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DAMAGING TO DID: 'SPLIT' AND 'GLASS' | DID IN THE MEDIA | Dissociative Identity Disorder
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 ก.ย. 2018
- A lot of you have asked about our views on the movie Split! In this video we discuss the knock on effect the Split franchise has had on the DID community, in regards to stigma, diagnosis, treatment and the recognition and acceptance of Dissociative Identity Disorder in society. Note: We no longer have a Tumblr account.
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I am so proud of you!! So intelligent and well knowing your mission here on soc media. The amount of knowledge about DID and mental health care you’re sharing is incredible. We need you. The world needs you. Your patience and determination are beautiful. It took a lot of courage to step forward and speak loud for sure, but now you have a whole army of people having your back and passing clear informations about health care and fighting with stigma 💖
I completely agree with everything you've said!
You truly are awesome @DissociaDID
I think split shouldn't of gotten through the systems without the info its just stupid how do people let this through I hate people who think like this they shouldn't of gone through with it do research and how it will affect people they have already gone through enough
Totally! Agree all the way💖
"SPLIT" is to D.I.D like "Fifty Shades of Grey" is to B.D.S.M. basically all it does is make people wonder. It doesn't give any accurate information and can cause a lot of unhealthy misunderstandings and situations.
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Jennifer Dunyon Facts
I think this is the best comparison I've heard yet.
My first exposure to DID was Moon Knight. A Marvel character. He's my favorite hero. I know of three of his alters and they portray it as I've seen on this channel.
This!!!!
Saying “I have objective, unbiased, and research based knowledge on DID because I watched ‘Split’”’ is akin to saying “I can totes perform surgery-I watch Greys Anatomy”’
Face desk.
Yes. And even if the movie is pretty close and realistic, they will never be exactly spot on. It’s a movie, they have to make it interesting. Like Chloe said in the DITL video, they don’t do much. The movie wouldn’t have been interesting if it just showed someone sleeping all day, but still Split was so inaccurate it’s low key painful.
"totes"? I didn't think real people said things like that. I know typing whole words is exhausting huh?
ann eurism
Not putting a capital at the beginning of a sentence..? I didn’t know people still talked like that. I know typing capitals is tough, huh?
"I have cancer and you don't see me boycotting cancer movies."
.... Um okay, I think they would change their tune if cancer movies made all cancer victims out to be serial killers
Exactly!
Yep
Or even if there was a movie that made cancer seem contagious. As if being near or close to a person with cancer put you in some kind of danger
Kiterpuss exactly
Saw jkjk
That person who had cancer and felt like because of that they could speak on DID and tell YOU how to feel made me so angry. I'm sorry they have cancer, but it clearly doesn't stop them from being very ignorant.
Much like Jaws was instrumental in the killing of massive numbers of sharks
(leans in) _No, honey. No._
A friend of mine said “you can’t have DID, you’re not like the dude in Split” ... and he was bloody serious. So, yeah. “No, honey” is the right answer!
ughhh
My mother told me that when I tried to tell her about my Osdd... I didn’t retry since this day...
As an outsider Split was a great resource. I graduated in psychology, saw the movie and thought: "It can't possibly be a good portrayal of this disease" and educated myself on the subject (with videos from people suffering from this disease and scientific articles). Now I want to specialise in the treatment of DID and help people affected with dignity. All of this wouldn't have been possible without this movie because we NEVER talked about DID in the university although it's extremely prevalent.
I like you're drive to find truthful, accurate information on your own. It's inspiring that you're driven to be an ally to the community now.
If a movie that didn't represent the DID community as poorly as Split made you want to learn about it more, just imagine how a good representation will effect other people. It would probably make a huge difference.
That's great!!! The problem is most people dont even bother researching anything and are so confident in their own judgement, that they deny any factual proof that conflicts with that judgement.
Split was what got me interested in DID and so when I found this channel I stuck with it! unfortunately a lot of people don’t fact check, so.....
“NO HONEY”👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Stephanie Cano that made me laugh so hard when she said that!
How can someone who doesn’t have DID have the audacity to tell someone who has DID how to feel about that movie?! After coming across your channel a few weeks ago I quickly realized how movies like Split dehumanize people with DID. Thank you for making your videos and giving many of us our first look into the reality of what DID is.
Another one that is damaging is hide n seek
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Yasmine Ameena it's crazy hard to deal with
Yasmine Ameena the same way anyone can give their opinion/advice to another.
I don't know if Split really dehumanized people in my personal opinion because I cant really remember the movie in its entirety at the moment to refute otherwise, plus I would never tell others how they should feel about a situation specially a disorder in the first place. I would just tell how I see it from my perspective.
I do remember Glass and I feel that M. Night Shyamalan in a way did make Kevin and the other characters feel more human. I actually didn't ever place the character in the movie though as anything to be compared to an actual human that is living with DID. I really feel it humanized the character Kevin though with showing he had good and evil in him and was capable of recognizing that as well and was able to choose the "good" side of himself once coming to terms with why his trauma that happened to him as a child. I perceived it more so on the super hero/villain concept of humanizing them, not comparing mental illness to a fictional character. It made me look at the concept of comics putting characters above humans when this movie made them to appear just as normal as anyone else, that they just have extraordinary physical attributes.
I can see where it would bother people with the disorder though, cause very young people and uneducated people watching these movies tend to relate such things together when they don't have the knowledge or experience that is factual to base it off of. The person that commented was wrong in telling someone with the disorder how they should feel and that no one in the world without it was perceiving people with DID that way. That is just untrue, I come from the south of the US and you would be surprised just how ignorant people can be when they are uneducated. That is the problem of the world people act and feel on their own life experience and don't want to try to learn from others most of the time.
how can that commenter say "its not factual" "no one takes it seriously" but then go on to say that its creating more awareness for DID and anyone who has it should be proud of having it because of the movie?? its either similar or not you cant have both
Just like a non-black person can’t tell me how to feel about the misrepresentation of black people and our culture in media, it is not right for non-DID people to tell you how to feel.
Unfortunately many of us get our opinions about “others” from the media. Those of us who are minorities know how the media perpetuates negative stereotypes.
I’m so glad to have found your channel and again thank you for sharing.
A Hall
Well said.
A Hall as a white person I couldn’t agree with you more. It frustrates me when people who aren’t members of any particular minority or afflicted group (mentally/physically/etc) try to tell people who are that their feelings were wrong or they misunderstood or took something the wrong way. Like no one has a right to tell anyone how they should feel or think, but especially not when it’s something the they could never truly understand in the first place. I apologize on behalf of those of us with paler complexions that aren’t ignorant awful people. Some are just a lost cause... but I promise there’s a bunch of us who don’t totally suck 😁
Black people are a minority? Have you ever visited Africa?
@@fionatastic0.070 not everyone, but they're a majority there
@Chance she didn't mention America
Yup, they could have AT THE VERY LEAST put a darn disclaimer!
even south park does that .
@@funny.gon-12 yeah. Like South Park is supposed to not be taken serioisly though.
but if you're not exposed to it you might have a pretty Shatty view of politics .
@@funny.gon-12 I honestly don't care about polotics. It's all confusing.
same here .
"NO HONEY" that's a Jade moment right there you go girl!!! I don't have DID but I do have mental illness and I definitely agree with you about this.
I was talking to a friend about DID and he said, "Oh, I know all about DID. I've seen Split." When I told him that's not how it is at all, he replied with, "Well, from what I heard, it is."
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Right, because the girl with actual DID knows nothing.
Alex Mewsaurus
He isn’t your friend then. You need to drop this guy, if he isn’t understanding how damaging or bad saying careless simple stuff like that can hurt you mentally.
Sure, believe more what a MOVIE in which a character DEVELOPS SUPER POWERS because of DID says about said disorder, than what a REAL PERSON with DID says. It makes total sense! (by the way, i was being sarcastic).
The " its only a movie and its just for entertainment" can only be applied to things the general population has a very good understanding and ACCEPTANCE of. But things like DID that aren't widespread knowledge it can be a very dangerous thing. Whether we care to believe it or not Media shapes our opinions on the majority of things and how the media Portrays something IS significant, it matters! Unfortunately there are alot of people out there that get their information from certain things from movies and television and dont fully grasp the fact that not everything on T.V is accurate. People generally fear what they do not know and if someone who knows nothing about DID watches a movie like Split they then associate that with the real disorder and that fear from lack of information has grown into fear of what they THINK the disorder is and how the people who have it behave. I very much encourage everyone to do their own research with anything and do not just blindly take what the movies and television give you and swallow it down as if it is the only truth out there
Wow, okay. He didn’t even leave a disclaimer on his movie.
That’s pretty inconsiderate.
Then again, Split comes fron the guy who made The Last Airbender.
@@juanrisa945 doesn’t mean he wasn’t inconsiderate
@@Batman.- but it does mean he's stupid.
I heard from a friend at camp that her psych teacher used Split as an educative video of DID. I immediately pointed put how incorrect the portrayal of DID was. A camp leader who was also also backed me up. The misinformation is terrible and damaging. So glad you made this video.
I personally enjoyed Split just because the actor was simply amazing but to use this as an educational movie isn't the best and is misleading especially with a younger audience.
What the absolute f***?! Split has no similarities to DID! That psych teacher should be prosecuted for harmful misrepresentation of a very real condition.
That's my point: this is not SPLIT fault if people are undereducate about mental illnesses. Why on hearth would you use only a movie to educate people unless it is a documentary ? A movie is an illustration.
I did a presentation on DID in my class and explained it after doing extensive research and watching your videos, as well as reading passages in the dsm 5. After that presentation was over my HEALTH TEACHER made a connection to split and I wanted to slam my head on a desk.
I once believed that "Split" was accurate or at least a good impression for DID and people with DID are/will be harmful at one point. Even after watching some of your videos, I still have the thought that maybe one of your alters are harmful and "why should there be a gate keeper like Jade? Maybe there is an alter that needs to be kept hidden because it's harmful" just because I believed that there are DID cases like the one in "Split". Bless your system for making this vid.
I haven't seen Split and after this video, I still am not interested. If I ever will be watching I'd probably just watch it to criticize it and see where they got it wrong and where they could have at least improved on. From the reviews I have seen, they mentioned that in the movie Split, the person with DID was murdering other people.
Here's what I want to say. There are systems wherein an alter or some of their alters would have different mental illnesses. Not all systems though, just some.I remember one system had an alter that harmed the body; the host and their system was unsure if the alter did it in purpose or accidentally.
If anything, a person with DID is much more prone to self harming than harming others. So I feel like the world should be much more focused into preventing self harm on individuals with DID than be worried of them intentionally harming others.
This stigma and wrong representation of DID should stop. These are people who are victims of trauma and are on their journey towards healing. Intentionally harming others is not their priority.
There are alters that can harm the body, but that doesnt mean they are a threat to others. You dont see a person wo cuts themselfs and think oh no they are going to cut the others. If a murderer had DID, that doesnt mean that people with DID enter in the same bag because of one case.
have u ever seen a movie 'the cell'? it was one of the first multiple personality movies i came across. it stared jenifer lopez. it was quite artistic, but after watiching these vids on youtube, it was an 'exageration'.... forgive me, i like the movie.. it was fun... before, i had watched it as the bad side of DID, but now i see it as, if a bad person had DID.
i know jade will not like me for still liking the movies, but she will not like me because she is a christian, and im a muslim... but jade is awesome..
I’ve just started watching this channel and had no prior knowledge of DID but to me it seems like the gatekeeper (or at least Jade) is mostly there to protect the alters from the outside rather than protect the outside from the alters. Idk if that made sense but it’s how I see it as someone with very little knowledge about DID.
@@sMASHsound I mean, unless Jade has shown a dislike for Muslims, her being Christian shouldn't be an indicator of how she feels about it one way or another. I know I'm Christian and the only thing I care about in a person is if they are nice or not. You could be a Satanist or something and I'd still be your friend if you were nice.
Real question: are there any GOOD movies about DID? I’d love to see them if there are. 😊
I'm not having DID and don't know anyone personally, so I'm very careful with this and can't speak for anyone with DID. But after seeing some of dissociaDID's videos I think the TV show 'Doom Patrol' did some real research on her DID character. It's a super hero series, so not relatable to the real world but I thought the DID was quite nice represented. At least I've never seen this before in any movie or series and got me started to think about this disorder more deeply. Would like to know how people who have experiences with DID think about this representation. I'm happy to learn more about it and getting more sensitive to it.
As the same as the other reply I don't know anyone/am someone who has DID but I saw a TV show on tv once....I can't remember what tv show sadly but it was a pretty darn good example (one of the characters is a DID system)
Sybil is a great film about DID
@@mr.perfect4020 My therapist said Sybil is an awful movie about DID, and I'm pretty sure the girl it was based on came forward later and said she lied about having DID.
She recommended the movies The Three Faces of Eve and Frankie and Alice. (I watched The Three Faces of Eve, which is an older, outdated movie but it's based on actual clinical notes. It's a very overt display of DID but more accurate than Sybil or Split)
Voices within
i agree that split creates a stigma for people living with DID, but I'd just like to point out that the only reason I found this channel was because it was recommended by TH-cam after I watched an interview with James McAvoy about the movie. while I enjoyed the movie, I knew that it was not an accurate portrayal of DID. this channel has taught me so much about DID and what it actually is. I hope you can understand that some people can truly sympathise with your struggle while still enjoying split (even though it does damage the reality of the condition). however, I totally agree that the creators handled the backlash poorly. like you said, it wouldn't have been hard to at least put a disclaimer at the end of the movie, they should have at the very least done that.
Split made me loose the majority of my friends when it first came out. I'm 20. Grown people stopped being friends with me because of a movie. People do take it seriously. The stigma DOES hurt us
I love how you’re so respectful while addressing this issue and replying to the girl. I really aspire to be more like that.
I am so so sorry you’ve had to deal with this! I admit that I’m one of the ignorant people who kind of thought that Split “is just a movie” but I’m so SO happy you made this video because now I know better, and I sincerely apologize from the bottom of my heart for not seeing how big an issue this really is.
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I'm so happy you aren't upset with me, I really am genuinely sorry. Thank you so much for the love, and sending love back to everybody in your system from the US
I was the same as you! I loved the horror aspect of the film but I didn't even know what DID was at the time! Now I know how horrible and wrong the representation was.. >:(
@@ulosen yeah definitely
I too liked the movie Split for a long time and didn't see it as that damaging, mainly because it made me want some alters to be stopped, but not the body to be killed because of alters I liked. And also because I symphatized with the therapist, since she was kinda sticking up for ppl with DID as far as I remember? I'm really sorry if I'm wrong, I'm sure she spread quite a lot of incorrect facts too. I know now that you should never make a serial killer in a movie, book or tv show have DID or schizophrenia or ASPD etc. I knew a few things about DID at the time as well and therefore didn't assume that any real person with DID is a murderer just because they have the disorder. But sadly, some just think of ppl with DID as dangerous because of it's portrayal and it's just disrespectful to ignore the communities thoughts on the movie. I really wanna help to erase the stigma surrounding DID.
My Protector voiced this on twitter after witnessing this exact kind of disregard and disrespect for DID because of the movie Split while in a stream on Twitch.. When we brought up that as someone who has the condition, it is an unfair and totally biased view of something that cannot be controlled. I also mentioned none of my alters were anything like the ones featured in the movie, and was hit with the response "Well as long as none of them are serial killers, you're fine." And the Streamer completely swept it under the rug instead of saying something that might have helped the situation. Doing damage control because of the movie shouldn't be a thing, but unfortunately Hollywood seems to not care at all. It was very upsetting and caused us to feel a bit fragile being the odd ones out trying to clear the air over such things.
The person who sent the message basically saying "hi your opinion is wrong, my opinion is fact, if you keep your opinion then you are wrong"
I love how you dealt with this in a confident, nonaggressive way, while also showing your fun personality in other parts of the video with the zooming. Honestly, well done on everything!
Before I learned about did I was always worried about telling people about my alters because I thought they’d think I’m insane. I thought I was about read to tell my mum to get help until I saw the trailer to split, i Immediately started to worry about telling anyone because of the ‘beast’. This movie made me feel like I’m some kind of monster and that really affected my daily life in fear someone would find out
So I got into a conversation about you with my brother this morning and I’m like “She has DID or multiple personality disorder” and he said “Oh, like the movie Split” and I swear to all god I almost slapped him but I just facepalmed and muttered “Oh god” and then started to explain to him what it ACTUALLY was
I also thought that the way DID was portrayed in split was accurate. I feel so stupid now, but at least I know better 😅
It's so frustrating because if DID didn't exist and people didn't develop it, the idea of having multiple personalities in one person could and would actually be just a cool movie trope or superhero power. But it does, and people do, so it cannot be reduced to and invalidated and trivialised like that, and it certainly cannot be misrepresented by it. Media like movies is often the only exposure most people have to certain groups of people, so it is very wrong for people to say 'it's just a movie', as society has made it so much more than that.
They also brought in an aggressive/creepy character into the second season of the Marvel tv show "Iron Fist" that turned out to have DID... I stopped watching once they introduced her with this diagnosis.
Deanna R
wait seriously i was gonna watch that show🤦♀️ im glad saw this comment before i did😑
im so tired of seeing this type of things in movies and tv shows😔
I would like to provide some context on that:
That series is based on Marvel comics, and the character of Mary Walker comes from the comics (well, from Daredevil's, but that's not important). She's know in the comics as "Typhoid Mary", and she has DID in the comics as well, so potrating her with DID, as well as the exact potrayal of all of her personas (Mary Walker, known as Mary in the series, Typhoid Mary, known as Walker in the series, and Bloody Mary, who is the mysterious third alter in the series), was because they wanted to be faithfull to the comics.
Besides, The Entropy System reviewed its potrayal of DID, and they gave it a thumbs up, basically.
I have bipolar and I'm always being asked if I'm a serial killer 🤦♀️
I'm sorry for that, some people are just ignorant
I don't think she'd say that if there was only a handful of cancer movies out and in all of them, cancer made them monsters, figuratively or otherwise and that they're subhuman for it or a danger to others just because they have cancer =___=
I know this is old but I've avoided this channel for.. a while. So forgive me if I pop up here and there in old videos 🤞
It's honestly not that hard to understand, it's sad she used her disease to try and leverage her point and did so poorly.
@TheSportsGuru
I mean you could give it shot, it generally tends to go over better than passively aggressively remarking 🤷♀️
@TheSportsGuru
Alright, so I'll own up to the fact that I probably should have specified when I said "she" because I assumed the person in the comment was a female but l never meant any of that toward DID. The pronoun game has caused a misunderstanding here.
I was stating that the person comparing it to cancer probably wouldnt have done it if cancer only ever got negative screen or media coverage because then she would understand how it feels to be treated as subhuman or as a violent monster the way most media, and definitely Split, treats DID.
@TheSportsGuru
Alright so let me specify.
The woman, DisociaDID says she so I'm gonna assume their gender here, the woman who said she has cancer said that people with DID shouldnt raise a fuss about Split because its "just a movie".
She was using her disease, one that has no negative connotation associated with it to try to explain to someone else why it's the same as having *another* movie about how DID people are dangerous monsters capable at snapping at any moment.
Movies about cancer dont make the person with cancer out to be the villian, they don't make cancer victims out to be monsters, or crazy, or dangerous.
Media may not seem important, but if your only exposure to a medical condition is through the media and the media only ever shows it as a condition that makes someone demonstrably dangerous, that's horrific.
People with DID have every right to be disgusted by the movie because the media takes a traumatic coping mechanism and turn it into a sick tv/movie trope where the person with DID is either always A, victimized further for it, or B, demonized for it.
People go years, decades, even after knowing what's "wrong" with them hiding it as best they can because as far as the general public is aware, having DID makes you dangerous, makes you crazy, makes you an unsafe, untrustable person. And the media had and still has a heavy burden in leading the general public to that consensus regardless of if they meant to or should be held accountable for it or not.
If you want to understand my original post, the "she" is the woman in the video who stated she had cancer and that DID people should get over it because *she* doesn't mind there being movies about cancer patients.
@TheSportsGuru
Nah no worries, I figured that's what had happened.
Personally I do feel it's the medias responsibility to at least put a bloody disclaimer.
Unfortunately DID is uncommon enough that there is little to no reason to teach it unless a child exhibits the behavior of someone with DID. There just isn't the funding nor time.
It would be great if we could all learn about all the awful medical malaise that exists in the world and how we shouldn't treat people like shit because of it but its impractical. Its illogical, we can't teach children literally everything before they turn into young adults capable of cruelty.
As a society on whole, I'd rather hold responsible those who put out a narrative that any medical disorder makes you a dangerous, untreatable, untrustable person.
At the very least I think they should be required to state the disease they are dramatizing, and how they are dramatizing it to ensure the public, that they are trying to get to suspend their disbelief, knows what's real and what's not before going further.
I literally found your channel because I had doubts about Split's accuracy due to the film/TV industry's tendency to habitually portray mental/neurological disorders inaccurately (my own disorders included), and I sure as shit am glad I did because you have made me more aware of what DID is actually like and what it entails. Keep up the good work and congrats on passing 60K subscribers!
A few years ago I watched a Korean drama called "Kill me, Heal me" and it's about a guy who has DID. I don't have DID myself and it's not my place to judge it but I actually don't think it's a bad representation of the disorder at all. Maybe check it out and let me know what you think? It's got 20 episodes though and it takes a few episodes to get into the story.
It's basically about a guy who went through something very traumatic as a child and as a result split apart into 7 alters. None of the alters are evil (although one is kinda edgy and he's scared of integration so he kinda goes like "I'm gonna make the host disappear" but he's not evil he's just scared and doesn't do anything bad) and none of them murders anyone. The genre is not horror. Through the episodes you get to know the alters, one who is the host who tries to get his life together and tries to uncover is painful past, he's also got a child alter, a female alter, a suicidal alter, etc. He goes through therapy & all. I don't remember the end though.
But in this drama DID wasn't depicted as something crazy, scary or creepy. It was shown as a mental illness caused by trauma, and how different alters can be. I personally also think the actor did a good job. Of course they added stuff here and there for a more dramatic effect but overall I'd say the drama is 150% better to watch about DID as something as gross as Split.
Edit: I'm not saying it's 100% accurate and a perfect representation for DID but I thought I'd share it anyway, since it doesn't seem to be harmful to me. If it is then I'm sorry.
what i think i gather is, that the movies, especially the horror slasher movies, the ones that i like, says that DID has bad or can have bad parts to it, and then they roll with that idea, expand it to it being killers people lurking inside, and can jump out at any time.
what i think the difference is, is that in reality, is that the person wtih DID wuold not have that. they have protectors, and gatekeepers, but not killers. the rationale i got in my head for linking the reality as explained here, to the movies, is that the movies show a psychopath, someone already bad, presenting with DID.
not that DID has bad parts, but that a bad person happens to have DID.
I posted that i wanted your guys take on this drama and now that i have gone and watched it again after learning about DID through your videos - its actually not a good idea to watch it. I mean if you want to then thats totally up to you guys as a system. I want to watch it again to see where the story goes now that i know more about DID then i did before.
i watched it like last year and i feel like its very.... neutral ish? it doesnt depict the person w DID to be this dangerous murderer etc like most films do.
even segi, (from what i remember)he didnt really want to harm anybody. he was angry, and didnt quite know how to channel(?) his anger.
the icky part was the ending, when the alters went to what seemed like a... uhh alter heaven? DID definitely doesn't heal through romance (of which was the trope the drama used) and yeah
Where can I watch this movie? I looked on TH-cam, but it’s just pieces of the movie. Would love to watch this , thank you
@@pattykochenower4222 it's a series with around 20 episodes, if you download viki and type in kill me heal me, you'll find it
I heard of Split a while ago and as a psychology graduate, I watched it. The movie made me scared but at the same time I knew this was a horrible representation of people with DID.
A better movie about DID would be Sybil. The movie tells the story of Sybil and follows her on her healing journey, reliving her childhood trauma and finally saying goodbye to her alters as she fully intergrates and heals.
I am an animation student and I would like to create a short film with a main character that has DID - with a proper representation - sometime when I am more experienced, made more research and have developed a proper plot. I don't have DID myself, but I find it very interesting and I find it important that people understand it better. It's true that the first thing people ask when I start to talk about it is if it is dangerous and I find that very annyoing. DID has a really bad representation on the media and is generally very misunderstood and I would like to try and give my part to make it better if I can.
Exactly. I also want to write a story in which the protagonist has DID. Where they're the good guys and not the villains. I wanna show how much stigma exists too in that story. But I won't even think of publishing it before I'm able to consult psychologists, people with DID or become a therapist myself.
I also have ideas for an animated film about DID (only that it would be a full-length theatrical movied by Disney, so it already sounds impossible), and i would also potray DID accurately. In fact, that idea is the very reason i started to do a research on DID, because i readed and watched several things about movies like Dragonball Evolution and The Last Airbender, and througth that, i learned something important about making movies, and that's the impirtance of accurancy to whatever source material is at hand (in this case, a real life mental disorder).
it truly is ridiculous how they didn't add a disclaimer. i always been interested in psychology so i personally decided to look into it but my friends had watched the movie with me and of course, had that believe. after marathoning you and your system's videos i educated them on stuff :\ thank yall for putting yourselves out there and informing others.
To be honest, I enjoyed the film Split but I do agree a disclaimer should have been put in at some point of the movie but I like to credit myself with some intelligence and I watch your channel and also Multiplicity and me to educate myself and get a real perspective of DID. Have been watching your channel since just under 1000 subs and continue to enjoy all your videos. Thank you for allowing us to see in to your life and for raising awareness x
Agree, as a avid film watcher I truly loved split as a movie. However, I completely understood that it was just that.... a film. I get my education on a very real disorder here.... you are amazing @dissociaDID... KEEP IT UP
Jade: *Leans face into camera*
Me: oh shit she’s about to deliver the smack down™️
Also me: *nervous sweating despite knowing it’s not directed at me* why do I hear boss music
After learning more about M Night Shyamalan, I have no interest in supporting his movies. I just found out that he created a hoax documentary where he claimed, " as a child, Shyamalan had been dead for nearly a half-hour while drowned in a frozen pond in an accident, and that upon being rescued he had experiences of communicating with spirits, fueling an obsession with the supernatural. He later admitted that it was a publicity stunt to promote his movie The Village. I don't think he has any respect for the people he is representing in his movies, which is sad because I enjoyed The Sixth Sense.
I suggest you go watch Nostalgia Critic smash Shyamalan in almost all his videos lol
I seen a photo going around saying that “SPLIT” was based off a real person who one of his alters murdered people without him knowing and saying that DID is scary because they can not know if one of there alters is a murderer. All the comments on the post was people telling others to be scared and how DID is dangerous.
I recently went to a psychologist and told them about our system and was not believed and was prescribed antipsychotics to “get rid of them”
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Wtf???? Well that shows how stupid people are.
That makes me so sad, I want to send out hugs to everyone going through this. Psychosis is it’s own separate issue and should not be thrown out Willy nilly instead taking the time to find the right diagnosis. From all the research I’ve done there is nothing “dangerous” and you all should not be put in a box because you are much more than that.
OMG, thats horrible, even psychologist are so uneducated!!!
This is such an important video! It was Split that led me, in part to your videos. I was already somewhat aware of DID and knew that it's representation in the media was inaccurate, for the most part. I was lucky enough to watch Split with a friend who is much more knowledgeable about mental health in general than I am and we discussed some of the problems with Split after we watched it. It bothered me to think that something that REAL people have to deal with was so poorly represented and riddled with misinformation. That's when I started seeking out more info and came across your videos and I've been watching them ever since. I would have known without my friend that Split was not an accurate representation of DID but just how damaging that movie really is probably wouldn't have occurred to me.
split was a movie about people like me who were abused in satanic rituals
@@brookefederline3109 what do you mean by that? 🤔
@@Ari_Nekochan there is a thing satanic cults do. They traumatise on purpose to cause DID. Then the Alters they train in witchcraft. They learned this over hundreds of generations. It's called satanic ritual abuse and mind control. Allot of alter personalities are called beast. It's a very intricate deep subject not understood by most.
Hi! I just wanted to say thank you for shedding light upon this important topic, I might also have been one of those people who have misconceptualized DID, and I appreciate this very much. I hope that more people will see this and get to know the real disorder. I'm sorry that a lot of people with DID had to suffer because of the stigma. I really do hope that it stops for the greater good. Hoping the best for you Chloe! Just discovered your channel days ago :) I'm an avid fan of your work, and been genuinely enjoying learning about DID.
I loved his movies. All of them and had HUGE respect for m.Night Shyamalan...
Until today.
I am so sorry honey. And I took his portrayal as a guideline for my own mental issues. I am so upset hearing this. He was feeding me lies that I myself was a monster! Thank you for making these videos. I am grateful to God I found you!
I'm recently coming to terms with having parts(and probably DID/OSDD, but we're still working on what an actual diagnosis would be with our therapist), and it really sucks to realize Split is now in the "well made but too stigmatizing to enjoy anymore" pile.
Thank you for your videos, they've really been helping all of us between therapy sessions. You're very calming and reassuring.
I absolutely love how calm and respectful you answered the message, Chloe and Jade did a fantastic job at eloquently adressing every single problematic aspect.
You are doing such important work debunking harmful misconceptions and eduacating on mental health.
I just became a patron and hope you will be able to keep up the amazing work :)
i can’t believe people tried to claim chloe was playing “oppression olympics” because of this video… she’s just stating facts and she even wished the person who sent the message a speedy recovery. meanwhile the messager literally called them foolish and childish and tried to tell THEM how to feel! chloe’s incredibly articulate and polite even while disagreeing.
I’ve never seen split, you’re the first thing I’ve ever seen of DID! I’ve been subscribed for a while and this genuinely makes me mad. I don’t have DID myself, but I’ve seen so many of your videos that I know a bit about this, but obviously not as much as you. I am actually mad that the movie didn’t portray it realistically from what you’ve said about it. I can’t believe how uneducated some people are.
It seems to me that the girl who wrote a comment like that doesn´t realize how many people around the world are uneducated and not informed about not just this matter but everything.. It´s a bit selfish and egoistic to think - Just because I know something, the other people must know it too. It doesn´t work that way, I wish it would.. -.-
I wish all the DissociaDID members lots of patience with everybody, lots of love and support on your way! ;) Don´t worry, there are still people who don´t judge based on movie or whatever and who are not scared to get some more information to know you better.. :))
As somebody who already knew about DID, I took Split as what it was, just a movie, and I enjoyed the movie and it's plot. However I do agree, it does create a lot of stigma towards DID and maybe they should have done a similar thing without using DID as a plot point
it's actually about people like me who have been thru satanic ritual abuse. it's a representation at the very crazy end of the scale
I too already had a basic knowledge of DID (admittedly very basic, but enough to know its a mental health issue caused by significant childhood trauma), and took both films as fantasy/comic films, nothing more and certainly not based in realism. But I was disgusted to find out the film makers have been so ridiculous in their backlash, and even more horrified to find out people honestly believe it can be in anyway realistic! But then I look at my own experiences and boycotting a recent documentary by Channel 4 about babyloss, not because of the content or the intent of the program, but the despicable ways in which footage was taken with a massive lack of consent. So really I shouldn't be surprised at all about this 😣
@@emmahayward6333 many of us have DID from satanic ritual abuse and guess what our main part or alter is called. the beast. mk.ultra is Real. the movie was a illuminati script for what want us satanic programmed individuals to do.
russ dizdar wrote the book about us chosen ones called the black awakening. there's millions of survivors out here with split brain programming and alters called beast but I'm sure you'll just laugh this off thinking I'm crazy...
@@brookefederline3109 not laughing off anything, just extremely saddened it happens. I appreciate you dont know me at all, but know this, I wouldn't laugh off anyone's trauma! Please dont judge me in that way
@@emmahayward6333 well most people do! I've been called all sorts of crazy trying to tell people what the evil people are doing. sorry i assumed you would too
can you imagine the last 5yrs trying to expose the truth. everyone thinks it's just amovie. hellywood is the epicentre of mk uktra and use the movies to show what they do and what they're plans are.
Split got me curious about DID and therefore I found your channel. Before that I had heard and thought“multiple personalities” had been debunked. It turns out I was misinformed, that simply the name had changed. I understand how you could see it as harmful, but my personal experience is the opposite. Personal experience of course doesn’t mean much.
Thank you for creating this channel and making so many informative videos about DID! I found your channel after watching Split and trying to find out more about DID. When I was watching it, I did enjoy it as a movie, but retrospectively, I really felt uncomfortable about the way they portrayed DID, self-harm, and abuse. Knowing the director had so many people reach out to him and try to point him in a better direction and that he REFUSED is truly disturbing. I knew nothing about DID when I saw that movie, but I'm so glad I found this channel to actually learn about what it is. Thank you for sharing your experiences
Chloe and Jade did such a good job at articulating their thoughts on this! It’s so important to get accurate information out there and try and dismantle the stigma
I like when she also promotes another TH-camr who also advocates Dissociative Identity Disorder
You can find links to their channels in the description! 😘
Systems Supporting Systems, always. We've all been through so much and it's taken many of us a long time to find each other. I love them all like they're family.
I see us as if we are standing together and holding hands, a front line against stigma and abuse to protect Systems who aren't as fortunate or able, and sharing our experiences and knowledge to educate the world.
We stand so strongly together because a lot of us have never experienced that before. We are all united in wanting to make the world a better place with our voices and I'm so proud of my fellow DID TH-camrs. There's no selfishness in true advocacy. 💖
The first exposure to DID for me was When Rabbit Howls, an EXTREMELY graphic but very eye opening novel about a person with DID and the trauma they faced which helped form it...when I watched Split, I was very confused, and read many things that when back and forth between it’s not real to people with DID are exactly like how it’s portrayed in Split.
I’m so sorry that this film was made with no clarifications, and little understanding of how DID actually works. That just makes me very irritated for you. Stay strong, DissociaDID system. You’re so helpful!! I’m so glad I found you, so I can learn more!
Two years have passed and nothing has changed, I've seen at least two new shows with characters who have DID and both of them are portrayed as ,,crazy" and dangerous.
You're right. The first time I heard about DID was when I watched split, and it made me scared. Now I'd like to apologize for my misunderstanding from the bottom of my heart, and I really appreciate that u made this video. Thank you very much, and apologize again.
THANK YOU!!!! I really appreciated this. I am only a DID ally but I've known 4 systems 3 in my daily life. One a child I'm adopting. I've seen them all struggle with this. The other night I was helping the support system of one system understand their first male alter. Someone actually said I hope he won't attack me. Don't worry I yelled at him.
I got this exact comment when I was telling my best friend. She was so sweet about it and listened and asked polite questions, but the guy she liked overheard our conversation and said "Oh. so you're the beast from Split?" That.. yeah that sucked. But it was made no better because I have a dog alter and he then said "And you're a furry? How much weirder can you get?" Luckily my friend stood up for me and we strived to educate him.. didn't make it hurt any less though.
Side note. Literally just hearing about this movie coming to theaters made me face palm knowing the stigma would only grow worse.
i just want to thank you for shedding light on this disorder that so few people know about. i feel truly inspired by what you're doing, and i am seriously considering writing a book about this someday, and i promise you that if i ever do, i will do some thorough research on it and even try and reach out to people like you about this. thank you so much for what you're doing. keep up the amazing work.
Chloe this touches me so deeply. It’s crucial for everyone to understand this. It’s nothing that you can push to the side. All of the systems with channels will grow and be noticed by important people and they will one day under stand. No matter what DissociaDID I’m always here for all of you, you guys are so important to me. ❤️
thank you so much... came out to a friend recently asking if they knew what DID was, and they said “oh yeah I know all about systems I saw split”,,, thank you so much for making a video about such a horrifying example of media stigmatizing disorders
Irina Clockworker 🤦♀️
I liked split for entertainment purposes but i know that did is nothing like how they portrayed it your strong for standing up and speaking out
Even though I had no experience with DID I flat out refused to watch Split as I felt that it was wrong and inaccurate~ now that I’ve learned about the disorder I feel that my decision never to watch it was validated~ all the best DissociaDID system and i wish to express my love for you~
Honestly, I watched split 2 days ago for the first time. Now before I even watched the movie, I saw your channel and learned about DID from YALL'S channel (Sorry I am more used to saying and writing yall instead of you guys). I do not have DID but i felt offended. People do truly misunderstand DID due to movies like split. I am so sorry that yall had to make a video on this because people take what the see in movies and apply it to others with DID.
split is about people like me who were satanic ritually abused
I watched the first movie by this director who I loved, it was called "Unbreakable" it did not have this new character with "DID"...and I loved the first movie and the actors. Now after watching your channel, I refuse to watch Split or Glass. I actually didn't know about Split, Saw Glass at the store on DVD but now glad I did not buy it. Two of the main actors from "Unbreakable" are in it but also the character they portray as having DID. I won't watch it, I saw a trailer and he was made out to be evil or have an evil personality that kidnapped these girls. I don't know, just stupid! I knew that wasn't right. I watched a TV movie in the 80's I believe about a girl with MPD now DID "When Rabbits Howl" (I think) was the book it was based on. She was not violent at all. And the movie just made me ill and sick when I saw her abuse flashbacks which they said in the movie they could not put everything or how bad it really was or people would not been able to handle it. I am so mad at the director of Split. He has lost me as a fan of his movies which used to be so much fun. I believe he is the director. His movies always made me think or were scary in a fun way, but this is really a bad thing he has done to not even say "Hey this is not how the illness really is, just fiction for my scary movie. Some sort of disclaimer should have been put at the beginning I think and end. I am so sorry. I would like to see them do a film about someone with DID that is true and accurate and educates society like they did for people with Schizophrenia. "A Beautiful Mind" was so well done, true story. My late husband suffered all his life from Paranoid Schizophrenia. He was a gentle loving man who would have never hurt anyone except maybe himself. We couldn't talk about it in public unless we referred to it as "S" because my husband said people would look at him like he was "bug" and afraid of him. So horrible! And even with that film I think people still look at people with it as "crazy" or "dangerous"...on the news some guy shoots up a movie theater and is called Schizophrenic, show a picture of him with crazy look in his eyes, not all are violent, in fact I would say most are not though I have not looked it up. Sorry this was so long. Hang in there, I have learned so much from you.
Mr. Glass from Unbreakable, another movie by the same people, has Osteogenesis Imperfecta. I also have OI and the movie gets SO MUCH wrong.
Ugh im so sorry
@@DissociaDID Same! I'm so sorry for you too. I'm also anxious for Glass to see if they get OI any more wrong..
That is so frustrating :(. I am sorry that happened. I bet it affects how people view and understand OI. I know that I have PCOS and have a specific diet set by a nutritionist for my health needs. A coworker tried to tell me it was wrong many times with the logic, "I go to Weight Watchers, I know about healthy eating". Just because you know a small (inaccurate) amount about a health condition doesn't mean you know more than the person who actually has it!
@@karanolan It absolutely does affect the way people view OI, I actually was inspired by this video to do a video on unbreakable. I'm sorry that people do that to you :(
Its a supernatural super hero movie. Not a movie about the actual thing.
split and glass might not be good movies for DID and you might never get any real representation in the media which is lik super sad but lets consider this:
A romcom where one of the main characters has DID
There's one: What if it works?
The movie really is harmful, when I watched the movie, my bf of that time was convinced that's how it works irl and I kept on telling him it's just fiction.
Well said! I don't have DID but I'm living with Aspergers syndrome, chronic fatigue and Fibromyalgi all wich come with a great deal of stigma because they're invisible illnesses. 😕 Oh, but you look fine! They say. Well I'm really not! And an email penpal I had actually wrote to me : But you write so well, you can't have Aspergers! REALLY! Honey..No. So I get it my dears! Love all of your videos! Keep doing what you're doing, an spread the word. Love from Sweden 💕
Aspie here too! Hilsener fra Norge :)
@@tripodologia Hei der Aspie fra Norge! Aspie Solidarity 👊 Nice to "meet ya" 😊
Fellow Aspie. Writing is far easier for me than speaking to people in person.
@@karanolan Couldent agree more.
I almost never talk on the phone, I definitely prefer SMS, chats, and email. It's one way to reduce all the anxiety we feel. Right? Apspie solidarity 👊 ❤ from Sweden
@Kennedy Flint we are not alone.
. I think it's a big issue! And I think Soo many life have just been struggling whit this, and something has to be done.
we need a several serious documentary on Aspergers , a good one , to Really show how
We feel. 💕
I really love this channel. I found it while trying to better understand what my friends with DID were experiencing and it's been so helpful, thank you
Hi! Thank you Chloe and Jade for bringing awareness to this issue. Also thank you Chloe for having the courage to start this channel and thank you to the other alters for being confident and comfortable enough to share and support your decision. I feel deeply privileged and honored to know your story and will continue to learn about DID.
P.S I'm proud of you and Jade for working together on this!
Sending love from Atlanta, Georgia, USA😘😘😘
I personally have a close family member who works a lot with people who have DID and helps them with communication with their alters and she honestly face palmed at Split and got really angry at it
I completely agree with you! There are so many ignorant and impressionable young people who will take what they see in that movie (because thats the first time they've even heard of the disorder) and will regurgitate what they think they know from that movie.
Too many people treat works of fiction like non fiction. It's really problematic when they use fiction for their knowledge base.
Luckily I didn’t even know about split before I found your channel. Once I found your channel and started learning about DID I forget the name of this channel and just looked up DID and found this movie called split and I thought it might just be another interesting documentary but when I clicked on the video there were some girls sitting in a car and then suddenly some stuff happened and I was just like. This is not accurate!! I hope more people become informed by this video. I love your channel!! 💕💗💖💞
I am so interested to learn more about DID. I stumbled here yesterday from my recommended feed and-- wow. I have to compliment all of you on your hard work here. I can't even imagine the stress that having DID puts on all of you! I was researching a bit more on the subject and I found out that your system has a remarkable level of communication and trust (between the main alters that I have seen). I'm so happy that this kind of positivity and awareness is being spread about such a stigmatized disorder. Warm wishes to Chloe, Kyle, Jade, Nadia, Sally, all of the littles and every single last one of you! Keep doing what you're doing!! 💕💕💕
Someone make a gif of Chloe coming up to the camera and going "no honey"
Bc omg that's hilarious
YES PLEASE!!
your the best. Ive been nervous coming out to close one with DID. Ive told serval people who THANK GOODNESS didnt know about split but Im nervous for the people that do..
for the ones who do, send them this video ;)
I came across your channel about a month ago, and I have been learning more from both you and other DID channels. I have yet to see Split, and this video has given me a reason to tell anyone who may watch it why it is indeed an incorrect interpritation. Thank you for the education I have so desperatly needed in this disorder.
Wishing you love, Riley
i’m so glad that the first i heard about DID was an awareness post, i was confused and googled it and found your channel, so thankfully i was correctly informed from the start! this is why channels like this are so important and relevant, if i hadn’t found something like this, i could have a completely warped view on DID and the same could be applied to pretty much any condition and it sucks!
Wow, this was super interesting and informative! I binge watched all of your videos last night and I have to say you guys are doing an amazing job really explaining this disorder
Omg I don´t believe that person wrote that to you. But there are people with empathy in this world that believe what you guys say and care about educate themselves to stop all the stigma even if they don´t suffer from DID. I´m one of those ppl. Send you lots of love and support!
Actually, after I watched the movie 'Split', I started to inquire about people with multiple personalities, and that's how I found you.😅
And I'm so glad that happened.❤
I’m so glad that there are systems sharing accurate information about DID! I just watched the movie Split, I was curious to know more about the disorder (since I had never heard anything more than the name of it) and I found you and other channels that have these awesome educational videos that actually help us to understand better.
It’s sad that not everybody has the initiative to go and look for further information about a topic that a movie barely touches, or to investigate if it is even accurate in its representation, but I’m glad that you and other systems are spreading the word and help fight ignorance and discrimination one viewer at a time! ❤️
Thank you!
I’m sending y’all huge hugs all the way from Colombia 🇨🇴❤️
Well I guess I'm one of those people that watched 'Split,' used common sense, and found my way here. So, I don't regret that and I'm glad it happened Your Alters(especially hearing Sally's nurturing and calming voice)and the information you spread throughout your channel is the reason I stay, but also the reason I'm going to give support on your Patreon. So, here's a positive spark that 'Split' lit for you to mark down.
You know what I would love, a relatively light sitcom, including some deep moments of course, about a person with DID. That person, or those people (because multiple of course) actually living relatively normal, like having a job, relationships with colleagues and friends and them reacting well to switches. Something that would normalise it more and create more understanding and is also a fun light show to watch.
This was my first thought when I watched the ad for split. I was so upset and it seemed like no one cared or talked about it. Thank you so much for talking about this.
I found this channel first before i even heard about split. this was about a month ago. after i watched a lot of these videos and learned a lot about DID, i watched the movie. i honestly lives the movie. it was entertaining and intriguing. even though i loved it, i do agree that it is not an accurate portrayal of DID. not much of it is factual. but i’m glad i watched it because i could compare facts with fiction. thank you so much for making this channel. we appreciate every one of you so much and youre going a good thing!❤️
The ironic thing is you create content with more entertainment and valuable insight, by yourselves, with a fraction of the "SPLIT" budget. I had zero real world knowledge of DID before your channel and I somehow ended up watching and enjoying all your content. Meanwhile never batting an eye at the obviously low hanging fruit with an outdated trope that is "SPLIT".
Thanks for making this video. Strangely I became interested in watching "SPLIT" after coming across your videos, however you can take this as a pledge that instead I'll be standing beside you in your boycott.
First, if you are just trolling, please stop. I am going on the premise that you aren't, giving you the benefit of the doubt.
Critical-RAGE, imagine if you had a rare disease that could be easily seen by others. Let's say you have a large, red lump that moves around your face and neck. Sometimes, it goes unnoticed by you because its in a spot that doesn't hurt. Sometimes it causes blinding headaches. Even worse, when you try to lay down for sleep at night, the lump moves to just the wrong place keeping you from getting comfortable enough to sleep regularly. A few thousand people in the country have the same condition, and some treatments are starting to come forward. However, a film maker looking to make a quick buck sees you on the internet, googles the issue, then writes a screenplay about it.
This movie has healthy people getting injured by a man with the Red Lump. It has an ooze that infects other people, sometimes killing them. The main character would NEVER harm anyone, but sometimes, due to lack of sleep, he wanders the night, poisoning people as he goes.
Now you, in real life, become even more ostracized and self conscious then ever. Some of the funding dries up. You and those who share your disease find it harder then ever to get help.
THIS is why it is the movie's fault. D.I.D. is still new to the world at large as a serious condition. It already has connotations attached to it by the public at large. How many people researched Quantum Theory and the Quantum Real before seeing Ant-Man and the Wasp? Same here... people go see movies and simply accept what their eyes show them. All it would have taken is a small effort on their pert to mitigate some of the damage.
Actually, that applies to us all. If every person makes just a small effort, great change and love would arise.
@@johnaskings527 I have a question. Who are you replying to?
@@Ari_Nekochan I know this is a super late reply, but it looks like the commenter they were replying to deleted the comment.
thank you for this. i tried opening up DID topic between classmates, friends, bc it was mentioned by our Gen. Psychology teacher and since I've watched probably all of your videos of explaining DID and other channels that's also a system, so i thought, why not share a bit of what i know and when i actually did, what they said was actually literally what those comments you've shown, they saw 'Split' and that happened. Fortunately, i haven't watched 'Split', not even once. so thank you for this, it'll save me more time soon.
you are such an intelligent and articulate advocate for your community and I'm so glad you are out here in the world. Well done!
Split was definitely my first impression on DID and while I didn't think that it could "unlock hidden powers", it did give a completely wrong perspective. After watching Anthony Padilla's interview with you in it, I've been watching a lot of your videos. DID is WAY different than I thought it was. It's a shame that Split didn't portray it as it should have.
I've purposely never seen either movie, nor am i interested in it. Its the same reaction i have to films that portray stereotypes of black people/women. I already have to do things to enact propper representation on a social and cultural scale, having to do such with any of my diagnosis' is insensing and i can only handle so much so, what i can avoid/control, i do.
It’s sickening when the media feed into stigmas, they should be there to help break them, awful awful awful people!!
When I was first diagnosed with post natal depression if I ever told someone I would get looked at like I’d hurt one of my kids and that’s far from the truth, stigmas are so so damaging!!
Hope you’re all well💖
Hi DissociaDID! I've watched this video before but I'm back again to use this in an essay I'm writing for school about stigmas surrounding mental illnesses/disorders like DID! I want to thank you for teaching me about DID and how you guys live with it. I enjoy all your videos and I hope you're doing well and continue to teach people about this disorder. Thank you so much!
Hi DissociaDID!! I'm from Colombia. I've been watching your videos for like a week now. I love what you do, I think people like you are a gift for your community and for us, the people that are always trying to learn about difference, and who love it. You can be sure I will pass the word and educate people on DID, being very careful and sending them your videos.