What you see when you’re aiming a compound bow
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 19 มิ.ย. 2018
- Compound bows make use magnified sights to allow archers to be more precise. Steve Anderson shows what he sees when he’s sighting in on target. More archery at www.worldarchery.org and www.archery.tv
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Interesting contrast between the modern tech and the ancient weapon.
This is the clearest and most visual explanation I’ve seen so far, fantastic job!
yeah i want go and use a bow for fun cus i want to better my aiming cus aim is what i need to work on, in a normal life like with video games im gonna try some other things then a bow cus im not waiting to better my aim till i get my hands on a bow
@@Bragemaster Well, this isn't really "aiming". This is an amazing demonstration of peep to sight alignment. ACTUAL aiming is a mental focus thing.
I really like the last part with the arrow slowed down hitting the target .
That is good editing choice .
This like so much that is being produced for world archery is good story telling .
Short stories well edited n produced .
Cheers thks for this
0:06 is the first time in my life that I see them shooting from this camera angle. Jeez these camera guys are so stagnant!
I know! This is the case for many sports. The camera work has gotten old and tired. It certainly hasn’t kept up with technology!
that is so cool to have optics or sights on a bow like that
Thank you that was tremendously helpful👍😀
That’s really cool! Thxs for giving us an idea
wow!! that is tremendously interesting! Thank you so much for the insight!
Nice.
Good explanation.
Do you also adjust the bow when there's a lot of wind?
Great explanation. Thank You !!!!
I know Mr. Anderson has a LONG history in this sport, but this isn't "aiming" per se. This is PROPER sight and peep alignment and is a phenomenal demonstration of such. Actual aiming is purely a mental focus thing and is something we learn from the first time we point at an object as a child. With archery, we learn to refine that lesson to hit what we perceive as a very small spot at distance.
good shot
Good job Steve
Not just Steve but good job to who was it Fran and Diane his too lovely assistants
Thank you very interesting i always thought you just used the lens with the dot
Thank you for the video. I've been doing it wrong for 4 years. I used to put the peep sight in my mouth.
Don't feel to silly, I've been using the arrows to shot the bow down range, I had to give archery up because I couldn't afford to keep replacing my bow's.
Very very thanks
Finally a good explanation
....I've been keepin my eye away from that "peep" sight, thinking I'd lose it if the string snapped lol!
Someone jus handed me a bow n said good luck...literally.
There are plenty of pullies, gizmos n gadgets all over the thing. All I wanna do is shoot targets n not lose my eye while I'm at it ;p
~runs off to try again
I do archery but I like barebow. Barebow only needs 20 yards or so to be challenging.
Swerved my. Question. Thanks
Thanks
Bunch of Robin Hood’s in the comment section. I’m sure you are all champion archers.
I see on other archery tutor sites that the recommendation is that you can see the full scope ring through the peep? This clip doesn't appear to endorse that??
How your peep and scope rings align is entirely up to you and what you are comfortable with. I prefer to see the inside circle of my scope align with my peep, that way I don't have to try and have a consistent ring of light around my housing, if that makes sense,
I wish my peep looked that big LOL. Peep, scope, aim point reticle or pins all centered over target, with consistent form and most importantly the follow through will get it there, unless a gust of wind has any say
Is it same to aiming with a red dot sight on a rifle? I have experience with firearms and curious about getting into archery. Any tips and tricks for that? Thanks.
This isn't "aiming" this is proper sight/peep alignment to ensure the arrow is going to go where you ARE aiming. Aiming is mental and focus thing in archery.
you could still put a camera in the same place of your eye and show us what it actually is, but thats explained.
This is an "ah ha" moment.
I think it's a shame that you didn't go into the complications of keeping both eyes open, either seeing a double image of the target, or a double image of the sight, depending on which one you focus on.
As someone who shoots with both eyes open, I find my left eye kind of "unfocuses" while aiming. My dominant eye takes over fully.
I don't even know why i am watching this, i been doing archery for 4 years lol
yeah, me either man...your basically a certified pro now.
@@packpride23 4 years isnt alot lol
@dominic B yes, I know. I am trolling you and being sarcastic.
The way you say it, you make it sound like you are above watching this video.
@@packpride23 Tell me what tone i am saying it in haha, trust me my tone is different than what you think it is.
So the circles have to be aligned 😮 i was just putting the pinn on the targey 😢
I keep schooting left even if i set my scope better and actualy perfect but it always is left and my bubble is always good so does annyone know what i can do (also my outlining is good my coach said)
Make sure your arrow rest is set up properly. Check the vanes on your arrows to see if there's any marks that would indicate the arrow rest is making contact with yor fletchings. If necessary, go back to setting up your centre shot. Hope that helps.
@@CountBasie56 i already fixed it but thanks
and thats why robin hood is just legend
Wouldnt they go a little up bcuz the scope is higher than where they are shooting from and also the arrow can go down while mid air
Could someone explain how the sights are accurate if the sight itself are above the arrow? I’ve tried looking it up but i’m pretty sure I’m wording it wrong because I can’t get any results lol. Very interested on how it works though, can’t figure it out.
the sight is set at a certain distance. if you shoot any closer your arrow will hit high and any further it will hit low. the dot is set to where the arrow will be within its arc at this set distance
It's just like a rifle scope it's way above the bullet. You sight in at 20yards make all the adjustments to get your 20y. Then you moved the sight down According to your sight tape for longer yardage
It's called "archery" for a reason. The arrow follows a trajectory, an arc between you and the target. In order to achieve consistent shooting form, your anchor point is below your eye, or your line of sight. The arrow crosses that line of sight twice, once on the way TOO the target and once again farther down range. Let's say your arrow crosses your line of sight at 8 yards, and comes back down at 70 yards. If you are shooting at 20 yards, your sight needs to be ABOVE your normal line of sight to lower the bow arm to allow the arrow to impact where you want it. If you are shooting at 100 yards, you need to lower the sight in order for the impact point to come UP into the target. I know this is clear as mud without a drawing, but I hope it helps.
Can't wait to move to compound from recurve
What bow is that I'm looking for shoot through risers.
That particular one is a Hoyt. But PSE and Darton Archery both make something similar. With modern equipment, there is minimal benefit to that system.
When you aiming with a bow does time slow down for you ?
LOL, no. But sometimes it can feel like it!!
dang! I always thought that the FRONT sight ring should be in the inside of the PEEP hole, but it's the other way around. FML LOL
In a perfect world, the rings should align properly. HOW that alignment looks to YOU is up to you.
So. its similar to the Sight system on the M1 Garand right?
It took me a minute to figure out what you were talking about. The rear sight is similar, sure. The front sight isn't.
I assume you have a clarifier lens in your peep?.
So it seems to me that compound aiming is harder than recurve? What do you think people?
It's not harder, per se, but it IS more complicated.
Too bad they don’t make scopes like this for recurve.
@AWAY no they arent, who told you that?
They do
They do. But rules for use in competition prevent them from being used.
what if you don't have peep sight =D
It's in the rules for Compound target archery so why not? They make a huge difference to accuracy, not unlike the rear sight of a gun
I learned that look through your Peepsight and do not move
Didn’t mention the float and shaking while aiming either
Yes he did. What do you think all those "little movements" are. However, at higher levels, we learn to ignore that float. Mostly because we aren't focusing on the pin, we are focusing on the target.
Ok. So what do we know that we didn’t?
Does the string of the bow have to cut through the centre of the target? Does the string of the bow not get in the way of the sighting process? Would a transparent bow string be a good idea?
For compound shooters, we use a peep sight, that little dot in front of Steve's eye in the video. It has a hole through it to look through.
His peep sight was imbedded in the string so he looks right through it.
your @ power of 5 ?
Am I underestimating it or does it look simple and not that hard to aim..?
It is difficult to aim. Your head must align directly behind the peep each time. It is bound within the string but has no cable to direct it into the same orientation each time. Having magnification makes every slight move more apparent. It’s very much like shooting a rifle without a rest or tripod, with the added distraction of having all your upper body flexed and tense holding back the draw weight of the string.
Explaination is not clear... Will i see the two girls when I'm aiming too?
Yes, shoot them
Um... Where's the compensation for gravity and wind speed?
For gravity you can dial that into your sight because that is a constant. Windspeed you usually dont have to ajust for unless it is super windy then you just guess.
I see my Neighbor
Love the tech but personally it's too much. Archery is meant to train an archer to learn to balance and go off instinct. Doesn't feel like a sport when you have a liquid bubble level machine like what
I know there's an incredibly low chance that I'll get a response to this comment seeing is how the video is so old but I would love to know what kind of setup you're using what kind of stabilizer what kind of bow what kind of site and what kind of release thank you
Good try but this doesnt show good enough to aligning the peep with fron sight, peep is too smalla or too far from camera.
There-in lies the rub! In other words getting all three points lined up on center of target face ( the peep, the dot on the lense and target center) and having the release activate all at the same time. Many factors prevent ANYONE from holding the bow perfectly still ( wind and muscles) on the center of the target. The dot will "float" around in various patterns usually and timing the release activation to coordinate with the dot in the middle of the target is where practice is invaluable. Your brain must learn all this and it takes thousands of shots to keep this reinforced in your brain. There is no MUSCLE MEMORY as muscles DO NOT HAVE MEMORY CAPACITY. You're training your brain to send signals to the nerve system in the muscles is why we need to continually practice. IMO
1000% wrong. You never want to "time" your shots like that. You have a float because you have a pulse. The trick is, once you have everything aligned, to shift your focus off your pin and onto the middle of the target. Once there, you want to "push" the bow towards the target. That will reduce your float to a very minimal amount. Once things settle down, then you work on pulling through your release.
I'm surprised magnification is legal.
Seems a bit like cheating to have such an accurate and complex aiming system. Should have an event with no scopes at all old school style, really check out the men from the boys.
Met a lady at a traditional archery shoot who'd competed at the Commonwealth Games with recurve bows. She recounted that once she was handed a compound bow, with all the bells and whistles, and she fired it three times, said that she could feel she did things differently each time, but the arrows went to the same spot on the target. Didn't like that, and went back to her basic recurve bow for the challenge. Traditional bows are cheaper (or can be made by the user), and don't 'go out of date' :)
You could probably out shoot all of them with that equipment right? You just don't want to make a living shooting a bow.
Lmfao tell me you have never shot a bow without telling me you have never shot a bow.
I love trad. But a compound bow for me is a more responsible way to hunt. Not that there aren't great trad hunters. I'm just not one. I prefer bare bow traditional horse bow or recurve for target. When you hit the spot you realy deserve the win. ❤
Recurves and compounds seems like cheating to me.
Come on over to hatchet hunting and really separate the boys from the real men.
If you can’t hit a deer with a throwing hatchet you really should stay home.
Bear Archery>Hoyt and Mathews Archery
Bear has long been oriented on hunting. Hoyt and Mathews provide support for target archery and tournaments and I doubt you will see any Bear bows in the (current) competitive videos other than bare bow. Hunting videos and in the field, yes. I say that as a life-long Bear bow owner.
to mordern stuff.. let a robot . do does with so technique bows.. i love the oldschool archery
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Too each there own :-) It's a big world, there's room for everyone.
All I see are a bunch of training wheels
This isnt archery. Why not just shoot a gun? Why not press a button in an app to shoot the arrow? Pathetic.
I bet it is still incredibly difficult to be perfect. He has to hold steady after all. Just because you can see better doesn't mean you aren't going to be shaky.
Ya ya whatever. From the caliper release to let off, and all that aiming crap, kitschy compound bows are for people with no real archery talent.
Why are you so mean ? It’s just a different type of archery.
Really? Let's see you pick one up and try to hit a dime sized target at 18m. Or hell, pick up a recurve or a stick bow and try to hit the gold on a target consistently.
No offense to anyone that enjoys it but not matter how many sites you put on a bow it will never be as accurate as you want it to be. Arrows flex way too much so it is nearly pointless to have sites that precise. The best and most practical archery is hunting which requires precision but not an unrealistic amount from a bow and arrow.
Sights
You will be amazed at how accurate a compound bow is if the archer holds in the middle and release smooth he can send all his arrows into the 4cm X ring at 50m, the world record is 70/72 arrows into the 8cm 10 ring at 50m
Certain compound bows do not have the archer's paradox flex. Including the ones in this video. Which you'd know if you watched it.
@@brianb8003 EVERY arrow out of EVERY bow does that. It happens because the arrow is flexible. You have a "light" shaft with a "heavy" point. The tail of that shaft is initially trying to "catch" up to the point. At a point in time the shaft can't flex anymore, and the tip finally moves. If you could slow the shot down to about 75,000 frames per second, you'd see how it works.
L compound bow
With all those mods, you'd might as well just use a rifle, or get good at barebowing. Historic archers didn't need all that crap to hit their mark lol.
In modern times, humanity overcomplicates everything....
Over 2,000 years ago in Ancient Greece, a man named Eratosthenes, who was the head of the library of alexandria, not only proved the earth was round, but calculated the exact circumference of it using 2 sticks and a shadow... he was only 75 kilometers off, which is negligible to the 40,075 km circumference of earth....
2,000 years later, after spending billions upon billions of dollars, and using high tech equipment like gps satelites, humanity rediscovered what a man figured out with 2 sticks... 2,000 years ago. Lol
A master archer in historic times, would not only barebow, but hit targets far quicker, with consistent accurately, while holding all their arrows in their firing hand.
This is one of the dumbest comments I've ever read. The main purpose of GPS satellites isn't to measure the earth, it's to determine position ON the earth for things like travel or military. The extra precision IS important for that & is why it's a lot harder to get lost at sea than it was for explorers working with sextants. Of all the anti-science cliches, imagine attacking GPS.
And that "master archer", what else did he do in life? He was usually in the military, and that was ALL he did, all day, every day. Many of these competitive archers still have day jobs. At least until they start winning good money on the tournament circuit.
"We should make stuff worse just because i don't like it and people before did it different"
Thanks