Ahoy - Gas Cookers
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- Welcome to this week's Ahoy. Join Dick Durham and Dick Beaumont as they discuss gas cookers onboard. If you have not followed Ocean Sailor, Ahoy is where we answer your burning questions. So sit back, relax as the two Dicks answer your questions.
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A question to Mr. Beaumont: Why don't you use multiple large built-in solar panels and a huge battery bank which would be enough for at least 3-4 days of usage and could supply enough amps). I would even suggest getting rid of the main engine and having a serial electric-hybrid drive train. So an electric inboard motor could run from the batteries which could be charged by solar or fed through the generator
I have been very much in favor of an induction stove for some time. The heat thrown off by a gas stove inside of a yacht is a serious discomfort while cooking in warm climates, which for most is your summer sailing condition. Induction stoves produce zero heat, only the pan gets hot. With a gas stove 78% of the heat is cast off into the cabin of the vessel. Induction is very much the best way too cook at home or on a boat. I'm too old to be carrying gas bottles and taxiing around looking for gas and adapters. Solar panels and a quiet wind generator and a sea generator. Use your generator as little as needed. Dick I'm putting my Kraken 50 plan together.
Not to mention that even if you can purchase a replacement bottle, it will almost assuredly have different fittings than what your boat is equipped with, which will require you to spend time at store to purchase the necessary equipment to convert your boat to use the new fittings, and then to spend the time to modify everything once you get back to the boat. It seems as though every other country uses a different gas fitting standard, which is a little maddening.
I do like alcohol, which can be purchased in nearly any grocery store on the planet, but if the electrical capacity is there, electric stoves solve all those problems.
Hi Gents
As always a very interesting clip. I fitted a “fail safe “ gas instillation that could almost avoid any gas leaks . My gas bottles were secured on stern rail and entered the boat via a stainless bulkhead fitting. This in turn was piped to and explosion proof d
Solenoid valve normally closed. Even if the gas bottle was left open the instrument tubing was I believe a secure option. To open the valve there was a light in the range hood that had to be switched on in order to energise the valve allowing gas to flow to the cooker. On completion of the cooking I would switch off the light automatically closing the solenoid valve and burning any gas in the line.
The surveyor commended the system and having a gas detector just below the stove meant that should I dumb out for some reason and have a leak I would have an audio alarm.
The “cleaver “ anuscrats would not accept my system and insisted on a mediocre solenoid fitted to the gas bottle in an exposed position requiring instillation by a certified gas fitter, who by the way said my system was better than the Aussie standards .
Needless to say the Anuscrats did not win the day but Dick B I concur with your views. I am in the process of ramping up my electrical storage to 1200 ah and increased my solar charging to 750 watts. My induction cooktop is being marinised with an air fryers oven.
These power hungry appliances will be fed by ( thanks for the heads up Mr B) 2 Victron 2400watt inverters. If Victron is good enough for a Kraken it’s god enough fo Mon Reve.
Stuff the gas and go electric.
As a byline a friends boat had the stern blown off the boat due to a gas leak. Luckily they were at the cinema when the bomb blew. Fortunately it was late and no one was injured
As always thank you so much for such diverse and interesting comments
We had a boat burn to the waterline..
Gas!
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Hi, I’m considering retrofitting an integral on engine generator (basically a large case alternator with a few more degrees to its name) and ditching the generator that has been nothing but trouble.
Obviously a 48v system feeding a 24v house bank via dc to dc charging.
Large inverter already installed and the on to induction with a new gn-espace.
Bar the expensive battery system I believe that induction is the only way forward on a modern vessel. With solar, wind and hydro generation I should be spot on for the rest of time.
What’s your thoughts on the integral system as opposed to a stand alone generator.
On the cooking point, have you considered getting a solar cooker for cooking in hot countries? It would only work when the sun was shining but would save power or gas. Would still need a main cooker for other times.
Guys, I totally agree about using electric versus propane for cooking on a boat. I plan on retrofitting a old boat with induction and was intrigued by what was shown. Is there a brand stove that you prefer to use?
I built my own induction range .
Hi Dick, thank you for sharing my question. I did forget to mention that my example related to an incident in 2004. I do agree that since then there has been an exceptional increase in technology which enables better use of other power sources to cook with. A close friend has just ordered a crack and 50 so I am looking forward to checking out what is now on offer to cook with. Keep up the good info videos on a fantastic yacht and love the ocean podcast. Cheers Tony. Newcastle Australia.
Thanks Tony for your great question and feedback :) We also hope your friend cooks you a great meal onboard, we are very impressed with the GN Espace Ocean Chef 3. The podcast will return as soon as the two Dicks are back in the studio. Thanks