a question! They do make a grid, however it seems like that version has been sold out for quite some time, not sure when these will get back in stock :( Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
Thanks for the great video a lot information. Just one question if I go with the circular soft box using the Neewer 660, will I have the spot light in the middle or the light will be fill the the whole circle soft box.
Hey hey huandoy52! Thank you so much for checking out this video and asking a question! Yes, as I show in the video, the center is technically brighter. but is this going to be a big deal where someone will notice it in a video when lighting someone. Most likely not, it will still diffuse the light from bare LEDs. Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
Hey hey Leah! Thank you so much for checking out this video and asking a question! This depends on what your style of food photography is. If you are getting up very close to the plate, then these softboxes can be brought in super close so that you get a nice softer look. If you are looking to show the entire plate on a dinner table, it may not be a large enough source and you'd have to go more traditional with larger softboxes. Again this really really depends on your style, you may like a more contrast photo for dramatics. For me I'm referencing what I'm used to seeing in food photos which are generally lit very bright and even. Hope this makes sense. Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
Hi! This is a great review! We just received our kit and it looks so professional and well made. But I wanted to know if u can share a link where I can get the batteries. My kit didn’t had them. Thank u!
Hey hey CristinayNataliaDuo! Thank you so much for checking out this video and asking a question! The specific battery that I use is this one made by Kastar, the no longer sell my version but this is an updated version: amzn.to/2ShXLLC Here is the original video of why I choose this specific battery and how I charge them without having to buy multiple chargers: th-cam.com/video/wIBOgBcaoNg/w-d-xo.html (These are my affiliate links, by using this link I get a small commission that directly supports the channel at no additional cost to you. If you choose the link I sincerely appreciate your support of the channel, Thanks!) Hope this helps! Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
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Awesome review, will definitely come to this channel first when looking for this kind of gear review in the future. I do have a question if you have time the answer, since the Neewer variety is sold you, would you recommend the circular w/ grid from the other company you linked? Or wait for the Neewer to get back into stock. Looking for a box for my 660s I already own.
Hey hey Andrew! Thank you so much for checking out this video and asking a question! The Kamerar brand is essentially the same thing with the only difference that I can tell is that the Kamerar comes with a little plastic slide clip on the magnetic rods to ensure the magnets always start ridged once you set it up. But other than that they are more or less the same product just different branding. It seemed in the past since this review that the Neewer circular one was constantly out of stock and only replenished rarely, if you need one right away, probably easier to just get the Kamerar version. Hope this helps! Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
A great video... I have always loved my octagonal softboxes, but it's just not practical to use my older 1000 watt continuous lights these days. I have a small squarish softbox for my LED light, but to find a round softbox with a grid at a reasonable cost has been something I have searched for. When funds allow, I am going this direction. I am curious.. what light bigger than the Neewer 660 might you recommend to go with the round softbox?
Hey hey Hamid! Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting! Unfortunately right now there isn't a whole lot of budget larger LED panels, all the budget companies right now are all producing the same 45-50 watt LED panel equivalent all about the same size. Some name brands out there have panels that are either the traditional 1x1 or larger that can pump out 100w or more, but it'll definitely cost a bit. There is a larger more powerful neewer panel light here: amzn.to/2zpLqgI (This is my amazon affiliate link, by using this link I get a small commission that directly supports this channel at no additional cost to you. If you choose the link I sincerely appreciate you support this channel Thanks!) But it's not a traditional square shape, so using it light the softbox may be a little interesting. And because it has a lens on each LED diode, the beam may not be flood enough to try and negate a hotspot (if that is a concern for your work) Hope this helps! Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
@@TLDR_filmmaker Looks like the 660 is the best option for the moment and the round softbox may still be useful down the road. Thank you... you are appreciated!
Hey hey again Bert! You're most welcome! I'm so glad this video was helpful for you! I need to search for some larger more powerful LED panels for the circular one. The circular being a 21" softbox isn't bad at all. I hope neewer makes a 32" version or something, that would be wicked if it works. Paired with a powerful enough LED Panel, at the right price, it would be a great alternative to the Aputure 120D bowens softbox combo. Thanks again for stopping by and I'll see you in the next one!
Hey hey Nicole! Thank you so much for checking out this video and asking a question! Do you mean just attaching them to a LED panel or just general lighting setup? The Collapsing of these softbox is very cumbersome, and as I said in the video, I don't know if they will hold up with that much repeated twisting. For me I leave them open and just have them inside a large artist tote. But otherwise for the square one you gotta grab the corners and then twist twist twist until it gets back into a ball. Its a little easier to do with the circle one. Hope this helps! Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
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for a YT content creator/live streamer would you recommend 1 neewer rgb panel with a circular softbox for the keylight and 2 neewer bi-color panels with square softboxes for fill and hair lights? should all 3 have honeycomb modifiers? thanks in advance and keep up the great work on the channel
Hey hey Steven! Thank you so much for checking out this video and asking a question! This would depend on what kind of shot you are going for for your channel. If your shot is like mine where its closer and you don't see more of my torso. Than these 660 lights paired with the softbox will be enough. You may not actually need a softbox for the hair light depending if you want a harsher look. The honeycomb is not necessary depending on what room you're in. If there is a lot of room behind you and you don't want like to go into that area, you use the honeycomb on your key, not necessarily fill as the fill usually won't be blashing light as brightly. If you are near a wall (2-3 feet). You do not need to use a honeycomb as it does not really do much in that respect. A honeycomb you are directly light in a direction so that you don't fill the sides of you with light if you don't want to. This is all to taste, but this is the general idea of what they do. So I can't say for sure if you should or shouldnt, thats going to be up to you and experimenting with your lighting setup. Its not a bad idea to get the honeycomb for the circular. I feel the square ones you probably don't need to, especially the hair light. But if you want to, it never hurts to have options if it doesn't tear into your budget. Hope this helps! Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
@@TLDR_filmmaker the shot will normally always be a talking head style. some times I'll be doing a demo/zoom style video where the lights will be attached to the desk so pretty close to me, other times on their stands where I'll be about 2-3 ft away with a grayish wall behind me. I think the 3 panel lights with soft boxes should work out correctly I hope so anyways lol
Hey hey Stefano! Thank you so much for checking out this video and asking a question! Simply mount the light through the horizontal hole instead of the vertical one that most people naturally mount a light with. And thats it! Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
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Thanks so much for your review? We'll these accommodate a smaller softbox with the velcro straps? I have the Neewer 240s which are smaller than the 660s.
Hey hey Everest! Thank you so much for checking out this video and asking a question! I don't think the smaller softbox will work because its opening is about 10 inches x 10 inches. While test you can probably latch it onto the light, a decent chunk of your LED's will be blocked. I can't think of any specific softboxes that would work with this more fluidly. Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
Great video! Very clear and helpful explinations. Hoping you can help me with a question. I am looking for a pair of soft lights to illuminate a green screen. I am thinking of getting the 660's with square softboxes. Do you think they would work well for that or are there better options for this price?
Hey hey Pheem Music! Thank you so much for checking out this video and asking a question! There are more practical cheaper solutions for a green screen that I would recommend, a LED panel like this is a bit overkill on the budget for what you get out of it in terms of lighting a green screen. I would suggest getting something like this: amzn.to/2KtAoct (You'll need to buy its own light stand) and I use these LED light bulbs: th-cam.com/video/p-rDtf2Jra8/w-d-xo.html (Or you can purchase different more powerful ones) This setup gives you a softbox thats larger than this square softbox for the LED panels, it also gives you much more light output than the 660s can give. And at the end of the day, for less than the price of one panel and softbox you are able to light up the entire green screen. The reason I would go this route is because chances are your green screen, once it's setup, isn't going anywhere. The 660 panels have other features do not apply for the green screen, so you'd be wasting money on that vanity. Of course you can mix and match, instead of having a bunch of 660s, you can use the cheaper softbox to light the green screen and then use the 660s as lights to light yourself. But, even then, if the green screen is going to be setup in its own space, I would just continue with the softbox route for lighting yourself. LED panels are more or less meant for portability between your studio and a film set. If your studio is the film set, then I would just save the money so that you can get more lights, more power, work on the content, and then eventually invest in something more expensive if needed. But for the most part, a green screen setup is pretty much left stationary and never really changes. Hope this makes sense and helps! Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one! (These are my affiliate links, by using this link I get a small commission that directly supports the channel at no additional cost to you. If you choose the link I sincerely appreciate your support of the channel, Thanks!)
Thank you so much for this informative video. I'm wanting to start a TH-cam channel where I do music videos. Those videos will mainly be inside and use backdrops. Do you think the neewer 660 with the round softboxes are the best option for me?
Hey hey Shawn! Thank you so much for checking out this video and asking a question! Are the music videos just you in the video? Or are you looking to light up a standard 4 person setup? If it's just you and you make sure to draw all the window curtains, these 660's will do. However I would also suggest you check out some 60w powered lights as they will give you more output and end up spending less money overall than these panels. I have a review on 60w options here: th-cam.com/video/3drVUZ5LWPI/w-d-xo.html I'd recommend the GODOX and then buying either diffusion curtains or a 5 in 1 reflector and shoot the light through it (Light 1-2ft away from diffusion). This will produce a much softer light with less harsh shadows compared to the neewer 660 softbox setup. These Panel softbox setups are more for closeup shots while the Godox setup will help for more full body shots. I am working on a lighting tutorial series soon that will hopefully help and demonstrate these concepts. But there are other videos out there that discuss you, it just may be harder to find as they are more general. Hope this points you in the right direction though! Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
James Wong this would give you a more directional quality especially with the grid. The umbrella doesn’t have a backside so it just bounces light everywhere
Hey hey Brenton! Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting! Solid setup! Yea, Id say both are really difficult to close. so I just leave them flat and put them into a large zip up folio. Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
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Hey hey Eleven16Media! Thank you so much for checking out this video and asking a question! The 960 RGB light is longer than the opening on the back of the circular softbox. So while it will fit, there will be 1/5 of your LED's that will be blocked off and won't make it into the softbox. I believe Neewer has their own 960 softbox (don't know if its square or round) for that LED. Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
Hey hey Jeremy! Thank you so much for checking out this video and asking a question! Honestly when it comes down to it, either one will work for an at home setup. It's really only the more seasoned people that would probably prefer the SMD version. Essentially the trade off is this. Non-SMD = more light power SMD = less light power If you are just doing a talking youtube head like my review videos. Either one will work just fine. The SMD happens to have color modes. But if you plan to use the SMD for your face, then the color modes are moot as you won't be using them. Long story short, either one works, the difference in looks is most likely not noticeable to anyone. Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
Great video! This helped me choose for my TH-cam setup. I've spent days trying to figure out lighting and softboxes. I was going to go with a Godox SL60W but size is a big factor. Since I live in Japan and don't have the space for an 80-120cm softbox, this information was really helpful for a compact softbox. I want to have a more cinematic look to my lighting in my talking head videos and this looks like the best compact option. The tip about getting the RGB version of the 660 to fill the circular softbox evenly is gold. I know that having a spot beam in the middle of the circular softbox with the normal 660 would bug the hell out of me. Thanks so much!
Hey hey Lin! Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting! I'm so glad this video was helpful! That totally makes sense that these would be a better idea because of your room size, and the added bonus that you do not need to compete against fan noise (generally) with LED panels around this size and output. Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
Hey hey Marvin! Thank you so much for checking out this video and asking a question! I would not recommend these for a family portrait photographer because its won't give you much light to work with for a large setup. You would have to raise your ISO quite a bit to get a decent shutter speed to work with. For family portraits I would recommend to invest into flashes, they will do you much better than these video LED panels that are not as high powered for faster shutter speeds. Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
Great Video, Question: Is it good to have all ur lights as RGB then use as Bi color with dialing down the saturation on the panel when needed? or two Bi color and one RBG is recommended?
Hey hey Shiv! Thank you so much for checking out this video and asking a question! There is not good or bad, there is only "whats going to work for you". This is a question I get a lot, I can only recommend what I believe is the best "all rounder" kit. But that does not mean it's going to be what you specifically need because the RGB and bi-color have their different strengths. If you don't know why you want an RGB or how you want to use it, then theres no real reason for you to get one. If you do know why you want one, then you technically wouldn't need me to tell you my recommendation. So that being said, my idea of two bi-color and one RGB is the most versatile setup. But if you know exactly what you're going for, then my recommendation is not justified, you should buy for exactly what you want for your setup. I talk about this a lot in my "think critically series" as I get a lot of questions on my recommendations without much knowledge of what someone wants to use the tool for. This video I think will help as you move forward in your gear investment decision: th-cam.com/video/3zO9axytfK8/w-d-xo.html Hope this helps! Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
Hey hey again S Singh! Hahaha I have been thinking about what kind of content would be good during this time, cause idk if review videos are necessarily what people want to see. This Covid-19 is definitely doing its thing, the film I'm currently on has to postpone a lot of film dates we set aside. So I was busy with that and now I'm not, back to more youtube content for you all! If you have any fun video suggestions that you think would give everyone something fun to watch outside of what the media is presenting, let me know! I'd love to figure out how to help the community during this interesting time. Until then, you take care of yourself and stay healthy!
@@TLDR_filmmaker Might I suggest reviews based on the concept of doing remote work? Example. Web cameras and mics or lighting setups that make web casting look good. I know a few of my corporate clients asking me about tips because they are working from home and want to look good making company wide announcements without looking like they are in a bunker. Sometimes people just need to do something other than dwell on the Pandemic, or need a good distraction. Socializing online is a great way to do it, but people are still vain and want to stand out.
@@TLDR_filmmaker An interesting video would be comparing different editing software e.g. Davinci Resolve vs. Premiere Pro, maybe even FCPX. You could even throw some of the outliers in like Hitfilm.
Rockin' videos. Any info on whether or not the 2.4 ghz light will interfere with wifi or other devices? Do you know if the light is always emitting a 2.4 signal when turned on? This concern may be irrelevant, I'm new to lighting. Thanks in advance.
Hey hey Paul! Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting! As far as I'm concerned with these 2.4ghz wireless remotes (as well as all the 2.4ghz wireless mics I've reviewed) they will not interfere with wifi or other devices, if anything they may interfere with the remote because the signal that it has doesn't signal hop from what I can tell. Sometimes I may be 15ft away from the light in line of sight and it takes a second for the command to register. However a lot of lights now are using smartphone apps and those are definitely more responsive. But for the most part I would say it's not a major concern and in all honesty the amount of times where I've actually had to use the wireless remote features have been pretty rare. I think as you get used to lighting a subject and what you're lights are capable of, you won't need to readjust too much wirelessly. Thanks again for stopping by and I’ll see you in the next one!
@@TLDR_filmmaker thanks for taking the time to get back! based on your rare use of the remote it seems like the regular bi-color neewer 660's would be up my alley. they appear to be the same general specs/housing just without remotes or the upgraded 2-way mount system. is that correct?
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Hey thanks for the video! I had a question regarding your comments about event videography in here. When u said you’re “battling the natural light” what do you mean by that? Basically that these lights if u had them spread around the room for an event wouldn’t be able to do much compared to what that natural light is doing? I have an aputure 300d I’m trying to supplement with 2 lights to have a good 3 point set up. Would these do the trick for a hair and fill u think?
Hey hey Kaeroon! Thank you so much for checking out this video and asking a question! Correct, I feel after the panel lights go through the diffusion it may not be enough to act as a key light and to some extent may not be enough for a fill light depending on the natural light coming into the room whether it be the sun or artificial lighting. I feel this setup works best if you have full control of lighting in the room whether it is to start with a dark space or try and bring down the overall room luminosity. And of course it just depends on what your shot composition is, the wider the shot the less likely these lights will do the trick. Hmm, again if you have full control of the room lighting situation, I feel these could work well with the 300d that has a nice softbox or diffusion fabric in front. Hair light will depend on if you want a soft or harsh one. The Bi-color definitely can hit a nice harsh hair light since it's more spot beam in nature. But once you throw that softbox on it you'll have to balance out all three lights in conjunction with your camera settings to try and get the best quality. All and all, its a hard question to answer because you have this super powerful nearly 10x brighter 300d and then the very less powerful LED panel. These situations is where you need to know everything about what and how you're going to use the lights you have to get the result you want. Otherwise most people would purchase a 300d and two 120d so that the lights are in a relatively similar range of use and can be adapter to many many situations. The 10x gap is where you really need to nail everything down to the T to make it work. Hope this makes sense! Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
Hey hey Arif! Thank you so much for checking out this video and asking a question! Only the square one could work. However you are now double diffusing the 10" flapjack that isn't as powerful as the 660 panels, so your output is going to be quite low if you do it this way. Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
Again, thank you for the helpful review! Like several others have mentioned the tilting of the light is not possible with the softbox, but you said to flip the panel 180 degrees BUT then it is in a fixed position shooting the light straight out which is still bad, so that's not a great option either, unless you buy another piece to put in that allows you to tilt up and down. Is this the best (cheapest fix)?
Hey hey again Jeremy! I'm not sure what you mean... does your 660 not have a side mount? This shouldn't be the case. When you are in the side mounted position you have full tilt from pointing the light straight down and straight up. Again, look at the place where you connect the light to a light stand. There is the traditional vertical hole that you used, then there is a horizontal hole like I said before. Use the horizontal hole. Loosen the yoke. Attach the softbox to the light panel itself, do not overcross and connect the yoke with it too, I show this in the video. You should have full tilt in this orientation as it is designed to be use this way.
@@TLDR_filmmaker I see what you are saying...with the amazon "Neewer 2 Pieces Bi-color 660 LED Video Light and Stand Kit" the stand mounts different than yours in the video. Any ideas on how I can get these to actually tint with the new neewer setup?
I can't say for sure if the pictures don't look the same. In theory the 660 should all have the same horizontal mount. This feature has become standard in most budget lights since 2018.
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Hey hey TheTripleTKA! Thank you so much for checking out this video and asking a question! I have, granted its the 540(?) version but it'll give you an idea of the different in light power and color: th-cam.com/video/BTCsyGXeWl8/w-d-xo.html Both will do well for you, it just depends on if color is something you need or not. If you don't need colors for 95% of what you want to do, then the bi-color will serve you just fine. Hope this helps! Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
Hey hey Jamal! Thank you so much for checking out this video and asking a question! You're most welcome, so glad you enjoyed the review! As far as my understanding between the 480 - 660 models. The size of the panels are the same, but the number of LED chips are different. You should be good. Hope this helps! Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
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Thanks for testing out the different softboxes! I have watched this video a couple of times, but I am still not sure how to use the circular softbox. Do you use the barn doors to attach the circular softbox, or do you take of the barn doors? I have a set of bicolor 660 LEDs. Does this mean that I will only get a square-shaped light while using the circular softbox? Do I need a different LED to fully light the circular softbox?
Hey hey El Boyo Electronico! Thank you so much for checking out this video and asking a question! Yes, for the circular version you'll need to keep your barn doors on. If you want to be able to have more tilt while using these softboxes, you need to make your 660 panel is mounted through the horizontal mount opening instead of the vertical mount opening (light stand). While the bi-color 660 will work in either case, the circular will benefit more by being filled out fully. In which case the easy way to know if your LED will fill it out is if the LED's are just squares (completely exposed). These are SMD led's and have a much wider beam. If your LED's have little plastic domes over it, then your LED beam is more concentrated to the center. So for the circle softbox you'll want a more Flood beam to light up as much of the material as possible. Hope this helps! Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
@@TLDR_filmmaker Thanks for taking the time to answer my question! I only have one question left. Since don't have the SMD LEDs in my Neewer 660s and therefore have to work with the circular softbox not being fully lit, do you think the circular softbox was a bad choice in my case? Given that I will only use the circular softbox with the 660s for talking head videos, the light fall-off - since not fully lit - might hopefully not be a problem, because the they head will be the center of the shot. Or should I get the square softbox instead? Thanks in advance!
You're most welcome! Honestly I don't feel its a problem because a smaller square softbox isn't necessarily going to make it night and day better because you're now lighting a smaller surface area. So the light fall off won't be better because of that respect. The circular one, while this current time, isn't used to it's fullest capacity, should you upgrade your LED's later that are SMD based, you'll be good to go. I personally, like in the video, would just go for the circular ones first and only use the square as a supplement rather than the primary.
Great video! I am looking for a solution where I could lighten up a person walking across the room, etc. I figured someone holding the Neewer 660 + the softbox moving right in front of that person would be the cheapest and fairly good solution. Would you agree or rather recommend something else?
Hey hey David! Thank you so much for checking out this video and asking a question! The 660 with softbox combination would be one of the cheaper setups as I've talked about it before when Neewer had a much cheaper bi-color softbox combo, unfortunately that version of the light I believe is discontinued. Video here: th-cam.com/video/VKZN2sX5nbY/w-d-xo.html If you're able to find that light still, it would be my preferable setup even with the color accuracy being off a little bit. Hope this helps! Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
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I'm considering a neewer 660 bi-color rather than a 480 for self tape auditions. I want to add a flexible to be used as a fill or hair light. Your suggestion of an umbrella to soften is a good one. However a Softbox either square or round might work. Your thoughts? I've appreciated your videos. Thanks in advance- Jeff
Hey hey Jeff! Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting! The specific softboxes for the 660's are more convenient in terms of it being less of a contraption. However I feel the umbrella is still the better way to go to soften your facial features and look more pleasing. The square softbox is too small in my opinion and the round one is expensive compared to a umbrella. But also because with self tape auditions, they may request a wide short and you will have to move the light a little further back, making it not as soft when it hits your face. If the umbrella route is rather cumbersome to setup in your space. A cheap trick is a dollar store shower curtain (frosted type, not clear) and you place it about 2 feet away from the light. This will also give you a soft light to work with. Some people just tape it to the ceiling and let it drape down instead of using a light stand. This will also give you a very soft even light. Hope some of these ideas help! Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
will you recomend buying kit of 2 660 led from neewer + the two version of the softboxes? (one circular and one square and grid, so Ill have 2 light with 2 different softbox for mor option..) also I already have 2 small leds (316led and the apture mc) so they can be used for hairlight/backligth
Hey hey Ben! Thank you so much for checking out this video and asking a question! That's definitely the most versatile setup so that you have all the options. Of course it also depends on your budget at this time for what you need. If you only had the budget to buy one light, then I would say get the Circular Softbox. If this is part of your beginning developing lighting kit and you don't already have a large 5 in 1 reflector set. I would actually say get a 2x 660 kit, circular softbox, and a large 5 in 1 reflector. Reason is because of how versatile the 5 in 1 reflector set can be as you develop your lighting kit. Hope this helps! Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
Hey hey Damian! Thank you so much for checking out this video and asking a question! If the GVM panel measures approx 11x11, it will work with the square softbox. To have it work with the circular one you'll want to have the barn doors open. Hope this helps! Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
If you're looking for a panel style light like the Neewer 660s. You'll want to check out the Amaran P60x: geni.us/b1OARPy (affiliate link) If this is your first light then I would suggest the Amaran 60ds or 100ds to start: geni.us/LBJX (Affiliate link) The reason I say this should be your first light is because you are able to attach softboxes to it easily so that you can obtain a nice large soft light compared to panel lights which require a diffusion curtain setup to obtain the same effect. You can also purchase a bunch of other types of light modifiers to produce different types of light as well. All in all these COB LED lights are the most versatile compared to panel lights. Hope this helps!
I was thinking about getting one of these to replace my umbrella rig, but are they going to be better than the umbrella or should I just save up and keep using the umbrellas. I dislike the space the umbrellas use in some situations so I might still get one for those situations.
Hey hey again Mobile Chaos! If you have the traditional open unbrella's that are not enclosed to almost look like a regular COB softbox (more common for flashes) Then yes, these will be better in terms of overall control of the LED light. When you are shooting your LED panel through an open umbrella, you are spilling light into the scene on open parts of the umbrella. These softboxes will contain the light inside and illuminate the front diffusion giving you a bit more control of where the soft light is directed. That being said, especially during this current time. If the umbrellas have been doing well for you so far and you're happy with the result, it's probably a good idea to save up some money to eventually make your way up to other gear whether it be lenses, different types of lights, etc.
Hello, thank you for the review. I saw your last review video compare Neewer Bi-color 660 and Neewer Bi-Color LED Softbox. The Bi-Color LED Softbox has a wider range light area than the 660 with diffuser. I would like to know if the Bi-color 660 with the Circular Softbox will has the same range light area as the Bi-Color LED Softbox? Thank you
Hey hey Nadia! Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting! In terms of overall surface area they are about the same about the same, just different shape. In terms of which would I recommend overall, I would recommend the 660 setup if your budget allows because it is fanless and much better made than the Bi-Color LED softbox combo. However if you are on a budget and just need something to get started, the softbox combo is a great way to get started as you learn. Hope this helps! Thanks again for stopping by and I’ll see you in the next one!
I really like your videos, they are very helpful and i have enjoyed every single one of them, including this one! But in this case i will have to say that the test isn't as meaningful as i had hoped for. If the question wouldn't be which one to get, but rather if it would be worth it getting one of them at all, a few additional tests would have helped... Why? Because the softboxes dim down the light quite a bit and i really would have liked to see how the 660 would have performed with the diffusor installed AND dimmed down to the same exposure of the others, because i really think that dimmed down, the shadow would have looked softer too, probably not a lot, but still noticably. After all there would be less dynamic range involved. Also the highlights in your face would have been softer. Of course the softboxes will improve the softness of the key light regardless, but for us the question is, by how much compared to bare LED with diffusor plate. We are still on a very low budget and at the moment only the square ones are available in Germany, not sure if they are worth it, the circular one looked a lot better.
Hey hey Servus! Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting! This is definitely something I plan to tackle not specifically in this video as it brings in a major general note about softlight and how it can be achieved with various techniques. I primarily did just a constant LED output test with and without the Softbox so people can see just how much light gets cut at the first level, if you add the additional diffusion plate in front the LED it cuts down even further to the point where it will probably only be good for indoor complete controlled light situations. In this situation test situation if I were to dim down the LED to match what the softbox gives in terms of exposure, the shadows will become even harsher because I've cut down on overall output from the same distance and the light has a harder time wrapping around my face by the time it gets to me. If I were to full blast the light from the same distance and using an ND to compensate for the extreme overexposure, in theory it will be a softer image, not as soft as a softbox, but softer than a low dimmed - same distance - same source size. Its a crazy topic and I can't wait to dive into that video specifically. That being said, is the softbox worth it in the long run? Unfortunately it's a "it depends on your typical filming situation". While the Circular is definitely the better option, for me it comes down to convenience of setup. Because of it attaching onto the LED itself, I do not need to bring an additional light stand with a boom arm to hold a diffusion object in front of it. Hopefully in the future I can get an even more powerful wide beam LED panel behind it to use it more situations as a keylight for Med to Close ups. Hope this made sense, Thanks again for stopping by and I’ll see you in the next one!
hey man thanks for the great content. I just received the square soft box but I can't tilt the light anymore once on a tripod .how do you go around this problem.do you recommend any arm for it?
Hey hey Valerio! Thank you so much for checking out this video and asking a question! You're most welcome! So LED panels these days have two way of mounting onto a light stand (I'm assuming you meant this when you said Tripod). So the way you have mounted now is vertical, there is actually a horizontal opening on the LED light stand mounting point. Simply use that mounting hold instead and now your LED panel will be mounted horizontally. From there when you have the softbox on, you will have full tilting range. Hope this helps! Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
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I have the Neewer 480 RGB I need to eventually buy a circular softbox? or I need to both two for each leds. I don't know pretty much about Lights, shadow but I'm understanding the basic to get a good result.
Hey hey Manuel! Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting! You don't necessarily need the circular one. I have done an updated video on other diffusion options here: th-cam.com/video/ArI16TEKbo8/w-d-xo.html Hope this helps! Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
Hey hey again Sergio! In the future its probably better just to have your questions in one comment instead of two individual ones. Easier for you to track. I realized that I completely didn't understand your question when you asked this 5 months ago. The quick answer is, probably not. It'll throw some light with a softbox, but it most likely won't be enough and you'll have to raise your ISO quite a bit. You may want to look into the Godox ML60 if you need battery power. If you don't then you may want to look into the Godox SL60 or Amaran 100d. Hope this helps!
Im so new at this. I was wondering about your professional opinion. What do you think about the GVM RGB 800D vs Neewer 660 RGB ? They are both very similar. Was wondering which one you recommend?
Hey hey Mortgage Financing! Thank you so much for checking out this video and asking a question! I get asked this a lot and I still do not have a GVM 800d review unit to make the comparison. That being said these are my thoughts. Budget LED's these days in this class or power draw more or less all perform the same, neither one is going to be a huge difference where one is far superior. In theory the Neewer 660 could be a little brighter because it has more LED diodes, but if so again, probably not by much. So in short, buy the one that first your budget or whichever is on-sale. You most likely will not suffer a night and day difference like you would if you bought a Budget LED panel vs a budget COB led light. The two LED tech have different advantages and output. Hope this helps. Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
Hey hey Jim! Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting! This was the first video I made on these softboxes and the follow up is in the description. If you are wondering about the larger Circular one, you need to keep the barndoors on the panel so that the velcro has something to attach to. If you are using the square one, you'll need to take the barndoors off. Hope this helps! Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
Hey hey Emeline! Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting! So glad this helped, If you haven't seen the follow up video for this topic it can be found here: th-cam.com/video/ArI16TEKbo8/w-d-xo.html I checked out your channel randomly and from a classical hybrid dancer to another, loved your recent video! Super creative and well filmed, keep it up! Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
Very informative and interesting video. Thank you. Unfortunately this product is not available on Amazon currently. And on Amazon in Germany i cannot find it at all :-( Is there something similar around? Thank you :-)
Guten tag Helmut! Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting! You may want to check the Kamerar versions that I linked in the description, the neewer versions seems to be selling out and it's taking awhile to stock back in :( Thanks again for stopping by and I’ll see you in the next one!
Hey hey Smashi! Thank you so much for checking out this video and asking a question! The square wouldn't be compatible, but the circular one might be. I can't see a dimension measurement of the panel itself minus the barn doors. If the panel is about a 1'x1'x then the circular one should work. The only part about the Godox is if the yoke has a horizontal mounting point to the light stand. If it doesn't, then you won't really be able to get much tilt when the softbox is attached. Hope this helps. Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
Hey hey Baskey Vision! Thank you so much for checking out this video and commenting! Oh man, I'm sorry that you arn't able to get ahold of it in the UK :( I'm not sure why but most of the products even on eBay are only shipping in the USA and not available for worldwide shipping. I hope you'll be able to get something similar soon, I'll keep an eye out. Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
Do you have to remove the barn doors on the 660 to put on the softbox? There are no instructions and on your video, it looks like you put them over the barn doors, so it was very confusing.
Hey hey Bruce! Thank you so much for checking out this video and asking a question! For the square Softbox you technically could remove the barn doors, where as the larger circular one you'll need to keep the barn doors. I've personally left the barn doors on for both applications to give each softbox more resistance for the velcro bands. Hope this helps! Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
Hey hey Ross! Thank you so much for checking out this video and asking a question! The Neewer 660 takes NPF Batteries of any size. Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
Hey hey Sergio! Thank you so much for checking out this video and asking a question! Really depends on why type of dancing you are doing. Most traditional dance styles will want a sprung floor with marley. Ballroom and breakdancing need wood floors. Thanks again for stopping by! Stay safe, healthy, and I’ll see you in the next one!
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just because of your TL DR intro i subscribed, you are the opposite of clickbait, thank you!
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Dude the TLDR format is... really good.
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I love the square grid, it allows me to control the light a lot better, especially in tight areas
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Absolutely! Tight areas are always so tricky!
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You are seriously a natural and your reviews are excellent. All my purchasing decisions are going based on your videos. And so will these soft boxes using your affiliate links. Thank you!
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I love the concept of your channel and your deep analysis at the end. So many TH-camrs just say "this is great. You should buy it." Even channels I love do that often. But, getting the analysis of many use cases and what to pick for each are amazing. Thanks!
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Wow! What a great video. I prefer the look of the circular soft box when you did the test with you in front of the camera. It's also nice that you can leave the barn doors on with that version. With so many other videos I've watched, they said you have to take barn doors off to be able to use the square soft boxes that Neewer now sells with the 660 led panel. I don't want to unscrew barn doors because it defeats the purpose of me buying lights with barn doors. Anyway GREAT video! Thank you for this.
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Definitely keeping the barn doors is nicer than having to take it off all the time. This is an older video and I actually did a follow up that shows a cheaper method that actually gives better light depending on your needs. The video can be found here: th-cam.com/video/ArI16TEKbo8/w-d-xo.html
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@@TLDR_filmmaker Thanks for sharing the updated video! I can't wait to watch!
Dude, I can't stress enough how your reviews are way way better than the usual! Subscribed! I'm also buying the softbox :D
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This really helped me. I'm getting my kit together for historic cookery videos and now I know which soft box to buy next. Perfect. You are a star.
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Was legit so confused on lighting setups but this walkthrough is perfecttttt. Answered all my questions and more. Def going the 2pack setup, circular soft box to start. Thanks again mate.
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Imagine having you and this format as a teacher! (Im a teacher.)
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Oh man... if I was a teacher... a filmmaking teacher at that, the course would last one week at this pace with the the rest of the semester giving students time to play out their ideas and develop their style.
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This looks neat! Like a Mini Light Dome, perfect for travel or for quick set ups and tear downs !
Definitely! It really gives these LED panels a good second life cause I always hated setting up another C-stand to diffuse an LED panel at the right angle. So much space gets taken up. These are definitely quick and dirty. Now we just need Neewer to make a larger 36" circular one and make a powerful 100-150W flood beam LED to go with it. If priced right, it would go right up against the 120d with a bowens softbox but at a much cheaper price point
Hi there, I'm impressed! nice video! You know what I used to hate when some videos suggested one products and that's all. But these days I see all the TH-cam videos are extremely confusing if you haven't see 50 of them what to buy! But today your video suggesting directly what to buy at the end of the video not only impressed me I did press that purchase, like and subscribe button all together. thanks again
I just came back editing this since just watched another cool videos of you, I’m LED specialist since 2008, LED panels for offices, shops or industrial applications. Get this from me when LED modules manufactures in same clean rooms of highest quality factories with those million dollar machinery there is no guaranty that two manufactures batches of led modules match up! I’m surprised that Aputure keep that consistency, There should be no more than one led module manufactures in the world can do that for Aputure.
Keep up the good job
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I'm so glad this video was useful and that you liked my thoughts towards the end on what I'd suggest based on needs! I try my best to do so when I can think of it.
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@@TLDR_filmmaker Hey Thanks a lot for taking the time to replying me back. Since yesterday I got to know you I've been keep watching at least 15 videos! I loved every single of them, take care and be safe. You just got a big fan!
Thanks for explaining it the way you did, I wasn't going to get light boxes but the shadow issue makes perfect sense. I'm new to lighting but I think you just saved me some time and cash.
You're most welcome! Yup all you really gotta do is just get the softbox as close to you as possible while its still outta frame, adjust the light output as needed for your exposure. And all will be good with shadows and softness of light. Of course depending on your needs you can play around with the light placement and camera placement and experiment to see what will work best for you in your space. But the lightning principle for softlight is still the same, "larger illuminated surface area placed up close, out of frame, to the talent or object."
Have fun!
@@TLDR_filmmaker Great, thank you!!
Thanks! Very usefull explanation: never seen anyone mention the difference of Spot vs Flood LED panel.
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So glad this video was helpful and that I covered a topic you hadn't heard before! Spot and Flood definitely have their uses, this is why the tried and true Arri Fresnel Tungsten kit was every filmmakers best friend to learn lighting because it was able to spot or flood from the same light housing, you also had various degrees of power to work with and diffuse!
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Very Informative Video, I want to buy these to light my Green Screen, would you recommend me to buy the softbox?? or only the lights will do the job??!!!
OMG... THANK YOU for giving the key information up front!! Caused me to stay for the entire video and to subscribe!
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Again, love your channels format. It's such a great way to educate people. Keep it up, you're bound to blow!
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Great video! Another reason I would want a circular softbox is that I'm a big proponent of having an eye catchlight reflection that mimics the roundness of the sun.
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You're absolutely right, in one take I talked about that but apparently not in my best take haha.
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Well explained. So many videos out there, but finally found one that was useful for my doubts. Thanks.
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I'm so glad this video was helpful! I will continue to do my best with my content and reviews! This video is a bit older and I have made a newer one about diffusing the Neewer 660. You can find that video here: th-cam.com/video/ArI16TEKbo8/w-d-xo.html
Hope this further helps!
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Thank you for this. I also found your previous video, covering the collapsible soft boxes, VERY USEFUL. You even managed to put the Neewer RGB on my radar. xx
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You're most welcome! I'm glad to hear this video has been helpful as well as introducing the Neewer RGB panel to you!
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Great video. Really helped. I am going to buy the circular one. Just wondering if i can buy a grid for it for product videos
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Glad this video helped! There are gridded versions linked in the description of a different branding but essentially the same thing.
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@@TLDR_filmmaker thank you, I tried the links just now but doesn’t come up with the product. Maybe it’s out of stock in the Uk. I’ll try searching for it
If you would add mounting hole information it would be great... some of us are new and don't know if there are standards are not. I had to bounce around from site to site... I'm hoping that B&H is accurate.
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If you're talking about light stand mounting hole, this is standard and any light will mount to a light stand. If you're talking about the softboxes velcro mount and opening, this is not standard and you will want to look at the dimmcensions for the opening to fit whatever LED panel you decide to purchase. The Square is designed for the 660 series without the need of barn doors. The circular one will require you to leave your barndoors on so that you can strap it together. Hope this helps.
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I really enjoyed your comparison, and review. ❤️ After watching your video, I was glad that I went with the Circular Softbox. ❤️ I bought the 660 RGB PRO because of CRI of 97. ❤️
Quick question : Your Sony A7S iii is a super expensive camera, and the lens as well, however, personally I feel the video in this review doesn't do it justice ? Is that right ?
I felt the lighting could have been stronger, and then it would produce a clearer image ? Or was it just TH-cam compression ? Cause my feeling is that your camera could have produced far better results. 😀👍
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So glad you liked this video and that it was helpful! As for the camera, I know not many people look at the date of upload, but this was well before the A7Siii was announced and released. This talking head was shot with the Sony A7iii, and the b-roll done with the GH5. To see where I am with the A7Siii check my most recent three videos with the new lighting setup :)
I finally had time to tear down and reorganize my studio, its been a crazy year but finally had time.
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Another Great Video ! My favourite channel,such a joy to watch !
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I will definitely continue to do my best!
I bought the square box with your link. Good review.
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Instant like, comment, subscribe from the intro. I love the tl;dr format
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Super helpful. Do you mind sharing how you used lighting for this video? It looks like you have a 45 degree panel above you to your left and I'm not sure if you are using a filler or not but your lighting is awesome! Thank you for helping noobs like me!
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You are correct, I am using a 4 light bulb socket softbox on my left placed approx 45 degree above. I believe in this version of my setup I only had one or two 100w light bulbs in it. Put the diffusion layer on it. And I have a white poster board on my fill side.
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@@TLDR_filmmaker Thank you so much for responding! It would be awesome if you can make a video about that so noobs can see how far you place key and fill lights, and how high above you, etc! Your explanation and content is awesome. Thanks again!
You're most welcome! Already did. This is a full beginners setup from start to finished with everything you need to know including audio and camera settings: th-cam.com/video/__dsOEMzrVA/w-d-xo.html
Hope this further helps!
@@TLDR_filmmaker Thank you so much! 🙂
There out of stock on the round ones. I hope they didn't stop making them.
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I hope not, my guess is stock and production are still slow due to the world situation. Hopefully we see some more coming in soon!
Thanks for your video, one question, how feasible or possible is it to use these lights as softbox strobes for intra or extra oral photography, would they be useful, or is it more for artistic photography and videos?
I would say you want to stick with photography strobes so that you can get a higher shutter speed on your camera. These video lights may not be powerful enough to take photos not on a tripod, so your images could have a slight blur to them if you or the subject moves slightly during the shot.
I can't believe how much your video is a perfect introduction to my very recent need (one week ago!) to learn as much as I can about LED panels and methods to diffuse the light. I have been asked to set up lights to record a single speaker. I was directed to the Neewer 660's by a friend. Your recommendation for a large circular softbox (I'm going with the Kamerar because the Neewer is unavailable) could not have come at a better time for me. In the video and in a comment below you mention that the 660's still produce a slight hot spot even with the softbox. Can you expand further on the idea of using a "concave" gel under the softbox? Any other ideas to get a more diffuse key light and reduce the shadows? I'm also considering the 660 SMD, by the way. Thanks again for a very informative and easy to follow video!
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So glad to hear this video was helpful!
The "concave" diffusion paper or just plain wax paper, you essentially will use some spring paper clips (The black one with two silver pinch handles) and try to find a way to clip that onto the light so that the wax paper bows out and away from the LED like the letter "U". Not too much as you will then need to make sure it doesn't rest up against the softbox inside. I would say a 4-6 inch bow should be sufficient.
In terms of lighting up the speaker and trying to eliminate shadows, you will most likely want to have a second light for your "fill light". This one isn't turn up as bright so that it helps "fill" in the shadows on the persons face. Lastly to try and get the most soft looking light on a persons face as possible, you want to move that light as close to them as possible without it entering your cameras frame. It may not seem like its suppose to work that way, but it does. The closer you move it to the subject, the "larger" it is relative to his distance away from it. Think of it this way, remember as a kid you pretended to pinch someones head that was standing much further away, but you wouldn't be able to do it if they stood right in front of you? Same concept.
Lastly I'm not sure what filming situation you are in, but you plan to use 660's that are diffused, I would suggest staging the speaker recording in a pretty dark room. If you are in a bright corner office, these lights probably won't do much if its combating sun light. LED Panels of this range (30ish watts) will be most useful when you are starting in a nearly dark room. I would youtube up "basic 3 point lighting" to get an idea of how you are going to setup your 660s.
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Oh man, I bought a circular one but discovered the opening is waaay too large to fit my Aputure HR672W. I'm going to tape velcro strips to the back of my light and get full length velcro straps for the softbox. Hopefully that will work.
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Aw man, yea the HR672 series would work if it had some barn doors or something. Hope your idea works! If not you might want to try just getting some rulers or meter stick and just form some sort of horizontal frames (antenna like) so that the softbox can use that to press itself against the light via its own velcro straps. A lil DIY elbow grease, but nothing too crazy! Good luck!
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Hi there, love your videos btw. Also love the fact that you are almost responding to everyone's comments. That's crazy considering how many comments you must get!
I'm trying to film myself speaking but with a wider angled shot of my room. I'm not sure if I should get one Neewer 660 LED with softbox, or two Yongnuo 300 Air's (hence have 2 lighting points). Which would light up my room and face better?
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Its really going to depend on a few factors.
1) How wide are we talking about? I my example it was approx a Medium shot at 30% brightness in a fully controlled lighting environment, meaning that I was in a completely dark room and only used the Neewer 660 with softbox. If you are starting in a completely dark room you will have some power to spare
2) If you are going wider so that you can see down to your hips or past to your knees, you may need to move that light about another 1-2ft back. Its not a big deal to do so but as the light gets further away from you the shadows become harsher on you. Making having two lights to soften the shadow side more needed. But the problem is I have not tests the yongnuo, but based off the paper specs, its got less LED chips, half of them are one color and half the other color, so you will be taking a light decrease compared to the 660s. Not only that the Yongnuo has a built on diffusion cover where as the neewer you can take that off to then take advantage of the softbox diffusion instead and put more power through it, if you used these softbox on the yongnuo you will lose even more output and could run into problems if your camera and lens combination doesn't support decent high ISO exposure settings.
These are the things I think of based on your needs. Generally speaking when working with lower powered LED panels, you always want to start in a dark room. Thats where these panels offer the most flexibility. The other way is to use a window as your main light source and then have the LED panel be the "fill side". There are many approaches to lighting from full control to some control. Depending on which situation you are in, you will need to experiment and learn how to work in each situation to get the results you want. I hope to complete some lighting tutorial videos sooner than later :)
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@@TLDR_filmmaker Wow thanks for such a thorough response. Greatly appreciate it. If you could see me, I'm bowing profusely and thanking you. Keep up the amazing work! There are a lot of newer people learning about all this stuff. Not sure what stage most of your subscribers are at, but I love how you do give you give tailored advice to beginners vs more experienced people.
You're most welcome! I think my subscribers span a very large range from beginners and pros that are more skill than me by many decades in the film industry. I try my best to understand the questions coming in and respond accordingly so that it helps them on their process. A full video tutorial will definitely make it easier to explain as I can show what I mean haha. But until I finally make that video, I am happy to try and get to every comment possible :)
I will continue to do my very best here with my content, until then, stay safe and healthy and keep learning all you can about this craft, its a lot of fun!
Dude you look JUST like a young Grant from Mythbusters
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Hahahaha man I really hope I meet Grant eventually because I've been hearing that for so many years, even more now that I'm on youtube haha! Someone make it happen!
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Reading his reply after Grant passed away 😞
I like the circular version but where's the grid? Do they not make a grid for it? That's would be the only down side.
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They do make a grid, however it seems like that version has been sold out for quite some time, not sure when these will get back in stock :(
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Thanks for the great video a lot information.
Just one question if I go with the circular soft box using the Neewer 660, will I have the spot light in the middle or the light will be fill the the whole circle soft box.
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Yes, as I show in the video, the center is technically brighter. but is this going to be a big deal where someone will notice it in a video when lighting someone. Most likely not, it will still diffuse the light from bare LEDs.
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Thanks for the advice! Would you recommend this neewer lights for food photography?
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This depends on what your style of food photography is. If you are getting up very close to the plate, then these softboxes can be brought in super close so that you get a nice softer look. If you are looking to show the entire plate on a dinner table, it may not be a large enough source and you'd have to go more traditional with larger softboxes. Again this really really depends on your style, you may like a more contrast photo for dramatics. For me I'm referencing what I'm used to seeing in food photos which are generally lit very bright and even.
Hope this makes sense.
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Hi! This is a great review! We just received our kit and it looks so professional and well made. But I wanted to know if u can share a link where I can get the batteries. My kit didn’t had them. Thank u!
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The specific battery that I use is this one made by Kastar, the no longer sell my version but this is an updated version: amzn.to/2ShXLLC
Here is the original video of why I choose this specific battery and how I charge them without having to buy multiple chargers: th-cam.com/video/wIBOgBcaoNg/w-d-xo.html
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Some awesome details in there, thank you very much!
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Awesome review, will definitely come to this channel first when looking for this kind of gear review in the future. I do have a question if you have time the answer, since the Neewer variety is sold you, would you recommend the circular w/ grid from the other company you linked? Or wait for the Neewer to get back into stock. Looking for a box for my 660s I already own.
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The Kamerar brand is essentially the same thing with the only difference that I can tell is that the Kamerar comes with a little plastic slide clip on the magnetic rods to ensure the magnets always start ridged once you set it up. But other than that they are more or less the same product just different branding. It seemed in the past since this review that the Neewer circular one was constantly out of stock and only replenished rarely, if you need one right away, probably easier to just get the Kamerar version.
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A great video... I have always loved my octagonal softboxes, but it's just not practical to use my older 1000 watt continuous lights these days. I have a small squarish softbox for my LED light, but to find a round softbox with a grid at a reasonable cost has been something I have searched for. When funds allow, I am going this direction. I am curious.. what light bigger than the Neewer 660 might you recommend to go with the round softbox?
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Unfortunately right now there isn't a whole lot of budget larger LED panels, all the budget companies right now are all producing the same 45-50 watt LED panel equivalent all about the same size. Some name brands out there have panels that are either the traditional 1x1 or larger that can pump out 100w or more, but it'll definitely cost a bit. There is a larger more powerful neewer panel light here: amzn.to/2zpLqgI (This is my amazon affiliate link, by using this link I get a small commission that directly supports this channel at no additional cost to you. If you choose the link I sincerely appreciate you support this channel Thanks!)
But it's not a traditional square shape, so using it light the softbox may be a little interesting. And because it has a lens on each LED diode, the beam may not be flood enough to try and negate a hotspot (if that is a concern for your work)
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@@TLDR_filmmaker Looks like the 660 is the best option for the moment and the round softbox may still be useful down the road. Thank you... you are appreciated!
Yep I am going to buy it. Thank you kindly for the review & recommendation
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You're most welcome! I'm so glad this video was helpful for you! I need to search for some larger more powerful LED panels for the circular one. The circular being a 21" softbox isn't bad at all. I hope neewer makes a 32" version or something, that would be wicked if it works. Paired with a powerful enough LED Panel, at the right price, it would be a great alternative to the Aputure 120D bowens softbox combo.
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I need a video on how to set this up haha. I am new to this and am struggling. ALSO tips on how to collapse those photography reflectors.
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Do you mean just attaching them to a LED panel or just general lighting setup? The Collapsing of these softbox is very cumbersome, and as I said in the video, I don't know if they will hold up with that much repeated twisting. For me I leave them open and just have them inside a large artist tote. But otherwise for the square one you gotta grab the corners and then twist twist twist until it gets back into a ball. Its a little easier to do with the circle one.
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Very educational and useful for budding TH-camrs like me..Thank you
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for a YT content creator/live streamer would you recommend 1 neewer rgb panel with a circular softbox for the keylight and 2 neewer bi-color panels with square softboxes for fill and hair lights? should all 3 have honeycomb modifiers? thanks in advance and keep up the great work on the channel
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This would depend on what kind of shot you are going for for your channel. If your shot is like mine where its closer and you don't see more of my torso. Than these 660 lights paired with the softbox will be enough. You may not actually need a softbox for the hair light depending if you want a harsher look. The honeycomb is not necessary depending on what room you're in. If there is a lot of room behind you and you don't want like to go into that area, you use the honeycomb on your key, not necessarily fill as the fill usually won't be blashing light as brightly. If you are near a wall (2-3 feet). You do not need to use a honeycomb as it does not really do much in that respect. A honeycomb you are directly light in a direction so that you don't fill the sides of you with light if you don't want to. This is all to taste, but this is the general idea of what they do. So I can't say for sure if you should or shouldnt, thats going to be up to you and experimenting with your lighting setup. Its not a bad idea to get the honeycomb for the circular. I feel the square ones you probably don't need to, especially the hair light. But if you want to, it never hurts to have options if it doesn't tear into your budget. Hope this helps!
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@@TLDR_filmmaker the shot will normally always be a talking head style. some times I'll be doing a demo/zoom style video where the lights will be attached to the desk so pretty close to me, other times on their stands where I'll be about 2-3 ft away with a grayish wall behind me. I think the 3 panel lights with soft boxes should work out correctly I hope so anyways lol
You should be good, I don't see anything wrong with what you described.
Awesome! How can you tilt down the 660 led with the diffuser on?
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Simply mount the light through the horizontal hole instead of the vertical one that most people naturally mount a light with. And thats it!
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All that I needed for my purchase decision 👍
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Thanks so much for your review? We'll these accommodate a smaller softbox with the velcro straps? I have the Neewer 240s which are smaller than the 660s.
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I don't think the smaller softbox will work because its opening is about 10 inches x 10 inches. While test you can probably latch it onto the light, a decent chunk of your LED's will be blocked. I can't think of any specific softboxes that would work with this more fluidly.
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Great video! Very clear and helpful explinations. Hoping you can help me with a question. I am looking for a pair of soft lights to illuminate a green screen. I am thinking of getting the 660's with square softboxes. Do you think they would work well for that or are there better options for this price?
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There are more practical cheaper solutions for a green screen that I would recommend, a LED panel like this is a bit overkill on the budget for what you get out of it in terms of lighting a green screen. I would suggest getting something like this: amzn.to/2KtAoct (You'll need to buy its own light stand) and I use these LED light bulbs: th-cam.com/video/p-rDtf2Jra8/w-d-xo.html (Or you can purchase different more powerful ones)
This setup gives you a softbox thats larger than this square softbox for the LED panels, it also gives you much more light output than the 660s can give. And at the end of the day, for less than the price of one panel and softbox you are able to light up the entire green screen. The reason I would go this route is because chances are your green screen, once it's setup, isn't going anywhere. The 660 panels have other features do not apply for the green screen, so you'd be wasting money on that vanity. Of course you can mix and match, instead of having a bunch of 660s, you can use the cheaper softbox to light the green screen and then use the 660s as lights to light yourself. But, even then, if the green screen is going to be setup in its own space, I would just continue with the softbox route for lighting yourself. LED panels are more or less meant for portability between your studio and a film set. If your studio is the film set, then I would just save the money so that you can get more lights, more power, work on the content, and then eventually invest in something more expensive if needed. But for the most part, a green screen setup is pretty much left stationary and never really changes.
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Sold! This is exactly what I need thank you for your help. Would you recommend 5000k or 2700k CCT for a green screen?
Awesome! So glad that helped! I would go with the Daylight 5000k. Have fun!
Thank you so much for this informative video. I'm wanting to start a TH-cam channel where I do music videos. Those videos will mainly be inside and use backdrops. Do you think the neewer 660 with the round softboxes are the best option for me?
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Are the music videos just you in the video? Or are you looking to light up a standard 4 person setup? If it's just you and you make sure to draw all the window curtains, these 660's will do. However I would also suggest you check out some 60w powered lights as they will give you more output and end up spending less money overall than these panels. I have a review on 60w options here: th-cam.com/video/3drVUZ5LWPI/w-d-xo.html
I'd recommend the GODOX and then buying either diffusion curtains or a 5 in 1 reflector and shoot the light through it (Light 1-2ft away from diffusion). This will produce a much softer light with less harsh shadows compared to the neewer 660 softbox setup. These Panel softbox setups are more for closeup shots while the Godox setup will help for more full body shots.
I am working on a lighting tutorial series soon that will hopefully help and demonstrate these concepts. But there are other videos out there that discuss you, it just may be harder to find as they are more general. Hope this points you in the right direction though!
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Would you recommend these over a large umbrella?
James Wong this would give you a more directional quality especially with the grid. The umbrella doesn’t have a backside so it just bounces light everywhere
Good Video, I have 1 circle and 2 square . Im limited on space. its killing to close this circle one .
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Solid setup! Yea, Id say both are really difficult to close. so I just leave them flat and put them into a large zip up folio.
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Great review, just what I was looking for 👍
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A very pleasing presentation.
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Great video...very informative. Do you know if the circular soft box works for the Neewer 960 RBG lights?
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The 960 RGB light is longer than the opening on the back of the circular softbox. So while it will fit, there will be 1/5 of your LED's that will be blocked off and won't make it into the softbox. I believe Neewer has their own 960 softbox (don't know if its square or round) for that LED.
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@@TLDR_filmmaker Thanks for the quick response. I’ll look into it. Cheers!
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Love your videos! Ps. Which of the Newwer 660's would you suggest (because you speak to the 2 different LED types **SMG vs. the bulbs)?
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Honestly when it comes down to it, either one will work for an at home setup. It's really only the more seasoned people that would probably prefer the SMD version. Essentially the trade off is this.
Non-SMD = more light power
SMD = less light power
If you are just doing a talking youtube head like my review videos. Either one will work just fine. The SMD happens to have color modes. But if you plan to use the SMD for your face, then the color modes are moot as you won't be using them.
Long story short, either one works, the difference in looks is most likely not noticeable to anyone.
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Great video! This helped me choose for my TH-cam setup. I've spent days trying to figure out lighting and softboxes. I was going to go with a Godox SL60W but size is a big factor.
Since I live in Japan and don't have the space for an 80-120cm softbox, this information was really helpful for a compact softbox. I want to have a more cinematic look to my lighting in my talking head videos and this looks like the best compact option.
The tip about getting the RGB version of the 660 to fill the circular softbox evenly is gold. I know that having a spot beam in the middle of the circular softbox with the normal 660 would bug the hell out of me.
Thanks so much!
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I'm so glad this video was helpful! That totally makes sense that these would be a better idea because of your room size, and the added bonus that you do not need to compete against fan noise (generally) with LED panels around this size and output.
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How about for Photographer, shooting family portraits ?
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I would not recommend these for a family portrait photographer because its won't give you much light to work with for a large setup. You would have to raise your ISO quite a bit to get a decent shutter speed to work with. For family portraits I would recommend to invest into flashes, they will do you much better than these video LED panels that are not as high powered for faster shutter speeds.
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Great Video,
Question: Is it good to have all ur lights as RGB then use as Bi color with dialing down the saturation on the panel when needed? or two Bi color and one RBG is
recommended?
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There is not good or bad, there is only "whats going to work for you". This is a question I get a lot, I can only recommend what I believe is the best "all rounder" kit. But that does not mean it's going to be what you specifically need because the RGB and bi-color have their different strengths. If you don't know why you want an RGB or how you want to use it, then theres no real reason for you to get one. If you do know why you want one, then you technically wouldn't need me to tell you my recommendation. So that being said, my idea of two bi-color and one RGB is the most versatile setup. But if you know exactly what you're going for, then my recommendation is not justified, you should buy for exactly what you want for your setup.
I talk about this a lot in my "think critically series" as I get a lot of questions on my recommendations without much knowledge of what someone wants to use the tool for. This video I think will help as you move forward in your gear investment decision: th-cam.com/video/3zO9axytfK8/w-d-xo.html
Hope this helps!
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Ahh a shining good news video among all this COVID19 videos.
You are doing God's work!
Hey hey again S Singh!
Hahaha I have been thinking about what kind of content would be good during this time, cause idk if review videos are necessarily what people want to see. This Covid-19 is definitely doing its thing, the film I'm currently on has to postpone a lot of film dates we set aside. So I was busy with that and now I'm not, back to more youtube content for you all! If you have any fun video suggestions that you think would give everyone something fun to watch outside of what the media is presenting, let me know! I'd love to figure out how to help the community during this interesting time. Until then, you take care of yourself and stay healthy!
@@TLDR_filmmaker Might I suggest reviews based on the concept of doing remote work? Example. Web cameras and mics or lighting setups that make web casting look good. I know a few of my corporate clients asking me about tips because they are working from home and want to look good making company wide announcements without looking like they are in a bunker. Sometimes people just need to do something other than dwell on the Pandemic, or need a good distraction. Socializing online is a great way to do it, but people are still vain and want to stand out.
@@TLDR_filmmaker An interesting video would be comparing different editing software e.g. Davinci Resolve vs. Premiere Pro, maybe even FCPX. You could even throw some of the outliers in like Hitfilm.
Rockin' videos. Any info on whether or not the 2.4 ghz light will interfere with wifi or other devices? Do you know if the light is always emitting a 2.4 signal when turned on? This concern may be irrelevant, I'm new to lighting. Thanks in advance.
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As far as I'm concerned with these 2.4ghz wireless remotes (as well as all the 2.4ghz wireless mics I've reviewed) they will not interfere with wifi or other devices, if anything they may interfere with the remote because the signal that it has doesn't signal hop from what I can tell. Sometimes I may be 15ft away from the light in line of sight and it takes a second for the command to register. However a lot of lights now are using smartphone apps and those are definitely more responsive. But for the most part I would say it's not a major concern and in all honesty the amount of times where I've actually had to use the wireless remote features have been pretty rare. I think as you get used to lighting a subject and what you're lights are capable of, you won't need to readjust too much wirelessly.
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@@TLDR_filmmaker thanks for taking the time to get back! based on your rare use of the remote it seems like the regular bi-color neewer 660's would be up my alley.
they appear to be the same general specs/housing just without remotes or the upgraded 2-way mount system. is that correct?
This was such an informative video! Thanks this is a huge help in making my decision on lighting for our podcast set🙏🏻✌🏻
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I'm so glad this video was helpful! Best wishes on your podcast and have fun!
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Hey thanks for the video! I had a question regarding your comments about event videography in here. When u said you’re “battling the natural light” what do you mean by that? Basically that these lights if u had them spread around the room for an event wouldn’t be able to do much compared to what that natural light is doing?
I have an aputure 300d I’m trying to supplement with 2 lights to have a good 3 point set up. Would these do the trick for a hair and fill u think?
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Correct, I feel after the panel lights go through the diffusion it may not be enough to act as a key light and to some extent may not be enough for a fill light depending on the natural light coming into the room whether it be the sun or artificial lighting. I feel this setup works best if you have full control of lighting in the room whether it is to start with a dark space or try and bring down the overall room luminosity. And of course it just depends on what your shot composition is, the wider the shot the less likely these lights will do the trick.
Hmm, again if you have full control of the room lighting situation, I feel these could work well with the 300d that has a nice softbox or diffusion fabric in front. Hair light will depend on if you want a soft or harsh one. The Bi-color definitely can hit a nice harsh hair light since it's more spot beam in nature. But once you throw that softbox on it you'll have to balance out all three lights in conjunction with your camera settings to try and get the best quality.
All and all, its a hard question to answer because you have this super powerful nearly 10x brighter 300d and then the very less powerful LED panel. These situations is where you need to know everything about what and how you're going to use the lights you have to get the result you want. Otherwise most people would purchase a 300d and two 120d so that the lights are in a relatively similar range of use and can be adapter to many many situations. The 10x gap is where you really need to nail everything down to the T to make it work.
Hope this makes sense!
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Amazing content, very professional and very clear and concise.... really clean looking to🙌🏽
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Can you put these on one of those round Neewer 10" flapjack lights?
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Only the square one could work. However you are now double diffusing the 10" flapjack that isn't as powerful as the 660 panels, so your output is going to be quite low if you do it this way.
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Again, thank you for the helpful review! Like several others have mentioned the tilting of the light is not possible with the softbox, but you said to flip the panel 180 degrees BUT then it is in a fixed position shooting the light straight out which is still bad, so that's not a great option either, unless you buy another piece to put in that allows you to tilt up and down. Is this the best (cheapest fix)?
Hey hey again Jeremy!
I'm not sure what you mean... does your 660 not have a side mount? This shouldn't be the case. When you are in the side mounted position you have full tilt from pointing the light straight down and straight up.
Again, look at the place where you connect the light to a light stand. There is the traditional vertical hole that you used, then there is a horizontal hole like I said before. Use the horizontal hole. Loosen the yoke. Attach the softbox to the light panel itself, do not overcross and connect the yoke with it too, I show this in the video. You should have full tilt in this orientation as it is designed to be use this way.
Watch at 2:31 , thats how you need it oriented if you want tilt.
@@TLDR_filmmaker I see what you are saying...with the amazon "Neewer 2 Pieces Bi-color 660 LED Video Light and Stand Kit" the stand mounts different than yours in the video. Any ideas on how I can get these to actually tint with the new neewer setup?
I can't say for sure if the pictures don't look the same. In theory the 660 should all have the same horizontal mount. This feature has become standard in most budget lights since 2018.
Love your reviews man. Super helpful. Keep it up!
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Have you done a video on Neewer 660 RGB vs LED review? If not, could you please quickly tell me which route I should go with?
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I have, granted its the 540(?) version but it'll give you an idea of the different in light power and color: th-cam.com/video/BTCsyGXeWl8/w-d-xo.html
Both will do well for you, it just depends on if color is something you need or not. If you don't need colors for 95% of what you want to do, then the bi-color will serve you just fine. Hope this helps!
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Awesome review. Thank you! Do you know if either of these soft boxes will work with the newer 480?
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You're most welcome, so glad you enjoyed the review! As far as my understanding between the 480 - 660 models. The size of the panels are the same, but the number of LED chips are different. You should be good.
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Thanks for the review. Found it very useful.
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Thanks for testing out the different softboxes! I have watched this video a couple of times, but I am still not sure how to use the circular softbox. Do you use the barn doors to attach the circular softbox, or do you take of the barn doors? I have a set of bicolor 660 LEDs. Does this mean that I will only get a square-shaped light while using the circular softbox? Do I need a different LED to fully light the circular softbox?
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Yes, for the circular version you'll need to keep your barn doors on. If you want to be able to have more tilt while using these softboxes, you need to make your 660 panel is mounted through the horizontal mount opening instead of the vertical mount opening (light stand).
While the bi-color 660 will work in either case, the circular will benefit more by being filled out fully. In which case the easy way to know if your LED will fill it out is if the LED's are just squares (completely exposed). These are SMD led's and have a much wider beam. If your LED's have little plastic domes over it, then your LED beam is more concentrated to the center. So for the circle softbox you'll want a more Flood beam to light up as much of the material as possible. Hope this helps!
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@@TLDR_filmmaker Thanks for taking the time to answer my question! I only have one question left. Since don't have the SMD LEDs in my Neewer 660s and therefore have to work with the circular softbox not being fully lit, do you think the circular softbox was a bad choice in my case? Given that I will only use the circular softbox with the 660s for talking head videos, the light fall-off - since not fully lit - might hopefully not be a problem, because the they head will be the center of the shot. Or should I get the square softbox instead? Thanks in advance!
You're most welcome! Honestly I don't feel its a problem because a smaller square softbox isn't necessarily going to make it night and day better because you're now lighting a smaller surface area. So the light fall off won't be better because of that respect. The circular one, while this current time, isn't used to it's fullest capacity, should you upgrade your LED's later that are SMD based, you'll be good to go. I personally, like in the video, would just go for the circular ones first and only use the square as a supplement rather than the primary.
Great video! I am looking for a solution where I could lighten up a person walking across the room, etc. I figured someone holding the Neewer 660 + the softbox moving right in front of that person would be the cheapest and fairly good solution. Would you agree or rather recommend something else?
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The 660 with softbox combination would be one of the cheaper setups as I've talked about it before when Neewer had a much cheaper bi-color softbox combo, unfortunately that version of the light I believe is discontinued. Video here: th-cam.com/video/VKZN2sX5nbY/w-d-xo.html
If you're able to find that light still, it would be my preferable setup even with the color accuracy being off a little bit.
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@@TLDR_filmmaker Thanks a lot for your insightful answer! :)
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Thanks for this video ! It really answered so many of my questions🙏 thanks for being brief and too the point.
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I love your channel, just wanted to say thanks :)
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I'm considering a neewer 660 bi-color rather than a 480 for self tape auditions. I want to add a flexible to be used as a fill or hair light. Your suggestion of an umbrella to soften is a good one. However a Softbox either square or round might work. Your thoughts? I've appreciated your videos.
Thanks in advance- Jeff
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The specific softboxes for the 660's are more convenient in terms of it being less of a contraption. However I feel the umbrella is still the better way to go to soften your facial features and look more pleasing. The square softbox is too small in my opinion and the round one is expensive compared to a umbrella. But also because with self tape auditions, they may request a wide short and you will have to move the light a little further back, making it not as soft when it hits your face.
If the umbrella route is rather cumbersome to setup in your space. A cheap trick is a dollar store shower curtain (frosted type, not clear) and you place it about 2 feet away from the light. This will also give you a soft light to work with. Some people just tape it to the ceiling and let it drape down instead of using a light stand. This will also give you a very soft even light.
Hope some of these ideas help!
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@@TLDR_filmmaker thanks much and best of luck to you
will you recomend buying kit of 2 660 led from neewer + the two version of the softboxes?
(one circular and one square and grid, so Ill have 2 light with 2 different softbox for mor option..)
also I already have 2 small leds (316led and the apture mc) so they can be used for hairlight/backligth
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That's definitely the most versatile setup so that you have all the options. Of course it also depends on your budget at this time for what you need. If you only had the budget to buy one light, then I would say get the Circular Softbox. If this is part of your beginning developing lighting kit and you don't already have a large 5 in 1 reflector set. I would actually say get a 2x 660 kit, circular softbox, and a large 5 in 1 reflector. Reason is because of how versatile the 5 in 1 reflector set can be as you develop your lighting kit.
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I wonder if I can use one on a gvm560...
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If the GVM panel measures approx 11x11, it will work with the square softbox. To have it work with the circular one you'll want to have the barn doors open. Hope this helps!
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@@TLDR_filmmaker brilliant, it's just arrived this afternoon so I'll see, thanks a lot!
Awesome! Have fun with it! You're most welcome!
Can you recommend a much more powerful light than the Neewer 660s?
If you're looking for a panel style light like the Neewer 660s. You'll want to check out the Amaran P60x: geni.us/b1OARPy (affiliate link)
If this is your first light then I would suggest the Amaran 60ds or 100ds to start: geni.us/LBJX (Affiliate link)
The reason I say this should be your first light is because you are able to attach softboxes to it easily so that you can obtain a nice large soft light compared to panel lights which require a diffusion curtain setup to obtain the same effect. You can also purchase a bunch of other types of light modifiers to produce different types of light as well. All in all these COB LED lights are the most versatile compared to panel lights.
Hope this helps!
I was thinking about getting one of these to replace my umbrella rig, but are they going to be better than the umbrella or should I just save up and keep using the umbrellas. I dislike the space the umbrellas use in some situations so I might still get one for those situations.
Hey hey again Mobile Chaos!
If you have the traditional open unbrella's that are not enclosed to almost look like a regular COB softbox (more common for flashes) Then yes, these will be better in terms of overall control of the LED light. When you are shooting your LED panel through an open umbrella, you are spilling light into the scene on open parts of the umbrella. These softboxes will contain the light inside and illuminate the front diffusion giving you a bit more control of where the soft light is directed. That being said, especially during this current time. If the umbrellas have been doing well for you so far and you're happy with the result, it's probably a good idea to save up some money to eventually make your way up to other gear whether it be lenses, different types of lights, etc.
Hello, thank you for the review. I saw your last review video compare Neewer Bi-color 660 and Neewer Bi-Color LED Softbox. The Bi-Color LED Softbox has a wider range light area than the 660 with diffuser. I would like to know if the Bi-color 660 with the Circular Softbox will has the same range light area as the Bi-Color LED Softbox? Thank you
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In terms of overall surface area they are about the same about the same, just different shape. In terms of which would I recommend overall, I would recommend the 660 setup if your budget allows because it is fanless and much better made than the Bi-Color LED softbox combo. However if you are on a budget and just need something to get started, the softbox combo is a great way to get started as you learn.
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I really like your videos, they are very helpful and i have enjoyed every single one of them, including this one! But in this case i will have to say that the test isn't as meaningful as i had hoped for. If the question wouldn't be which one to get, but rather if it would be worth it getting one of them at all, a few additional tests would have helped... Why? Because the softboxes dim down the light quite a bit and i really would have liked to see how the 660 would have performed with the diffusor installed AND dimmed down to the same exposure of the others, because i really think that dimmed down, the shadow would have looked softer too, probably not a lot, but still noticably. After all there would be less dynamic range involved. Also the highlights in your face would have been softer. Of course the softboxes will improve the softness of the key light regardless, but for us the question is, by how much compared to bare LED with diffusor plate. We are still on a very low budget and at the moment only the square ones are available in Germany, not sure if they are worth it, the circular one looked a lot better.
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This is definitely something I plan to tackle not specifically in this video as it brings in a major general note about softlight and how it can be achieved with various techniques. I primarily did just a constant LED output test with and without the Softbox so people can see just how much light gets cut at the first level, if you add the additional diffusion plate in front the LED it cuts down even further to the point where it will probably only be good for indoor complete controlled light situations.
In this situation test situation if I were to dim down the LED to match what the softbox gives in terms of exposure, the shadows will become even harsher because I've cut down on overall output from the same distance and the light has a harder time wrapping around my face by the time it gets to me. If I were to full blast the light from the same distance and using an ND to compensate for the extreme overexposure, in theory it will be a softer image, not as soft as a softbox, but softer than a low dimmed - same distance - same source size. Its a crazy topic and I can't wait to dive into that video specifically.
That being said, is the softbox worth it in the long run? Unfortunately it's a "it depends on your typical filming situation". While the Circular is definitely the better option, for me it comes down to convenience of setup. Because of it attaching onto the LED itself, I do not need to bring an additional light stand with a boom arm to hold a diffusion object in front of it. Hopefully in the future I can get an even more powerful wide beam LED panel behind it to use it more situations as a keylight for Med to Close ups.
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hey man thanks for the great content. I just received the square soft box but I can't tilt the light anymore once on a tripod .how do you go around this problem.do you recommend any arm for it?
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You're most welcome! So LED panels these days have two way of mounting onto a light stand (I'm assuming you meant this when you said Tripod). So the way you have mounted now is vertical, there is actually a horizontal opening on the LED light stand mounting point. Simply use that mounting hold instead and now your LED panel will be mounted horizontally. From there when you have the softbox on, you will have full tilting range.
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@@TLDR_filmmaker thanks so much! I'll see you in the next one!
You're most welcome!
Very nice explanation
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So glad you enjoyed this video! I will continue to do my best with my reviews and content!
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I have the Neewer 480 RGB I need to eventually buy a circular softbox? or I need to both two for each leds.
I don't know pretty much about Lights, shadow but I'm understanding the basic to get a good result.
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You don't necessarily need the circular one. I have done an updated video on other diffusion options here: th-cam.com/video/ArI16TEKbo8/w-d-xo.html Hope this helps!
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good evening :D do you think the circular soft boxes would fit the 530 models as well? they are similar in size right?
Hey hey again Roam Hockey!
Yes, the Circular will work on the 530 model as long as you got the barn doors on. It will not work with it off.
@@TLDR_filmmaker ok thanks , good to know :)
If 660 not enough for dance floor. Whitch would you recomend thanks.
Hey hey again Sergio!
In the future its probably better just to have your questions in one comment instead of two individual ones. Easier for you to track. I realized that I completely didn't understand your question when you asked this 5 months ago.
The quick answer is, probably not. It'll throw some light with a softbox, but it most likely won't be enough and you'll have to raise your ISO quite a bit. You may want to look into the Godox ML60 if you need battery power. If you don't then you may want to look into the Godox SL60 or Amaran 100d.
Hope this helps!
Im so new at this. I was wondering about your professional opinion. What
do you think about the GVM RGB 800D vs Neewer 660 RGB ? They are
both very similar. Was wondering which one you recommend?
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I get asked this a lot and I still do not have a GVM 800d review unit to make the comparison. That being said these are my thoughts. Budget LED's these days in this class or power draw more or less all perform the same, neither one is going to be a huge difference where one is far superior. In theory the Neewer 660 could be a little brighter because it has more LED diodes, but if so again, probably not by much. So in short, buy the one that first your budget or whichever is on-sale. You most likely will not suffer a night and day difference like you would if you bought a Budget LED panel vs a budget COB led light. The two LED tech have different advantages and output. Hope this helps.
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@@TLDR_filmmaker Thank you so much for your help !
I could have sworn that you had a video that showed how to install and set up these softboxes. I'm no longer able to locate this video.
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This was the first video I made on these softboxes and the follow up is in the description. If you are wondering about the larger Circular one, you need to keep the barndoors on the panel so that the velcro has something to attach to. If you are using the square one, you'll need to take the barndoors off. Hope this helps!
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Thanks for the help!!
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So glad this helped, If you haven't seen the follow up video for this topic it can be found here: th-cam.com/video/ArI16TEKbo8/w-d-xo.html
I checked out your channel randomly and from a classical hybrid dancer to another, loved your recent video! Super creative and well filmed, keep it up!
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I see your headphones on at 0:05
Who are you talking to?
Pretty sure I was talking to Bohuš
TLDR Filmmaker aw man should’ve told him I said hello. I haven’t seen him around in a minute
Very informative and interesting video. Thank you. Unfortunately this product is not available on Amazon currently. And on Amazon in Germany i cannot find it at all :-( Is there something similar around? Thank you :-)
Guten tag Helmut!
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You may want to check the Kamerar versions that I linked in the description, the neewer versions seems to be selling out and it's taking awhile to stock back in :(
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@@TLDR_filmmaker thank you!!
are Neewer Collapsible Softbox Diffuser compatible with Godox bi 1000?
Hey hey Smashi!
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The square wouldn't be compatible, but the circular one might be. I can't see a dimension measurement of the panel itself minus the barn doors. If the panel is about a 1'x1'x then the circular one should work. The only part about the Godox is if the yoke has a horizontal mounting point to the light stand. If it doesn't, then you won't really be able to get much tilt when the softbox is attached. Hope this helps.
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Bigger soft box with egg crate doesn’t deliver to UK 😢
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Oh man, I'm sorry that you arn't able to get ahold of it in the UK :( I'm not sure why but most of the products even on eBay are only shipping in the USA and not available for worldwide shipping. I hope you'll be able to get something similar soon, I'll keep an eye out.
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Do you have to remove the barn doors on the 660 to put on the softbox? There are no instructions and on your video, it looks like you put them over the barn doors, so it was very confusing.
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For the square Softbox you technically could remove the barn doors, where as the larger circular one you'll need to keep the barn doors. I've personally left the barn doors on for both applications to give each softbox more resistance for the velcro bands.
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Hi TLDR.....what batteries does the neweer 660 take?
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The Neewer 660 takes NPF Batteries of any size.
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What do you recomend for dance floor?
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Really depends on why type of dancing you are doing. Most traditional dance styles will want a sprung floor with marley. Ballroom and breakdancing need wood floors.
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Thank you, this video was very useful. Love your awesome work. Namaste. Kezza Kat - Fearless Yoga
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