as someone who cares about 1440p and raster performance i was surprised by how well the 7900 gre did compared to the 300 euro more expensive 4070 ti super. i was under the impression that the ti super was a lot better than the gre but this video totally opened my eyes and made it easier for me to choose a gpu for a pc build, that is if i had the money to buy any of these god damn parts 🤣☠
tbh, after owning a 3080 10gb for 3 years already, I really want to move towards a newer card... but none of these cards is a solid 30% above mine at the moment, although the 7900xt is almost there, but dang in my canadian dollars it's over 1000$. Even reselling my 3080, I would have to shell 500$ or 600$!! Insane! Also, if Nvidia had actually put the right amount of vram on their cards they'd be WAY easier to buy. Ilearnt the lesson with the 10gb: it's NOT enough in many games already. I'll wait for next year, but given how SLOW both brands release their cards, I will have to wait for june 2025 for a 5070 (Nvidia) or a 8800 (AMD)...
@@niyazzmoithu20 Overall, does it matter? I mean, i recently ordered a 4070ti super via the ASUS store, which has a sale on for it, now if i got a 4090 to play at 1440p 120fps, so what if it is overkill? All i care about is smoothness and the temps being as low as possible.
@@niyazzmoithu20 i use a 7900xt for 1440p aswell, i have a 1440p 165hz monitor, and if i can get 165 ish fps, its a perfect choice. who needs 4k if you dont have the monitor to support it ?
This video is such an amazing coincidence! Based on your recent videos on the AMD cards, I decided to go with team red for the first time ever (7900XT from broken 3080). However, I was still a bit worried for driver issues and wasn't really 100% convinced that the 4070TiS would not be the better choice. Now, after ordering yesterday, your results have absolutely proven my decision to be the right one! That's amazing! (Playing on 4k165hz on my main screen and got a 4k144hz secondary)
You will find out that the Driver issues that you hear about are very over exaggerated as I did along with the poor performance lies, they throw out there.
@@adammartin4906 But these AMD gpus er totally overkill on powerconsumption, the 7900xt using +100-130 watts more than the 4070 TI SUPER, if you are not the one paying for the electrical bills, sure go ahead, but otherwise, the 4070ti super will be less expensive to play on.
@@HH-hb9uy whaaat lol you mean the 7900 xt is 15 watts more were on earth are you getting 100-130 watts more lmfao. I build servers and PCs for a living and not sure were on earth you got those numbers, but they are completely false because the 4070 TI uses 285watts and the 7900 xt uses 300 watts so this difference once again is 15 watts which is not enough to affect your power bill or mine for that matter lol
Got a Hellhound 7900gre when they 1st launched. Very happy with it, especially with the latest update. It's always nice to see a card punching above its weightclass in these comparisons. When FSR 3.1 releases, things should only get better. Great video, as always.
Will SAM impact vary depending on CPU? Eg i have a 5800x3d will i expect to see same fps as those shown in the video? Or even from ddr4(which I'm still on) to ddr5
@@abutalsafuba2179 That is a very good question. Which to the first part I can't seem to find the answer to. I don't see videos comparing CPU's with and without SAM to see the gain. That being said there are enough videos comparing the 7700x vs 5800X3D and they are not far off. @ancientGameplays also has a video with these two and he always tests with it. In the video you can see they trade blows in some cases it's the higher core clocks that win the battle in others it's the 3D vcache. Overall I think you can expect pretty much the same results.
@Goldthius I couldn't find anything either. I'm leaning on the 7900xt but i want to be sure my cpu is not going to affect SAM performance. Its a good assumption with 7700 and 5800x3d. But we see ram does affect fps in a lot of games. It would be a good test for AG to do.
While im happy my 7900xt is godlike i think i would've waited some months for the 7900 gre instead when it came out here in the states. Very impressive what that card is doing for price/performance. I couldnt wait though since i was tempted to get the 7900xt for 710 bucks at the time. Still glad i did
I waited for the price to drop here in the UK and picked one up a couple of weeks ago for £620 with 2 free games and I think it's well worth every penny! A lot of people said it wasn't all that for VR but I've not had any issues at all ultra setting on every game through virtual desktop with an old router ethernet directly on the pc and only the quest 3 on the WiFi works a treat and metro awakening looks awesome maxed out 😉
I bought 7900xt sapphire nitro +, and i must say, it's the best card i ever bought. Great performance, good value, dead silent, and amazing thermals. What a beast.
@@jonsnow6212My idle wattage is about 20 with two monitors. Watching videos and stuff puts it at about 40. I have undervolted and underclocked slightly, though.
hah beat me to it. i just filmed the game footage and was processing the data on the same video but with a 4080 instead of a 4070ti S. The results will be so close to yours that i will return the shadows where i belong. no need for two of nearly the same video. Good stuff btw
Thank you very much for this comprehensive comparison. I went for the 7900XT after 3060Ti. I also went to the latest PRO drivers as my CoD was still crashing with pointers to DirectX in the dump, but I also changed my PC memory and have not seen a crash (touch wood) for a week! Take care and all the best.
I've had the 7900xt for over a year now and I definitely do not regret my purchase considering how good the numbers are for it. I purchased it as a final upgrade for my am4 based build and am hoping it will last me for the rest of the console generation
I was originally going to get the 7900 XT since it was the cheaper one of the two. But managed to get a deal on the 4070 Ti Super for $740 in addition to a 12% cash back using Rakuten . So I technically got it for less than the XT. Just happy I didn’t have to overpay for the Nvidia features since I usually play single player story based games which RT adds to that experience.
@@rich2579 Dell. There was this deal that if u add a cheap accessory with the card it brought the total down to $740. As for Rakuten they go by quarters so I have my money there but it isn’t scheduled to deposit till in 2 weeks.
I went with a 7900XT from a RX 3070 and my god the difference between those 2 is just amazing. Absolutely stellar card for playing at 4k like I do. Super glad the 7900 gre is hitting above its weight and is providing power on par with the raster of a 4070 ti super.
It's not, misleading models were used in this video. 7900GRE is on par with the 4070ti unless you spend an extra $50 for the premium sapphire nitro+ model.
@@anitaremenarova6662 You, are in fact being misleading. The Asrock challenger can achieve even a higher oc than what he ran and it was just on sale for $539
@@MrREAPERsz Obviously its a known fact its stronger than a 7800xt and a 4060, but by how much? with OCing and SAM enabled? It wasn't that well known yet. And It's surprising because its only 550$, so it shouldn't even come close to the performance of the 7900xt and 4070ti S if we're basing it purely off cost
Great comparison video, thank you Fabio! I got the Hellhound 7900 GRE about a week ago. It wasn't exactly cheap in my country (Czechia) but I have to say this particular model is insane. I have never seen such low temperatures 😮
I loved the video, worth the wait. You never disappoint. My 470 TI super gets on average 4 FPS more than the one shown here. It's the tuff oc version. And it sustains around 300-315 watts at max load ray tracing as well. Seems mine just has a much higher power limit, which is enabling more headroom. It does get very toasty though lol. Got to keep an eye on that hotspot. I have both the 7900 XT and the 470 TI super. But I still find myself using the XT more, games truly feel smoother on it. I thought I would use ray tracing but I don't. I loaded up cyberpunk and said "so this is path tracing?" Then I turned it off and preferred high resolution and high FPS lol. You know, depending on the person I feel like ray tracing is oversaturated in argument, and quite frankly extremely overrated. For me personally, I will always choose higher resolution with high frame rate. And to tell you the truth the path tracing in cyberpunk often looked worse than just regular ray tracing. It almost seemed super over the top, like a cartoon. So weird seeing a completely dry street reflecting a colorful light that's really far away from it. The only thing I use the 470 TI super on most is world of Warcraft, It does get a lot more frames per second on there with retracing on. But the XT does very well also, usually nice study 60 frames per second with retracing.
It's toasty tho, gotta keep the side panel off with the otlverclock for it to now get to 95c+ on hotspot 😂 Meanwhile Mac oc 7900xt chilling at 1500rpm 85c max hotspot 63core.
i have been using my 7900xt for a nearly a year now and I have no complaints regarding instability or performance. I had however massive temp issues because of thermal paste pump out. I believe every card with the larger Navi 31 dies will be affected by early pump out because of the die design and high power limits. I am surprised more people are not talking about this as this will cause hotspot temps to rise very quickly. Within a month I went from 80c hotspots to 98c. RMA will only delay the issue. I had to use phase change pads on mine to get it under control for good. Now it's max 85c at max load with 30% fan speed.
I got the 4070Ti Super after like a month of research and deciding. Ive got the Asus TUF one for MSRP price and so far Ive been really happy with it, pathtracing on Cyberpunk looks awesome and 50+fps with dlssQ at 2K is really okay with me, ive really wanted to try the pathtracing and it looks absolutely awesome, hoping it gets used in more games. Yes the 4080S would be better but unfortunately didnt have more budget at the time and I didnt want to want longer since then I would also want the 7800X3D instead of 7600X and so on. I was fan of 7900GRE even before official global release but the curiosity for RT/PT was too strong. Worth it, Ive had the same "Wow" feeling in CP2077 as when ive first stepped out on balcony in Caer Morhen castle in Witcher3 with my back then new 1060GB PC
extremely detailed as usual, thanks alot. already buy RTX 4070 ti super, just need more "justification" lol, so thanks again. the way way lower power consumption on slightly less fps to 7900 xt is my need :)
GRE is getting close in price to what I paid for my 6700xt on the tail end of the last mining boom. But I still get 60fps+ at 1440p ultrawide in most games I play so I think I can hold out..... The extra VRAM would be great for D4 though as it eats all 12GB somehow.
I bought the Sapphire Pulse 7900 xt for 820 euros last black friday and it has performed splendidly, even in ray-traced titles like Avatar. These benchmarks show that I picked well. All AMD builds gain massive performance from SAM + OC. My 7800X3D is a beastly CPU as well.
hi there! I'm considering buying the ASRock version as well, but I have never tried an AMD gpu. have you ever found yourself facing a problem regarding what "some "people say, driver issues? or crashing? Thanks
it seems like you point out more flaws in nvidia than amd, 17:17 you didn't point out the terrible 1% low differences. But at 14:10 you talk about the 1% lows and how it effects gameplay when nvidia is bad.
good eye....amd lack ai cores and rdna3 users have dud ai processor that does nothing at all for fsr3 tech...that is not raising low 1% fps like nvidia cards that use tensor cores for is not only avg fps without ghosting and flickering but also raise actual fps vs amd fake frames by low 1% fps
I also pointed out some better points of the 4070Ti, when I am writing I am not counting how many times I speak of what, lol. Let's not go bananas, results don't lie though
Alright thx for the video very detailed and well oriented video. I have a 6800xt and perhaps planning on selling it and jump to the 7900xt. WIthout changing PSU
I have a question regarding the OC Profile you are using for the 7900 GRE. Is it the same that you showed us in your Overclock guide for that GPU, or is it something more specific just for this video comparison?
My Sapphire 7900xt is blasting, and effortlessly plays AAA games like Control, Ratchet and Clank, and Last of Us at great FPS an cool numbers. $720 and well worth it.
Great content, thank you. I'm still on 5700 XT, getting ~65fps in Helldivers 2 with "optimized" settings. And since it's only new game I play, I think I wait for next generation. PS: Is there possibility to include Helldivers 2 in future tests?
An interesting fact: I just checked one popular online shop and it offers 30 different models of RTX 4070 Ti Super and only 12 of RX 7900 XT. It's pretty much the same in different places. When a casual buyer sees this, it's an incentive to buy the card, which has a wider variety of options. I think it has an impact on sales.
Man... the GRE is such a great, great GPU. TBH the card got very nice after the 24.3.1 update with the MEM OC...you could easily net 5% more FPS out of the MEM OC on top with the regular OC that gives 10% already.
I just bought a 4070 ti super since with my dual monitor setup AMD has just always let me down with crashing and blue screens, they have proven to me multiple tiles over that I cannot trust them. I love your videos man! I am aware plenty of people will hate this comment but keep on scrolling. No one cares as much as you do🤣
@@anitaremenarova6662 I have a midsize case so I got the gigabyte eagle oc. It was like $20 off so basically msrp. It fits well in my case and runs everything 1440p highest settings(not ray tracing) like a dream.
@@AncientGameplays maybe now…my last AMD card was a 5700xt and I constantly had issues which magically went away with a Nvidia card. That was the 3rd or 4th time issues I had with AMD cards could not be replicated by Nvidia cards. For me it has been 100% factual, so I have paid the Nvidia tax a couple times now because I won’t go through that again. I’m glad more people don’t have these problems but they are out there. I am one of them. I used DDU and I used it properly. I used so many different cables and setting, new installs of operating system, more than once…still had issues with AMD that I have never had with Nvidia. I hate their greed, them overcharging for GPU’s and all, but no headaches for me personally. Love the videos M8
The exact 3 cards I'm considering! Seems like the Golden Rabbit has good enough performance for me. I'll do a little more digging to see if there are any caveats with my specific use cases, but I think it's getting pretty certain that it's the one I will get. Helpful video!
The one caveat I would mention from personal experience is if you want to overclock the VRAM on the 7900 GRE. Some models overclock well in this regard, but others don't. For example the Steel Legend 7900 GRE only achieves minimal, stable overclocking, to around or just under 2400 Mhz. Other models can get quite a bit higher than that.
I bought the powercolor 7900xt for £730 in the uk in January and by god what a monster of a card it is. Now to watch the rest of the video…FOR SCIENCE!
Hey Jesus :p Great video my man! Could you please include some simracing titles next time, like ACC, AMS2, assetto or so? It would help a lot of sim racers like myself in here ✊
At what settings did you OC the 7900 XT exactly? 3000/2650 - what mV, fast timings? Power limit? What settings would you prever for performance and which for energy saving?
Muchas gracias por traer estos vídeos a TH-cam porque no hay comparaciones en Internet que incluyan OC + SAM y en tu canal es posible verlo, llevo cerca de un mes siguiendo tu canal y me encanta todo tu contenido y me has ayudado bastante con multitud de vídeos. Por cierto me regalaron por mi cumpleaños el 7900 GRE y con tu canal pude aprender a hacerle OC y estoy súper contento por la potencia que ofrece esta GPU con el precio tan bueno que tiene frente a Nvidia, estoy muy sorprendido por la 7900 GRE. Gracias Fabio por tu ayuda y todos tus vídeos!! 😊👍
I love that you've actually been able to make more videos like this comparing gpus now that the brands started sending you stuff. Thanks AMD and Nvidia for actually supporting a dope content creator! (even if it *did* take a small kick in the rear lol)
I just built another PC, this one I built for me. I paired the Rx 7900 XT with the Ryzen 7 7800x3d. I'm loving it so far. Able to put settings on Ultra, on Epic. Wow.
Hi Fabio, many thanks for this comparison. Using a 7800XT for MSFS VR (Quest) now. Would like having a "little" bit more performance. Thinking about change up to the 7900XT :)
Hmm, have you ever considered showing the cards stock performance with SAM, then the OC version with sam? I wonder how much of an increase is contributed to the OC, or to sam. Any thoughts on this?
Great videos! Nobody covers it like you mate! I knew SAM enabled was good but I didn't actually realise what a big difference it makes in some games! Ryzen is a must if have an AMD GPU
Just bought all the parts for my first gaming cpu. I originally planned to go for the 7900xt but I got the 4070 ti super as I don’t have any friends to play multiplayer titles with, I’ll be doing mainly single player games. I do pay a lot of attention to the visuals so that’s really what swayed me. I still have time to cancel my order since the gpu hasn’t shipped yet, which I have considered doing to get the 4080 super.
I feel like we are in the age of comically big graphics cards right now, seeing you hold those two cards up at the beginning was hysterical, WTF are the manufacturers thinking.
Watch my OC tutorial, and unlike they're saying below (comment that makes no sense), I had the Sapphire pulse before and the results were 3% slower in some cases and 0% difference in others (like lower resolutions or games like AC: Mirage)
Nice video! My 4070 ti superngets 67.1 fps at 4k high cyberpunk instead of 61 in this video. Mine seems to have a much higher power deaw when overclocked. 110power levels. It does lessen that gap quite a bit in some of these results, but still 7900xt is a tough challenge!!
4070ti Super is the winner for me. Low power consumption is important for some countries and it really pays out when you calculate. And makes it a better deal. Also FSR is still bad, not close to DLSS.
I was thinking, it would be interesting to see a video where you compare different ram speeds for both Nvidia, and AMD. For example, what is the actual difference between 2300, 2400,2500,2600 and what is the difference from fast timings 2300 vs 2400 vs 2500 stock default timings. so like 2300 fast, vs 2500 default. Be interesting. I've yet to see this test actually done.
I currently have a ryzen 7 7700x and 4070 but my 4070 is crapping out and im considering the 7900xt. Will my cpu bottle neck a 7900xt? Or should i consider the 7900 gre and wait for amds new GPUs to be released next year. Its for 1440p competitive games
Great video as always It just sad there's no 7900 GRE in stock and how 7900XT priced the same as 4070 ti super in where i live, at same pricing i'll go with nvidia. One thing tho 4080 super vs 4070 ti super have fairly close path tracing performance (still under 60 fps without frame-gen) I tried pt on 4070 ti super and it works perfectly.
@@anitaremenarova6662 yeah according to Owen testing it doesn't have huge difference in Path-tracing, but both still NEEDED the frame-gen which ultimately 4070 ti super offer the same experience as 4080 super.
Fabio my man, I have had some really bad experience with coil whine over my last two amd Gpus. rx 6700 xfx and saphhire pulse rx 7800 xt. I tried your fixes from the other videos,nothing worked. now, I would like to change to team green, do you, or any of you guys on youtbe have some stories to back this up or break the argument? I am thinking of an 4070 super from gigabyte, gaming model.
Hey man, all gpus will have coil whine, especially a certain power draw as they need higher quality capacitors, even nvidia gpus. Higher tiers model usually have less coil whine ans undervolting helps P.s. your psu filter matters a lot too
@@AncientGameplays alright, thank you. I mean I can slap my headset and ignore it. The performance is nice, no eSports games, looking to play 60fps stable and silent. I got the pc on desk next to me and it’s the clicky noise that is annoying. I will look into the psu as well, its new Corsair 750w
I have the 4070 Ti Super, I am pleased with the card. DLSS, DLDSR(especially) and frame generation are all something I always use whenever I can. The extra premium for these features is worth it for me.
mate, stop misinforming people. 7700X is an excellent CPU and no, it is not slower than the 5800x3D lol, it is overall the same (i know as I have both and tested them before), with one games the 7700X having a bit more FPS and in others the 5800X3D being the winner
Im kind of curious too. I got the tuf gaming 7900 xt. I can’t OC the VRAM above theOC preset of 2650 before random instant restarts occurs… I found out that I have Samsung VRAM on my card and they seem to be very poor performers for OC. While the gpi has so far caused no crashes and the highest I’ve tried is 3300 so far.
i have the same TUF, is a monster on oc...this is the normal TUF or OC bro? Finally e good comparison, there is a huge gap before ref 7900xt and top custom like nitro red devil and TUF
actually the gap is quite small in most cases as the reference model is only 30W below in power limit OC vs OC, I know that because I have the tests for both haha
Its sad to see another card being killed because of pricing. Most of the models are priced at $850+, at that point, its just too close to the 7900 XTX. I checked the best sellers list on amazon and newegg. While one 4070 Ti was in the top 50, after that it just disappears. Where as there are the 7900 XT and 7900 XTX appear several times in the list with different models. I hope Nvidia drops the price to $750 to make sure it doesn't compete with 7900 XTX.
It can compete with it just fine, the 7900XTX crumbles when faced with moderate RT onwards and you're still stuck with massive power consumption and horrendous upscaling.
Which of these cards would you pick here! I really want to know!
as someone who cares about 1440p and raster performance i was surprised by how well the 7900 gre did compared to the 300 euro more expensive 4070 ti super. i was under the impression that the ti super was a lot better than the gre but this video totally opened my eyes and made it easier for me to choose a gpu for a pc build, that is if i had the money to buy any of these god damn parts 🤣☠
tbh, after owning a 3080 10gb for 3 years already, I really want to move towards a newer card... but none of these cards is a solid 30% above mine at the moment, although the 7900xt is almost there, but dang in my canadian dollars it's over 1000$. Even reselling my 3080, I would have to shell 500$ or 600$!! Insane! Also, if Nvidia had actually put the right amount of vram on their cards they'd be WAY easier to buy. Ilearnt the lesson with the 10gb: it's NOT enough in many games already.
I'll wait for next year, but given how SLOW both brands release their cards, I will have to wait for june 2025 for a 5070 (Nvidia) or a 8800 (AMD)...
Im currently using 2070 super planning to upgrade to 7900xt
For a real upgrade for me I’m going to hit up the 7900xt , 4070ti super is nice but for the moment I don’t care to much about ray tracing
@@liberteus 8800 will most likely be near a xtx but not matching or better, apparently they're going to focus on better features like rt as well
Got a 7900XT a few weeks ago. Love this card. Excellent FPS on the highest settings at 1440p. Very pleased.
isn't it bit overkill for 1440p in most games!
@@niyazzmoithu20 It's the sweet spot.
@@niyazzmoithu20 Overall, does it matter? I mean, i recently ordered a 4070ti super via the ASUS store, which has a sale on for it, now if i got a 4090 to play at 1440p 120fps, so what if it is overkill? All i care about is smoothness and the temps being as low as possible.
@@niyazzmoithu20 i use a 7900xt for 1440p aswell, i have a 1440p 165hz monitor, and if i can get 165 ish fps, its a perfect choice. who needs 4k if you dont have the monitor to support it ?
@@Sp00n_ wrong. Cause u can have 1080p 165hz and still use 4K instead of anti-aliasing.
This video is such an amazing coincidence! Based on your recent videos on the AMD cards, I decided to go with team red for the first time ever (7900XT from broken 3080). However, I was still a bit worried for driver issues and wasn't really 100% convinced that the 4070TiS would not be the better choice.
Now, after ordering yesterday, your results have absolutely proven my decision to be the right one! That's amazing!
(Playing on 4k165hz on my main screen and got a 4k144hz secondary)
You will find out that the Driver issues that you hear about are very over exaggerated as I did along with the poor performance lies, they throw out there.
@@adammartin4906 But these AMD gpus er totally overkill on powerconsumption, the 7900xt using +100-130 watts more than the 4070 TI SUPER, if you are not the one paying for the electrical bills, sure go ahead, but otherwise, the 4070ti super will be less expensive to play on.
@@HH-hb9uy whaaat lol you mean the 7900 xt is 15 watts more were on earth are you getting 100-130 watts more lmfao. I build servers and PCs for a living and not sure were on earth you got those numbers, but they are completely false because the 4070 TI uses 285watts and the 7900 xt uses 300 watts so this difference once again is 15 watts which is not enough to affect your power bill or mine for that matter lol
Got a Hellhound 7900gre when they 1st launched. Very happy with it, especially with the latest update. It's always nice to see a card punching above its weightclass in these comparisons. When FSR 3.1 releases, things should only get better. Great video, as always.
I just got a 7900xt and love it!
GRE card was a very good choice for comparison
Boys are not sleeping, boys are monitoring the situation in... GPU comparisons
hahaha, thanks for always supporting the channel!
7900gre is crazy value
indeed
I can finally comfortably get into 4k gaming with my GRE.
Rabbit go brrr 🐇
Still regret not getting one but my 7800xt will be enough for me for a while. I’m making the jump to 1440p soon and can’t wait.
@@MrREAPERszI wouldn't say "comfortably" but 60FPS for 4K high is pretty insane on the sapphire nitro+ model for just $599
I think that showing stock value with just SAM active could be of great use
People seem to forget what an impact SAM has on performance.
Will SAM impact vary depending on CPU? Eg i have a 5800x3d will i expect to see same fps as those shown in the video?
Or even from ddr4(which I'm still on) to ddr5
@@abutalsafuba2179 That is a very good question. Which to the first part I can't seem to find the answer to. I don't see videos comparing CPU's with and without SAM to see the gain. That being said there are enough videos comparing the 7700x vs 5800X3D and they are not far off. @ancientGameplays also has a video with these two and he always tests with it. In the video you can see they trade blows in some cases it's the higher core clocks that win the battle in others it's the 3D vcache. Overall I think you can expect pretty much the same results.
@Goldthius I couldn't find anything either. I'm leaning on the 7900xt but i want to be sure my cpu is not going to affect SAM performance. Its a good assumption with 7700 and 5800x3d. But we see ram does affect fps in a lot of games. It would be a good test for AG to do.
For some reason SAM causes stutters for me i i dont know why tho
While im happy my 7900xt is godlike i think i would've waited some months for the 7900 gre instead when it came out here in the states. Very impressive what that card is doing for price/performance. I couldnt wait though since i was tempted to get the 7900xt for 710 bucks at the time. Still glad i did
So many people speak highly of the 7900 xt it makes me wonder if it's going to end up the most popular GPU of 2024 when summer rolls in...
I waited for the price to drop here in the UK and picked one up a couple of weeks ago for £620 with 2 free games and I think it's well worth every penny! A lot of people said it wasn't all that for VR but I've not had any issues at all ultra setting on every game through virtual desktop with an old router ethernet directly on the pc and only the quest 3 on the WiFi works a treat and metro awakening looks awesome maxed out 😉
I bought 7900xt sapphire nitro +, and i must say, it's the best card i ever bought. Great performance, good value, dead silent, and amazing thermals. What a beast.
what are your power draws when idle, watching video and multi monitor if you have?
@@jonsnow6212My idle wattage is about 20 with two monitors. Watching videos and stuff puts it at about 40.
I have undervolted and underclocked slightly, though.
@@daddymarmalade5499 That wouldn't affect the card when idle though. Good choice btw.
Been looking for a video like this
Glad I can help
hah beat me to it. i just filmed the game footage and was processing the data on the same video but with a 4080 instead of a 4070ti S. The results will be so close to yours that i will return the shadows where i belong. no need for two of nearly the same video.
Good stuff btw
Nah haha, you do you mate!
Thank you very much for this comprehensive comparison. I went for the 7900XT after 3060Ti. I also went to the latest PRO drivers as my CoD was still crashing with pointers to DirectX in the dump, but I also changed my PC memory and have not seen a crash (touch wood) for a week! Take care and all the best.
You probably used DDU to uninstall the Nvidia drivers, but if you still have issues, you could try reinstalling DirectX through Microsoft.. 🤷♂️
I've had the 7900xt for over a year now and I definitely do not regret my purchase considering how good the numbers are for it. I purchased it as a final upgrade for my am4 based build and am hoping it will last me for the rest of the console generation
I was originally going to get the 7900 XT since it was the cheaper one of the two. But managed to get a deal on the 4070 Ti Super for $740 in addition to a 12% cash back using Rakuten . So I technically got it for less than the XT. Just happy I didn’t have to overpay for the Nvidia features since I usually play single player story based games which RT adds to that experience.
Always go for the deal, both great cards! Congratulations on your purchase 👊
@@Eliminater25 thanks man
Damn which website did you get 12% back with rakuten?
@@rich2579 Dell. There was this deal that if u add a cheap accessory with the card it brought the total down to $740. As for Rakuten they go by quarters so I have my money there but it isn’t scheduled to deposit till in 2 weeks.
I went with a 7900XT from a RX 3070 and my god the difference between those 2 is just amazing. Absolutely stellar card for playing at 4k like I do. Super glad the 7900 gre is hitting above its weight and is providing power on par with the raster of a 4070 ti super.
It's not, misleading models were used in this video. 7900GRE is on par with the 4070ti unless you spend an extra $50 for the premium sapphire nitro+ model.
@@anitaremenarova6662you can get the same result with Gigabyte OC variant
@@anitaremenarova6662 the sapphire has better cooling but doesnt achieve better oc... most 7900 gre can achieve 20gb in the memory....
@@anitaremenarova6662 can get the same performance with Asrock Challenger 7900GRE which was just on sale for $539.
@@anitaremenarova6662 You, are in fact being misleading. The Asrock challenger can achieve even a higher oc than what he ran and it was just on sale for $539
Another great comparison vid, thanks Fabio!
Thanks my friend!
This is absolutely insane. I never expected the 7900 GRE to be this competitive with the 7900xt and 4070ti S
True, same here
Why not? It's stronger than the 7800xt and the 4060.
@@MrREAPERsz Obviously its a known fact its stronger than a 7800xt and a 4060, but by how much? with OCing and SAM enabled? It wasn't that well known yet.
And It's surprising because its only 550$, so it shouldn't even come close to the performance of the 7900xt and 4070ti S if we're basing it purely off cost
Used your code got windows11 pro for cheap! Glad I could help support your brother! Amazing content as always 💪
Thank you very much! Big hug 💪
Great comparison video, thank you Fabio! I got the Hellhound 7900 GRE about a week ago. It wasn't exactly cheap in my country (Czechia) but I have to say this particular model is insane. I have never seen such low temperatures 😮
Thank you flr watching and hellhound 7900xts are great indeed
I loved the video, worth the wait. You never disappoint.
My 470 TI super gets on average 4 FPS more than the one shown here. It's the tuff oc version.
And it sustains around 300-315 watts at max load ray tracing as well.
Seems mine just has a much higher power limit, which is enabling more headroom.
It does get very toasty though lol.
Got to keep an eye on that hotspot.
I have both the 7900 XT and the 470 TI super. But I still find myself using the XT more, games truly feel smoother on it.
I thought I would use ray tracing but I don't. I loaded up cyberpunk and said "so this is path tracing?"
Then I turned it off and preferred high resolution and high FPS lol.
You know, depending on the person I feel like ray tracing is oversaturated in argument, and quite frankly extremely overrated.
For me personally, I will always choose higher resolution with high frame rate.
And to tell you the truth the path tracing in cyberpunk often looked worse than just regular ray tracing.
It almost seemed super over the top, like a cartoon.
So weird seeing a completely dry street reflecting a colorful light that's really far away from it.
The only thing I use the 470 TI super on most is world of Warcraft, It does get a lot more frames per second on there with retracing on. But the XT does very well also, usually nice study 60 frames per second with retracing.
Yes, your card has higher power limits, this one usually goes to 270w max
It's toasty tho, gotta keep the side panel off with the otlverclock for it to now get to 95c+ on hotspot 😂
Meanwhile Mac oc 7900xt chilling at 1500rpm 85c max hotspot 63core.
@@TheRandomDude-qy1ev my 7900gre never hit over 80c yet so I think I got lucky. 🤣
Cannot wait for the 9000 series CPUs! Thank you for the content!
Thank you as well!
i have been using my 7900xt for a nearly a year now and I have no complaints regarding instability or performance. I had however massive temp issues because of thermal paste pump out. I believe every card with the larger Navi 31 dies will be affected by early pump out because of the die design and high power limits. I am surprised more people are not talking about this as this will cause hotspot temps to rise very quickly. Within a month I went from 80c hotspots to 98c. RMA will only delay the issue. I had to use phase change pads on mine to get it under control for good. Now it's max 85c at max load with 30% fan speed.
I got the 4070Ti Super after like a month of research and deciding. Ive got the Asus TUF one for MSRP price and so far Ive been really happy with it, pathtracing on Cyberpunk looks awesome and 50+fps with dlssQ at 2K is really okay with me, ive really wanted to try the pathtracing and it looks absolutely awesome, hoping it gets used in more games. Yes the 4080S would be better but unfortunately didnt have more budget at the time and I didnt want to want longer since then I would also want the 7800X3D instead of 7600X and so on. I was fan of 7900GRE even before official global release but the curiosity for RT/PT was too strong. Worth it, Ive had the same "Wow" feeling in CP2077 as when ive first stepped out on balcony in Caer Morhen castle in Witcher3 with my back then new 1060GB PC
extremely detailed as usual, thanks alot. already buy RTX 4070 ti super, just need more "justification" lol, so thanks again. the way way lower power consumption on slightly less fps to 7900 xt is my need :)
Thanks for watching
8:53 Heart warming moments in your benchmarks. Greetings from Hungary!
Greetings 💪
Your intro memes are awesome 👍😎
Great in depth comparison vid 👏
14:53 Thank you for including native benchmarks as well!
Already got it 7900.GRE Saphire Nitro+,,, Good Card For Good value👍
This is the Video I've been waiting for!
GRE is getting close in price to what I paid for my 6700xt on the tail end of the last mining boom. But I still get 60fps+ at 1440p ultrawide in most games I play so I think I can hold out..... The extra VRAM would be great for D4 though as it eats all 12GB somehow.
I bought the Sapphire Pulse 7900 xt for 820 euros last black friday and it has performed splendidly, even in ray-traced titles like Avatar.
These benchmarks show that I picked well. All AMD builds gain massive performance from SAM + OC. My 7800X3D is a beastly CPU as well.
Great build there
Love my Asrock 7900XT. Almost a year, no regrets
Great!
hi there! I'm considering buying the ASRock version as well, but I have never tried an AMD gpu.
have you ever found yourself facing a problem regarding what "some "people say, driver issues? or crashing? Thanks
it seems like you point out more flaws in nvidia than amd, 17:17 you didn't point out the terrible 1% low differences. But at 14:10 you talk about the 1% lows and how it effects gameplay when nvidia is bad.
good eye....amd lack ai cores and rdna3 users have dud ai processor that does nothing at all for fsr3 tech...that is not raising low 1% fps like nvidia cards that use tensor cores for is not only avg fps without ghosting and flickering but also raise actual fps vs amd fake frames by low 1% fps
God this video is so biased I wanted to scream lol
I also pointed out some better points of the 4070Ti, when I am writing I am not counting how many times I speak of what, lol. Let's not go bananas, results don't lie though
Biased because...? Maybe because I show factual results with a very comprehensive final thoughts? Uh, sure
Alright thx for the video very detailed and well oriented video. I have a 6800xt and perhaps planning on selling it and jump to the 7900xt. WIthout changing PSU
Thanks as well!
Thank you; great benchmark!
Thanks!
I have a question regarding the OC Profile you are using for the 7900 GRE. Is it the same that you showed us in your Overclock guide for that GPU, or is it something more specific just for this video comparison?
It is exactly what I showed and stated yes
My Sapphire 7900xt is blasting, and effortlessly plays AAA games like Control, Ratchet and Clank, and Last of Us at great FPS an cool numbers. $720 and well worth it.
Would be interested to see if these gains are maintained in a 7800x3d given the Nvidia driver suite is more CPU intensive
Great content, thank you. I'm still on 5700 XT, getting ~65fps in Helldivers 2 with "optimized" settings. And since it's only new game I play, I think I wait for next generation.
PS: Is there possibility to include Helldivers 2 in future tests?
Impossible to test accurately I believe
Helldivers is more CPU intensive than anything. Props that you can play such a fast-paced shooter with just 60FPS.
An interesting fact: I just checked one popular online shop and it offers 30 different models of RTX 4070 Ti Super and only 12 of RX 7900 XT. It's pretty much the same in different places. When a casual buyer sees this, it's an incentive to buy the card, which has a wider variety of options. I think it has an impact on sales.
That's normal as nvidia has more market share and more samples
Man... the GRE is such a great, great GPU. TBH the card got very nice after the 24.3.1 update with the MEM OC...you could easily net 5% more FPS out of the MEM OC on top with the regular OC that gives 10% already.
true, the 7800XT and 7900 GRE are the best price/perf cards right now
I just bought a 4070 ti super since with my dual monitor setup AMD has just always let me down with crashing and blue screens, they have proven to me multiple tiles over that I cannot trust them. I love your videos man!
I am aware plenty of people will hate this comment but keep on scrolling. No one cares as much as you do🤣
Who would, 4070tiS is an excellent card. Which model did you end up choosing?
@@anitaremenarova6662 just go with PNY XLR8 Verto it has great cooling and noise.
@@anitaremenarova6662 I have a midsize case so I got the gigabyte eagle oc. It was like $20 off so basically msrp. It fits well in my case and runs everything 1440p highest settings(not ray tracing) like a dream.
Not hate at all, that's just not factual, at most ir could draw mote power at idle
@@AncientGameplays maybe now…my last AMD card was a 5700xt and I constantly had issues which magically went away with a Nvidia card. That was the 3rd or 4th time issues I had with AMD cards could not be replicated by Nvidia cards. For me it has been 100% factual, so I have paid the Nvidia tax a couple times now because I won’t go through that again. I’m glad more people don’t have these problems but they are out there. I am one of them. I used DDU and I used it properly. I used so many different cables and setting, new installs of operating system, more than once…still had issues with AMD that I have never had with Nvidia. I hate their greed, them overcharging for GPU’s and all, but no headaches for me personally.
Love the videos M8
The exact 3 cards I'm considering! Seems like the Golden Rabbit has good enough performance for me. I'll do a little more digging to see if there are any caveats with my specific use cases, but I think it's getting pretty certain that it's the one I will get. Helpful video!
Glad to help
The one caveat I would mention from personal experience is if you want to overclock the VRAM on the 7900 GRE. Some models overclock well in this regard, but others don't. For example the Steel Legend 7900 GRE only achieves minimal, stable overclocking, to around or just under 2400 Mhz. Other models can get quite a bit higher than that.
Got 4070 Ti Super today, best purchase i ever had, love the Ray Tracing performance
Good video and love the intro.
Thanks haha
I bought the powercolor 7900xt for £730 in the uk in January and by god what a monster of a card it is. Now to watch the rest of the video…FOR SCIENCE!
For science! Haha
Hey Jesus :p
Great video my man! Could you please include some simracing titles next time, like ACC, AMS2, assetto or so?
It would help a lot of sim racers like myself in here ✊
I can try 💪
@@AncientGameplays thx a lot man! This channel is my Go to benchmark to get components for my computer :p keep up the good work mate :p
At what settings did you OC the 7900 XT exactly? 3000/2650 - what mV, fast timings? Power limit? What settings would you prever for performance and which for energy saving?
Will do that video tomorrow 💪
7900 GRE is the go-to, no doubts there. Price/Performance ratio is king!
Muchas gracias por traer estos vídeos a TH-cam porque no hay comparaciones en Internet que incluyan OC + SAM y en tu canal es posible verlo, llevo cerca de un mes siguiendo tu canal y me encanta todo tu contenido y me has ayudado bastante con multitud de vídeos. Por cierto me regalaron por mi cumpleaños el 7900 GRE y con tu canal pude aprender a hacerle OC y estoy súper contento por la potencia que ofrece esta GPU con el precio tan bueno que tiene frente a Nvidia, estoy muy sorprendido por la 7900 GRE. Gracias Fabio por tu ayuda y todos tus vídeos!! 😊👍
Thanks for watching as well!
I love that you've actually been able to make more videos like this comparing gpus now that the brands started sending you stuff. Thanks AMD and Nvidia for actually supporting a dope content creator! (even if it *did* take a small kick in the rear lol)
Thank you for always supporting as well
thanks fabio my favorite, i hope to see more videos but the next one should be about monitors specifically ultrawide ones..
I just built another PC, this one I built for me. I paired the Rx 7900 XT with the Ryzen 7 7800x3d. I'm loving it so far. Able to put settings on Ultra, on Epic. Wow.
Great!
Very good video bro keep it up tnx
Hi Fabio, many thanks for this comparison. Using a 7800XT for MSFS VR (Quest) now. Would like having a "little" bit more performance. Thinking about change up to the 7900XT :)
I would go to the XTX directly for a real upgrade 💪💪
Finally!
Thank you very much)
Thank you as well
I just love my 7900 GRE, 95% of the performance (sometimes more) of a 4070 ti super with an OC for 45% cheaper (£530 vs cheapest £770)
Love your charts and video style, keep it up 👍
Thanks!
Your videos are very helpful, keep it up mate!
Thank you 💪
Hmm, have you ever considered showing the cards stock performance with SAM, then the OC version with sam?
I wonder how much of an increase is contributed to the OC, or to sam.
Any thoughts on this?
Yes, next tests will be like that
Hi, nice comparison. i've got the 7900xt but it has coil whine, any suggestion on how to fix it? thank you
you can use my tutorial for the 7900 XT
Great videos! Nobody covers it like you mate!
I knew SAM enabled was good but I didn't actually realise what a big difference it makes in some games!
Ryzen is a must if have an AMD GPU
Just bought all the parts for my first gaming cpu. I originally planned to go for the 7900xt but I got the 4070 ti super as I don’t have any friends to play multiplayer titles with, I’ll be doing mainly single player games. I do pay a lot of attention to the visuals so that’s really what swayed me. I still have time to cancel my order since the gpu hasn’t shipped yet, which I have considered doing to get the 4080 super.
I feel like we are in the age of comically big graphics cards right now, seeing you hold those two cards up at the beginning was hysterical, WTF are the manufacturers thinking.
The msi one is okayish, but the asus one is massive
Thank you Brother for keeping us all informed we appreciate you 🙏
Thank you as well
What overclock settings are you using? Getting a 7900 GRE for my brother and haven't overclocked much, so would be awesome to have a reference point!
He's using the sapphire nitro+ model, if you buy any other one your overclocking results will be much poorer.
@@anitaremenarova6662 Bummer, I managed to snag a sapphire pure for the aesthetics so hopefully I can get at least halfway there
@@peteryoung6794That's still decent, as long as you stick to 1440p or ultrawide it should still deliver great results!
Watch my OC tutorial, and unlike they're saying below (comment that makes no sense), I had the Sapphire pulse before and the results were 3% slower in some cases and 0% difference in others (like lower resolutions or games like AC: Mirage)
@@anitaremenarova6662 WOW, your just spreading bullshit all over this place!
Great video, for real!! I need a video of 7900xt’s overclock, the increase is amazing!!!
As many people have asked, I will start making it tomorrow
@@AncientGameplays oh, really thank you!
which model of XT and GRE did you use in this video?
it is literally showing the thumbnail
Nice video!
My 4070 ti superngets 67.1 fps at 4k high cyberpunk instead of 61 in this video.
Mine seems to have a much higher power deaw when overclocked. 110power levels.
It does lessen that gap quite a bit in some of these results, but still 7900xt is a tough challenge!!
Yeah, some models have higher power draw indeed
4070ti Super is the winner for me. Low power consumption is important for some countries and it really pays out when you calculate. And makes it a better deal.
Also FSR is still bad, not close to DLSS.
As stated fsr is not that bad apart from some sketchy titles, and 3.1 is coming very soon, but yes
7900gre maxed oc as good as 4070 ti super oc
very happy with my gre steel legend considering it was only £520. No issues at all so far
I was thinking, it would be interesting to see a video where you compare different ram speeds for both
Nvidia, and AMD.
For example, what is the actual difference between 2300, 2400,2500,2600
and what is the difference from fast timings 2300 vs 2400 vs 2500 stock default timings.
so like 2300 fast, vs 2500 default. Be interesting.
I've yet to see this test actually done.
Love my 4070 Ti Super. It’s the best performance to price option for Nvidia these days if you want 16 GB VRAM.
hello bro! i am from Brazil thank for your channel.
I currently have a ryzen 7 7700x and 4070 but my 4070 is crapping out and im considering the 7900xt. Will my cpu bottle neck a 7900xt? Or should i consider the 7900 gre and wait for amds new GPUs to be released next year. Its for 1440p competitive games
You'll be fine 💪💪
faz um vídeo fazendo oc+undervolt ou só oc na 7900xt? tenho ela e queria fazer, vc só tem o vídeo do oc na GRE, obrigado e acompanho desde sempre!
Parece que vou ter de fazer mesmo!
Whoa Thats a huge 7900 xt lol! Great video bro as always perfection!
huge indeed haha
Great video as always
It just sad there's no 7900 GRE in stock and how 7900XT priced the same as 4070 ti super in where i live, at same pricing i'll go with nvidia.
One thing tho 4080 super vs 4070 ti super have fairly close path tracing performance (still under 60 fps without frame-gen) I tried pt on 4070 ti super and it works perfectly.
It's not under 60FPS, just for 4K but that is an unsustainable resolution without the 4090 anyways.
@@anitaremenarova6662 yeah according to Owen testing it doesn't have huge difference in Path-tracing, but both still NEEDED the frame-gen which ultimately 4070 ti super offer the same experience as 4080 super.
there are lots of GRE stock, just not maybe where you live haha
I was looking to see if made a comparison for the 7900gre and XT, thanks a lot.
Fabio my man, I have had some really bad experience with coil whine over my last two amd Gpus. rx 6700 xfx and saphhire pulse rx 7800 xt. I tried your fixes from the other videos,nothing worked. now, I would like to change to team green, do you, or any of you guys on youtbe have some stories to back this up or break the argument? I am thinking of an 4070 super from gigabyte, gaming model.
Hey man, all gpus will have coil whine, especially a certain power draw as they need higher quality capacitors, even nvidia gpus. Higher tiers model usually have less coil whine ans undervolting helps
P.s. your psu filter matters a lot too
@@AncientGameplays alright, thank you. I mean I can slap my headset and ignore it. The performance is nice, no eSports games, looking to play 60fps stable and silent. I got the pc on desk next to me and it’s the clicky noise that is annoying. I will look into the psu as well, its new Corsair 750w
I have the 4070 Ti Super, I am pleased with the card. DLSS, DLDSR(especially) and frame generation are all something I always use whenever I can. The extra premium for these features is worth it for me.
Well, amd does still need to catch up there
Curious if you would observe any noticable difference using 7800x3d vs the 7700x
It's a massive difference, 7700x is worse than 5800x3d.
only at 1080P in some specific games (not all)
mate, stop misinforming people. 7700X is an excellent CPU and no, it is not slower than the 5800x3D lol, it is overall the same (i know as I have both and tested them before), with one games the 7700X having a bit more FPS and in others the 5800X3D being the winner
I did 3-4 month of reasearch and decided to get the 7900XT and 6 months later I'm very happy I switched from Nvidia.
Glad to hear 💪
So here in the netherlands i can get a RX 7900 XT For 709,- And a 4070TI Super for 865,- What should i do
Whatch the video to begin with
vc pensa em tentar dnv trazer novidades de drives da NVidia, assim como na Intel, seria interessante saber oq esta por vir no futuro das marcas
Sim, quando sair a nova app inteiramente eu irei fazer um video claro
Hi Fabio, is there any video guide link or detailed settings to the 3000/2650 OC for your 7900xt shown in the video?
Im kind of curious too. I got the tuf gaming 7900 xt. I can’t OC the VRAM above theOC preset of 2650 before random instant restarts occurs… I found out that I have Samsung VRAM on my card and they seem to be very poor performers for OC. While the gpi has so far caused no crashes and the highest I’ve tried is 3300 so far.
im still happy with my 7900xt
is SAM activated by default or do i need to activate it ? 🤔
Usually it is on by default, you can see it on the performance tab of amd software
Thank you! ❤
Guys...what choose 7900gre giga gaming or 7900gre sapphire pure?same price
Pure, easy
CS2
Would the 4070ti super not outperform the 7900xt by far? Also with reflex technology?
Don't know, didn't test CS2 GPU wise
i have the same TUF, is a monster on oc...this is the normal TUF or OC bro? Finally e good comparison, there is a huge gap before ref 7900xt and top custom like nitro red devil and TUF
actually the gap is quite small in most cases as the reference model is only 30W below in power limit OC vs OC, I know that because I have the tests for both haha
Its sad to see another card being killed because of pricing. Most of the models are priced at $850+, at that point, its just too close to the 7900 XTX. I checked the best sellers list on amazon and newegg. While one 4070 Ti was in the top 50, after that it just disappears. Where as there are the 7900 XT and 7900 XTX appear several times in the list with different models. I hope Nvidia drops the price to $750 to make sure it doesn't compete with 7900 XTX.
It can compete with it just fine, the 7900XTX crumbles when faced with moderate RT onwards and you're still stuck with massive power consumption and horrendous upscaling.
@@anitaremenarova6662
I can see your replies in different threads, parroting here and there for ngreedia
Hello great video! One question tho! I have i5 13500 . Is it good enough to pair with rx 7900 xt(Games wise only)?
You should be okay in most cases. Just don't get crappy ram
@@AncientGameplays I have DDR4 3600 Kingston Fury One cl18
I have a Rx 7900xtx nitro+ shapirre could you compare it with the Rtx 4090?
I could, but I don't have the 4090
That tuff card looks massive. is it bigger than the Nitro+ xtx?
Yup, quite bigger
Got a brandnew 7900gre oc 475$ in switzerland
Good deal, but dont get xfx, usually lower power limits
@@AncientGameplays No I got a sapphire pulse and could increase the power limit by 15%
@@AncientGameplays