MY BIGGEST FEAR IS RUST. Part-2 RANGE ROVER PLAN OF ATTACK | 4xOverland
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Bless Gwen's heart.
45 seconds of Andrew in the kitchen and it looks like a crime scene.
😂🤪😂
I love the idea of a restomod. Keep the spirit of the Range Rover alive but make it a place that you enjoy being in for long periods of time.
Hi Andrew, beautiful old Range Rover, I’d keep it original, these old Rovers are scarce now and it will bring a smile to your face every time you look at her. Buy a 80’s Range Rover as a daily driver. I’m sure what ever you do with her it will be good.
Gotta love an Aussie mechanic .... Who tells it like it is ! A worthy project... And a great Sunday driver.treat it like an old retired pensioner...
Andrew if I'm reading this right, you bought the vehicle because of what it means to you. Drive it, tinker with it, treat it like your old range rover that you so dearly miss. This car defines you, so dont try to define it!
perfect response
I'm pretty sure the restomod idea should be revisited after the 3000km drive. Old cars have a habit of making you fall for them via the stockholm syndrome.
Oom Andrew, this is your pride and joy. 99% of the time, you mod a vehicle the way a traveller is supposed to. I say, let your artistic side loose and go big with a restomod. Make it a one-of-kind vehicle and go big! One Life. Live it. 😎
Its about the process, not about the end game
Yes restomod it but keep interior as original as you can. Then use it as daily driver plus as a weekend overlanding car. Then do "Old style Overlanding" series, would be cool too watch, bring back your big box.😉
Oh Yes Andrew (DRIVE IT) like you've never drive it before and "ENJOY" every moment of it!!!!
The intro and the music gave me goosebumps. 50 seconds of bliss. Well done.
Think resto Mods are great ideas. Turns something lovely into lovely practical and usable. We love classic cars because how they look, the way they drive is their weakness.
I recently purchased a 1978 Rolls Royce and faced the same delema as you now do.
I decided to keep it original and it is a dream to drive and i love the way people stop and stare.
You own a piece of automotive history be bold and proud.
Love your channel.
Resto-mod is the way to go, aesthetically original, driveline modern
Daily driver is a great idea :)
Restomod will let you enjoy this beautiful Range Rover for longer and more often!
Hi Andrew, here's the thing. Watch this video again ten times, and you will have talked your self into the Resto-mod idea. Brilliant! Looks like you could use a cool daily driver. You know the drill, Auto, AC, PS, looking down at the peasants as you glide by in your in your Range Rovahh! you deserve it. Go for it.
I think a resto mod would be an excellent and interesting project to watch. That is as long as it brings you joy.
LS3. I have one in my 90, but with a manual 6 speed. It’s like it was made for it, a perfect match. Smooth, quiet, very reliable and the power is intoxicating. Not to mention if you build it well the resale value could be huge. If you want to enjoy it daily, don’t get hung up on originality. You put modern heating and insulation into old buildings and it doesn’t ruin them, it keeps them useful and relevant. So I’d say keep the outside and interior original but refreshed, then update the mechanics to the modern day so it’s a truly useable (and enjoyable) classic.
The GM LS series V8 is the easy button for a lot of projects where a repower is desired. Andrew would be well served to explore that option, as far as I know the LS series V8’s are common enough in Australia to make this a viable option. Here in the States of he LS swap is very common. Hard to argue with 400+ hp, and 400+ lb-ft that is reliable, compact, and inexpensive.
Modernise the drive train and mechanicals. Leave everything else as it is because that tells it’s story. It’s a beautiful original vehicle and should be preserved as it is. Preserve the exterior don’t repaint it. Preserve as much of the interior as possible. Just make it the type of vehicle that you want to take cruising just for the sake of driving it.
Hi! This vehicle is the most beautiful shape ever, in my opinion! Just look at it!!!!
I have gone weak at the knees!!!
Maybe consider a softer resto-mod where you keep the interior as original as possible alongside the mechanical upgrades. Done sympathetically you would still have the nostalgic feel of the cockpit, but with the additional comforts. Kind of like the VW campers with Subaru/Porsche conversions.
Make it mechanically as good as new and make it safe. Keep to original or you'll lose the very reason you have bought it for. This car and these videos so far as I see, are about recapturing something. You've rebought the car of your youth to retrieve something that's lost in modern vehicles, modern travel and modern life! Keep the big Toyota for your modern life and the big journeys. Keep the Rangie as it is, for weekends when you want to time travel back to the 1970s.😆 All the best with it. Cheers!
Seeing how clean the vehicle is, I'm not too sure that resto-mod is the way to go. It would be great to preserve as much originality of the vehicle as much as possible. For me, Resto-modding a nvehicle makes sense if much of the vehicle's mechanicals and bodywork need replacing and "while your down there" can improve on and make better.
This vehicle is pretty much a great museum piece. I imagine, 50 years down the line visiting some off road museum and seeing it displayed as "Andrew's Range Rover" in the same way that Roothy's Milo is displayed right now.
However you do plan to use the vehicle, as a daily driver, etc., and after driving so many modern Toyotas, you tend to have different expectations of what a daily should be now. On the other hand, you bought it for the nostalgia of your old Range Rover. So the seat comfort, etc., should remind you of it. Would, for example, changing the seats give you the same nostalgic feeling? Would it remind you of your old Range Rover?
Writing this, I've just worked it out in my head.. You have already some uprated headlights, shocks, etc. These are definitely not stock parts.. they ARE upgrades and to get it registered, you will have to get be in compliance with some modern criteria. There's no way going around it, if you want it road legal.
In my mind, a question just popped up.. "What if Andrew had never sold his original Range Rover and kept it all these years?.. What would it look like?.. And What would he have done to it?"..
And I think that is what you should do to this vehicle. The premise of owning this current Range Rover is to get back the vehicle you lost / sold.. So What would it look like today had you not sold it?... Regardless of what myself or anyone thinks, that's the vision that you have to follow; simply because it ties the two vehicles together into the story of Andrew St. Pierre White.
Using Siri for perfect comic timing! Bravo!
Restomod sounds good to me but with the interior looking as original as possible within that. Original seats etc. Really looking forward to seeing what you do as always.
Keep her all original, isnt that why u feel in love with her in the first place!
Andrew - It would be great to see the underside dry ice cleaned, then some sort of underbody sealer. Then it will be ok for another 40+ years.
Agreed.
Siri chimes in with impeccable timing. Apparently Chevrolet has crate electric options that adheres to their normal V8 crate motor packaging criteria. As a long distance overlander it makes no sense, but as a daily it might ? The older chassis with simple electronics make for great electro swaps. Really enjoying this series even though it just started.
Interesting idea
👍yup,, that 3.5L V8 is basic off a American
BUICK V8 engine.
British Leyland acquired the tooling to produce those in house. IIRC🤔.
Restomod all the way, have fun with it. Also film the project for us.
I was so looking forward to this video
Leave it alone. It’s much better to enjoy it in its factory state. I’ve always regretted my restomod Jeep’s. I’ve finally gotten a new Jeep to drive daily and keep the old one for fun days.
You have to love British Leyland, the only car company that can build a car that rusts in Australia
I'm torn.... Like the restomod idea will make you use it and nice to drive etc. but, if you are a bit of a purist or in Land Rover terms a "rivet counter" then the idea of keeping it all original is appealing......
100% agree
@@willemtell479 not an easy one
I have less than half of your experience in the 4X4 touring life. However as I share the same passion thought I would put my view on this project if I am lucky enough to acquire one.
1) Strip down to bare metal and sand/dry ice blast all the rust, repair with stainless sheet on the body where possible. Followed by a good rust spray or raptor liner on all vulnerable areas.
2) Upgrade to a reliable 5 speed manual or 6 speed auto transmission, retain the same V8 & replace the carb to modern day fuel injection with electronic controls for better fuel efficiency, torque, power and better emission.
3) Add front and rear diff locks if possible.
4) Rebuild suspension to stock, add adjustable shocks.
5) Retain the interior, exterior and under hood as close to stock as possible with needed creature comforts and conveniences.
And the vehicle I believe, will be good for another decade or two.
I think a modernization is a fantastic idea. Take to the beach on the weekend and to the shops during the week.
An early model like this isn't the ideal starting point for that though. 4 speed. Gear driven center diff. Its slow and LOUD. But hey I would love to see one in the city. I always smile when one materializes in my eyesight.😍
The current state of the car is excellent for its age. What you can do is built it from striping it down to frame. Paint the frame, then repair body cosmetically. Upgrade engine, gearbox, air-conditioning and suspension to newer models of range rover. That way you will enjoy your favorite car and it will be reliable as well. I hope you read this, fingers crossed. Cheers
P76 V8 with Holley & electronic ignition. Super reliable, all the power you want and you still get to keep that fantastic Range Rover sound. power steering, aircon to make it comfortable. I’d keep it manual but personal choice. Put a good suspension in it, no lift and tidy up the inside and keep it original. Make a great daily driver.
Kitchen segment,... the coffee & cellphone moment, 'very funny!'
Big salute to 4xoverland and big greetings to shaikh hamed bin hamdan Al nehyann for the big support... What a nice and humble man... Da from uae
I am sure going to visit the museum during my transit in UAE.
@@anuanuruddha631 you are most welcome to UAE
@@aesa3628 Miss the UAE now that my son is no longer there. Redundant as a result from Covid.
Andrew, pause this video at 00:45, when the letters dissapear and it's only you, the sunrise and the Range Rover... If you make a poster from that scene in good quality I would buy one right now.
I love this project! Enjoy your Ranga in good health, Andrew!
Definitely restomod, someone with your taste will leave it amazing AND useful
What a relief when that music stops.
I think you should keep it 100% original as it was in 1975! Resto-mod will also be cool.
It must be nice to drive, that is the key. Modern EFI and automatic transmission from a late 80s early 90s Rangie, aircon for sure, but keep the rest stock, that is where the character of these vehicles lies. Personally though, I'd love to watch videos of you touring in a mid 70s classic Range Rover with all the issues which may crop up from time to time!
Thank you so much for the storytelling, Andrew. I'd be lying if I said I wasn't a little emotional.
Restomod is a fantastic idea! Daily it and be happy!
So here's a thought, what about a super charger? It'll have the immediate throttle response like an N/A engine, no lag, and with the addition of an engine computer, should be able to be tuned to be reliable and make plenty of power. Trickier? most definitely, but it keeps it more original. Also, I see no reason you'd have to change the interior that much on a resto-mod. Change it too much, and it won't "be the same" when you get in it. And lastly, I'm glad you intend to keep it long term, I can tell you really love this vehicle.
Don’t restomod it, just add some later model upgrades like taller high range gears, aircon, power steering, sound insulation etc. Build it for some small scale retro back to basics off-roading. Just have her as a nice classic Sunday driver
I'm with you element271. Also more power from the Rover V8.
Yeah ls swap for driveability
Well.. putting parts from the later models would essentially be the definition of resto-modding.
@@007Knightjp if restomodding is just using parts from a later year model of the same car i am all for it. Most of the time people use that term though it’s so they can drop a LS in it slam it with 18” rims or something.
@@russcattell955i a 4.9 stroker wouldn’t hurt.
Interesting project Andrew.
My feeling is that given the sentimental attachment you have for these vehicles, you may find it difficult to restomod it. Plus it looks like so far it isn't too far gone. It seems to me like a good candidate for an original authentic historical early 70s classic range rover build, something which is now very rare and the value of vehicles like this is primarily based on period correct originality and attention to detail.
Would you really be happy to sacrifice that in order to bastardise it as a daily driver?
I don't think I would.....
Put a Toyota diesel & auto trans and aircon and bob's your uncle. Reliable. Old Hilux engine would do it.
Resto mode makes all the sense in the world . Makes for a good daily driver
Andrew, I’m glad it turned out to be a solid buy on your behalf. At this time, I would bring it up to road safe for right know and drive it as you need. Eventually do the upgrades to make it your daily drive. From watching your videos and following your channels! If it’s not practical it’s time for change. With you being so passionate about this vehicle, the rebuild should be done in stages. So you can video how each upgrade changes your feelings about the vehicle and about modernizing a vintage vehicle! With some Luxuries like power steering, air conditioning, etc. Looking forward to what the future has to come. 🍻
Yes to doing the restomod conversion 👌 Please film the progress of it all. Would love to see that 😎💯
Andrew, I have had an '84 Range Rover for the last 25 years, the last few years it has been off the road and ready for a restoration similar to what you are suggesting, modern engine / gearbox, daily driver. I will be watching to see what you do, can't wait.
Excellent! Yes the tyres. I have a 1979 fj45!which was on a set of tyres dating back to 1999. I threw them away and put a set of bf goodrich on. No steering wobbles, no risk of tyre blow out
Okay. The coffee thing...brilliant.
Congratulations Andrew. I feel like you have managed to get yourself a very beautiful collectible. Have you thought of the idea to restore it i.e rebuild the engine, transmission and fully exterior and interior body restore while maintaining it in a stock condition? It would be invaluable in my opinion. Once again congratulations for a nice catch!
The restoration mod idea sounds great, I believe by doing so, you'll end up appreciating the vehicle much more.
Andrew. Firstly, i really enjoy your channel and videos. As a Namibian now residing in the UAE it warms my heart to frequently see glimpses of my beautiful home country in your videos of your wonderful adventures. I also share a love for aviation and Landies/Rangies and have one of my own, albeit a P38A..
I am really excited to follow your progress with the new Rangie you purchased. I can’t help but imagine how wonderful that car will be with a Rover 4.6 from P38A/Disco 2 along with a ZF HP24 box. Original Rover, but more of it. Anyhow, whatever you choose to squeeze under the hood, i know it will turn out brilliant. Stay safe, and keep those videos coming.
Gear/engine oil n fuel , I wouldn’t have my shed any other way , it smells blooody great . 1971 Triumph Trident. Smells lovely 👍🏼🍻
I love this project!
The only problem with the restomod idea is you will remove much of the vehicle’s personality, which is why you bought it in the first place.
In the U.S. it was common to put Chevrolet engines in older Jaguars. It ruined the car’s personality. They might as well just restore an Impala. A couple of us in the local Jag club threatened to build a 69 Camero with a 3.8 XK engine. But in the end, decided it would be a waste of a perfectly good engine. Lol
In any event this will be fun to watch!
Motor on my friend.👍
I think the great USP behind Land Rover/ Range Rover vehicles is that you can make them suit your purpose. Make it your own. If I've learnt anything in my involvement with such vehicles, make it work as it should before you do anything. It's so easy to get carried away with the wheels and tyres, lights, etc.. Any 45 year old vehicle isn't all that pleasant to drive, until it's had a certain amount of TLC. Then you can decide where you want to go with it.
Yes, a clear wrap over the current paintwork, give it that patina.
So excited for you Andrew - looks great. Really enjoying the flashbacks to the original marketing material - how you integrated those clips was fantastic.
Restomod is a great idea as long as its mostly bolt on, that way it can always go back to original ( save whatever you remove ). Pick your favorite driveline and go for it ! Also make the interior as comfortable and stock looking as possible.
Keep it simple and stock, make it reliable. If you want a daily Range Rover classic then get a 93/94/95 model
Original as possible. But if you modernise it by fitting air con or some other home comforts I think that’s just good sense. Nostalgia shouldn’t come at the cost of discomfort.
Your car Andrew so do what you want with it, I think keeping it as original as possible will help it hold its value. however a few upgrades here and there that arent tacky will surely improve the vehicle 👍
Restomodding it will be a good way of tanking the value of that car....
Hello Andrew,
I think modernisation is great, but don’t change the fantastic LT95 to an automatic box. What ist the problem with it? In most cases the shifting is hard to do, there for change the oil to a 10w40 STOU. It is an engine oil with gearbox oil additives. It’s much smoother to shift, also in cold conditions.
When the box is noisy, the lay shaft bearings have given up, a common problem when gearbox oil was filled in by the past owners. The repair is an easy job and doesn’t cost a lot.
Another idea..., take the longest street gear 1.00 for the transfer box and a4.6l V8. You can install the engine without modifications. Take the old dizzy front cover, the exhaust and inlet manifolds and carbs. You can’t see any difference to the old engine bay after the swap.
There are a few small mods needed:
Camshaft with dizzy gear, and a distance ring on the crankshaft. The oil sump needs a few hits with a hammer to get clearance for the longer conrods.
I have this set up in may 75 Range Rover and I must say it’s amazingly to drive with. The fuel consumption got five litres less to the 3.5 and 1.176 transfer gear.
With an automatic gearbox the vehicle gets more boring and tired.
Regards, Udo
Best TH-cam moments! - This one's right up there 16:44
Andrew makes himself a cup of coffee and...
I have an 84 and a 86 classic . The 84 im the second owner and had it 21 years . My 86 i have re done the whole thing . Its got a Holden 5.0 efi v8 with a t400 trans . My 84 is still pretty stock lt95 box and 3.5 with a 350 holley and extractors . I like both they go anywhere and dont get stuck . My 84 is goldrush gold and my 86 is silver . They are a money pit but still are one of the best 4wds in the world . Not the new junk the old ones .
The seats , especially the rear bench were a unique design. Keep that . Modernise a restrained Overfinch approach .
I totally get you , I bought my Land Rover 90” back after 2 years … delighted I did & am presently at the end of a rebuild.. new bulkhead, tires shocks rear Crossmember, discovery axel new callipers all round , vented up front, got my top dash made of Irish Ash wood love it , headliner is the map of the world, floor in the back is Irish ash too … Alfa Romeo seats … spear wheel carrier, new winch & bumper … going to be marine blue & a gloss black roof
Ah ya got rid of the j19 engine & gear box , transfer box , put a 300 Tdi & R380 gearbox & transfer box out of a discovery, also replaced the doors to serious doors… look nicer in my opinion, galvanised capping too
Also it’s my daily drive
You've bought youself a cracking good original RRC,Sir!!!
I hardly see them that good at our shop anymore,it's very rare.
Also you went to the right place to get it serviced and fixed.Lovely blokes who know what their doing.
As for your dilemma about how to proceed,that's a tough and personal one.
First the original car has a certain value money wise and here in Europe your car will be very expensive as is atm.
All non standard mods will affect the prize and most not in a good way,but there is a way to give you the perfect daily driver and still having it all LR and possible to get it back to original in the future.
Have it retro fitted with the later Disco 1 3.9 V8 with serpitine belt already fitted with the a\c pump,transfer the complete 3,9 EFI system into your RRC and the autobox with LT 230 transfer box.
It would transform your car like you wouldn't belive.
The complete car/axles can handle the extra power without problems and you all used standard LR parts that can be sourced anywere without special made items at extra cost.
I fitted this exact same setup a couple of times now and it's well worth the work.
Just buy a complete donor vehicle and drive it a bit to see if all works well before getting it done.
Just now there is a 2 door RRC 3.5 V8 carb. and 5 speed in our shop that i converted to Hotwire 3.9 EFI and a 4 speed auto box with LT230 from a later Voque SE.
Such a nice and relaxed car to drive now and much more user friendly.
Good luck with your beautifull car.
Love the idea of the restomod and use it daily!
resto mod is the way to go, it just makes the car that bit better over standard, or what the engineer's back then would have done if they had access to the modern equipment we have now.
i like the idea of a 4bt cummins engine though
hi andrew, with all respect - hold a second, have a coffee (maybe not an instant one), and keep focus a second.
not only hits on your channel are a mayor point of your activitys but also and i think its also very important - sympathy!
so what gives you more stories (also in the future) - more sympathy?
- ripping apart a 45year old car and put whatever conversion to it? or
- bringing this car back to life, as it was ? overhauling the engine, some adds like aircon etc.-done
speaking for myself i hardly understand why people want an old vehicle but want this cars with 21st century perfomance- powerful engines, smooth automatic gearboxes, comfort? they throw thousands and thousands of cash in the project, but it isnt and will never be a 21st century car and its originaly is completly lost. its a frankenstein.
there are thousands of this restmods-projects around, but the main attention, the smiles, are always winning the old ladys with their quicks and quaks and moody souls. especialy how you started the story with your footages from the old days- people like this
I have the feeling that you don't really feel exited about this project, if I am right there wouldn't be anything wrong with it. Sometimes we fall in love with the idea of doing something but then when we actually get to do it we realise that maybe that project really didn't need to be done.
Sorry for my english, it's not my first language, I am Italian.
That is exactly correct!
That is why there are so many half done car,boat,or airplane projects for sale!
Your English is A+
New Defender is the Best thing out of Land Rover Since Range Rover Classic !!
New Defender is the RR Classic Replacement.
A restomod old Rangie would be a fun daily. For the size of the vehicle, a cummins R2.8 with an auto behind it would be great.
What a fun project.
Compared to daily driving a 100k+ dedicated overland truck, it's probably worth it to throw some money on having another daily driver. Also, that Siri notification was goooooold.
Restomod? Talk to TheSkidFactory! I can see a channel crossover coming :)
Makes me Goosey !! lol
Been there done that with The Range Rover Classic !! so i fully comprehend your passion !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Making it your daily driver is my vote Andrew. It’ll be your pride and joy!
Andrew I’m a subscriber to your idea of keeping exterior stock but upgrading the mechanicals. I’ve fitted a BMW V12 into my RRC and you wouldn’t even know it’s in there. Car still looks factory original 👍 I’m enjoying your RR journey.
Hey Andrew, You should not have a problem to source upper dash they were same for all the years. I personally own automatic 3.9 and I agree that this particular drive train suits the vehicle very well. But there is something about that bootleg shifter :-). I would propose tasteful upgrade instead of restomod. Upgrade transmission to LT77 5-speed, rebuild engine with hi-torque cam and upgrade it to modern ignition and fuel injection - It will make 125kW easy. And you got stylish daily usable classic with all the character retained. As a bonus you can keep carbs in a box to make purists happy.
With today’s sensor-centric cars and engines, I long for my naturally aspirated, electronics free trucks. If I had my way, I’d want my 1972 4x4 International Travelall back in my garage. All 8,000 pounds of her. A 390 CI V-8, 50 gallons of fuel, all steel dashboard, Warn winch, and 12” wide BFGs, she’d never, ever get stuck. When it would break down in Baja California, I could fix it with what I had in my tool box.
Restoration, modernisation is what I’d do. Really enjoying this series!!
Andrew, consider a Discovery 300Tdi, uprated, with all the specifications you described. Keep the V8 in storage, in case you want to sell it, and the next owner wants to restore it.
fella at Rangie Heaven came across as a top operator ,he knows hes craft
Liking the restomod concept.
Great find! Enjoy the process.
Siri is so useless. Thanks for the chuckle, Andrew. My phone indeed, does have a mind of it's own. Somewhat unnerving knowing that we're always being listened to. All the more reason to go overlanding . I love the rover by the way. What a beauty.
Pete's a good bloke i blew my 300tdi up and i bought a complete car off him and pulled the motor from that. I got him to redo the head gasket and timing in it and reassemble it. i since that car but its still running and driving
Restomod for the win. Don't go overboard with an "LS Swap" though. Stick to this engine pedigree and find an EFI 4.0, 4.2/4.3 or 4.6 Rover engine from the newer models. And if at all possible keep the original parts. Come to think of it, the 5.0 version from some TVR models would be the ultimate incarnation of this engine.
The white lettering tire walls are mounted in ward.... love it!!!!
If you want a restomod and a reliable daily. My advice is to ship it back to Melbourne and have Les Richmond Automotive work their magic.
You won't regret it! 👍
turn it into what you'll love...Here in Florida that little bit of rust wouldnt matter but then we dont have any inspections at all