I wish the game had a new game+ option. Like letting you replay the areas with all your abilities to try and get the lowest day count to find everything without restrictions
I can say with almost certainty that there’ll be dlc. If the game hadn’t sold well, maybe not, but it’s hit 400k units in a week. More than the first three games *combined*. There’ll be dlc, probably an area or two.
One of my biggest gripes with this game is how easy it is to not unlock several things until the very end of the game. Lineup trumpet comes way too late, for example.
I wish there was a new game+ mode that just gave you stuff like Lineup Trumpet, Extra Hand, Charging Horn, and Pluckaphone so you can actually put them to good use.
The only way it’s kind of redeemed is if you want to get platinum on Dandori challenges after you 100% the game, these upgrades carry over and make that easier
The Lineup Trumpet did NOT deserve to get sidelined into an impossibly late side-mission completion bonus. Why is Nintendo so confident that the charge ability can completely replace it? In the fraction of the game left that I could enjoy the upgrade, I could tell it improved previously frustrating situations, such as collecting scattered raw material or flowering Pikmin with nectar. And it's also insulting that the Lineup Trumpet cannot put the maximum amount of Pikmin onto carryable objects, as it could have been the one consistent and fast way of doing so.
i found the charge far more useful in this game than the line-up trumpet honestly. I do agree though, the game not automatically doing maximum pikmin carrying occasionally is annoying
I remember having to direct pikmin to specific sides/line up behind me to traverse bridges/platforms in the older pikmin games. Really kind of miss that feature honestly. But the doggo does remove some of that need.
100%. Enemies not respawning in the overworld mean that you're basically just feeding the white and purple onion pellets. There's no corpses left to convert to whites and purples, which is going to make stocking up on them a highly tedious process, no matter how you do it.
You know what I'd like? An option at base camp to reconfigure the Beagle to not convert cave corpses, and when we get back to surface, dump them at the onion for the pikmin. Or let stuff respawn on the surface. Not boss encounters, but normals. Because no respawns make any late game restock tedious.
@@mew4ever23what’s really strange is every other game had respawning enemies. Hell, most of them even had different spawns based on how long you’d been playing, as anyone who got jump scared by Beady Long Legs in Perplexing Pool could tell you. This feels extremely weird to say but despite this game taking a decade, these secret unlocks being in the post-postgame and enemies never respawning make the game feel rushed or unfinished. Still excellent but it’s just weird.
I'll admit I didn't have that issue (well, partially), but that's mostly just because I felt like I had no reason to carry back corpses for the most part Smaller team numbers early on and constantly getting wild pikmin in caves made building up your numbers manually almost completely unnecessary
@@OriginalGameteeri personally only grinded a specific pikmin type once, in one day i made about 50whites and 50purples from candypops at the sandcastle map. I was very annoyed with myself for ignoring olimars tale until right before the final dandori battle, so i had both White and Purple onions but no reason to actually make more of them as everything that needs carrying was carried. (And its rare you actually need more than 70 at a time, especially considering the Flarlic mechanic limits your early game field cap)
@@JackSears95It makes the game feel so empty when you have cleared an area of enemies. There’s no danger, no life. It doesn’t feel like pikmin, I kinda hate it.
@@jardex2275Man fuck that long leg ball thing it takes forever to kill it. I guess the thing with the last night is you can buy and use a shit ton of consumables to kill the big boys because at this point you probably don’t have any other use for your raw material anymore
I got the white and purple onions before the 2 final areas because as soon as i realised olimar had a side story i instantly did it, AND then as soon as the sage leaf cave thing was unlocked i did that, so i had alot of time to build up my purple and white pikmin (Despite me already having over 100 purple pikmin because i grinded in the engulfed castle)
That really is the best way to do it, given the 1000 weight item in the final area, though unlike Pikmin 2, farming 100 purples is really easy as you can just keep entering the cave with 15 or so of whatever your most populous pikmin color is and it takes little in game time.
@@gferrol118 There was a mission mode dlc in pikmin 3, if you don't know what it is, it was basically that the third row of mission mode was locked behind a paywall, so technically dlc I guess. (this was for the wii U version)
honestly the extra hand seems actually useful if not a bit niche. theres been a fair few times where im waiting around with my captain or im one pikmin short of being able to carry an extra thing so having that one extra seems actually nice. if im like; in a cave or something i could see it being useful to carry a sheargrub or other single carry weight thing if all my pikmin and oatchi are currently busy doing stuff. its not a huge thing but i can think of times itd be nice to have shame its so late in the game
I just platinum'd all the sage trial dandori levels and it was a nice challenge but yeah, it really sucks that all the fun stuff is inherently locked until you're 99% done.
The real fun is trying to time attack the stages. Getting platinums is fairly easy, but when you score attack, you kind of realize how inefficient your first play through was and how much better you get. I REALLY hope they add more DLC Dandori missions like PIkmin 3 had. These were just short enough to not be overwhelming like PIkmin 3's but I'd love some more challenging ones that really make you consider some unorthodox strats like the cave with the high wall that was quite a brain scratcher.
You can get Swallow right after saving Olimar, and same goes for the White and Purple Onion's. As for the best reward, I HAVE to give it to Extra Hand. That powerup is the best simply because it is so dumb and funny
I got it literally after i 100%ed everything else personally, so to me it was a waste of my time, it would've been more handy to get early game and make more sense, maybe an upgraded version from louie so you can carry more yourself
@@Codeheart But that is the point of it. To be dumb waste of time just for a quick joke. Even in early game you would have never used it because it isn't very useful, but because it is so silly it is a post game reward
I'd love a NG+ where the only things that carry over are some of these upgrades. I'd like starting the game with a full coloured onion and having the upgrades that aren't related to the lab and oatchi training (not counting swallow, that could still carry over).
My favorite one is tye extra hand. I love being able to personally help my pikmin carry things, especially if I'm running low and can't efficiently delegate a task to all my pikmin. Plus you can carry gold nuggets or raw material. It's so cute!!
Every knows that oachi is the true commander to the pikmin. Nintendo knew this, so they made it so oachi could even delegate the lowly pikmin tasks to their underling captain.
I think the idea is that if you rush through the main game, the unlocks are meant to make the 100% cleanup easier. For those that would 100% each area before moving on, you didn't need them in the first place.
@@Drewsipher42nah I think pikmin 2 had a reasonable progression rate and strategy. Getting upgrades from boss treasures just made more sense and made them a lot harder to miss, unlike this game.
With 100 purple pikmin, max Oachi carry, and extra hand, you can carry up to 1101. I kinda wish there was a secret item you could get only if you had everything
@@gferrol118 if theres ever pikmin 4 mods i feel like a pikmin 4 hard mode/kaizo mod would have to make the golden vaulting table take 1101 carry weight (and letting oatchi get up to the treasure so you can actually carry it)
I like how the unlocks come so late because it makes the game more difficult. They serve to help you perfect your runs post game but not get you through the campaign. Love it!
Yeah I had all the secrets except the louie unlock. It's cool when you get the stuff but it's really too late to use them in most cases since you have to do a lot to get them. Love the unlocks tho.
I forgot about Oatchi being able to swallow and carry objects during the Purple Onion challenge. Lmao. It took me like 4 retries and accidentally sending Oatchi to pick up the onion to remember he could do it. It made that challenge so much easier. ☠️
Same. It took me so many attempts before looking it up and thinking I was an idiot. Because I was like "I'd have him carry it, but I can't get him up there." I forgot he could knock things down 🙃
I keep forgetting Oatchi can knock the purple onion off the platform. I kept actually getting 8 purples and the 20 ices to bring it down and barely making it in time for platinum, then I watched a run on it and still have a hand mark on my face for how I forgot Oatchi could knock things down. Swallowing is nice in the Dandori battles too, though the AI does go really easy on you....I gave them max handicap and myself min handicap in vs mode (outside of story mode) and STILL beat them by over 100 points...first try in each stage too.
I'm so happy that I got all of these except for the extra hand and lineup trumpet before post-game! I wish there was time to use them before it was all done though
I wish, instead of the extra hand, louie gave you the carry glove from 2, where pikmin areable to carry you back to the ship if you even get lost or want to automaically head back. Though, i guess that just negates the “go here” option in the map, but it was funny seeing olimar be carried off by his own pikmin, like it was a subtle joke to the bad ending in the first game.
by starting with rocks and flying pikmin in the cavern of king its then possible to get all nine at once (but only in the second to last floor nomatter what third pikmin you chose
@julien827 I tried and that isn't possible the game will replace the flowers with different colors or eggs depending on the situation. Nintendo didn't want us to have 9 types all at once
I'm with you on the upgrades feeling too late game to actually matter. It's nice to finally have onions for all of the Pikmin from a story standpoint, but you can only have three Pikmin types on the field at a time. So.... why bother from a gameplay perspective? Enough caves will provide wild Pikmin or candypop buds to get all of the Pikmin you need, and every overworld area is designed in such a way that only three main types will really be needed. It might be different for players who don't reset for every Pikmin death like I do-I ended up with 100-200 of each Pikmin by the end of the game, and I really didn't need that many, lol. Extra Hand just made me regret 100%ing every area before getting Louie. XD Pikmin 4 is absolutely my favourite game of several years, but it definitely made some questionable decisions.
I wish there was a NewGame+ where its harder and you have all skills and pikmin types unlocked (though not the amount of the pikmin) to really make use of these upgrades.
The game needs a new game plus so you can actually use these upgrades i think the swarm whistle thing should have been unlockable near the start of the game. It feels kinda janky in this game but like, being able to actually move your pikmin around feels so essential. I have no idea why 3 felt the need to remove it
The rewards you get for completing the lab and upgrading Oatchi aren't rewards. It's like someone saying they bought you a house and you show up to a yard of building supplies.
This is why new game plus seems like is should’ve been here all of these are amazing upgrades but you probably 100% all the areas already not to mention that they barely make a difference in the post game they although are really good in the start of the game seems like new game plus should be here
ngl i feel like with how late game u get all these upgrades, the game is lowkey asking you to get platium medals on everything. even then though idk if i will end up doing that though lol.
Weirdly, I had more trouble with the first half of Sage Leaf's challenges than the second half, including the ones for the Onions. At least, when it comes to getting Gold & Platinum medals.
The one that gave me the most trouble was the one with all the bulborb larvae and shear fleas, it just felt like you never had enough time and the auto lock made throwing pikmin such a hassle.
@@JackSears95 If you're riding Oatchi, make sure you don't. Send him into battle and he'll pick off the guys you miss. Honesly, losing the purples does almost noting to slow you down as long as you have one or two left.
Minus the getting platinum part, same honestly I was surprised at finishing trials 6 through 9 first try when I struggled with the first 5 so much, 7 especially felt anticlimactic
I hope for DLC or something so we can actually make use of these upgrades. I was able to get the purple and white onions as well as swallow before postgame, but everything else only really has a use if I’m wanting to get a high score in dandori battles/challenges (an online leaderboard would be nice)
my biggest gripes are pluckaphone should be free after having to get sooooo much material and WHY IS THE LINEUP TRUMPET NOT AVAILABLE UNTIL THE LAST CAVE WHEN YOU CAN ONLY USE IT AS CAPTAIN
I decided to stop Olimar's tale right before I got the last piece. The purple onion was the last thing I got besides the gold. Speaking of Olimar's tale, is there an onion in Hero's Hideaway that I can't sense or see because it says 0/??? making me thing there is one.
I don't believe HH has one in shipwreck tale I think there is exactly enough flarlic just to reach 100 and then 2 yellow and blue onions all before HH. I probably need to play again and check though...
@@UniversalSketch Thank you, I was actually missing the swallow skill, I don't know why Olimar didn't give it to me before, I already had his side story complete and all
In the "extra hand" section, I actually discovered you don't have to go to that specific cave to get that enemy. You can just get that enemy anywhere. I found this out when I got the firey bulblax from the frozen inferno or something.
I like how i walked across the naturally because I was trying to make the game slow and long so I can enjoy every second. But the only thing that did surprise me was Louie quest.
honestly, the only item i had well before the final area was the pluckaphone. everything else was unlocked during the final area or after the final cave, so very little of the cooler items or abilities got to see any use since i'd already 100%ed the rest of the game up till that point. it kinda feels like they didn't consider how the pacing would be for completionists or more experienced players, n it's my only real complaint gameplay-wise (most of my complaints are narrative) besides how ridiculously easy the game felt at times. that said, casualization is a small price to pay for a better chance to get more pikmin games in the future. i just wish there was more you could do with the things you unlock, cuz by the time you get most of em you've finished the game n there's nothin left to do, n the world feels dead cuz nothin respawns on the surface
Just finished rolling the firat credits and olimars thing. Now im try9ng to complete the sage challenges before the last 2 areas so i can have the special onions
this guide was great! was hoping one of the unlocks would be enemies respawn daily in all the areas so i could farm pikmin, but alas im just left getting the pellets... sad
I wish i knew about the pluckaphone when i started. My main fun in the game was throwing endless bombs. It was a terrorism spree pretty much. Now im having to redo levels to pick up daily resources to get it.
I hope we're able to get DLC unlikely as it is because outside of getting low times in dandori most of these rewards you can't even take advantage of... It IS worth noting if you have infinite rush that will carry over to moss in olimar's story. Though if youve already done everything youre most likely done there too
As much as I want DLC I'm not expecting it 3 had the side challenge mode so it made sense in hindsight, but 4 is pretty much exclusively the main campaign content-wise
@@OriginalGameteer They could pretty easily tack on some extra dandori challenges, if not as a bonus cave like the Trial of the Sage Leaf, then selectable from the main menu. I wouldn't expect more than that though.
certainly wish i knew about the pluck a phone before i did some challenges, lol... but i got a lot of other upgrades and beat them all pretty effortlessly, apart from 3 challenges in the sage leaf cave. would certainly be nice if some of these upgrades were obtained earlier in the game to make use of, such as the line up trumpet. i was sad to see before pikmin 4 released that it didn't make a return again. and then i suddenly saw someone use it in a video and got super excited. but then it was like... late upgrade and didn't get to use it much, plus it's janky too in the sense that if you move pikmin into an item, only the number that items needs will pick it up. so, you can move pikmin into it and get the max onto an item. you still have to toss them.. also kinda annoying idle pikmin don't automatically help carrying an item if other pikmin pass them by
i did all the dandori master stuff without pluck a phone it kept kicking my ass I have bronze in most of them and some of them have 8 seconds on the timer left
I got the oatchi swallow ability before completing giants hearth or primordial thicket. Unless those two are considered post game i’d say it’s more of a mid late game ability
@@personita2.733while i get that's the point the credits roll, the story clearly isn't done at that point and you continue playing like normal. To me postgame means stuff like the battle frontier in Pokemon where you have ran out of gym leaders to face and concluded the main story.
@@jasonreed7522 I agree but that's certainly what the devs intended, what with you unlocking the olimar side mode and access to the purple and white onions
I got plat on all the dandori challenges, all dandori battles, and sage leafling challenges. Also Louie's item is better for singular items like raw material. Completed the whole game 100 now working on maxing the Pikmin count
I hope they add some sort of new game plus feature so you can play through the game again with all the upgrades so you can make use of them. And I got platinum on all the dandori challenges without the pluck whistle so you don’t need it but it’s much harder
I specifically went out of my way to get the white and purple onions (and subsequently swallow) before the last two areas of the game, the others I didnt even know existed until post game and never needed them
the only way i can see the very late upgrades to be useful is if they add DLC in the future. I also would have liked it if they let you choose to start a new slot with still having all the upgrades to see how fast you can beat it with all of the upgrades from start to finish.
I don't have a switch myself, but I've been very slightly aware of the franchise for many years because of smash bros. Seeing this new release is super cool though and it looks like a blast. I'm enjoying peoples playthroughs and I'll have to get more into the games I bet
The switch is getting old, but there’s some great games on there. The entire pikmin franchise (except the one for 3ds that we don’t talk about) is on the Switch, if you’ve also got Super Mario Odyssey, which is maybe one of if not the best 3D Mario ever. Breath of the Wild is excellent and Tears of the Kingdom blows it all the way out of the water. Most newer Pokémon games are kinda meh, but Pokémon Legends Arceus is a much needed breath of fresh air. Mario Kart 8 Deluxe is a port but if you have the DLC pass it has a completely silly amount of content. Plus we’re getting Super Mario RPG remake soon, and that’s just straight gas. All that being said, I wouldn’t be surprised if we got a new system somewhat soon. I mean, it’s Nintendo, they might just not make a new system for another 5 years or so, or they could announce the Switch 2 at the next direct. Considering that Pikmin 4 has joy cons as a treasure you can collect under the “Newly Nostalgic” collection that also includes a game and watch, a Game Boy Advance SP, and a WaveBird GameCube controller, it could be a hint that we’re getting a new console soon but only miyamoto knows. Anyway. Sorry for the novel. Cheers, stay safe out there!
Whose idea was it to keep the swarming ability from the player until they have basically already beaten the game? What a stupid idea! Why isn't it just an upgrade in the shop? It was a basic ability in the first two games, so why keep it from us?
I have been tempted to try to get platinum in Dandori Master but if it doesn't give anything, I won't do it lol. I at least completed them and got the onions.
I have 100% the game except for the Louie missions, yet I do not have the option to unlock infinite rush for Oatchi. All skills bought, and I have 8 leftover pup drive but no option for infinite rush
I tried the sage trials as soon as I could first day after I got olimar and his stuff back and I couldn’t even beat the first level decided to come back later
Almost all of these were useless to me The only one i used not just for messing around was the pluckaphone because i had been 100% area as soon as i possibly could, but i did the last cave and sage leaf trials last
Man, my mom and I were SO excited for this and to be honest. We became pretty disappointed. The two player in 4 is super stupid. They took away two player challenge games, which were so fun to try and platinum. They took away bingo, which was one my mom loved! They have super big and beautiful levels, but your day time goes so fast and instead of getting back to base and getting to do a night mission the same day, it counts as a day each. There was just so much good from 3 that I feel they could have explored more and done so much with in 4. Still played it all, but it’s one that I try to go back and play and I end up just turning it off because it isn’t fun to play after you finish it. Which is sad, because I go back and play the 3rd all the time. But I’ve done it so much, it’s getting old.
Honestly I wish the enemy's responds like they did in Pikmin 1 or Pikmin 2 like after every day they respond or after every other day they would because it sucks when you allocate all enemies 21 like what if I get a Pikmin Extinction towards the end of the game kind of thing
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I wish the game had a new game+ option. Like letting you replay the areas with all your abilities to try and get the lowest day count to find everything without restrictions
This needs to happen so badly, but considering almost no Nintendo games have NG+ I’m not optimistic
DLC????
I can say with almost certainty that there’ll be dlc. If the game hadn’t sold well, maybe not, but it’s hit 400k units in a week. More than the first three games *combined*. There’ll be dlc, probably an area or two.
@@hotdog8109that’s also Japan physical copies only
I considered Olimar's shipwrecked tale to be the new game+ but I honestly like that idea.
One of my biggest gripes with this game is how easy it is to not unlock several things until the very end of the game. Lineup trumpet comes way too late, for example.
yeah since the last dungeon includes one of the required treasures 🙄
I wish there was a new game+ mode that just gave you stuff like Lineup Trumpet, Extra Hand, Charging Horn, and Pluckaphone so you can actually put them to good use.
It's useless with oatchi anyhow
Lineup trumpet is pretty much useless anyways when rush is already available.
The only way it’s kind of redeemed is if you want to get platinum on Dandori challenges after you 100% the game, these upgrades carry over and make that easier
The Lineup Trumpet did NOT deserve to get sidelined into an impossibly late side-mission completion bonus. Why is Nintendo so confident that the charge ability can completely replace it? In the fraction of the game left that I could enjoy the upgrade, I could tell it improved previously frustrating situations, such as collecting scattered raw material or flowering Pikmin with nectar. And it's also insulting that the Lineup Trumpet cannot put the maximum amount of Pikmin onto carryable objects, as it could have been the one consistent and fast way of doing so.
I know right? I was WAITING for it to show up in Russ' lab only for the last treasure needed to be in the LAST cave
i found the charge far more useful in this game than the line-up trumpet honestly. I do agree though, the game not automatically doing maximum pikmin carrying occasionally is annoying
Honestly Oatchi renders the lineup pretty redundant lol
I remember having to direct pikmin to specific sides/line up behind me to traverse bridges/platforms in the older pikmin games. Really kind of miss that feature honestly. But the doggo does remove some of that need.
I completely agree
100%. Enemies not respawning in the overworld mean that you're basically just feeding the white and purple onion pellets. There's no corpses left to convert to whites and purples, which is going to make stocking up on them a highly tedious process, no matter how you do it.
You know what I'd like? An option at base camp to reconfigure the Beagle to not convert cave corpses, and when we get back to surface, dump them at the onion for the pikmin. Or let stuff respawn on the surface. Not boss encounters, but normals. Because no respawns make any late game restock tedious.
@@mew4ever23what’s really strange is every other game had respawning enemies. Hell, most of them even had different spawns based on how long you’d been playing, as anyone who got jump scared by Beady Long Legs in Perplexing Pool could tell you. This feels extremely weird to say but despite this game taking a decade, these secret unlocks being in the post-postgame and enemies never respawning make the game feel rushed or unfinished. Still excellent but it’s just weird.
I'll admit I didn't have that issue (well, partially), but that's mostly just because I felt like I had no reason to carry back corpses for the most part
Smaller team numbers early on and constantly getting wild pikmin in caves made building up your numbers manually almost completely unnecessary
@@OriginalGameteeri personally only grinded a specific pikmin type once, in one day i made about 50whites and 50purples from candypops at the sandcastle map.
I was very annoyed with myself for ignoring olimars tale until right before the final dandori battle, so i had both White and Purple onions but no reason to actually make more of them as everything that needs carrying was carried. (And its rare you actually need more than 70 at a time, especially considering the Flarlic mechanic limits your early game field cap)
@@JackSears95It makes the game feel so empty when you have cleared an area of enemies. There’s no danger, no life. It doesn’t feel like pikmin, I kinda hate it.
I really hope there’s some dlc areas in the future so I can actually make use of infinite rush. I literally had 100% completion once I finally got it.
I never even considered that dlc could be a thing! That'd be awesome.
@@329linkyeah if they are trying to make pikmin a household classic then dlc could make it a little more popular
Doing the final night mission was the last thing I tried. I gave up and let the game auto clear it for me.
I thought for sure there was a seventh level once you 100% the game . There's room for a seventh level on the level select screen
@@jardex2275Man fuck that long leg ball thing it takes forever to kill it. I guess the thing with the last night is you can buy and use a shit ton of consumables to kill the big boys because at this point you probably don’t have any other use for your raw material anymore
I got the white and purple onions before the 2 final areas because as soon as i realised olimar had a side story i instantly did it, AND then as soon as the sage leaf cave thing was unlocked i did that, so i had alot of time to build up my purple and white pikmin (Despite me already having over 100 purple pikmin because i grinded in the engulfed castle)
Wait the olimar quest is what unlocks the silver leaf challenge? well shit now i know what I need to do tonight.
That really is the best way to do it, given the 1000 weight item in the final area, though unlike Pikmin 2, farming 100 purples is really easy as you can just keep entering the cave with 15 or so of whatever your most populous pikmin color is and it takes little in game time.
I was a little bummed there wasnt a secret difficulty up setting.
You never know, maybe if it sells well enough, we'll get some dlc. Would be kinda weird getting pikmin dlc, but it'd be cool
@@gferrol118 There was a mission mode dlc in pikmin 3, if you don't know what it is, it was basically that the third row of mission mode was locked behind a paywall, so technically dlc I guess. (this was for the wii U version)
@@davicl3s548 I only played deluxe, so I didn't know the original had some :P
@@gferrol118 deluxe gives you the dlc ones for free
@@davicl3s548 The mission mode was basically what Dandori Missions are now. Okay, those missions are harder though than the ones in Pikmin 34.
Extra hand did actually save me once in a dandori challenge. There was a pile of maybe 21 gold nuggets, and I had 20 Pikmin on me, and no Oatchi.
I was telling someone about this exact hypothetical situation!
honestly the extra hand seems actually useful if not a bit niche. theres been a fair few times where im waiting around with my captain or im one pikmin short of being able to carry an extra thing so having that one extra seems actually nice. if im like; in a cave or something i could see it being useful to carry a sheargrub or other single carry weight thing if all my pikmin and oatchi are currently busy doing stuff. its not a huge thing but i can think of times itd be nice to have
shame its so late in the game
Same
Dandori issue
@@cornparade6874 I have all platinums, I think I’m free from issues.
Finally, someone on TH-cam mentioning that the game’s overworld creatures don’t respawn is a problem.
I just platinum'd all the sage trial dandori levels and it was a nice challenge but yeah, it really sucks that all the fun stuff is inherently locked until you're 99% done.
The real fun is trying to time attack the stages. Getting platinums is fairly easy, but when you score attack, you kind of realize how inefficient your first play through was and how much better you get. I REALLY hope they add more DLC Dandori missions like PIkmin 3 had. These were just short enough to not be overwhelming like PIkmin 3's but I'd love some more challenging ones that really make you consider some unorthodox strats like the cave with the high wall that was quite a brain scratcher.
You can get Swallow right after saving Olimar, and same goes for the White and Purple Onion's. As for the best reward, I HAVE to give it to Extra Hand. That powerup is the best simply because it is so dumb and funny
I got it literally after i 100%ed everything else personally, so to me it was a waste of my time, it would've been more handy to get early game and make more sense, maybe an upgraded version from louie so you can carry more yourself
@@Codeheart But that is the point of it. To be dumb waste of time just for a quick joke. Even in early game you would have never used it because it isn't very useful, but because it is so silly it is a post game reward
They better have dlc so we can actually use these without going back to areas we already 100 percented
The line trumpet woulda been so great to have anytime in the game, but they decided to throw it in legit in the last stretch of the game
I'd love a NG+ where the only things that carry over are some of these upgrades. I'd like starting the game with a full coloured onion and having the upgrades that aren't related to the lab and oatchi training (not counting swallow, that could still carry over).
My favorite one is tye extra hand. I love being able to personally help my pikmin carry things, especially if I'm running low and can't efficiently delegate a task to all my pikmin. Plus you can carry gold nuggets or raw material. It's so cute!!
Every knows that oachi is the true commander to the pikmin. Nintendo knew this, so they made it so oachi could even delegate the lowly pikmin tasks to their underling captain.
@@honey-hunterslimefanno.3257 I wish Oatchi could throw the player's captain.
Yeah the small item transport is pretty good compared to the pellet transport movement speed
I think the idea is that if you rush through the main game, the unlocks are meant to make the 100% cleanup easier. For those that would 100% each area before moving on, you didn't need them in the first place.
Man everything cool is post game
Been like that since the first game lol
@@Drewsipher42nah I think pikmin 2 had a reasonable progression rate and strategy. Getting upgrades from boss treasures just made more sense and made them a lot harder to miss, unlike this game.
@@Drewsipher42 Pikmin 1 literally had no post game and Pikmin 2 didn't have any upgrades in the Wistful Wild.
These are going to be such excellent additions to the item pool in the inevitable Pikmin 4 Randomizer.
The 101 weight objects got nothing on louie.
With 100 purple pikmin, max Oachi carry, and extra hand, you can carry up to 1101. I kinda wish there was a secret item you could get only if you had everything
@@gferrol118 Shhhh, if my man is in pikmin 1 he's objectively better than olimar
@@gferrol118 if theres ever pikmin 4 mods i feel like a pikmin 4 hard mode/kaizo mod would have to make the golden vaulting table take 1101 carry weight (and letting oatchi get up to the treasure so you can actually carry it)
I like how the unlocks come so late because it makes the game more difficult. They serve to help you perfect your runs post game but not get you through the campaign. Love it!
bro I thought I 100% the game you're telling me the louie quest mattered
Yeah I had all the secrets except the louie unlock.
It's cool when you get the stuff but it's really too late to use them in most cases since you have to do a lot to get them.
Love the unlocks tho.
I already had all these, but i really enjoyed your narration and a video compiling and documenting all this
I forgot about Oatchi being able to swallow and carry objects during the Purple Onion challenge. Lmao. It took me like 4 retries and accidentally sending Oatchi to pick up the onion to remember he could do it. It made that challenge so much easier. ☠️
I dont think its possible without oatchi lmao
Same. It took me so many attempts before looking it up and thinking I was an idiot. Because I was like "I'd have him carry it, but I can't get him up there." I forgot he could knock things down 🙃
I keep forgetting Oatchi can knock the purple onion off the platform. I kept actually getting 8 purples and the 20 ices to bring it down and barely making it in time for platinum, then I watched a run on it and still have a hand mark on my face for how I forgot Oatchi could knock things down. Swallowing is nice in the Dandori battles too, though the AI does go really easy on you....I gave them max handicap and myself min handicap in vs mode (outside of story mode) and STILL beat them by over 100 points...first try in each stage too.
I'm so happy that I got all of these except for the extra hand and lineup trumpet before post-game! I wish there was time to use them before it was all done though
I wish, instead of the extra hand, louie gave you the carry glove from 2, where pikmin areable to carry you back to the ship if you even get lost or want to automaically head back.
Though, i guess that just negates the “go here” option in the map, but it was funny seeing olimar be carried off by his own pikmin, like it was a subtle joke to the bad ending in the first game.
I saw the lineup trumpet in the controls in the demo and I'm pretty disappointed it's not available until you at least get to the final area
I wish one of these unlocks removed the 3 type limit so I could have all 9 types by going in a cave with the main 8 then using a glow seed.
by starting with rocks and flying pikmin in the cavern of king its then possible to get all nine at once (but only in the second to last floor nomatter what third pikmin you chose
@julien827 I tried and that isn't possible the game will replace the flowers with different colors or eggs depending on the situation. Nintendo didn't want us to have 9 types all at once
i really want white and purple onion but i cant do olimars shipwreck tale because being restricted by 15 days just makes me way too nervous
I'm with you on the upgrades feeling too late game to actually matter. It's nice to finally have onions for all of the Pikmin from a story standpoint, but you can only have three Pikmin types on the field at a time. So.... why bother from a gameplay perspective? Enough caves will provide wild Pikmin or candypop buds to get all of the Pikmin you need, and every overworld area is designed in such a way that only three main types will really be needed. It might be different for players who don't reset for every Pikmin death like I do-I ended up with 100-200 of each Pikmin by the end of the game, and I really didn't need that many, lol.
Extra Hand just made me regret 100%ing every area before getting Louie. XD
Pikmin 4 is absolutely my favourite game of several years, but it definitely made some questionable decisions.
Now i know that i have every think thank you
I wish there was a NewGame+ where its harder and you have all skills and pikmin types unlocked (though not the amount of the pikmin) to really make use of these upgrades.
The game needs a new game plus so you can actually use these upgrades i think the swarm whistle thing should have been unlockable near the start of the game. It feels kinda janky in this game but like, being able to actually move your pikmin around feels so essential. I have no idea why 3 felt the need to remove it
I thought there would definitely be a seventh/ secret level since theres enough room for one more level on the screen
The rewards you get for completing the lab and upgrading Oatchi aren't rewards. It's like someone saying they bought you a house and you show up to a yard of building supplies.
This is why new game plus seems like is should’ve been here all of these are amazing upgrades but you probably 100% all the areas already not to mention that they barely make a difference in the post game they although are really good in the start of the game seems like new game plus should be here
ngl i feel like with how late game u get all these upgrades, the game is lowkey asking you to get platium medals on everything. even then though idk if i will end up doing that though lol.
Don't worry about it there is a mission for that but it's only for a handful of raw materials
Weirdly, I had more trouble with the first half of Sage Leaf's challenges than the second half, including the ones for the Onions.
At least, when it comes to getting Gold & Platinum medals.
The one that gave me the most trouble was the one with all the bulborb larvae and shear fleas, it just felt like you never had enough time and the auto lock made throwing pikmin such a hassle.
@@JackSears95 If you're riding Oatchi, make sure you don't. Send him into battle and he'll pick off the guys you miss.
Honesly, losing the purples does almost noting to slow you down as long as you have one or two left.
Minus the getting platinum part, same honestly
I was surprised at finishing trials 6 through 9 first try when I struggled with the first 5 so much, 7 especially felt anticlimactic
@@OriginalGameteer Is that the one where you just turn off three gates to reach Sage?
I hope for DLC or something so we can actually make use of these upgrades. I was able to get the purple and white onions as well as swallow before postgame, but everything else only really has a use if I’m wanting to get a high score in dandori battles/challenges (an online leaderboard would be nice)
my biggest gripes are pluckaphone should be free after having to get sooooo much material and WHY IS THE LINEUP TRUMPET NOT AVAILABLE UNTIL THE LAST CAVE WHEN YOU CAN ONLY USE IT AS CAPTAIN
That purple onion challenge had me metaphorically pulling my out…I finally ended up getting it with literally one second left
purp took me two tries, but I did it pretty late game with upgrades, white took 5 tries tho
@@shinyrayquaza9 i personally didn’t have much trouble with the white one
@@Nico_2202 my routing the first few times was bad and the pikmin were too slow to make it
I decided to stop Olimar's tale right before I got the last piece. The purple onion was the last thing I got besides the gold.
Speaking of Olimar's tale, is there an onion in Hero's Hideaway that I can't sense or see because it says 0/??? making me thing there is one.
I don't believe HH has one in shipwreck tale I think there is exactly enough flarlic just to reach 100 and then 2 yellow and blue onions all before HH. I probably need to play again and check though...
For Fit for a Feast 4, I used the Engulfed Castle Molten Bulblax, as I didn't know where Cradle for a Beast was.
I have done everything and have 8 Oatchi pup drive points but Shepherd doesn't have the option to teach the final skill, someone knows why?
Talk to her again you need her to register that you've completed the mission
@@UniversalSketch Thank you, I was actually missing the swallow skill, I don't know why Olimar didn't give it to me before, I already had his side story complete and all
In the "extra hand" section, I actually discovered you don't have to go to that specific cave to get that enemy. You can just get that enemy anywhere. I found this out when I got the firey bulblax from the frozen inferno or something.
I think the cave hint is for those who forgot where to find the enemy but yeah, many of them appear in multiple caves.
you don't need to cure EVERY leafling to get the Infinite Rush. Just cure enough to get 8 pup drive.
0:26 im so exited for my copy of tbe game to comr on tuesday, BUT YOU CAN BE A LEAFLING TO?!?!?!? this game gets better and better
I like how i walked across the naturally because I was trying to make the game slow and long so I can enjoy every second. But the only thing that did surprise me was Louie quest.
honestly, the only item i had well before the final area was the pluckaphone. everything else was unlocked during the final area or after the final cave, so very little of the cooler items or abilities got to see any use since i'd already 100%ed the rest of the game up till that point. it kinda feels like they didn't consider how the pacing would be for completionists or more experienced players, n it's my only real complaint gameplay-wise (most of my complaints are narrative) besides how ridiculously easy the game felt at times. that said, casualization is a small price to pay for a better chance to get more pikmin games in the future. i just wish there was more you could do with the things you unlock, cuz by the time you get most of em you've finished the game n there's nothin left to do, n the world feels dead cuz nothin respawns on the surface
I still don't know how to use the lineup trumpet
hold ZL and use the right stick
@UniversalSketch I know how you use it but don't see where I could need it
I’m just now realizing I didn’t use the whistle that instantly plucks Pikmin on any dandori challenge despite clearing them all platinum…
thanks for not putting spoiler in the thumbnail, I wish other people didn't suck
Just finished rolling the firat credits and olimars thing. Now im try9ng to complete the sage challenges before the last 2 areas so i can have the special onions
hopefully enemies respawn if they ever add harder difficulty options
I'm all on board for harder difficulty options but man the game feels so slow when there is no more creatures to make pikmin out of
this guide was great! was hoping one of the unlocks would be enemies respawn daily in all the areas so i could farm pikmin, but alas im just left getting the pellets... sad
I wish i knew about the pluckaphone when i started. My main fun in the game was throwing endless bombs. It was a terrorism spree pretty much. Now im having to redo levels to pick up daily resources to get it.
I am glad to find this video after finding everything
I hope we're able to get DLC unlikely as it is because outside of getting low times in dandori most of these rewards you can't even take advantage of... It IS worth noting if you have infinite rush that will carry over to moss in olimar's story. Though if youve already done everything youre most likely done there too
As much as I want DLC I'm not expecting it
3 had the side challenge mode so it made sense in hindsight, but 4 is pretty much exclusively the main campaign content-wise
@@OriginalGameteer They could pretty easily tack on some extra dandori challenges, if not as a bonus cave like the Trial of the Sage Leaf, then selectable from the main menu. I wouldn't expect more than that though.
certainly wish i knew about the pluck a phone before i did some challenges, lol... but i got a lot of other upgrades and beat them all pretty effortlessly, apart from 3 challenges in the sage leaf cave.
would certainly be nice if some of these upgrades were obtained earlier in the game to make use of, such as the line up trumpet. i was sad to see before pikmin 4 released that it didn't make a return again. and then i suddenly saw someone use it in a video and got super excited. but then it was like... late upgrade and didn't get to use it much, plus it's janky too in the sense that if you move pikmin into an item, only the number that items needs will pick it up. so, you can move pikmin into it and get the max onto an item. you still have to toss them.. also kinda annoying idle pikmin don't automatically help carrying an item if other pikmin pass them by
i did all the dandori master stuff without pluck a phone
it kept kicking my ass
I have bronze in most of them and some of them have 8 seconds on the timer left
I got the oatchi swallow ability before completing giants hearth or primordial thicket. Unless those two are considered post game i’d say it’s more of a mid late game ability
Everything after rescuing olimar is considered post game so yeah
@@personita2.733while i get that's the point the credits roll, the story clearly isn't done at that point and you continue playing like normal.
To me postgame means stuff like the battle frontier in Pokemon where you have ran out of gym leaders to face and concluded the main story.
@@jasonreed7522 I agree but that's certainly what the devs intended, what with you unlocking the olimar side mode and access to the purple and white onions
I got plat on all the dandori challenges, all dandori battles, and sage leafling challenges. Also Louie's item is better for singular items like raw material. Completed the whole game 100 now working on maxing the Pikmin count
I have such a terrible dandori issue i couldn't beat the sage leaf trails without the plucking whistle
I hope they add some sort of new game plus feature so you can play through the game again with all the upgrades so you can make use of them. And I got platinum on all the dandori challenges without the pluck whistle so you don’t need it but it’s much harder
I specifically went out of my way to get the white and purple onions (and subsequently swallow) before the last two areas of the game, the others I didnt even know existed until post game and never needed them
the only way i can see the very late upgrades to be useful is if they add DLC in the future. I also would have liked it if they let you choose to start a new slot with still having all the upgrades to see how fast you can beat it with all of the upgrades from start to finish.
Really wish there was New Game Plus, to make all these unlocks worth a damn
I don't have a switch myself, but I've been very slightly aware of the franchise for many years because of smash bros. Seeing this new release is super cool though and it looks like a blast. I'm enjoying peoples playthroughs and I'll have to get more into the games I bet
The switch is getting old, but there’s some great games on there. The entire pikmin franchise (except the one for 3ds that we don’t talk about) is on the Switch, if you’ve also got Super Mario Odyssey, which is maybe one of if not the best 3D Mario ever. Breath of the Wild is excellent and Tears of the Kingdom blows it all the way out of the water. Most newer Pokémon games are kinda meh, but Pokémon Legends Arceus is a much needed breath of fresh air. Mario Kart 8 Deluxe is a port but if you have the DLC pass it has a completely silly amount of content. Plus we’re getting Super Mario RPG remake soon, and that’s just straight gas.
All that being said, I wouldn’t be surprised if we got a new system somewhat soon. I mean, it’s Nintendo, they might just not make a new system for another 5 years or so, or they could announce the Switch 2 at the next direct. Considering that Pikmin 4 has joy cons as a treasure you can collect under the “Newly Nostalgic” collection that also includes a game and watch, a Game Boy Advance SP, and a WaveBird GameCube controller, it could be a hint that we’re getting a new console soon but only miyamoto knows.
Anyway. Sorry for the novel. Cheers, stay safe out there!
What do I think? None of these are a secret. They’re all standard game upgrades. But you’re right, they unlock way too late to do anything with.
The lineup trumpet makes the same sound in 2, did anyone know that
How does this game not have new game plus! Would love to tear through this game with all unlocks.
I find it odd that 100%ing a cave causes creatures to respawn but not aboveground areas
thanks for telling us what secret unlocks there are!
Good video bro. Keep up the good work, your channel will pop off one day it’s just a grind. I just hit 100 subs myself 🎉
still upset that the lineup trumpet/swarm is basically just useless if you did 100% everything before final boss like most pikmin fans
I just didn't even bother doing the louie one cuz I had already 100%ed all the areas prior to getting him
Whose idea was it to keep the swarming ability from the player until they have basically already beaten the game?
What a stupid idea! Why isn't it just an upgrade in the shop? It was a basic ability in the first two games, so why keep it from us?
I feel like there might be dlc needed for this but it is still late game to be used
I have been tempted to try to get platinum in Dandori Master but if it doesn't give anything, I won't do it lol. I at least completed them and got the onions.
Video so good it cured my eczema
I have 100% the game except for the Louie missions, yet I do not have the option to unlock infinite rush for Oatchi. All skills bought, and I have 8 leftover pup drive but no option for infinite rush
you might be missing the swallow skill, also you have to talk to her again
please tell me I can just kill olimar in this tale and still get the sage leaf thing
i don't have moss
wait you can SKIP the sage trials???
I mean you don't have to do the trials but if you want the purple and white onions then yes you do need to do the trials
@@thedesyncedcontroller7404 i didnt know that i thought you had to do them to progress. Oh well i got the purple and white onions anyway
I'm absolutely going to get the white and purple onions before the final boss. I want to see if I can beat it with 100 purples 😂
I tried the sage trials as soon as I could first day after I got olimar and his stuff back and I couldn’t even beat the first level decided to come back later
man i wish there was some sort of new game+ option, where we could restart with all the upgrades weve obtained
not a huge fan of infinite rush tbh. its a nice thought but the steering is so stiff its basically impossible to really use effectively
It also sucks how late you get the rock and winged onions.
I would have appreciated all these items and customizable options before beating the final boss. Now I'm just here with 1 dandori battle left :/
I finished it 100% but I didn’t at the same time?
Thank you for the spoiler free thumbnail ^_^
I try
Almost all of these were useless to me
The only one i used not just for messing around was the pluckaphone because i had been 100% area as soon as i possibly could, but i did the last cave and sage leaf trials last
Why is the Oatchi chapter misspelled?
these are Automatic chapters sorry I'll try and see if I can set my own soon
@@UniversalSketch I thought automatic chapters are titled based on words displayed on the screen, not audio
So weird to have some of the best unlocks for when the game is essentially finished. Besides the purple onion these don't even feel game breaking
Man, my mom and I were SO excited for this and to be honest. We became pretty disappointed. The two player in 4 is super stupid. They took away two player challenge games, which were so fun to try and platinum. They took away bingo, which was one my mom loved! They have super big and beautiful levels, but your day time goes so fast and instead of getting back to base and getting to do a night mission the same day, it counts as a day each. There was just so much good from 3 that I feel they could have explored more and done so much with in 4. Still played it all, but it’s one that I try to go back and play and I end up just turning it off because it isn’t fun to play after you finish it. Which is sad, because I go back and play the 3rd all the time. But I’ve done it so much, it’s getting old.
Wait why the hell has the game got me doing tasks for Louie? Should be jettisoning him into space, not getting him food
Honestly I wish the enemy's responds like they did in Pikmin 1 or Pikmin 2 like after every day they respond or after every other day they would because it sucks when you allocate all enemies 21 like what if I get a Pikmin Extinction towards the end of the game kind of thing
respawn is the word you meant to say
I always thought it would be cool to be able to help out the Pikmin every once in a while. Nice.
3:40 Counterpoint: funy
The game is fun but needs a new game plus mode